The Fall of Númenor - Game Over!

[Marmot]

Syn, I highly recommend you quit acting like this game is easy and done. It ain't. I am town, and even I'm annoyed at the amount of chilaxing that it feels like this thread is trending towards.

I'll at least do my part to make sure that Creature is yeeted before me in the event that Nanook is the cop, but I'm concerned that I'll go first, and the thread won't be ready to work to find the last wolf.

[Kami]

Are we gonna forget that syn soft claimed against esooa and then it went no where

[Creature]

Yawn. Just wished the game would progress.

[Syn]

Syn, I highly recommend you quit acting like this game is easy and done. It ain't. I am town, and even I'm annoyed at the amount of chilaxing that it feels like this thread is trending towards.

I'll at least do my part to make sure that Creature is yeeted before me in the event that Nanook is the cop, but I'm concerned that I'll go first, and the thread won't be ready to work to find the last wolf.

Not totally easy and done. We have to decide between Gavial and Kami for the third wolf.

[Marmot]

How funny would it be if Syn and Esooa were both wolves and CC'd each other for a role that didn't even exist.

[Gavial]

Also if I remember when someone mentioned about scum having a check I think Nanook was the first to mention they also have an option to gain knowledge of the unused role.

[Creature]

I'll at least do my part to make sure that Creature is yeeted before me

Of course you will.

[Gavial]

Pretty sure deli is just town

So do you think Nanook is the scum then?

[Marmot]

Also if I remember when someone mentioned about scum having a check I think Nanook was the first to mention they also have an option to gain knowledge of the unused role.

It's in the OP, I knew that was a mechanic in the game too.

[Marmot]

I'll at least do my part to make sure that Creature is yeeted before me in the event that Nanook is the cop

Of course you will.

Did you really snip the orange portion of the original post that is not a foregone conclusion as if it's a foregone conclusion?

[Gavial]

Fuck it! Ima do it!

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
@Esooa
@Kami
@Marmot
@Creature
@Deli
@MacDougall
@Wiml

Everyone go into my ISO and Look at my thoughts regarding Nanook.
Not gonna bother pinging Syn because Y’know.

[Syn]

Thank you for not spamming me with a useless ping

[Creature]

If Deli flips wolf today, and we flip town in tomorrow's yeet, there will be two nightkills tomorrow night, leaving 5 alive on Day 5 with two wolves left. One of them will be obvious, but that still puts us in a F3 situation.

If Deli doesn't flip wolf today, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Ok let’s not cross that bridge, what’s the plan when I flip town? Cause I’m pretty convinced we’re on the collision course for losing if we lunch me here

We lynch NANOOK and then probably MacDougall.

[Creature]

I'll at least do my part to make sure that Creature is yeeted before me in the event that Nanook is the cop

Of course you will.

Did you really snip the orange portion of the original post that is not a foregone conclusion as if it's a foregone conclusion?

Nah, I just don't feel like repeating "if NANOOK this" and "if NANOOK that".

[Syn]

but Creature, what if Nanook and Mac are hoodwinking all of us!!!

[Marmot]

I'll at least do my part to make sure that Creature is yeeted before me in the event that Nanook is the cop

Of course you will.

Did you really snip the orange portion of the original post that is not a foregone conclusion as if it's a foregone conclusion?

Nah, I just don't feel like repeating "if NANOOK this" and "if NANOOK that".

Technically you did more work, not less, but snipping more of the original post out.

[Gavial]

but Creature, what if Nanook and Mac are hoodwinking all of us!!!

You mean if the team I suggested you to be a part of us hoodwinking at us along with you hoodwinking at us as well?

[Marmot]

Using a precious post to point out that I meant "by snipping" not "butt snipping"

[Kami]

Pretty sure deli is just town

So do you think Nanook is the scum then?

Im not sure i dont really town read esooa either

[Marmot]

Fuck it! Ima do it!

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
@Esooa
@Kami
@Marmot
@Creature
@Deli
@MacDougall
@Wiml

Everyone go into my ISO and Look at my thoughts regarding Nanook.
Not gonna bother pinging Syn because Y’know.

I don't know what else you want me to do. I already read your points and responded with a counterargument. I'd be happy to engage further on the topic, but this continued monologue doesn't do much for me.

[Gavial]

Using a precious post to point out that I meant "by snipping" not "butt snipping"

That’s not precious.
You know what’s precious?
Voting Nanook!
If your is bud, Buss em!

Remember. I’m scary! Wolves should bow before me!

[Kami]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

[Gavial]

Pretty sure deli is just town

So do you think Nanook is the scum then?

Im not sure i dont really town read esooa either

But you were voting Nanook for most of this game WTH!

[Kami]

nanook/syn/mac maybe?

[Syn]

but Creature, what if Nanook and Mac are hoodwinking all of us!!!

You mean if the team I suggested you to be a part of us hoodwinking at us along with you hoodwinking at us as well?

Well, that can't be true. Deli's spent days informing everyone how terrible my play is. I can't be a wolf mastermind. It's unpossible.

[Gavial]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Good Boy!

[Syn]

nanook/syn/mac maybe?

where'd you get that one, seems original

[Marmot]

How funny would it be if Syn and Esooa were both wolves and CC'd each other for a role that didn't even exist.

Syn didn't have a snarky response to this one, so it's probably true.

[Creature]

but Creature, what if Nanook and Mac are hoodwinking all of us!!!

I think we find that out through Deli and we go from there.

[Syn]

How funny would it be if Syn and Esooa were both wolves and CC'd each other for a role that didn't even exist.

Syn didn't have a snarky response to this one, so it's probably true.

for sure, esooa and I decided early on to out ourselves once the real PRs are known and immediately set up a 2-wolf chain of chops

[Kami]

Syn kinda of has to be a wolf though right?

[Syn]

Syn kinda of has to be a wolf though right?

you could vote me and probably convince at least three other people to vote me too

[Gavial]

Syn kinda of has to be a wolf though right?

you could vote me and probably convince at least three other people to vote me too

Why because it’ll throw attention off of Nanook to you which your never getting yeeted today and it’ll just instantly make Deli the yeet.

[Esooa]

I mean they're an uncced jk claim its not great to kill them today lol

Unless you're gonna cc you should probably move

what if I were to tell you I don't believe the claim

I'd disagree with you until you provide a reason.

the reason is I think deli is lying

This isn't a guarantee, but HK gets really mad at people for lying about stuff as town. If he had mech info (I.E. would KNOW Deli is lying) I think he would say something different than "I think" Deli is lying

[Gavial]

I’m at the verge where I think Nanook and Syn are scum and their partner is Marmot or Mac.

Look Gavial, this theory isn't terrible. In fact, there's some validity to it. I just don't think it has as much strength as the world where Deli is the fakeclaims

I agree that it's an excellent claim from Nanook as wolf. In the world where Nanook is the wolf, presumably, his wolf team knew that there was no parity cop in the game Day 2, and with all of the other PRs having claimed or been killed at the start of Day 3, claiming parity between two non-PRs sets his team up for an easy win if Creature and I are both town.

But this makes a number of jumps in logic that point to Deli being the liar here.

1) Scum killed hollowkatt Night 2. With a JK and a Doctor claimed in thread, and assuming they didn't know who the tracker was, Nanook's team likely kills won of the protective roles, not the tracker. Which leads me to my next point.
2) Hollowkatt claimed that Deli was lying about his JK claim and target Night 1. It was not a CC, no. But hollowkatt was the tracker, and stating such a strong belief leaves an implication that he tracked Deli nowhere (I assume nowhere, but I suppose it's possible he was tracked to Wiml).
3) Nanook voted for me and called me out for a couple things on Day 2. Nanook did seem to want me yeeted, and said as much today, and I believe it's because he'd already had a peek on me as he's now claimed. What I'm saying is that there's evidence in the thread that Nanook was the parity cop already.


Yeah Nanook could be the liar here, I just think there's a lot more evidence on the contrary.

1)Not if Nanook and his buds were originally planning for Nanook to claim Cop. They simply take out the unclaimed PR through an NK and then try and get one of the other two PR’s ML’ed so they can take only 2 nights to NK all the PR instead of 3.

2)I don’t see this at all you’ll have to quote it because all I seen was they had a strong SR on Deli and pushed them hard but never actually CC’ed them and they clearly weren’t 100% on Deli or else they wouldn’t have changed their vote to Kami.

3)Yeah but he also sused creature as well I believe.
Putting 2 players you claimed to SR in your cop results ain’t hard to do.

I’ll let you decide but I strongly think it’s Nanook due to how this game state has been thus far and how Syn is reacted to stuff.

[Gavial]

I mean they're an uncced jk claim its not great to kill them today lol

Unless you're gonna cc you should probably move

what if I were to tell you I don't believe the claim

I'd disagree with you until you provide a reason.

the reason is I think deli is lying

This isn't a guarantee, but HK gets really mad at people for lying about stuff as town. If he had mech info (I.E. would KNOW Deli is lying) I think he would say something different than "I think" Deli is lying

Yeah! They also wouldn’t have switch voted to Kami!
I think Nanook seen this as an opportunity to take one for the mafia team and get rid of a PR via ML.

[Esooa]

Creature probably mafia for the post cap complaints tbh

Heh

So, scum are pretty fucked

I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature

HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli


Dab

Wish we could've gotten Marmot over yesterday lol

This doesn't make sense

1st quote--nanook thinks Creature is mafia
3rd quote--nanook thinks Marmot is mafia

So why check two people you think are mafia to eachother? That's not the point of the role rly at all

[Esooa]

honestly I have no problems with just killing Syn today for his terrible play this game cause I'm not sure on the rest

[Kami]

same

[Creature]

So why check two people you think are mafia to eachother? That's not the point of the role rly at all

I'd just use parity cop as if it was normal cop too. Those checks aren't really implausible.

honestly I have no problems with just killing Syn today for his terrible play this game cause I'm not sure on the rest

Yeah, but that probably won't solve anything, Deli/NANOOK thing will still be there.

[Gavial]

honestly I have no problems with just killing Syn today for his terrible play this game cause I'm not sure on the rest

Still would rather vote Nanook today tbh.

[Syn]

honestly I have no problems with just killing Syn today for his terrible play this game cause I'm not sure on the rest

"I protected Syn N2"

"We should chop Syn because he's been so terrible all game"

hmmyes.gif

[Syn]

also that sequence of quotes is not the thinker you're trying to say it is

if marmot flipped yesterday, Nanook would know the true alignment of the other check

[Syn]

Nanook suspects Creature D2
Nanook cops Creature N2
Nanook knows Creature's alignment is the opposite of whatever Marmot's alignment is, since Nanook checked Marmot N1
Nanook thinks Marmot is the more likely wolf based on association with Deli, who is the likely fake claim between Esooa and them

this is not rocket science

[Esooa]

Nanook suspects Creature D2
Nanook cops Creature N2
Nanook knows Creature's alignment is the opposite of whatever Marmot's alignment is, since Nanook checked Marmot N1
Nanook thinks Marmot is the more likely wolf based on association with Deli, who is the likely fake claim between Esooa and them

this is not rocket science

just saying but if this were a more experienced forum with regards to using parity cop nanook would die for a claim with those checks lol

anyways

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

[Gavial]

Nanook suspects Creature D2
Nanook cops Creature N2
Nanook knows Creature's alignment is the opposite of whatever Marmot's alignment is, since Nanook checked Marmot N1
Nanook thinks Marmot is the more likely wolf based on association with Deli, who is the likely fake claim between Esooa and them

this is not rocket science

just saying but if this were a more experienced forum with regards to using parity cop nanook would die for a claim with those checks lol

anyways

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

Explain how Syn is more likely to go over and is BETTER to go over then that of Nanook/Deli.

[Syn]

esooa looked at the game state and my comfort with the solve and said "fuck no, I am going to be wolfy as fuck just to really shake things up"

but I will persevere and stand fast, you cannot tempt me

[Esooa]

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

@Deli why do you say the first thing as if you're town reading Kami but that doesn't reflect in your list? These posts are very close together

[Esooa]

I realized Deli said that Kami wasn't out of her wolf range, so I suppose the reads list make sense though it's a bit weird to look at

Deli, I might have missed it but I'm interested in your read on Marmot! Would you mind explaining it some more?

Basically Marmot isn’t pinging me at all, they seem game solving and their reads list lacked agenda vibes. Maybe I’m biased because they had me at the top of their list and their avatar is cute— if I’m wrong that’s going to be my excuse and it can’t really be helped

Do people think this is partnered from Deli?

[Esooa]

Yes, but you're saying that the person she protected is possible scum when they should probably be cleared in that world.

Well it’s not so clear cut to me. I guess I need to claim because I won’t be here EOD.

I’m the JK. I JK’d Mac last night. This is why I came in voting him when there was no death, I thought for sure he was a wolf and I’d been the one to prevent the NK. Then Esooa claimed, and I realized my role actually would have protected Mac had he been the NK, although I still think that is unlikely and he is a wolf. Wiml could have been doctored against nothing, so I can’t clear him, Esooa has no incentive to claim there unless she believes she stopped the NK via doctoring. Anyway sorry guys I feel like I played it really bad and this is a new setup for me, I should have read the roles more carefully and understood.

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

this is a lie

Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on

this is pretty

oof okay I went to take a bath and missed a lot ig, why is thread always dead when I post and then I leave and people start talking. I feel like the loser at the sleepover.

I just realized I'm at 36 posts and I'd like to save my remaining posts for tomorrow morning

igno? - I thought igno came in really towny but after some reactions I think I misinterpreted so I'm uncertain but not willing to give up on the vibes

Did I really forget syn? I must have just forgotten about them, can't think of a single memorable post

Marmot seemed genuine to me and game-solvey, I didn't feel like there was an agenda and their reads just made sense to me.

Is Mac an audacious wolf? cause this page has just been him trending downward.
idg the wiml read at all, he's playing exactly like last game

maybe my reads are way off, I feel like I'm missing people a lot and there isn't a ton of actual interaction, but I'm just not smelling what some of you are stepping in ig and we don't see things the same here.

If there was another question I missed it's just going to have to go unanswered, it's late for me after a shitty day teaching 10 year olds about puberty. I'll be here all morning before EOD

I meant to include this in questioning if Deli/Marmot are together as well as the quote in my most previous post