The Fall of Númenor - Game Over!

[MacDougall]

It’s more like WimI and Esooa are confirmed confirmed town.
Mac is spewed town by Deli but still has a chance to be theatre.
I still wolf read Syn and I have since day 1.

I am spewed town by drunkenly pivoting off sleep onto Deli which led to the wolf flip.

[Creature]

@Marmot
@Creature

Whichever one of you is town you know the other is scum.
Who do you think the last scum is?

I'm leaning Kami because I remember someone pointing out Deli had them as town but suddenly dropped them to a null in their readslist right afterward, while I also remember some weird interactions between Kami and Deli. I don't remember Kami and Marmot ever interacting on the other hand.

[Creature]

please don't make me do an ISO

I want to be a cool Mafia player, not a nerd

Whenever I try to ISO someone I get bored halfway and start skipping through everything so I just gave up trying to ISO. Instead I work with what I remember.

[Creature]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Game-Days

This is my wolfgame if anyone is interested. I pretty much ended bussing my wolfbuddy who was a 1-shot vig D1 and then I spent D2 and D3 bussing another wolfbuddy who was a wolf rolecop. My last wolfbuddy was set up good so I didn't need to bus them at all and could just rid on towncred and town self-destructing to win. Though, I confess I don't want my wolf playstyle to be entirely on bussing. If you want to compare it with my towngame, there's 1984 mafia and Traitors for Exile both finished recently.

I think Marmot has been quite obvious wolf especially from the way they surfed around Deli EOD2 and then how they came into the thread after being difference checked. Though, I don't plan to spend today attacking them and defending myself unless prompted to do so.

[Syn]

my "creature deli serving up marmot" post is just iconic tbh

[Marmot]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Game-Days

This is my wolfgame if anyone is interested. I pretty much ended bussing my wolfbuddy who was a 1-shot vig D1 and then I spent D2 and D3 bussing another wolfbuddy who was a wolf rolecop. My last wolfbuddy was set up good so I didn't need to bus them at all and could just rid on towncred and town self-destructing to win. Though, I confess I don't want my wolf playstyle to be entirely on bussing. If you want to compare it with my towngame, there's 1984 mafia and Traitors for Exile both finished recently.

I think Marmot has been quite obvious wolf especially from the way they surfed around Deli EOD2 and then how they came into the thread after being difference checked. Though, I don't plan to spend today attacking them and defending myself unless prompted to do so.

Can you describe this "surfing" in a little more detail? Preferably with quotes and things.

[Esooa]

I'd read a scum game from creature but idc about the three hour game

[Esooa]

BTW there's actually no reason we need to kill in marmot/creature

we can absolutely kill in gavial/Kami

[Creature]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Game-Days

This is my wolfgame if anyone is interested. I pretty much ended bussing my wolfbuddy who was a 1-shot vig D1 and then I spent D2 and D3 bussing another wolfbuddy who was a wolf rolecop. My last wolfbuddy was set up good so I didn't need to bus them at all and could just rid on towncred and town self-destructing to win. Though, I confess I don't want my wolf playstyle to be entirely on bussing. If you want to compare it with my towngame, there's 1984 mafia and Traitors for Exile both finished recently.

I think Marmot has been quite obvious wolf especially from the way they surfed around Deli EOD2 and then how they came into the thread after being difference checked. Though, I don't plan to spend today attacking them and defending myself unless prompted to do so.

Can you describe this "surfing" in a little more detail? Preferably with quotes and things.

By day 4 my last wolfbuddy and I were pretty much almost everyone's top town, we spent that entire day tunneling on a town that looked very bad from the D3 wolf lynch. Day 5 (the last day) I got a bit of heat but I ended making town shift their attention entirely between two town players and then they lynched one of them and we won. I was kinda glad that game was only 3 hours each dayphase.

[Marmot]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Game-Days

This is my wolfgame if anyone is interested. I pretty much ended bussing my wolfbuddy who was a 1-shot vig D1 and then I spent D2 and D3 bussing another wolfbuddy who was a wolf rolecop. My last wolfbuddy was set up good so I didn't need to bus them at all and could just rid on towncred and town self-destructing to win. Though, I confess I don't want my wolf playstyle to be entirely on bussing. If you want to compare it with my towngame, there's 1984 mafia and Traitors for Exile both finished recently.

I think Marmot has been quite obvious wolf especially from the way they surfed around Deli EOD2 and then how they came into the thread after being difference checked. Though, I don't plan to spend today attacking them and defending myself unless prompted to do so.

Can you describe this "surfing" in a little more detail? Preferably with quotes and things.

By day 4 my last wolfbuddy and I were pretty much almost everyone's top town, we spent that entire day tunneling on a town that looked very bad from the D3 wolf lynch. Day 5 (the last day) I got a bit of heat but I ended making town shift their attention entirely between two town players and then they lynched one of them and we won. I was kinda glad that game was only 3 hours each dayphase.

Lol, you said I was surfing EOD2, and that's what I wanted an explanation on.


Off the record, I have been surfing, it's really had and exhausting, but pretty fun.

[Marmot]

*rad

[Marmot]

How funny and terrible would it be if Creature was actually town, but mafia made Creature action immune Night 3, and Nanook got a difference peek because my alignment is in fact different than null.

[Creature]

BTW there's actually no reason we need to kill in marmot/creature

we can absolutely kill in gavial/Kami

If we can find one strong enough disassociative read between Marmot/me and Gavial/Kami we might be able to lock this, but I want to be sure on Mac and Syn.

[Esooa]

BTW there's actually no reason we need to kill in marmot/creature

we can absolutely kill in gavial/Kami

If we can find one strong enough disassociative read between Marmot/me and Gavial/Kami we might be able to lock this, but I want to be sure on Mac and Syn.

look at delis posts regarding them

[Marmot]

Deli's interactions with Creature

Spoiler: show

I feel better about Wiml now. hollowkatt is fine too. I think I can do Gavial as he had like three consecutive posts and then disappeared.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Oh shit nvm I just have to select a button and then it works. So weird

Creature are you a regular wolf or deep wolf this time?

Wrt Creature, I think complaining about the low post cap multie times is towny. I can see a wolf complaining about it once or twice but when I'm seeing multiple complaints in the same vein I'm thinking this is a town who feels that their ability to solve has been impeded by the cap. A wolf I feel would care less about the cap at this stage given that it doesn't really impede their ability to push their goals because what wolf agenda are you unable to push because of the postcap at SoD1? But the big insistence on post cap being bad and every post must count makes me thing this is just a town feeling their solving is cramped by the cap.

See, like this feels like over clearing. Why wouldn’t a wolf be able to complain about post cap?

These first two posts are kinda light and whatever posts. The first one suggests to me that these two know each other. Whatever, nothing wrong with that one. The second is a softball interaction. Talking about what can be suspicious without naming anyone.

I think I can townread Falcon, Wiml, hollowkatt, Syn and Deli. The rest I don't know.

I think I might have been too quick to townread Wiml and Deli here although I thought they had town energy prior to this post. Syn at least I could relate to their posts and so it was easier for me to townread them.

This feels Hedgy to me tbh

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my pole/poll typo above is going to bother me omg

@Esooa is Kami mafia?

RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read

Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime

Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?

i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?

Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature

Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

Here's Deli's first shade thrown at Creature, followed by read in the not clear section of their rainbow. I voiced my concerns about Deli's handling of falcon Day 2. They mentioned 0 reasons for placing them so low in their rainbow, and yet, despite the shade that Creature received, they are higher up here.

Oof i don’t really want to vote with my wolf read here, wiml explain to me your thoughts on Esooa ? You’re better at reading her than me, I think I’m scarred for life from the one time she beat me lol

Looking at wagons their isn’t a pure one in sight, ig
[VOTE: creature] aubergine looks good. Do I need to vote itt and the poll? What gives?

Deli does vote for Creature. This comes about 2 hours 40 minutes before deadline. To give an idea of the poll state at the time after Deli voted here:

Wiml (4) - MacDougall, Syn, Creature, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Deli (2) - hollowkatt, falcon45ca
Creature (2) - Marmot, Deli
falcon45ca (1) - Esooa
ignoramus (1) - Wiml
Syn (1) - Gavial
hollowkatt (1) - Kami


This vote will likely be a point of contention among anyone who bothers to look into it. Deli placed a vote on Creature where I was already voting (although I moved my vote to Falcon not long later). Looking at all of the other wagons at this point, falcon and igno were the ones that later took off, they were both town. Wiml is basically confirmed town. Deli is confirmed scum. So, Deli voting for Creature to tie him with his own wagon is a little less meaningful than if there was no competing scum wagon. But I'll let other people interpret it how they will.

Deli moved his vote to falcon an hour or so later though.

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Vote Count 1.4

ignoramus (3) - Wiml, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
falcon45ca (3) - Esooa, Marmot, hollowkatt
Wiml (2) - Syn, Creature
Deli (1) - falcon45ca
Syn (1) - Gavial
Creature (1) - Deli
hollowkatt (1) - Kami

Not Voting (1) - ignoramus



Current Post Counts

Esooa - 47
Wiml - 43
Deli - 42
MacDougall - 41
hollowkatt - 38
Creature - 37
Gavial - 34
falcon45ca - 34
Kami - 25
Syn - 23
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 19
Marmot - 18
ignoramus - 8

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Yeah I'm fine with this now.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

I’m happy to go falcon, can we just make sure we are not tie-ing up the wagons? Like someone move from igno please

[VOTE: Falco] aubergine

Meh.

[VOTE: ignoramus] aubergine

[VOTE: Ignoramus] aubergine

[VOTE: igno] aubergine

[VOTE: Ifno] aubergine

[VOTE: igno] aubergine

Vote Count 1.Final

ignoramus (7) - MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Creature, Marmot, Esooa, Gavial, Wiml
falcon45ca (2) - hollowkatt, Deli
Wiml (1) - Syn
Deli (1) - falcon45ca
hollowkatt (1) - Kami

Not Voting (1) - ignoramus



Day One Final Post Counts

Esooa - 50
Wiml - 50
Deli - 48
Gavial - 46
Creature - 42
falcon45ca - 41
MacDougall - 41
hollowkatt - 40
Marmot - 33
Kami - 25
Syn - 23
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 19
ignoramus - 8

Tbh I think Creature and Marmot look worse than wiml for the switch onto igno, especially if falcon flips wolf.

Also noteable is Mac was wolf reading wiml, but then voted igno after him? Then never moved.

There's no point in me talking about this post since Creature and I are mentioned in the same breath.

Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?

I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.

Another post we can't really do much with since Deli treats Creature and I the same.

I'd still argue that Deli's comment about Creature here is a huge hedge (and uses the word "fine" twice as if Creature is an aged wine), and that the comment about me is more of an attempt to set himself up to vote on my yeet if it's an option. It's probably a moot argument.

I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot

Why creature?

Why deli?

Why marmot?

Why don’t you explain anything? Can you please play the game and stop messing around?

This mirror treatment is getting kinda ridiculous.

Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?

I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.

I don't think I can call falcons tone today townie at all. He's asked a few questions but for the most part that's all he's been doing. It looks like good work but until he starts analyzing answers (and I'm not sure he's gotten them but also doesn't look like he's following them up or re-asking) I'm not sure that he's actually doing townie things.
Someone stopped the kill from happening last night, we know that to be true.

What we don't know is who was the NK target and who saved them. Esooa claims to have saved Wiml from the NK, Syn says that's a lie, but Syn also isn't ccing Esooa. I still believe Syn to be townie, even with the way he's clearly fucking around today.
I don't think Creature has been wolfy at all, I don't really get why people are wolf reading him.

Mac is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle wrapped in a soft burrito blanket. That is to say he's playing like Mac. Some trolling, some reads, and nothing you can take to a bank.

Marmot eh I guess? you know what you did marmot but really I don't see marmot wolf here either.

Gavial always seems like a chop to go for, I've had that thought a couple games now as both alignments. Definitely want to see more "solve" and less "I'm So RaNdOm" from him today.

Wiml is an interesting case. Only wiml and the wolves know for sure if he was the NK target or not. Even Esooa can't be 100% positive b/c he could have been JK even if she is the doctor.
I like his tone, and he's been doing some solving/making reads, so that's good.

this is the first good post I've seen from you all game. lifts my morale a little bit ty

I think falcon coming in and asking questions after being the counter wagon to a villa was towny. I guess the lack of solving/analyzing is concerning, could be light anti-spew ? since he is 100% in the poe unless something mechanical happens.

Creature is a skilled wolf, he's wolf almost every recent game I've played with him (sorry I know you hate meta). It takes me some time to clear him, and so far I have not seen any reason to. Solid poe for me.

Mac.

Marmot is certainly not for lunch today, but I'd say d1 was +ev imo, today has been much less compelling.

Gavial. lmao "I'm So RaNdOm" perfectly encapsulates this person's posting. Never not chopping this salad.

Wiml. " Even Esooa can't be 100% positive b/c he could have been JK even if she is the doctor."
We know the night kill or the 'night killer' could have also been JK'd, we know that to be true. Feels like you are assuming wiml was the NK in the bolded? ...

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anyways....

time to hit the gym. bbl.

This statement is probably a better example of teammate compatibility than the rest of them on Day 2 to this point. hollowkatt mentioned a strong townread of Creature, and Deli took advantage of this opportunity to cast shade on a teammate in an instance where it probably wasn't going to lead to anything. And really, the shade is pretty weak anyway. Deli called him a skilled wolf as if that's a good reason to scumread someone.

pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance

That's what I felt too.

"oh shit I'm alive" yeah a fucking joyous entry, wtaf is going on.

Nanook/Syn/Creature probably the wolf team, possibly Nanook/Mac/? would make sense since we're getting railroaded.

It makes sense if you think you can line up the MLs to win… like you want us to go Marmot/creature in some order and if one flips town we still lunch the other?

How many mislunches do we even have left? Of creature/marmot are t/t do we still have a shot?

Not really anything interesting in these last two posts imo, but this was probably anti-spew time anyway. Still, I'll include them in case anyone wants to see them.

Creature's interactions with Deli

Spoiler: show

I feel better about Wiml now. hollowkatt is fine too. I think I can do Gavial as he had like three consecutive posts and then disappeared.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Oh shit nvm I just have to select a button and then it works. So weird

Creature are you a regular wolf or deep wolf this time?

I know for sure I'm no regular wolf.

How annoying. We have this day and the entire tomorrow and one more half a day. Syn's avatar is my exact mood right now tbh.

I think I can townread Falcon, Wiml, hollowkatt, Syn and Deli. The rest I don't know.

Creature gave him an early Day 1 TR. Considering everything else that Creature had talked about to this point, Deli had the worst reason to be townread.

I’m sus of anyone who has this many town reads on d1 but ig I admire the confidence.

I think town has more incentive to gather that many townreads while wolves tend to leave things as open as possible as long as possible.

Kinda disagree you and Kami are wolves here. I think Gavial and NANOOK are most likely to be wolves here, but I'm still a bit unsure.

Softball interaction. Disagreed on a thing that looks productive but isn't in the first line.

Side note, I don't know if Creature would list both partners in one breath here, so I'm inclined to lean Gavial over Kami as the third partner based on this post.

I think I can townread Falcon, Wiml, hollowkatt, Syn and Deli. The rest I don't know.

I think I might have been too quick to townread Wiml and Deli here although I thought they had town energy prior to this post. Syn at least I could relate to their posts and so it was easier for me to townread them.

Someone else townreads Deli and Creature quickly backs off. LOL!

Deli/Esooa probably town will explain tomorrow but tired.

I think I should be able to better read them D2 or D3, hence I wouldn't go for them today. Wiml also seems fine so far.

Now Creature says he'll have a better read on Deli later.

Good morning, folks!

I solemnly vow to hammer any wagon on any day

for the memes, you see

I volunteer as tribute!

It me, oof now I see why this kinda thing is annoying but it is towny af

Not vibing w/ Esooa and wiml pocket attempts— idk Esooa null for me rn I’m trying not to tunnel again >.<

Slow game is slow, idk this is tough for a spammer like me. When do things pick up??

Meh, this looks town!Deli.

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

Why the townreads on Mac, Nanook and ignoramus?

no about literally anything in the thread

Yeah, Creature has way too many players in his town list

does that make him mafia?

I don't know, we'd have to flip him and see

Sure, but that would mean wolves will be one mislynch closer to their wincon so let's not.

But that quickly turns back into a townread. Creature does talk about Deli a lot on Day 1.


This is the end of the random read Creature assigns Deli Day 1. Creature does ask Deli a number of questions on Day 2, but there were too many for me to bother trying to quote them all.

igno? - I thought igno came in really towny but after some reactions I think I misinterpreted so I'm uncertain but not willing to give up on the vibes

I'm not getting the same vibes, but I confess I don't really know how to read ignoramus here.

Did I really forget syn? I must have just forgotten about them, can't think of a single memorable post

They were very present early game, but haven't seen them lately.

Marmot seemed genuine to me and game-solvey, I didn't feel like there was an agenda and their reads just made sense to me.

Fair.

Is Mac an audacious wolf? cause this page has just been him trending downward.

I suppose Mac can do well both as town and as wolf. Would rather see what happens.

idg the wiml read at all, he's playing exactly like last game

What game?

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

I dunno.

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

I have the opposite view.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

How am I fine for lunch?

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Feels like bullshitting for me, but whatever.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

I doubt Esooa has any mafia motivation to claim doctor here. Esooa seemed pretty good D1 and claiming doctor is probably a death sentence here. The PR lying is probably between Deli and NANOOK. If Deli is the one lying, that means Wiml is probably cleared atp.

Heard something that might point Gavial town, but I have to re-check.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.

I disagree on Wiml here. I think they're pretty towny regardless of Esooa thing.

Creature has this occasional tendency to respond to Deli's full posts point-by-point. Random observation. Probably the most interesting part is that Deli never responds and Creature doesn't ever seem bothered by it.

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

I doubt Esooa has any mafia motivation to claim doctor here. Esooa seemed pretty good D1 and claiming doctor is probably a death sentence here. The PR lying is probably between Deli and NANOOK. If Deli is the one lying, that means Wiml is probably cleared atp.

Day 3. This is when things get more interesting with our PRs being pigeonholed with 4 claims (one dead) and 3 possibilities. Creature's first response here is to say that Esooa is telling the truth and that if Deli is lying... Wiml is cleared?

I sort of get this logic. But also this is an attempt to wait and see what the thread decides to do before committing to either Nannok or Deli as the liar.

Can we agree Esooa is likely town here?

If yes, then I think it may be more optimal for us to always lynch Deli here. If Deli flips jailkeeper then we almost always lynch NANOOK the next day. If Deli flips mafia then we can solve Marmot/me the next day.

This post came 13 minutes after the last one.

I kinda just want to simplify things.

If Deli is the one lying then we can clear NANOOK, Esooa and potentially Wiml. We'll also know one of Marmot/me is wolf and the last one should probably be between MacDougall/Gavial/Kami/Syn.

If NANOOK is the one lying then by then we'll only be able to really clear Esooa (assuming we lynch Deli first here). Anyone else could potentially be wolf.

If Esooa is the one lying then this strategy is probably straight out losing. Hence why would like input from everyone.

And this one 22 minutes after the last one.

Yes timing is important here. Deli was just pseudo-CC'd in the thread, so the scum are likely taking time to decide how to proceed from here. Taking 22 minutes to think about it and sort of reiterate what he's already said is more evidence of that.

I will give Creature credit, he did immediately shift to bussing Deli, which he kinda had to, because otherwise if he is to push for a Nanook yeet and it goes over, it will look incredibly obvious he's paired with Deli.


This is kinda the end of what I will pull from his ISO, Day 3 is more iterations of the same, and the bus is already in full effect, so there isn't much reason to cover any further.

Here are my observations of interactions between the two. I don't blame anyone for not reading, but it's here if you do.

[Marmot]

I’m sus of anyone who has this many town reads on d1 but ig I admire the confidence.

I think town has more incentive to gather that many townreads while wolves tend to leave things as open as possible as long as possible.

Kinda disagree you and Kami are wolves here. I think Gavial and NANOOK are most likely to be wolves here, but I'm still a bit unsure.

This is probably Creature's most interesting post. He disagrees that Deli and Kami are wolves in the same sentence, which is a bold move for someone to mention both of their partners in the same sentence.

[Kami]

Yeah i dont hard defend my partner like that, especially if they have that much heat

[Syn]

Yeah i dont hard defend my partner like that, especially if they have that much heat

ngl I want to see this post as outing

[Syn]

BTW there's actually no reason we need to kill in marmot/creature

we can absolutely kill in gavial/Kami

can you explain this to me

[Syn]

oh wait I see

[Kami]

how is that post outting

[Esooa]

BTW there's actually no reason we need to kill in marmot/creature

we can absolutely kill in gavial/Kami

can you explain this to me

there's one mafia in creature/marmot by mech

There's ones in kami/gavial by PoE

[Kami]

How is there a mafia between me and gavial

[Syn]

how is that post outting

because you came here after not posting simply to say you're not associated with the flipped wolf, which either means you're following along enough to defend yourself or someone else has told you that you need to get involved

[Syn]

marmot's been townie today tbh tbh

[Esooa]

Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?

I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.

this post is way more team indicative of deli/creature imo

[Esooa]

How is there a mafia between me and gavial

"by poe"

[Kami]

how is that post outting

because you came here after not posting simply to say you're not associated with the flipped wolf, which either means you're following along enough to defend yourself or someone else has told you that you need to get involved

Its 48 hour days why would I need to be here asap. Also I read the thread and people are saying im partners with deli, but I don't think any wolf hard defends a partner that was top wagon at the time.

Angleshooting attempt is cool though

[Esooa]

Creature has this occasional tendency to respond to Deli's full posts point-by-point. Random observation. Probably the most interesting part is that Deli never responds and Creature doesn't ever seem bothered by it.

Actually, Creature does this to BOTH Deli and Gavial. He did it twice to one of them. And zero times to anyone else

[Marmot]

Can someone remind me why Mac isn't a wolf again?

[Esooa]

Can someone remind me why Mac isn't a wolf again?

Deli pushed him a decent amount day 1/2 and used their JK claim to scum read him in a weird way I don't think is partnered and etc

[Kami]

Naw mac is wolfy as fuck and the push was pretty weak

[Marmot]

Can someone remind me why Mac isn't a wolf again?

Deli pushed him a decent amount day 1/2 and used their JK claim to scum read him in a weird way I don't think is partnered and etc

Oh right, I forgot about the weird scumread.

[Marmot]

Ngl, Kami feels more cornered than Gavial does today, which has me leaning in that direction.

[Kami]

how am i cornered at all lmao

[Esooa]

Boxed in? Me? The fuck are you talking about?

[MacDougall]

Marmot is the wolf I am telling you.

[Marmot]

Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

Naw mac is wolfy as fuck and the push was pretty weak

[Kami]

All that shows me is that deli says af and i say as fuck instead

[Marmot]

Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol

[Syn]

how is that post outting

because you came here after not posting simply to say you're not associated with the flipped wolf, which either means you're following along enough to defend yourself or someone else has told you that you need to get involved

Its 48 hour days why would I need to be here asap. Also I read the thread and people are saying im partners with deli, but I don't think any wolf hard defends a partner that was top wagon at the time.

Angleshooting attempt is cool though

that's... not what an angleshoot is

[MacDougall]

Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol

You mean how I voted the wolf out of the game and you tried to hard defend them.

[Kami]

how is that post outting

because you came here after not posting simply to say you're not associated with the flipped wolf, which either means you're following along enough to defend yourself or someone else has told you that you need to get involved

Its 48 hour days why would I need to be here asap. Also I read the thread and people are saying im partners with deli, but I don't think any wolf hard defends a partner that was top wagon at the time.

Angleshooting attempt is cool though

that's... not what an angleshoot is

I mean implying I'm only posting because of out of game communication telling me to is kinda angleshooting js

[Syn]

Mac's posting sucks but Deli tried too hard to kill him before it could be seen as necessary

[Kami]

Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol

You mean how I voted the wolf out of the game and you tried to hard defend them.

I mean deli was gonna get lynched regardless, and her claim would be w/w theater.
Also you're acting pretty fake about the whole "GG GAME RESOVLED" stuff

[Syn]

how is that post outting

because you came here after not posting simply to say you're not associated with the flipped wolf, which either means you're following along enough to defend yourself or someone else has told you that you need to get involved

Its 48 hour days why would I need to be here asap. Also I read the thread and people are saying im partners with deli, but I don't think any wolf hard defends a partner that was top wagon at the time.

Angleshooting attempt is cool though

that's... not what an angleshoot is

I mean implying I'm only posting because of out of game communication telling me to is kinda angleshooting js

cool story, wolf

[Kami]

I don't see how deli tried hard, I remember her switching votes off him at a whim

[MacDougall]

Marmot - "Unvote Deli he's towan u guise"
Mac - *votes Deli and kills him. Flips mafia*
Kami and Marmot - "wow mac is woofy and bad reAdz"

[Kami]

how is that post outting

because you came here after not posting simply to say you're not associated with the flipped wolf, which either means you're following along enough to defend yourself or someone else has told you that you need to get involved

Its 48 hour days why would I need to be here asap. Also I read the thread and people are saying im partners with deli, but I don't think any wolf hard defends a partner that was top wagon at the time.

Angleshooting attempt is cool though

that's... not what an angleshoot is

I mean implying I'm only posting because of out of game communication telling me to is kinda angleshooting js

cool story, wolf

damn u got me

[Esooa]

Kami figure out who it is in Marmot/Creature or die idc about these posts