staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:01 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:51 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:45 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:17 pm
Also @staypositivefriend , how were you town reading Alison for her read/progression on you?
Like I even pointed out that the way Alison was reading you as mafia was very weird esp in the world where you are town. Since Alison was sr you, despite how you were agreeing with her pov of creature being mafia and were defending her. It is very odd to me that you kind of dismissed that from Alison as her read on you did not feel organic in any way tbh.
Also, not only were some of Alison's reasonings for reads not good, she has also pushed on Jack (died town), pushed creature (died town), and from your perspective SPF, Alison has been pushing you as well.
So from your POV SPF, Alison has pushed on 3 town, so even if you want to give her the benefit of the doubt with "pelts," that argument also fails. So I am wondering why you were defending Alison yesterday and if you still believe she is town today despite this?
okay i can give a longer response to this now
i guess my question for you is: why should i scumread alison for reading me as mafia? why is it not OK for me to townread her because she's scumreading me? i care much more about whether her read is coming from an authentic place and whether it makes strategic sense than whether or not the read is "correct". i think alison's progression on me makes sense from an alison!town POV, which is why i don't find it wolfy that she has pushed on me even though the reasoning behind her push is honestly kind of horrible
it's true that alison has pushed on mainly town so far, and it's also true that i think the best way to read alison is by her results, so i think the fact that we are on d3 and she hasn't provided us with any pelts yet is the most compelling argument for her being a wolf. even so, the fact that she's been in such a precarious and bizarre position makes me feel like she would be less likely to successfully find the mafia in a world where she's town, and if i was in her shoes as a villager i imagine it would be difficult to correctly analyze the gamestate. so, i think her inaccuracy in this game is slightly less concerning to me when i take into consideration the bizarre context that the game is in
Wow, this is rich coming from you tbh, you’re giving Alison the benefit of the doubt for being in a “wrong gamestate” and when creature was in a similar position, you piled on him like there was no tomorrow?? WhTs that about?
Also, it’s not the “objective” read itself, it’s the progression and the way she came to the read that she believes you are mafia bc of the Jack NK despite how you were treating her. Like, she just mafia read u mainly off that and that she’s afraid she’s on your side in a pocket way?
lmfao what the fuck even is this post? my reasoning for townreading alison and my reasoning for pushing on creature were so fundementally different that it's absurd to draw a comparison between the two. creature spent over 24 hours throwing a fit in the thread and making a ton of posts that were so incoherent that they came off like anti-spew, and generally seemed like they were ready to leave the game at a point when they could have easily survived
i'm not placing the blame on creature because ultimately, it's my responsibility for reading him incorrectly, but his play or positioning in the thread wasn't even similar to the way that alison was playing
also idk what the last paragraph means either, alison's read on me was mostly based on NKA but it's not unusual for alison to heavily favor NKA when she's town and it isn't inherently woly for her
I’ll try to say this nice as possible spf, all these big words are too much for me right now, but I’ll say is, my point is that rn, Alison is in the same place as creature was, which was the whole thread is piling and wanting to kill then. Which is what you are ignoring from my previous point.
And my point is, like how many chances are you giving Alison? It seems like screw up after screw up you’re giving Alison a “pass” and are pissed off that this game seems like an “inside joke” that you can’t fit into. Idek wtf that means tbh.
I’ve explained how Alison purely pushed or had a sr on u for NK, but despite how you treated her or approached her slot, she believed that you were still mafia and even partnered to creature?!? Like how tf does that make sense and why would u think that’s townie from Alison? Like some of her treatment of her reads, you included, doesn’t seem townie tbh.
You even talked about Nenom, and I pointed out some weird progressions from both their slots that seem very odd and partnery.
And in addition to those reads and progressions, I still showed you that Alison doesn’t have any pelts either. Wrong on three alignments from your POV. So what about Alison is so townie to you that I don’t see?
And you know what spf, you are sticking from the outside, cause clearly throughout this whole game, we have had differing perspectives and tend to agree on very little and that makes me shake my head left and right like I am rn in this drunk state.