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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
if the two people who are playing the catching up game are on the same team than the third member of that team cannot be dom and THATS and obfuscative TSP read to end the thread on GOOD NIGHT
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I really don’t know what you are on about here. People need to work, sleep, do other things. How else are they supposed to know what’s going on without catching up?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:37 am if the two people who are playing the catching up game are on the same team than the third member of that team cannot be dom and THATS and obfuscative TSP read to end the thread on GOOD NIGHT
You say you aren’t trying to derail the thread and want to be asked questions instead of people just saying you are “lock mafia.” But I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment to either. You have been asked loads of questions, and I don’t see how your actions aren’t derailing.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
was the thread derailed when i voted for marmot arbitrarily
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
the catching up game is something else catching up is important people should read the thread
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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 1]
Possible TMI if it isn't terminology used by Nova a lot in games.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
it's just too funny to not be something right
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
are they from the same place? I don't really know about either of their mafia histories
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Ok what is the “catching up game”TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:46 am the catching up game is something else catching up is important people should read the thread
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
you have 400 posts. I don't really have the time or energy to start a conversation about every random read you throw outTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:36 am finally, like ok I don't want to fake indignance because I do recognize I'm being a bit of a git here but like I really don't think I've tried to derail the thread and I don't even think I've been all that confusing and ok if people believe that to be true that's fine but I'd like for someone to ask me about something if it doesn't make sense instead of being like "see look tsp is lock mafia" every time I post.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:37 pmI would LOVE to hear more! How do you think ted is playing? What's got you suspicious?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:37 pm I'm wondering if catching up with/without live tweeting it is ever a town / scum tell
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:39 pm 1) Do we believe that AL_sama is indeed caught up?
2) Do we believe that AL_sama has been catching up?
3) Do we believe that tedxtr is a believable vote?
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:41 pmFlashbacks to Finale HallyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:39 pm 1) Do we believe that AL_sama is indeed caught up?
2) Do we believe that AL_sama has been catching up?
3) Do we believe that tedxtr is a believable vote?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I’m not subtweeting youEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:03 amyou have 400 posts. I don't really have the time or energy to start a conversation about every random read you throw outTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:36 am finally, like ok I don't want to fake indignance because I do recognize I'm being a bit of a git here but like I really don't think I've tried to derail the thread and I don't even think I've been all that confusing and ok if people believe that to be true that's fine but I'd like for someone to ask me about something if it doesn't make sense instead of being like "see look tsp is lock mafia" every time I post.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
The game is sorta the question of whether or not y know what this terminology is bad I should make a new terminology
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
But yes, the initial post refers to you and Al Sama
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
@Long Con Im serious about the second town core thing; hit me up if you’re interested
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I will answer, Al has experience with nova's games and super kills are common place. They are kills that bypass protections

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I apologise if this has already been addressed and I missed it or forgot, but do you have a lot of experience with Al from games on other sites?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I just remembered some things I wanted to comment on.
As far as being careful and polite, I was very aware that when I returned to mafia at this time that I was doing so at a time when my moods are quite explosive, and I am determined not to bring any hormonal outrage into any thread I am in. I don’t want to make any game not fun, so there have been multiple times in each game I’ve played where I’ve stepped away for something stupid annoying me. You can confirm with keys post game if you’d like that the littlest things set me off
This reads like you are trying to talk yourself into this suspicion because you think it looks good for you. Later you call it “less tailgatey” (or some term similar) but plenty of people have already mentioned me, so it’s hardly an original suspicion.
So you think my questions are genuine but suspicious? That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:15 pm I want to answer GTH fingersplints scum. She has been just a little too questiony and a little too careful. Or too polite. Something set me off about her posts more than once, even though I know that each term she asked about was something she genuinely didn't know.
As far as being careful and polite, I was very aware that when I returned to mafia at this time that I was doing so at a time when my moods are quite explosive, and I am determined not to bring any hormonal outrage into any thread I am in. I don’t want to make any game not fun, so there have been multiple times in each game I’ve played where I’ve stepped away for something stupid annoying me. You can confirm with keys post game if you’d like that the littlest things set me off

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
so no town kp last night by the way
I find that odd in a game this large
especially with accelerated scum kp
realistically not having a vigi in town is just kinda unbalanced
I think this points to smaller mafia teams
I find that odd in a game this large
especially with accelerated scum kp
realistically not having a vigi in town is just kinda unbalanced
I think this points to smaller mafia teams
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
the alternative is that town is inherently disadvantaged
this is also very possible cause we're in a fucking multiball game
ugh I don't mean to be rude to the host but I just have a personal vendetta against this shit
this is also very possible cause we're in a fucking multiball game
ugh I don't mean to be rude to the host but I just have a personal vendetta against this shit
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
@Alison are all your abilities day actions? If so I can doctor you tonight
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I personally think it’s too early to say if the game is unbalanced or to say the town is inherently disadvantaged. I think we are in a good position right now. Yes, we lost Jay and Mac, but we also lynched a wolf day 1 and I think are in good position to lynch another. Maybe I’m just being optimistic, but I believe some of the abilities will balance it out.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I have enough experiencefingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:10 amI apologise if this has already been addressed and I missed it or forgot, but do you have a lot of experience with Al from games on other sites?

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
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Voters: Oddmerta, Alison, Esooa, fingersplints, KZA, tedxtr

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Voters: Oddmerta, Alison, Esooa, fingersplints, KZA, tedxtr

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I can confirmOddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:02 amI have enough experiencefingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:10 amI apologise if this has already been addressed and I missed it or forgot, but do you have a lot of experience with Al from games on other sites?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Fos at fingersplints for speculating game balance.
Why is this your concern?
Why is this your concern?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Why? Do you think is AI indicative?Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:27 amHey Michelle, care to read my conversation with Ted over the last couple pages?Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:59 am Morning, RIP Jay
I read Ted's Iso, and looking at the confidence he told me he deserves a town read I think he is town, except I am wrong but I don't want to tinfoil.
So i gave
VVV
Ted
V
Sloonei
Al
Bo
Probably wolfing TSP
These reads are related to the parts of the game i read, so don't expect me to have perfect reads.
Work time screwed me so cya after
I will catch up, if I will, at my own pace and reading what I feel I need, I don't accept tasks, but in a way I appreciate the fact you let me read instead imposing your opinion, this makes me strenghten my TR for you and put you at VV
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
So finger goes at mafia lean
Nanook ignored me so it's a good vote
TSP received after my vote other 3 votes pretty fast, and looking at the lack of a counter wagon I feel less confident about the read.
Nanook ignored me so it's a good vote
TSP received after my vote other 3 votes pretty fast, and looking at the lack of a counter wagon I feel less confident about the read.
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I didn't notice we have 2 flips
@Alison how did you know they are villagers?
@Alison how did you know they are villagers?
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
My game balance speculation was posted directly after Esooa’s game balance speculation post.
My concern about it was that Esooa, who have been reading as town thus far, sounded a bit annoyed/defeated by the balance with the “ugh I don’t mean to be rude to the host” and the like, and I just don’t think we are there yet. As I said, I think we are in a good position still. I’d rather the town keep positive
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Nova is an experienced host, discussions about balance should not exist except someone has TMI about balance and the ones complaining cannot be townies imo.fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:59 amMy game balance speculation was posted directly after Esooa’s game balance speculation post.
My concern about it was that Esooa, who have been reading as town thus far, sounded a bit annoyed/defeated by the balance with the “ugh I don’t mean to be rude to the host” and the like, and I just don’t think we are there yet. As I said, I think we are in a good position still. I’d rather the town keep positive
Esooa drops on scum leans as well, near you

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Hey man nice hedgesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
What does VVV and V mean?Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:59 am Morning, RIP Jay
I read Ted's Iso, and looking at the confidence he told me he deserves a town read I think he is town, except I am wrong but I don't want to tinfoil.
So i gave
VVV
Ted
V
Sloonei
Al
Bo
Probably wolfing TSP
These reads are related to the parts of the game i read, so don't expect me to have perfect reads.
Work time screwed me so cya after
fwiw TSP also said wolfy pie charts -> probably town for them. The progression on his reads are making zero sense for me and I feel like he's a scum who's currently spiralling right now.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:15 am How in the ever loving fuck did you go from "I don't believe Alison's bullshit claim for a second" to "Alison is in tier 1, the mech confirms"
How the ever loving fuck did you arrive at "Sloonei is the only consensus town"
How the ever loving fuck did you arrive at "only Sloonei and TSP are interested in solving"

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
KZA claimed one of the trooper slots.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:43 amin order:Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:40 amWhich players do you think we have the best reasons to regard as town?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:39 am The town core is the people who I think are going to work to solve the game and right now it's you and me.
tier 1: the mech
hally
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odd
alison
tier 2: good vibes??
sloonei
straw
falcon
esooa
tier 3: ehhhh
spf
jpic
nanook
bk
lc
Michelle
tier 4:
finger
kza
al
ted
unr: dom (but I think more likely wolf for reasons)

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Yes I know
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I can say you’re not town if it makes you feel betterBoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 amHey man nice hedgesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Yes it does
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Well, I'd prefer if you just said what's on your mind and gave us your thoughts straight.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 amI can say you’re not town if it makes you feel betterBoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 amHey man nice hedgesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I wouldn't say it holds as much weight as Odd's, but it took him out of my PoE.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I did but you didn’t like thatBoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 amWell, I'd prefer if you just said what's on your mind and gave us your thoughts straight.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 amI can say you’re not town if it makes you feel betterBoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 amHey man nice hedgesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Yeah, this is reasonable. I don’t think KZA is a good chop for today at least. I’ll have to review his interactions with Marmot, I skipped over him earlier.BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:55 amI wouldn't say it holds as much weight as Odd's, but it took him out of my PoE.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I think he's town, but he's high on the PoE list is contradicting.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:57 amI did but you didn’t like thatBoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 amWell, I'd prefer if you just said what's on your mind and gave us your thoughts straight.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 amI can say you’re not town if it makes you feel betterBoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 amHey man nice hedgesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am I think Bo is probably town for making graphs if we can get back to that conversation. He's pretty high on the list

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
I think consensus is that they're most likely not teammates, it's always good to have another set of eyes look over it though.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:58 amYeah, this is reasonable. I don’t think KZA is a good chop for today at least. I’ll have to review his interactions with Marmot, I skipped over him earlier.BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:55 amI wouldn't say it holds as much weight as Odd's, but it took him out of my PoE.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:54 am Reasonably you might think that it should bump him to the same ranking as Odd but like ~~

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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 2]
Villa tiers may be considered:
VVV top town, over 95%, rescinding probably in lylo or at an obvious slip
VV town, around 75% reevaluating but confident enough to consider them green
V townish, between 55-75% confidence, in constant check and reevaluation
VVV top town, over 95%, rescinding probably in lylo or at an obvious slip
VV town, around 75% reevaluating but confident enough to consider them green
V townish, between 55-75% confidence, in constant check and reevaluation