The Syndicate

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:00 pmKylemii - Town lean, mainly based on tone

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:43 pm Yeaaaahhhh [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

That INH "case" is so beyond fake

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:47 pm I disagree really hard with speed's INH case but I'm not sure if it's fake.

I wonder if speed was suspecting him before or if he only decided to pay attention to him now, though.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:52 pm this case is like flavorless expired tofu

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:11 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:50 pm Speedchuck ignored his rainbow list because he doesn't care about it, it's not real, he doesn't actually trust or suspect anyone he put on that list in any color, he just wanted to look productive and he is bad.

Kay.

So, if I'm bad, what is my logic behind anything I've done this dayphase? Just saying that it doesn't hold town logic is bad. Where is the scum logic?
"Wanted to look productive."
Psh. I'm pretty good at blending when bad. Let me give you some meta context.

I just got out of two scum games and a town game. MK, LOTR, and Buffy.

Scum: I survived in MK until I alignment claimed, with only Mac and maybe Dunya voicing suspicion along the way. Nothing gained any traction. I survived in LOTR by making posts, giving effort, and laying low. Typical scum games for me. Clean, smart, calculated (except for the alignment claim. Don't ask.)

Town: I survived in Buffy as town because my D1 play was crappy and my BTSC partner wasted his role protecting me. Then I gambited in order not to be lynched, despite having a lynchproof I forgot about, got lynched anyway and survived. I then vigged two townies, wrote off the ENTIRE EFFING SCUMTEAM as town, and lost the game, despite having gut scumreads on some of the baddies in early game. It was a crapshoot, and I made some weird choices, especially in the early days.

Tell me, which one of these recent games more matches my behavior in this game?

If you think I'm good enough to calculate my horrendous town game and put on an act, then i thank you for the compliment. But I LIKE having little suspicion. I LIKE playing scum games and being the supahtown smart guy. I LIKE being on top of things. But I'm not a good enough hunter to do that as town.

You can hate self-calls to meta if you want, but the fact of the matter is: if I were scum, I'd have an inkling of an idea what I'm doing.

Total votes: 10

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:39 pm Rereading some, today seems slow but this is also one of the few games in a while when I've felt lazier than some games.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:58 am I see Luna's fairly popular. On the one hand I'd love her as a Captain but I would also love to have her on my crew.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:40 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:39 pm Rereading some, today seems slow but this is also one of the few games in a while when I've felt lazier than some games.

Is that a scumtell of yours?

Enrique wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:19 pm I'm here! This looks very complicated lol but at least there's not a lot of talk yet. Will catch up now.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:35 am Man it looks like I went with the popular choices, but I swear I had those people in mind before the thread opened. Guess the rest of you had similar ideas.

This post also gives me bad vibes, seems overly worried with how others will view your votes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:15 pm Regarding the rest of the Luna case:

I think it is based on her lack of hunting, and her excuses for her lack of hunting, yes? I could see that coming from town or scum Luna. Please summarize the case, if I have misunderstood it.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:27 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:35 am Man it looks like I went with the popular choices, but I swear I had those people in mind before the thread opened. Guess the rest of you had similar ideas.

This post also gives me bad vibes, seems overly worried with how others will view your votes.

Kinda, but it's more like a vague annoyance at seeing that my picks were not as cool or original as I thought

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:48 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:15 pm Regarding the rest of the Luna case:

I think it is based on her lack of hunting, and her excuses for her lack of hunting, yes? I could see that coming from town or scum Luna. Please summarize the case, if I have misunderstood it.

It's not just scumhunting, it's how much she seems to care about the crew aspect of the game in comparison.

It's such an easy thing for mafia to latch on and coast with it's not even funny.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:44 pm
The best leaders are the ones who don't want it.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:42 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:58 am I see Luna's fairly popular. On the one hand I'd love her as a Captain but I would also love to have her on my crew.

^posts like this one still make me unsure of my captain. Where he talks about two things but doesn't give a clear statement about where he is actually at.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:53 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:44 pm
The best leaders are the ones who don't want it.

Also, if this train of thought is true, I would probably be a good leader at work in real life.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:48 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:15 pm Regarding the rest of the Luna case:

I think it is based on her lack of hunting, and her excuses for her lack of hunting, yes? I could see that coming from town or scum Luna. Please summarize the case, if I have misunderstood it.

It's not just scumhunting, it's how much she seems to care about the crew aspect of the game in comparison.

It's such an easy thing for mafia to latch on and coast with it's not even funny.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:59 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm I see no way that Golden isn't town in this game.*

Be careful, that is a dangerous path to take.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm So why is MacDougall and DrWilgy voting to lynch him? Not a good look for either of them.

Agree with this though.

*disclaimer: I am an ignorant townie, I may make mistakes.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm I see no way that Golden isn't town in this game. So why is MacDougall and DrWilgy voting to lynch him? Not a good look for either of them.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:02 pm I'm going to [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine for now.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:10 pm [VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine @Lunalee

I still don't want DDL lynched, but I also found this post troubling.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:59 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm I see no way that Golden isn't town in this game.*

Be careful, that is a dangerous path to take.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm So why is MacDougall and DrWilgy voting to lynch him? Not a good look for either of them.

Agree with this though.

*disclaimer: I am an ignorant townie, I may make mistakes.

So why the need for the disclaimer?

She says this below:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm I see no way that Golden isn't town in this game. So why is MacDougall and DrWilgy voting to lynch him? Not a good look for either of them.

Then this post where she votes for mac.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:02 pm I'm going to [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine for now.

She makes another post and then makes her disclaimer post.

It's also as if you knew Mac would flip town. I'm kind of wondering what the votes exactly looked like at that moment. Cause if the votes were in favor of Mac dying then, the disclaimer would be an attempt to save skin.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:06 pm
Do I seriously look like I care about my crew? I only hired 3, we failed our mission, and I have now fired you and found no one willing to be a replacement. I've pretty much given up on that aspect of the game right now.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:13 pm
The disclaimer was an attempt to save skin. There is always a chance someone I think is scum will flip town. When that happens, I know the target shifts to whoever started the train, or was active in it. I really hope you guys realize that my intentions were pure, and we don't end up with another townie lynch today. Because if you lynch me I WILL flip town.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:15 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:06 pm
Do I seriously look like I care about my crew? I only hired 3, we failed our mission, and I have now fired you and found no one willing to be a replacement. I've pretty much given up on that aspect of the game right now.

Do you not mesh well with your crew? Or just complications with other stuff in your life making you feel a little bit stressed out right now?

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:23 pm Sorry, I’ve had to phone it in this phase (figuratively and literally). I ended up being very busy, not at home for most of the weekend, as some stuff happened. I’m both exhausted and I have to get some work done, so my chances of catching up during the phase are zero. I’m going to start by saying I think there’s very little chance I’ll be voting for DDL, I engaged with him a lot on day zero and one and came away with a good view of him. But there’s a decent chance I won’t vote at all, which I hate but it’s just my reality in these couple of days. Apologies to host and players. I should have time to catch up during the night phase and hopefully hit the ground running on Th next day.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:28 pm Me: Dang maybe I need to rethink this DDL suspicion, not a lot of pushback on it might mean mafia are content to let his head roll.

Mafia Gods:

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:23 pm Sorry, I’ve had to phone it in this phase (figuratively and literally). I ended up being very busy, not at home for most of the weekend, as some stuff happened. I’m both exhausted and I have to get some work done, so my chances of catching up during the phase are zero. I’m going to start by saying I think there’s very little chance I’ll be voting for DDL, I engaged with him a lot on day zero and one and came away with a good view of him. But there’s a decent chance I won’t vote at all, which I hate but it’s just my reality in these couple of days. Apologies to host and players. I should have time to catch up during the night phase and hopefully hit the ground running on Th next day.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:43 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:28 pm Me: Dang maybe I need to rethink this DDL suspicion, not a lot of pushback on it might mean mafia are content to let his head roll.

Mafia Gods:

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:23 pm Sorry, I’ve had to phone it in this phase (figuratively and literally). I ended up being very busy, not at home for most of the weekend, as some stuff happened. I’m both exhausted and I have to get some work done, so my chances of catching up during the phase are zero. I’m going to start by saying I think there’s very little chance I’ll be voting for DDL, I engaged with him a lot on day zero and one and came away with a good view of him. But there’s a decent chance I won’t vote at all, which I hate but it’s just my reality in these couple of days. Apologies to host and players. I should have time to catch up during the night phase and hopefully hit the ground running on Th next day.

Lol. If DDL is bad I’d suggest this post could be a bus job to frame me. It’s bad.

If there’s new evidence today I haven’t read it. I already posted stuff on day one about why I don’t think he’s bad, this isn’t new. And I sure as hell aren’t suddenly turning up to defend a teammate away from death when I’m bad. That’s just a stupid thing to do. I’d bus away.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:48 pm

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:43 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:28 pm Me: Dang maybe I need to rethink this DDL suspicion, not a lot of pushback on it might mean mafia are content to let his head roll.

Mafia Gods:

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:23 pm Sorry, I’ve had to phone it in this phase (figuratively and literally). I ended up being very busy, not at home for most of the weekend, as some stuff happened. I’m both exhausted and I have to get some work done, so my chances of catching up during the phase are zero. I’m going to start by saying I think there’s very little chance I’ll be voting for DDL, I engaged with him a lot on day zero and one and came away with a good view of him. But there’s a decent chance I won’t vote at all, which I hate but it’s just my reality in these couple of days. Apologies to host and players. I should have time to catch up during the night phase and hopefully hit the ground running on Th next day.

Lol. If DDL is bad I’d suggest this post could be a bus job to frame me. It’s bad.

If there’s new evidence today I haven’t read it. I already posted stuff on day one about why I don’t think he’s bad, this isn’t new. And I sure as hell aren’t suddenly turning up to defend a teammate away from death when I’m bad. That’s just a stupid thing to do. I’d bus away.

"if he's bad I'm being framed"

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:55 pm You just essentially said ‘I considered not voting DDL until golden posted’. That’s the biggest bullshit radar ping I’ve had all game. It’s like a deus ex machina, ‘oh lucky me, something swooped in and justified my story’.

In thinking it through, I still don’t think DDL is bad. I just think you’re looking for an excuse to be on a wagon you don’t believe in.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:55 pm You just essentially said ‘I considered not voting DDL until golden posted’. That’s the biggest bullshit radar ping I’ve had all game. It’s like a deus ex machina, ‘oh lucky me, something swooped in and justified my story’.

In thinking it through, I still don’t think DDL is bad. I just think you’re looking for an excuse to be on a wagon you don’t believe in.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:55 pm You just essentially said ‘I considered not voting DDL until golden posted’. That’s the biggest bullshit radar ping I’ve had all game. It’s like a deus ex machina, ‘oh lucky me, something swooped in and justified my story’.

In thinking it through, I still don’t think DDL is bad. I just think you’re looking for an excuse to be on a wagon you don’t believe in.

Ya boi spent 2 Days bitchin about a wagon he didn't believe in woooooooooooooooo

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:02 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:55 pm You just essentially said ‘I considered not voting DDL until golden posted’. That’s the biggest bullshit radar ping I’ve had all game. It’s like a deus ex machina, ‘oh lucky me, something swooped in and justified my story’.

In thinking it through, I still don’t think DDL is bad. I just think you’re looking for an excuse to be on a wagon you don’t believe in.

Ya boi spent 2 Days bitchin about a wagon he didn't believe in woooooooooooooooo

Well, I’m not going to be reading back today, but there’s nothing that smells more of bullshit than ‘you townread my suspect, therefore you are hisbaddie teamnate’. The logical fallacy approval board just paid you out a bonus.