Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I think toopy & binoo are always a different alignment to T&T. I agree with my partners read in regards to the Tim impersonation, it seemed way too on point to have faked. Using a medium ability on Tim/HK is pretty villagery thing to do when they've just been janitored and trying to get some spew. I'm trying to think of a reason why mafia would ever use that ability on town/mafia that they've just janitored and I'm drawing a blank - unless they just wanted to get some cred, but the impersonation does work in their favour. It's possible it's W/W but I think you have to jump through a lot of hoops to get there, and I don't really see it tbh. In sort, I think T&B are a villager and T&T was a wolf.

I think the conclusion is correct but if Toopy is a wolf then Tim must be a wolf sí the first line is wrong -tsp

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Either way, i just don’t see a world where T&T was a villager

[Julinook]

I'd rather not claim, TSP left specific instructions in not claiming yesterday and I want to respect that because I wanted to claim yesterday for reasons which would eventually become obvious. My target for this phase is all you get atm

"I targeted the NK and im not gonna tell you with what" is

Not reassuring

[Julinook]

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

you get feedback if it fails, so ur prob good.

Depends on the action I think

BT didn't get feedback their action failed n1

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

yeah but it's pretty funny tho

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Julinook and TPIC are my "if they're scum they earned the win tbh" reads atm

can you elaborate on the tspic read briefly?

their read of the game has been consistently closest to mine all game. I don't see a baddie angle for their actions, and they seem removed from a lot of the easy pushes of the game

i dont even think this is true though because they pushed the walrus and falconknows, who were both easy pushes and were both village.

i dunno about my other half but I said that falcon was town

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

That is

Not an ideal n1

But a pretty impressive one nonetheless ngl

in a hypothetical world where you dont exist

alison tracks mana visiting themselves
mana watches themselves be visited by themselves, myself, and alison

smh

I cannot forgive myself for preventing this from happening


Assuming both claims are real but

Mana's probably is at least

noting the existence of this post

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

and just ignoring all the stuff that makes us spewed V.

hmmyes in a game that might potentially have zero dead wolves you are spewed V

im not even concerned that you're still alive because the NKs have made sense but

lol, guess im a wolf for being a little fish trying to point out that there's a big fucking shark in the pond

nutella is a flaming obvious outed wolf D1 when she rands mafia and she clearly wasn't this game.

Mac has testified that nutella would not kill Roxy N1, and I have gone on record as saying that vigilante is an anti-town role in the hands of a player who doesn't know what's going on so it's not like I would be peer pressuring her into making a kill she hated.

TR has argued that I would likely have carried the kill if I was mafia.

Any wolf TAT worlds spews us clear, and the way he handled the medium interaction strongly suggests that he was in fact a wolf.

How has none of these points affected your read on us at all?

don't care

don't care

bad point, also don't care

im aware

wow flaming hot garbage

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

i'm entirely willing to stop pushing bt if it gets esooa to actually play the game

~mawile

honestly what will get me to play the game is stopping the town of Salem level gameplay where people are going on and on about literally "there's not enough random town for these roles!!!" and doing nothing but random setup spec which is so fucking boring I can't even bother to read it and they actually start making their posts about solving

great post though so it balances out

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Julinook and TPIC are my "if they're scum they earned the win tbh" reads atm

can you elaborate on the tspic read briefly?

their read of the game has been consistently closest to mine all game. I don't see a baddie angle for their actions, and they seem removed from a lot of the easy pushes of the game

i dont even think this is true though because they pushed the walrus and falconknows, who were both easy pushes and were both village.

i dunno about my other half but I said that falcon was town

Here you turn up with the hydra dissonance again

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

now that the game is over I think our slot is basically cleared as town just off jpic's meta. see the previous few games for comparison.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

okay esooa is telling me she thinks nutella is a villager

i currently hate everything.

but i'm continuing this, because alison is provably bullshitting

i did NOT open this day trying to kill your slot. i opened this day and saw nutella posting egregiously bad posts.

absolutely terrible. up until this point i was laying out the cop claim thing just to gauge reactions, but the more i saw her post the more evident it became to me that she was going to be the likely end victim of that.

read nutellas opening posts. it's just shading poop for TERRIBLE reasons. absolutely BAFFLING. "why are the lovers dead if theres a BG" is a terrible push

lets expand it

lets say poop tries to save the lovers

this requires poop to townread H&V enough to go through with it, which is a stretch

this requires poop to correctly bodyguard the right one, which is 50/50 wifom

and this requires poop to not be blocked/disrupted, presumably by a wolf

like

hello?

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it is just Tony/Julinook/TR and Me, You, Poop and Akemi are just tossing bricks at each other screaming “THIS IS FUN!”

Like honestly, whoever is town please evaluate everything.
Then do it again.
Then scratch your nose and do it one more time.

-Toopy

such a good post I don't think it can come from gav

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

akemi - x1 tracker, tracked mana n1, no result
bottom text - x1 bus driver, redirected actions from akemi onto mana
julinooks - x? jailer, used their ability on akemi, causing akemi/mana's actions to fail
mana - x1 watcher, watched akemi n1, no result
poop explosions - x2 bg, holstered n1, protected akemi n2
tspic - unclaimed
toopy & binoo - x1 medium, used on two and through n1
trans rights - x1 commuter, holstered n1 and n2

these should be the claims, correct me if wrong

hm

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool fullclaim

I'm going to make dinner so I won't be around for a bit

which head are you

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool
Would you be willing to claim your role please!

I know from experience when playing with wolf!Tony he likes to not claim as wolf unless he’s forced to.

i mean it's different in games where I've been role copped

[trans rights]

I’m not 100% sure on Trans, they claim 1-Shot Commuter and well I don’t understand the purpose of this role for the setup. I mean I think mechanically wise this looks bad due to the fact I don’t see any outstanding role you would need to commute from. Like why Commute to a BG? Why Commute to a JK? Like I’m a Medium FFS, I only visit dead people.
I just don’t see the purpose in their role, if however they are indeed town. In that case really only you or Julinook can be scum due to balance purposes regarding the setup.

you commute the scum roles not the town ones

this seems fairly obvious

~mawile

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

and with open setup

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool fullclaim

I'm going to make dinner so I won't be around for a bit

We targeted H&V

other head that is not how a fullclaim works

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Okay so poop went from town reading T&T and BT (which is a huge yikes on it's own), to then voting T&T when it looked like they were doomed, then to switching to Mana when it looked like the Mana wagon could go over (which it would of till BT and TR switched to T&T). So basically if T&T is scum it's always Poop. It COULD be BT or TR if T&T scum, but it's less likely because the only reason to do this is knowing the D1 kill will be janitored and prefering the janitor flip over a naked scum flip which is possible. Of the two, BT is more likely because BT in a sense could be seen as voting to "save" so that vote was kinda forced, and for all we know janitor only worked on T&T and not BT.

Poop then preceeded to be perfectly wrong the next day in their reads. That's impressive, but not in light of them almost voting to save scum D1.

Poop is just scum y'all. you gotta vote'em guise, you just gottaaaaa

Direct quotes to relelvant post in the spoil

Spoiler: show

My intuition tells me TAT and BT are both town.

[VOTE: TwoandThrough] aubergine

Gadoosh!

I feel like the mafia is Mana + FK + one between H&V and Timsup2gettingserious. That's where I am at.

This is the part where everyone sheeps my reads

(sheeping image for reference of proper form)

@Mac does this change your "no reasoning" read on this slot

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Like Tony either claims simply as town or takes a hassle to convince him to claim as scum.
It’s his tell.

-Toopy

you have never played a game with me where I was town and I claimed

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

never in your life

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

You HAVE played a game with me where I was town and refused to claim and then got chopped

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

you get feedback if it fails, so ur prob good.

towny towny post

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

meh that's bad

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I am also extremely unsure why TSPIC would claim target and nothing else given that there is no soupkill (a bunch of people have claimed exact roles and not died) and everyone else in the game has claimed. It's the sort of temp claim you would make to pre-emptively ward off trackers/watchers seeing you visit the dead guy while hashing out a more believable fullclaim in scum chat.

tbh I also have no clue why he did it

[trans rights]

also vanity is not here rn so you get the annoying illiterate head

get excited

~mawile

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

tspic, have you used your action(s) this game? for what possible reason could you have to hide it? does your role conflict with anyone else’s?

our power and actions are spewed in the thread tbh

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

i think the towniest thing about the alinut slot is the way nutella referred to alison on day 1.

[Mana]

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

you get feedback if it fails, so ur prob good.

towny towny post

meh that's bad

is this hydra head disagreement or are you just toying with my emotions?

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

it's internal tsp disagreement

[trans rights]

tspic, have you used your action(s) this game? for what possible reason could you have to hide it? does your role conflict with anyone else’s?

For kicks

c'mon dude you literally didn't answer all of my questions, on top of the fact that the one question you did answer is a non-answer.

[trans rights]

tspic, have you used your action(s) this game? for what possible reason could you have to hide it? does your role conflict with anyone else’s?

our power and actions are spewed in the thread tbh

okay no need to be cryptic here. either claim or don't.

[trans rights]

ehhh tspic's posts are villagery today though, including how their read on two and through and toopy and binoo being different alignments. i don't know what to make of this.

also the fact that bottom text did not receive feedback on if their action was blocked is noted, but i don't really know how those types of mechanics work on the syndicate. in my experience, you're only know if you're blocked if you have an action that gives you feedback.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

tspic, have you used your action(s) this game? for what possible reason could you have to hide it? does your role conflict with anyone else’s?

For kicks

c'mon dude you literally didn't answer all of my questions, on top of the fact that the one question you did answer is a non-answer.

yes
unclear
possibly but I don't think it's worth discussing.

to the extent that it is:

we are an x-shot roleblocker and blocked H/V last night

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

including how their read on two and through and toopy and binoo being different alignments

I'm assuming the next two words are "is wrong"

[trans rights]

it really doesn't feel like we're being powerwolfed here. i'm pretty sure we're dealing with 2 wolves.

admittedly i can think of other worlds of 3 than the one i noted but they all revolve around poop explosions or julinook, and both of them are prob just v right?

i think i'm also left over with akemi/tspic/bottom text/mana in my poe, and akemi/mana is never w/w. i also think akemi probably isn't a wolf period

like if any of poop explosions/toopy & binoo/julinook is a wolf i can't see it at this point

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

can you explain like the nook spot

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

people having strong reads on nanook on day 3 is odd

[trans rights]

roleblocker
commuter
"deflector"
bodyguard
super jailkeeper

yeah virtually no shot all of these are village roles

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

well of course not if they're all village then we're all village and we would have already won

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

"not everyone is town" is not a thing that is dependent on the roles which are in the game

[trans rights]

can you explain like the nook spot

it's mostly his role interactions. his role accounts for why mana/akemi were blocked, and if they are a wolf i don't really think blocking akemi and preventing kp on her is pro-wolves. it only is if wolves expected akemi to be a hotspot for actions, which... meh. the role is definitely really strong so maybe this logic isn't great.

also i'm pretty sure his push on tim isn't w/w. iirc nanook isn't really a busser, and his push on two and through didn't read to me as a bus either

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

unless it's g-mans rent game in which case

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

didn't they block mana

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

hang on mana was an RT and targteted themself, right

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

tsp ahs not been keeping up with mech which is another sign that we're lock town

[trans rights]

theoretically there's a world where julinook/mana are w/w and julinook super jk'd mana instead of akemi. i think it would result in the same interaction.

[trans rights]

hang on mana was an RT and targteted themself, right

mana was an x1 watcher.

also i dont know what an "rt" is

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

did they target themself

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

reverse tracker, same thing