RPG Mafia MAFIA WIN

[Syn]

NAA and Urist both post at the same time that they want to switch from Scotty to Dunia, both switch votes in poll silently, both do this after Creature considers voting Scotty and tying the vote

[Creature]

Wagons might be v/v in which case we should probably look at the wagons that were present in the middle of the day, such as the Dolby wagon.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I want to kill Jack for continuously asking people to make cases, not presenting his own opinion and acting like he should have no responsibility for where his vote falls.

If I had read the entire thread and had a bunch of my own good opinions, I wouldn't need to ask now would I?

It's not even a function of alignment.

[NotAnAxehole]

I have found a game where I would have incorrectly scum read Scotty D1 based on my tell (of course it's a town tell, so he doesn't necessarily always do it day 1).

I would give Scotty another day maybe... For science.

this is what i was saying yesterday

I know you were saying this, but I didn't want to put in the work, and Scotty was being counterproductive.

[Creature]

Do we need a majority to lynch?

[Syn]

Do we need a majority to lynch?

no

[hollowkatt]

here's a thing to think about that just occurred to me.
If creature is a wolf he's doing a fantastic job of spewing dunya town and I don't think creature is the kind of wolf to spew someone as capable as dunya town, so then I have to think are they paired and if so today has been full of theater. and if that's the case probably we're kinda fucked.

In the vein of not wanting to be kinda fucked I'm going to say creature and dunya aren't w/w together, and that creature, being not a dumb wolf, is not spewing dunya town, making creature town. Dunya otoh may not be town but we can't discern that from this threadstate.

why do you think creature is spewing dunya town?

no no that was the original starting point: If creature is a wolf he spews dunya town by dying as a wolf.

Then from there I took off and determined that creature isn't a wolf b/c he's not dumb.

so your argument is that creature would just not get caught as a wolf? or if he did get caught, that he would make sure it would be by someone incompetent?

kinda, but more like his vote has been parked on dunya for eons, so if he flips wolf here dunya is hard spewed town. I don't think creature is an incompetent wolf, far from it. So why would a competent wolf leave their vote parked there even after gaining some suspicion. It's more the vote state creature has left for himself than anything that tells me he's town.

was Dunya a wagon before irl today?

I think dunya hit 4-5 and creature is the only one left

[Urist]

here's a thing to think about that just occurred to me.
If creature is a wolf he's doing a fantastic job of spewing dunya town and I don't think creature is the kind of wolf to spew someone as capable as dunya town, so then I have to think are they paired and if so today has been full of theater. and if that's the case probably we're kinda fucked.

In the vein of not wanting to be kinda fucked I'm going to say creature and dunya aren't w/w together, and that creature, being not a dumb wolf, is not spewing dunya town, making creature town. Dunya otoh may not be town but we can't discern that from this threadstate.

why do you think creature is spewing dunya town?

no no that was the original starting point: If creature is a wolf he spews dunya town by dying as a wolf.

Then from there I took off and determined that creature isn't a wolf b/c he's not dumb.

so your argument is that creature would just not get caught as a wolf? or if he did get caught, that he would make sure it would be by someone incompetent?

kinda, but more like his vote has been parked on dunya for eons, so if he flips wolf here dunya is hard spewed town. I don't think creature is an incompetent wolf, far from it. So why would a competent wolf leave their vote parked there even after gaining some suspicion. It's more the vote state creature has left for himself than anything that tells me he's town.

ok i misunderstood then
and yeah i kind of agree, his play doesn't feel pro-wolf.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I want to kill Jack for continuously asking people to make cases, not presenting his own opinion and acting like he should have no responsibility for where his vote falls.

If I had read the entire thread and had a bunch of my own good opinions, I wouldn't need to ask now would I?

It's not even a function of alignment.

Also, 5 min ago, it was not out of the question that I could end up being tiebreaker vote. I want to be the most informed tiebreaker possible since it's not like ideal for me to break a tie concerning a player that I had read very little of.

Now, it's a lot less likely that I'm tiebreaker between Creature and Scotty since Creature has twice as many votes as Scotty.

[Dolby]

NAA and Urist both post at the same time that they want to switch from Scotty to Dunia, both switch votes in poll silently, both do this after Creature considers voting Scotty and tying the vote

I think that Scotty has been in contention enough today, long enough with creature specifically, that it means exactly nothing

[NotAnAxehole]

tbh, the odds of successfully axing Dunya today are pretty low.

[Creature]

hollowkatt looks fine. tbh felt Syn's softdefense of me was wolfier like trying to act as the voice of reason but not really pushing against it.

[Syn]

hollowkatt looks fine. tbh felt Syn's softdefense of me was wolfier like trying to act as the voice of reason but not really pushing against it.

what kind of defense is "ok he can die"

[Dolby]

tbh, the odds of successfully axing Dunya today are pretty low.

you have 10 minutes to sell me i guess

[MacDougall]

time to snipe

[Syn]

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

(Sorry, Creature) He was aimless and disconnected in Panda Mafia, and he's aimless and disconnected here. Was he materially different in LOTR?

(I'm not arguing against your point, I just don't want to actually go check myself )

the difference is drive and defeatist attitude imo, that's the distinction between his town and scum games.

but there's no drive in the town games either tho

but there are reads. and like...pushes

yes, and w!creature retreats in his shell at any sight of suspicion, very much like he's done here.

ok he can die

[Urist]

NAA and Urist both post at the same time that they want to switch from Scotty to Dunia, both switch votes in poll silently, both do this after Creature considers voting Scotty and tying the vote

um actually i announced it right before your post so there

[hollowkatt]

hollowkatt looks fine. tbh felt Syn's softdefense of me was wolfier like trying to act as the voice of reason but not really pushing against it.

what kind of defense is "ok he can die"

very soft, lots of nuance

[Creature]

hollowkatt looks fine. tbh felt Syn's softdefense of me was wolfier like trying to act as the voice of reason but not really pushing against it.

what kind of defense is "ok he can die"

When you were saying something like I do X every game.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm getting such bad vibes from Syn but I feel like the answer is just "Syn is town and you're going to look stupid, Jack."

[Syn]

NAA and Urist both post at the same time that they want to switch from Scotty to Dunia, both switch votes in poll silently, both do this after Creature considers voting Scotty and tying the vote

I think that Scotty has been in contention enough today, long enough with creature specifically, that it means exactly nothing

how can you think that, Mr. I Have Missed Half the Game?

[Syn]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

thanks

[Syn]

hollowkatt looks fine. tbh felt Syn's softdefense of me was wolfier like trying to act as the voice of reason but not really pushing against it.

what kind of defense is "ok he can die"

When you were saying something like I do X every game.

you said it too tho

[Creature]

Voters: Dolby, dyachei, Marmot, Le petit poussin, DrWilgy, dunya

Meh just look for wolves within this list, especially if Dolby is a wolf.

[NotAnAxehole]

tbh, the odds of successfully axing Dunya today are pretty low.

you have 10 minutes to sell me i guess

Le Petit I've hydraed with, been in countless games together, wolfed with and against him, been town against his wolf (I think), and generally there's just a ton of history there, maybe more than anyone else in this thread. I'm not claiming to be a Le Petit god reader. I am claiming to have a lot of insight into how he's going to approach a game and I believe this to be his town game.

i dunno, i think town rask is more aggressive and tunnels---at least that's my experience wit him when i was wolf and he wouldn't let me go ;p

he's been a bit too much "ok then" *unvotes* here for my liking.

i shall continue to observe, but thems the feels.

BREAKING UNFAKE NEWS: rask isn't a tunneller. he accurately tunneled me in a game when no one else listened to him about me being scum (i was scum). people are misinterpreting that take. so i would like the records to show, i am not saying rask is tunneled. just that he did that one time to me....

[Creature]

Dolby wagon like collapsed which is usually >rand wolf indicative.

[Dolby]

Voters: Dolby, dyachei, Marmot, Le petit poussin, DrWilgy, dunya

Meh just look for wolves within this list, especially if Dolby is a wolf.

ok?

why me specifically?

[Dolby]

Dolby wagon like collapsed which is usually >rand wolf indicative.

oh

yeah that did happen

[TonyStarkPrime]

vote dunya for the memes

[hollowkatt]

I just watched someone make a pork challah bread and smoked it and now I'm questioning everything I knew about the universe. how could a kind and loving god allow such abominations to exist

[Creature]

Have we found a wolf?

Gonna assume Dolby is the caught wolf

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

Have we found a wolf?

Gonna assume Dolby is the caught wolf

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

I'm getting such bad vibes from Syn but I feel like the answer is just "Syn is town and you're going to look stupid, Jack."

Syn is town and you're going to look stupid, Jack

[Dolby]

creature swapped to dunya fyi

[Syn]

The flash wagon onto Dunia is incredibly bad.

[Creature]

Meh. This is probably an easy wolf win.

[Dolby]

also HK you should stop just chilling on Jack tbh

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine more as a defense of Dunya than of Scotty, who I'm still okay with yeeting.

[hollowkatt]

Dolby wagon like collapsed which is usually >rand wolf indicative.

legit why tho? also I have seen more dolby wagons collapse in early game on town dolby than I have seen wolf dolby rands. or I'm recency biased. either way, dolby town

[NotAnAxehole]

There is at least one mafia in each of these 3 lists:

List 1:
LinearPoint
TSP
Mac
Hollowkat
Urist
Le Petit Poisson

List 2:
Dolby
Dunya
Urist
Le Petit Poisson
TSP
Mac

List 3:
Dunya
Hallowkatt
Scotty
Le Petit Poisson
Dolby
TSP
Mac
Urist

[MacDougall]

Meh. This is probably an easy wolf win.

lol

[Urist]

The flash wagon onto Dunia is incredibly bad.

dunya is mafia so no

[hollowkatt]

also HK you should stop just chilling on Jack tbh

what if I don't wanna

[Syn]

There is at least one mafia in each of these 3 lists:

List 1:
LinearPoint
TSP
Mac
Hollowkat
Urist
Le Petit Poisson

List 2:
Dolby
Dunya
Urist
Le Petit Poisson
TSP
Mac

List 3:
Dunya
Hallowkatt
Scotty
Le Petit Poisson
Dolby
TSP
Mac
Urist

I specifically asked to be put on a list

[TonyStarkPrime]

look if creature flips town then we're chopping dunya tomorrow and I'm not taking no for an answer

[MacDougall]

Scotty is a better chop

[Jackofhearts2005]

The flash wagon onto Dunia is incredibly bad.

I'm not for yeeting Dunya but like.....who makes that flash wagon to save Creature unless it's Creature/Scotty/???/??? in which case ??? and ??? can't be all that responsible for the flash wagon on Dunya.

TLDR: What?

[Creature]

Dolby wagon like collapsed which is usually >rand wolf indicative.

legit why tho? also I have seen more dolby wagons collapse in early game on town dolby than I have seen wolf dolby rands. or I'm recency biased. either way, dolby town

Okay then either Scotty/dunya must contain wolf or we had a really atrocious D1 in which case we should start tomorrow from zero.

[NotAnAxehole]

I think Dunya and Jack are both mafia... Maybe Mac too.

[MacDougall]

look if creature flips town then we're chopping dunya tomorrow and I'm not taking no for an answer

lmao