Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[MartinGG99]

So the "falcon wagon" was always there, just sitting empty at the time?

It would appear so.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I also forgot to do my vote -_-

[MartinGG99]

jumped the shark

What does this saying mean anyways?

I think I've heard it before but I never really knew what it meant since it sounds really silly.

[Michelle]

Btw, has anyone done cat analyses yet? I'll start there and/or iso him myself.

Honestly I don't think its worth reading into it for me

because if it is a big mafia team then there could be good arguments for both trying to push and trying to protect cat as being scum

and I think the nuances of that could be confused for the wrong alignment especially in such a big game where even I wouldn't be surprised if at least one town had some bad interaction

at the very least I hope to find something independently scummy and not just "Oh they had X interaction with person with Y flip, therefore they must be evil/scum/mafia!"

Well, falcon fits the mold for both.

I still think it's worth looking into. Yes we could be wrong and hit townies, but we run that risk regardless of our strategy.


Fwiw, in Shadow Corridors, we did desperately try to protect JackofHearts from going down, with no success. But you are right. Despite my late vote for the counterwagon (NIK), I was never really sussed for it. I had a good reason to vote NIK, but I had no defense for Jack aside from "he's just town guys, don't bake him".

@Jackofhearts2005 do you know what I'm thinking reading this?

[tutuu]

jumped the shark

What does this saying mean anyways?

I think I've heard it before but I never really knew what it meant since it sounds really silly.

it was some old TV show that had jumping the shark as its peak episode and was downhill after that

[Michelle]

And Marmot, without quoting your question above, with my spoiler I was just adding to my Iso some posts from the part of the thread I read today.
I want an answer from Syn and I turned my attention to to Kyle

[Michelle]

Kyle who's wagon vanished btw if I saw well in the
VC

Spoiler: show

Who should get what's coming?
Poll runs till Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
0
No votes
Voters: None
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
4%
Voters: Made
Dyslexicon
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No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
3
13%
Voters: tutuu, Marmot, MartinGG99
Hyena
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No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
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No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
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No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
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No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
1
4%
Voters: tedxtr
MacDougall
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No votes
Voters: None
Made
2
9%
Voters: Syn, Justplayingitcool
Marmot
1
4%
Voters: Timsup2nothin
MartinGG99
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No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
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No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
4%
Voters: 112
nutella
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No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
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No votes
Voters: None
Syn
1
4%
Voters: Sloonei
Thunal33
0
No votes
Voters: None
Timsup2nothin
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No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
TurnipHead
1
4%
Voters: nutella
tutuu
5
22%
Voters: Michelle, Long Con, MacDougall, Master Radishes, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
No vote
2
9%
Voters: Alison, Hyena
No elimination
1
4%
Voters: Jackofhearts2005
Subterranean Homesick Alien (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
4
17%
Voters: cat, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis
Total votes: 23

[MartinGG99]

I still think it's worth looking into. Yes we could be wrong and hit townies, but we run that risk regardless of our strategy.

Hmmm I should've considered that

good point

[tedxtr]

@tedxtr no one has yet engaged you on the Alison-Long Con thing.

I agree that it seems to go against her win condition to reveal who she has made a deal with.

Are you voting me because you think I'm scum, or because you think something is fishy with the Gambit Demon?

i've made a recent post on you, can you take a look at that and then provide an explanation?

The cat meta question to Mac?

yep

[MartinGG99]

I guess I treat it as I don't do post-flip association reads unless I have a warrant to do so

I don't wish to scum-read on association without independent evidence in the first place

[tedxtr]

it sucks to read into the mech things without being present itt for everything, i've missed a lot of stuff

sloonei is silenced and kyle claimed a role that needs to not post in order to do something later?

pretty interesting role claim, i've heard of some roles called "push-your-luck joats" and stuff like that, not sure if it's the same thing (and i am not being sarcastic lol)

[tutuu]

it sucks to read into the mech things without being present itt for everything, i've missed a lot of stuff

sloonei is silenced and kyle claimed a role that needs to not post in order to do something later?

pretty interesting role claim, i've heard of some roles called "push-your-luck joats" and stuff like that, not sure if it's the same thing (and i am not being sarcastic lol)

yes for kyle

we have no actual confirmation for sloonei, that's what he's representing

[tutuu]

im willing to give kyle one day, see what he says on day 3

if he continues to not speak i want him dead, his role could be dangerous and it could be scum, and cat's silencer role could work as a balance from a design pov (make a scum role that needs to be silent to do stuff, and also make townies silenced to balance it out)

[tedxtr]

we have no actual confirmation for sloonei, that's what he's representing

the mafia silencer died though, and i don't see any use for a town silencer.

how is he "representing" being silenced?

[tutuu]

we have no actual confirmation for sloonei, that's what he's representing

the mafia silencer died though, and i don't see any use for a town silencer.

how is he "representing" being silenced?

he has voted for syn and hasnt posted

[tutuu]

kyle also said that he can still vote

[tedxtr]

i don't know that much meta for kyle because then i could read into the claim, but gth post-restriction roles sound more likely for 3ps than town. as in, if you do x action, you unlock a badass action, you know. not really sure why it'd be a town role. but i guess he's gonna explain later.

the worst thing for us would be if he's some overpowered serial killer or some kp of some sort that's gonna kill a few people tonight. it'd make sense given not a lot of kills n1.

[tutuu]

lol i can think of a way to break the silence but its kinda gamey and i dont wanna do it

but technically if sloonei was online we could just write a silence morse code and have him constantly change his votes as a way to write encoded messages and communicate like this

not sure if its gamey maybe its not against the spirit of the game after all. just not worth the effort but its fun to consider

[112]

ONE death in a game this size?

I look forward to this game concluding some time in the summer of 2022.

This is not a town mindset

i'm scumreading dizzy but wat

[tedxtr]

can we do some stuff like "sloon, if you're silenced then vote ted" or anything of the sort? seems pretty against the spirit of the game

[tutuu]

i don't know that much meta for kyle because then i could read into the claim, but gth post-restriction roles sound more likely for 3ps than town. as in, if you do x action, you unlock a badass action, you know. not really sure why it'd be a town role. but i guess he's gonna explain later.

the worst thing for us would be if he's some overpowered serial killer or some kp of some sort that's gonna kill a few people tonight. it'd make sense given not a lot of kills n1.

now i want him dead again lol

yea im definitely afraid of his role and i gut scumread him so much before he claimed it too

[tutuu]

can we do some stuff like "sloon, if you're silenced then vote ted" or anything of the sort? seems pretty against the spirit of the game

mindmeld

[tedxtr]

but technically if sloonei was online we could just write a silence morse code and have him constantly change his votes as a way to write encoded messages and communicate like this

i think we've settled who's the nerd out of us two with our posts on the matter

[tutuu]

but technically if sloonei was online we could just write a silence morse code and have him constantly change his votes as a way to write encoded messages and communicate like this

i think we've settled who's the nerd out of us two with our posts on the matter

LOL

i like it when u call me a nerd

[tedxtr]

If mafia planned to kill Dya and silence Sloonei, then he is always villager here and our paranoia from today is hilarious.
That means Sloonei's reads should be on point.

the mafia silencer died d1

[tedxtr]

also tutuu, i wanted to reply to the single gang with an appropiate gif but i couldn't find a good one

but definitely in the single gang

[Michelle]

If mafia planned to kill Dya and silence Sloonei, then he is always villager here and our paranoia from today is hilarious.
That means Sloonei's reads should be on point.

the mafia silencer died d1

Never heard of backup?

[tedxtr]

If mafia planned to kill Dya and silence Sloonei, then he is always villager here and our paranoia from today is hilarious.
That means Sloonei's reads should be on point.

the mafia silencer died d1

Never heard of backup?

i guess you do have a point

[tedxtr]

lol, it actually makes sense, since 3p silencer is unlikely and there's no reason for a town silencer?

fine, sloonberg can be villa for a bit

[Syn]

Spoiler: show

cat being mafia silencer

Someone silencing sloonei who i think is town

Kyle saying he will be silenced so he can power up his role

This is too much townies getting silenced, i think Kyle is mafia

bad post

I... what? The marmot read has nothing to do with his accuracy? It's more like his dya interaction and cat vote are weird

Ted what is up with wilgy

Marmot's scumread on dyachei was convoluted and silly and it was towny, and both me and dyachei townread marmot off of that

It does sound to me like people are voting marmot due to dya and cats flips because he was pretty towny about the dya interaction at least i didnt look up the cat one

If u dont want to trust me at least factor in that dyachei, the recipient of the marmot interaction, townread marmot themself @Syn @MacDougall @Timsup2nothin (i forgot ehos voting rn)

bad post

I... what? The marmot read has nothing to do with his accuracy? It's more like his dya interaction and cat vote are weird

Ted what is up with wilgy

Marmot's scumread on dyachei was convoluted and silly and it was towny, and both me and dyachei townread marmot off of that

It does sound to me like people are voting marmot due to dya and cats flips because he was pretty towny about the dya interaction at least i didnt look up the cat one

If u dont want to trust me at least factor in that dyachei, the recipient of the marmot interaction, townread marmot themself @Syn @MacDougall @Timsup2nothin (i forgot ehos voting rn)

Ah that's fair

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

good post

i think it will be a waste of my time to further engage with mac, he is too tunneled and is making silly posts

it sucks that people are sheeping him so much

bad post

And Marmot, without quoting your question above, with my spoiler I was just adding to my Iso some posts from the part of the thread I read today.
I want an answer from Syn and I turned my attention to to Kyle

answer for what?

[Syn]

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

[Syn]

really didn't expect my throwaway "ur wolfin" post to tutuu would actually blossom into a mac case and tutuu just posting all the wrong things again and again

[tutuu]

look at this lol

[112]

why is tutuu a wagon? not reading back

[MartinGG99]

Cat will be the day 1 chop. Sorry about your vanity cases. Make comfort with this fact people.

I'm gonna hard push Falcon to make sure we don't have a runaway under your overpowering will.

Deux

The progressions. Like lines in the sand ever so unparalleled. Always destined to cross paths and to arrive at their final destinations. Written in the stars like death.

[giant case of quotes on Cat after his minutes earlier paragraph on Cat being scum]

[unrelated quotes snipped from quote]

I don't really know. TBH, I don't really care at this point.


I am town, and breadcrumbed info about my rolecard. Take it for what it's worth

[VOTE: VOTE CAT] aubergine


Guess how long it took me to go thru the ISO?

It took them 19 hours to look into or vote cat despite not only responding to a post mentioning cat is scum, but also being present at the time Mac puts out the case when falcon says he has no idea?

[For context, when he was saying "I don't know", he was seemingly being sarcastic towards Tim and for some reason wanted other players to motivate him to do ISO's...]

like wth you don't do this as any alignment IMO

and why did the cat vote requisite needing to go through the ISO

[tutuu]

imagine being town and being part of this disaster

[Syn]

imagine being town and being part of this disaster

it's good for you to have an imagination to replace the truth of reality

[MartinGG99]

why is tutuu a wagon? not reading back

because association reads and not anything concrete as far as I can tell

(they're bad for reasons I've said like 20-30 minutes earlier)

[tutuu]

why is tutuu a wagon? not reading back

mac's doesnt like that im not stroking his ego like everyone else

michelle has no reason to vote me (literally she has not given one other than gut)

nanook and radish are not reading the game in detail and are sheeping mac

long con voted me as a joke i would hope

syn produced ... the thing that he just produced

[Long Con]

I looked up the Fonz jumping the shark (on Happy Days) to find a good gif... this one is all I could find. Then I was like "where's the shark??" Then I actually watched the video of it... my imagination about it was much cooler than whatever that was. It's more like he was jumping in the vicinity of a shark maybe. I expected an attempt by the shark to at least grab him.

@tedxtr I don't really know what you're asking me, and I don't really remember my exact mindset at the time of asking Joseph about the cat meta, because he declined to discuss it.

[Long Con]

why is tutuu a wagon? not reading back

mac's doesnt like that im not stroking his ego like everyone else

michelle has no reason to vote me (literally she has not given one other than gut)

nanook and radish are not reading the game in detail and are sheeping mac

long con voted me as a joke i would hope

syn produced ... the thing that he just produced

More like OMGUS.

[tutuu]

sloonei just changed his vote to martin, not sure if relevant but i wanted it noted itt

[tutuu]

why is tutuu a wagon? not reading back

mac's doesnt like that im not stroking his ego like everyone else

michelle has no reason to vote me (literally she has not given one other than gut)

nanook and radish are not reading the game in detail and are sheeping mac

long con voted me as a joke i would hope

syn produced ... the thing that he just produced

More like OMGUS.

do you actually think im scum? is that your reasoning? you think im scum because i think you're scum?

[Long Con]

Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.

[MartinGG99]

sloonei just changed his vote to martin, not sure if relevant but i wanted it noted itt

say wat

[TonyStarkPrime]

imagine being town and being part of this disaster

it's good for you to have an imagination to replace the truth of reality

this does not mean what you think it means

[Syn]

Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.

caught and panicking

she's already breadcrumbing the AtE

wait until the crescendo

[TonyStarkPrime]

chop high posters chop high posters

[tutuu]

Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.

didnt u say that in bread mafia and then got yeeted?

[Long Con]

why is tutuu a wagon? not reading back

mac's doesnt like that im not stroking his ego like everyone else

michelle has no reason to vote me (literally she has not given one other than gut)

nanook and radish are not reading the game in detail and are sheeping mac

long con voted me as a joke i would hope

syn produced ... the thing that he just produced

More like OMGUS.

do you actually think im scum? is that your reasoning? you think im scum because i think you're scum?

You might be. I'm allowed to vote with my emotions, and I'm hurt to still be so red.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.

you and me are more used to it than others