Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Urist]

this game is actually unplayable oh my god

[Urist]

Why would I check Alison?

chances are very very very high that that's literally the only use for your ability at this point.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Hmm that's kind of fair.

Though I just thought that saving my second use for later game would be better, since Alison is always an enemy of mine no matter the result.

Like for the other factions it's better for me to use it on her

[TonyStarkPrime]

don't you have three

[Urist]

Hmm that's kind of fair.

Though I just thought that saving my second use for later game would be better, since Alison is always an enemy of mine no matter the result.

Like for the other factions it's better for me to use it on her

if alison is the slaver then she isn't your enemy

[MartinGG99]

Though I just thought that saving my second use for later game would be better, since Alison is always an enemy of mine no matter the result.

How's that so?

Slaver isn't the enemy of NCR I believe.

[Urist]

@DaughterOfOmega i'm not going to spell out your role for you but if you could spend the next 48h re-reading your role and thinking about its potential applications that would be great thanks.

[MartinGG99]

Also fwiw Alison as New Reno or lying slaver doesn't really bother me. She's not my enemy in both worlds and I trust that she genuinely found me as town yesterday.

Regardless, I don't really care to vote her.

[Alison]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

Will be back tomorrow, I've just had a terrible game (postgame argument blew up) and am probably going to sleep soon.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did I miss something and doom claim cop

[DaughterOfOmega]

I thought slaver had to die for town to win

nvm then

can check ali tomorrow

[Dom]

I kinda regret this

Why, did you rand scum?

I prefer scum homie

20 caps to anyone who tells me about 1 thing that happened during day 1 or 0, even without any context

The person that got eliminated soft defended me by voting Tony who was voting me.

Someone told me that ChopChop is kinda new to the game, but I gotta say, his jargon is on point.

Who told you that?
This game seems to be their only game here.
So who told you that?

Honestly like normally I'm not the kind of person to demand townreads or all that but I think that this is pretty pure serious towny tsp tone. I dunno if we've played in any games together where you would have seen that but I think a tone argument is questionable. You had an early SR on me for being jumpy and light, trying to imitate my normal style as I do when I'm a wolf. I don't think that corresponds to reality.

My meta is this that obviously paints me in a positive light posts are never good.

Nanook stop randing mafia

do u have any thoughts on dom

Im probs one of the few ppl in this game with meta on Dom so its important to note my opinion.

I dunno.

This post weirded me out. Off the top of my head, the following players have played a LOT with me. Some for literally over a decade:
-Long Con
-Space Daisy
-Epignosis
-TSP
-Jack
-Marmot
-Sloonei
-Kyle

And I've def played with NANOOK before.
I don't know why Mac would make this post, but it's just not really accurate.

i think that urist is scum

Why, and which team?

see the below posts:

still think rej is the better execute.
it's possible he is the enclave doctor after all

here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

ngl i'm slowly buying into the theory that chopchop and spacedaisy are both wolves

none of his reads or his takes today feel authentic or soulful or like theyre coming from the thought process of someone who is carefully evaluating the game. his push on alison that he shortly dropped after is weird. his belief that chopchop/space are both scum that he then immediately dropped in favor of defending chop is weird. his reasoning for wanting to chop rej over chopchop is weird. his energy today compared to d2 is dramatically different, and not in a way that i particularly like. he feels somewhat deflated and like he doesn't know where to take his solving or how to position himself in the thread

he would probably be on whatever team chopchop is on, since he's been soft defending him for a while now

why are you hardtunneling me

You're being dramatic there

I tend to agree that this feels dramatic and borderline c/c

Every decision you make in a mafia game is to increase the probability of achieving your win condition. You save scum teammates because they can help you reach parity, or they have useful abilities, or they have good thread control/presence, or some combination of the three. ChopChop will never help a mafia team reach parity because he will never survive to the point where parity is being counted. We know that if he's scum he doesn't have exciting abilities. And he is so widely distrusted that he has no thread influence.

Therefore you hard bus.

I don't know Alison well. This reads not great. I'm gona be honest here: I barely know my win condition in this game and barely know what faction I'm on. I am just generalizing blue folks as good and red folks as bad. But bad guys? Their faction is already consolidated. They know each other and know who they need to kill.

Sloonei and Epignosis are just bullies imo

Epignosis feels out of place here. Mac either isn't paying attention or is just skating by hoping no one notices.

Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

This is Sloonei's worst post.

[VOTE: rej] aubergine Sorry about your luck dude!

This is LC's worst post.

Dom don't worry the odds of someone claiming mafia / failing to claim town today are increasingly low

huh

[TonyStarkPrime]

Did I miss something and doom claim cop

a scan of her iso suggested she was the "New Reno or not" cop

[Urist]

Did I miss something and doom claim cop

she can check whether people are new reno.
would have been great if rej had claimed when she did so that her role could actually be useful and confirm him
alas people would rather just die and lose

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think instead of posting, for three hours today we should all just take a second to read through the setup, figure out our win conditions, figure out our powers, and then come back.

[Jackofhearts2005]

i am still catching up. only 12 pages to go.

if you people make me read dozens of pages after that i will kill you irl

Down with ketchup

[Dom]

oh no my catchup post

[Jackofhearts2005]

I tried to warn you.

[MartinGG99]

Is that what ketchup refers to?

A catchup?

.....did it take me too long to figure that out?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah. That’s the joke.

[Dom]

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

[Dom]

I hate y'all calling omega doom bc i'm Dom and i am the original and sorry there can only be ONE

[Urist]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

[Gavial]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

Will be back tomorrow, I've just had a terrible game (postgame argument blew up) and am probably going to sleep soon.

So did you and Tony have some fun?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

[Urist]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

Are you claiming Westin?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Is it because she doesn’t know how her role works or what

[Dom]

ugh i hate claims i am not used to this as a thing. and i never will adapt lol

[Gavial]

Stop complaining, how do you think your Semi-Scum Counterpart died?

Did you just slip that you're Enclave and shot Esooa for questioning people too hard?

No?
I am BOS and I was clearly saying “complain” not “questioning”

Just saying that you and Esooa are mean gals that play very similar. As such I feel like if Esooa died due to something resolving around Playstyle I feel like the same could potentially happen towards you.

[Long Con]

Sounds juicy enough. [VOTE: DOOM] aubergine

It's ok to have a DOOM and a Dom.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

Are you claiming Westin?

I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin

[Gavial]

I thought slaver had to die for town to win

nvm then

can check ali tomorrow

Ok someone explain to me how this post ain’t a slip.

[Gavial]

Also Tony goes for Not voting me again!
He voted No Vote and claims he’s tunnelling me.
Lol.

[Dom]

I thought slaver had to die for town to win

nvm then

can check ali tomorrow

Ok someone explain to me how this post ain’t a slip.

why

[Jackofhearts2005]

[Gavial]

I’ll give them about couple hours and then they’ll panic and vote me again.

[Alison]

Stop complaining, how do you think your Semi-Scum Counterpart died?

Did you just slip that you're Enclave and shot Esooa for questioning people too hard?

No?
I am BOS and I was clearly saying “complain” not “questioning”

Just saying that you and Esooa are mean gals that play very similar. As such I feel like if Esooa died due to something resolving around Playstyle I feel like the same could potentially happen towards you.

Esooa was consensus townread.

What makes you think she died because of her playstyle? You think the mafia got annoyed with her constant complaints and shot her?

[Alison]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

If this is a CC I'll sheep it

[Alison]

[VOTE: DOOM] aubergine

[Urist]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

Are you claiming Westin?

I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin

you couldn't have claimed this yesterday eh

[Gavial]

I thought slaver had to die for town to win

nvm then

can check ali tomorrow

Ok someone explain to me how this post ain’t a slip.

why

If they were legit, why would they think all town had the exact same win con?
Seems to me like it’s scum not paying attention to the alignments.

[Dom]

too many details :O i am confused

[Jackofhearts2005]

Stop complaining, how do you think your Semi-Scum Counterpart died?

Did you just slip that you're Enclave and shot Esooa for questioning people too hard?

No?
I am BOS and I was clearly saying “complain” not “questioning”

Just saying that you and Esooa are mean gals that play very similar. As such I feel like if Esooa died due to something resolving around Playstyle I feel like the same could potentially happen towards you.

Esooa was consensus townread.

What makes you think she died because of her playstyle? You think the mafia got annoyed with her constant complaints and shot her?

I mean, that’s how I pick wolf kill targets. Death to complainers.

[Gavial]

Stop complaining, how do you think your Semi-Scum Counterpart died?

Did you just slip that you're Enclave and shot Esooa for questioning people too hard?

No?
I am BOS and I was clearly saying “complain” not “questioning”

Just saying that you and Esooa are mean gals that play very similar. As such I feel like if Esooa died due to something resolving around Playstyle I feel like the same could potentially happen towards you.

Esooa was consensus townread.

What makes you think she died because of her playstyle? You think the mafia got annoyed with her constant complaints and shot her?

I’m just saying that because of how similar the two of you are.
If town goes for 1 due to Playstyle they will go for the other.
I don’t know why she died but I don’t think it’s mechanical reasons meaning it’s possible you could repeat the same as her.

[Dom]

@Long Con
You've been ardent in your defense of me.
Why such enthusiasm when you haven't really shown much enthusiasm for the game writ large.

[Gavial]

Stop complaining, how do you think your Semi-Scum Counterpart died?

Did you just slip that you're Enclave and shot Esooa for questioning people too hard?

No?
I am BOS and I was clearly saying “complain” not “questioning”

Just saying that you and Esooa are mean gals that play very similar. As such I feel like if Esooa died due to something resolving around Playstyle I feel like the same could potentially happen towards you.

Esooa was consensus townread.

What makes you think she died because of her playstyle? You think the mafia got annoyed with her constant complaints and shot her?

I mean, that’s how I pick wolf kill targets. Death to complainers.

Ah so you confess to the kill.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ncr Westin

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

Are you claiming Westin?

I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin

you couldn't have claimed this yesterday eh

Well I didn’t know she was claiming Westin yesterday

[Dom]

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

Are you claiming Westin?

I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin

you couldn't have claimed this yesterday eh

Well I didn’t know she was claiming Westin yesterday

why