The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:13 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:09 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:07 am Hally thinks i see Dunya as an easier player to push..

Like how?

because she’s low posting this game idk

Do i look like someone who jumps on low posters?

as a wolf i don’t see why you wouldn’t?

im not really seeing the answer to my question in that iso. i see you sorta explained why you want to change your play style but i don’t see where you said how specifically you’re trying to change it

like what are you trying to do differently in this game compared to usually?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:35 am I'd like Arete to focus on a slot that isn't me for a few posts at least.

yeah! actaully i wanna ask those who have reads on arete, what are they based on or rather how did they have that particular read on them?

kinda dislike people sheeping me on michelle and also tutuu saying im mafia if michelle is town because it makes me feel a lot of pressure to get the read right that i don’t really want

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:05 am

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:03 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:58 am But but @Ash Lael was " Tsukishima " thing on purpose? Hm... Will keep in mind. If it was on purpose, then I suppose you have got some info about me? I'm that case it would be a little bit concerning. Would love to observe you and those who knows about tsukki.

I just like the show and he’s my favourite character.

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALRIGHT. POCKETED. BADLY POCKETED. POKETED FOR LIFE. You are like the coolest person I have ever met while playing mafia!!!!!!!!

@tedxtr lookkkkk!!!!! Seee..... Tsukkii is so great!!!!

Ugh

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:53 am If Poison's mafia, I don't think I'm getting there today unless somebody yells at me and says something like "THIS IS MAFIA POISON BY META, KILL HER NOW!!!"

THIS IS POISON'S MAFIA META. go.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:24 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:05 am

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:03 am

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:58 am But but @Ash Lael was " Tsukishima " thing on purpose? Hm... Will keep in mind. If it was on purpose, then I suppose you have got some info about me? I'm that case it would be a little bit concerning. Would love to observe you and those who knows about tsukki.

I just like the show and he’s my favourite character.

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALRIGHT. POCKETED. BADLY POCKETED. POKETED FOR LIFE. You are like the coolest person I have ever met while playing mafia!!!!!!!!

@tedxtr lookkkkk!!!!! Seee..... Tsukkii is so great!!!!

Ugh

wdym ugh?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:23 am sorry guys, i was feeling pretty lousy and turns out i had some food poisoning and im still a little out of it but im here

i swear I'm not involved in this!

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:46 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:41 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:38 am spicy take: poison is wolfing

Spicy take: you should probably explain your reads, especially if they are considered controversial in the threadstate.

hey hey heyyyy

i don't let people tell me what to do!

Spoiler: show

except in the bedroom. sometimes

spicy takes are hot, spicy and controversial by definition. they aren't meant to be explained.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:49 am

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:39 am I see poison has started playing for real.

So far I like it.

so i got to this post in poison's iso and i saw this ash post and im just like "where is the real play?"

p.s. tutuu is right, you're super cute poison

i had the same question, duh? I don't really play seriously until there's a hugeeee controversy like trump getting a hair cut or we are near mid day1 - EOD1 !

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:53 am Insomnia is a helluva drug

insomnia is a myth. you just don't want to sleep.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:01 am well page 2 on poison's iso, i like ash from her iso more than i like poison. so there you have it.

glad my iso could help you a bit with ash!

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:02 am My biggest concern with Poison is that she has barely offered any reads, but when it came to off-topic discussion / fluff / talking to people for the sake of just talking to people, there is a LOT of that.

I like to talk to people online, they don't bite. i mean, not all of them.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:31 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:27 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:24 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:15 am How good is LC's scumgame?

pretty good. we caught him last game almost immediately but hes had lots of success as scum typically. i lean town on him atm

Then I'm not going to clear him until further notice. I also lean town, but I'm not going any further than that.
Dumb question; do the role colors mean anything regarding player strength? I'm accustomed to the differently-colored players on a forum generally being quite experienced.

no they have nothing to do with player strength. they denote different groups

green like you and me is just a regular user

blue is a game facilitator/mod

cyan is the community team, which is kinda a mod

dark teal is admin

bright red is graphics team (though i believe its just lc)

every other color just means that the person is currently hosting some kind of game

why is nanook pastel purple? wanna steal that color smh

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:39 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:49 am

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:39 am I see poison has started playing for real.

So far I like it.

so i got to this post in poison's iso and i saw this ash post and im just like "where is the real play?"

p.s. tutuu is right, you're super cute poison

i had the same question, duh? I don't really play seriously until there's a hugeeee controversy like trump getting a hair cut or we are near mid day1 - EOD1 !

Oh yeah, I forgot to answer this question.

I was referring to posts like this:

quote="Poison Chan" post_id=670595 time=1602057778 user_id=662]

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:54 am Playing as town would be more fun if you didn't have the "solve the game" burden. It feels like every town death is a punch in the gut, especially if you were on their wagon, or even worse -- if you are the one who started their wagon and kept traction there. When you're mafia, doing that to your partners feels much less problematic, because both of you generally agree to do this in scumchat. Being mafia also means you don't have the "solving the game" burden in most cases.

Having this take might mean I'm sensitive, and that wouldn't be inaccurate. I'm INFP-A (according to 16personalities, and I agree with it), and this type is known for being sensitive, whether they hide it or not.

I don't like to play 3p, because in most cases, they have no reason to care about the game, only about their wincon. I've hardly seen any neutrals who needed to be active participants at all times, except maybe the NK, and I dislike the NK as a concept.

I think Wind would be the most universally useful, depending on my level of control. I could fly, move things around, and more. The possibilities seem endless. Fire is too destructive, and Ice seems more... situational. And more problematic for others no matter how I end up using it.

you sound more like a leader personality in the first para, someone, who would and does get people to listen to them ?

i always, forget my 16peronalities test result, I'll be checking that again later, but thanks for letting me know your personality!!

wind is a nice choice, so basically -

1. you don't like to have a careless attitude towards the game but you also don't want to spend too much effort carrying the "solve the game burden" .
2. you like being mafia.

so, if we are talking about guessing your alignment by your activity we are just wasting time cause you would be active and showing a lot of effort in solving the game as either alignment. cool. it'll be fun!!
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So, okay, it doesn’t spit out an alignment conclusion at the end. But we see some thought displayed here about the *way* to read Vulgard. There’s meaningful consideration about how he would approach the game from either alignment, and even if the conclusion - activity level not AI - is a bit uneventful, I felt like I could see a town thought *process* in there. Definitive? Heck no, no at that stage. But this and a few other posts were enough to make me start feeling positive about poison.

Ugh, sorry for the messed up quote.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:53 am Townystarkprime?
I'm sorry. Get used to terrible puns if you want to interact with me.

"i do see what some people are saying about poison (dunya and vul i think) that she maybe isn’t giving many concrete takes? but i know she absolutely hates being mafia so i find her engagement here to be town indicative. i think she’d come off flatter and post less as scum. not gonna lock it in because concerns are noted but i feel good about her"

This is pretty much how I currently feel as well. Then again, the lack of reads could be because she hates being mafia and attempts to hide the hatred by interacting with people (and potentially pocketing them in the process).

I love how you try to perceive things tbh, although wrong here, but still you take more than a few cases into consideration and you are loud about it. Would love to play more games with you in future, maybe I can pick up a few things from you.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:20 am im not really seeing the answer to my question in that iso. i see you sorta explained why you want to change your play style but i don’t see where you said how specifically you’re trying to change it

Wouldn't be idiotic to share what i want to become as player before knowing i can reach that level? I really don't understand what do you want from me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:20 am im not really seeing the answer to my question in that iso. i see you sorta explained why you want to change your play style but i don’t see where you said how specifically you’re trying to change it

Wouldn't be idiotic to share what i want to become as player before knowing i can reach that level? I really don't understand what do you want from me.

Oh dear.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:13 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:09 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:07 am Hally thinks i see Dunya as an easier player to push..

Like how?

because she’s low posting this game idk

Do i look like someone who jumps on low posters?

as a wolf i don’t see why you wouldn’t?

Is silly.

this game gonna, like, last forever dude. i bet it will still be running in november

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:00 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:20 am im not really seeing the answer to my question in that iso. i see you sorta explained why you want to change your play style but i don’t see where you said how specifically you’re trying to change it

Wouldn't be idiotic to share what i want to become as player before knowing i can reach that level? I really don't understand what do you want from me.

Oh dear.

I so hate ppl jumping in others convos, Ash is more wolfy for that 'oh dear' who is a hidden shade.

Like a wolf who don't have the courage to push for a mislynch

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:56 am Imagine if the only remaining 0 poster is mafia and we kill them before they can post once.

me in some turbo a few weeks ago or a few days ago!

I'm kinda exhausted now. break. thanks.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:07 am I so hate ppl jumping in others convos, Ash is more wolfy for that 'oh dear' who is a hidden shade.

Like a wolf who don't have the courage to push for a mislynch

The “oh dear” is for the “what do you want from me”, which is often a scumtell.

I’m legit sorry about your rand.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:15 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:07 am I so hate ppl jumping in others convos, Ash is more wolfy for that 'oh dear' who is a hidden shade.

Like a wolf who don't have the courage to push for a mislynch

The “oh dear” is for the “what do you want from me”, which is often a scumtell.

I’m legit sorry about your rand.

Evidence?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:34 am

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:15 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:07 am I so hate ppl jumping in others convos, Ash is more wolfy for that 'oh dear' who is a hidden shade.

Like a wolf who don't have the courage to push for a mislynch

The “oh dear” is for the “what do you want from me”, which is often a scumtell.

I’m legit sorry about your rand.

Evidence?

Just something I’ve picked up from spec chat osmosis.

I'm just waiting for the wolves to parachute into my territory and give themselves up like Rudolf Hess.

on page 25, half-assedly reading up

good morning btw

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:23 am sorry guys, i was feeling pretty lousy and turns out i had some food poisoning and im still a little out of it but im here

gth reads without reading the thread, but a few tone-posts from each player here we go

112 - w
Arete - t
Ash Lael - w
DrWilgy - t
Hally - w
Long Con - t
Michelle - w
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - t
Poison Chan - t
tedxtr - w
TonyStarkPrime - t
TripleHaven - t
tutuu - t
Vulgard - t

my poe is
112
ash
hally
michelle
ted

i wanna say my strongest town reads are nanook and longcon tbh. my weakest wolf read is ted, so i will not vote for him until day 3 at least.

the person i think most likely could swing w from my t reads is vulgard for possible tmi, but i will eventually read up (or not) see what he has to offer.

high poster hally in a vacuum should be town, but i felt like she was gaslighting us with questions and content which she doesn't really build from. like they're prods and questions which she doesn't really care about one way or the other.

don't really know much about tsp, except he didn't like one of my posts and i like that reaction. no idea if triplehaven has posted yet, i'll get there.

wilgy im giving a soul town read to.

The bolded is always a weird thing to think about. I think because Dunya expressed it directly here maybe it's more likely to come from town? Level 1 is it means w!dunya because t!dunya gets mad at me for an incorrect read, but I don't think Dunya plays like that.
It's a decent looking poe though. Neither of arete or vulgard. I think scum who's skimming would throw one in.

Also, TR on LC. Spicy.

I'll move my vote for now.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:41 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:38 am spicy take: poison is wolfing

Spicy take: you should probably explain your reads, especially if they are considered controversial in the threadstate.

spicy take: no

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:15 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:07 am I so hate ppl jumping in others convos, Ash is more wolfy for that 'oh dear' who is a hidden shade.

Like a wolf who don't have the courage to push for a mislynch

The “oh dear” is for the “what do you want from me”, which is often a scumtell.

I’m legit sorry about your rand.

Your choice of words is so stiff and wolfy

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:49 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:18 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:09 pm

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:08 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:49 am

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:19 am on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

this feels chainsaw-y.

how?

112 is going after Vulgard for his cases, particularly parts where it's claimed that he's repeated ideas that others have stated. But generally I think this is inaccurate. Vulgard seems to be in some ways the least conventional person in the game, he's playing it differently. Stilted, maybe. But not repetitive. Hypothesis then, there's a common case that Vulgard has picked up on that implicates a partner of 112. 112 seeks to discredit this general case by discrediting Vulgard.
Feels weak tbh but it's something. If like Tutuu is scum I think that'd be a strong association

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:07 am The fact they have barely read anyone in this game outside of my slot is what makes me believe they are out of their depth (or busy). This isn't what they typically do as town. They tend to have reads on everyone in the game by EoD1, and can typically back all of them up one way or another.
They don't have this low number of reads as mafia either, though, which is why I'm not advocating that Arete is mafia for that reason.

Counterpoint. Champs just finished. Arete is allowed to be tired.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:56 am Imagine if the only remaining 0 poster is mafia and we kill them before they can post once.

I already starred this from someone else so I'm starring it here.

It's different here but it's probably just different because I locktowned Vul.

Like w!vul never does that to their teammate and is never so blatantly giddy if not w/w

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:13 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:09 am is there night chat?

hally when r u gonna vote so i can sheep u?

now

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:15 am [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:16 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:13 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:09 am is there night chat?

hally when r u gonna vote so i can sheep u?

now

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

Yeah, ok.

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

wtf

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:52 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:53 am Townystarkprime?
I'm sorry. Get used to terrible puns if you want to interact with me.

"i do see what some people are saying about poison (dunya and vul i think) that she maybe isn’t giving many concrete takes? but i know she absolutely hates being mafia so i find her engagement here to be town indicative. i think she’d come off flatter and post less as scum. not gonna lock it in because concerns are noted but i feel good about her"

This is pretty much how I currently feel as well. Then again, the lack of reads could be because she hates being mafia and attempts to hide the hatred by interacting with people (and potentially pocketing them in the process).

I love how you try to perceive things tbh, although wrong here, but still you take more than a few cases into consideration and you are loud about it. Would love to play more games with you in future, maybe I can pick up a few things from you.

hmm

tony, talk to me.

what do you make of ted?

i know i haven't had too many posts this game, but i feel like ted isn't involved even when he is posting. he drops a thought or two but seems to be hanging out on the outside of the game in a way.

caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:31 am tony, talk to me.

what do you make of ted?

where's linki when I need it?

not much

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 am i know i haven't had too many posts this game, but i feel like ted isn't involved even when he is posting. he drops a thought or two but seems to be hanging out on the outside of the game in a way.

Counterpoint, I almost always feel this way about Ted. Well, this isn't true. I dunno. I seem to recall having a good streak of finding him as town earlier in the year after GoC. He was a wolf in GoC, right

Oh wow that was my 5000th post

agree that nanook is bleeding town.

i had a good read on him last time i played with wolf!nano and like what i see here, so it's good sailing

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:34 am Oh wow that was my 5000th post

Tutuu maybe wolfy is something I'm gonna think about more. I at least feel different than I've ever felt on Tutuu before. Don't think I've played with w!Tutuu, but could it look like this?

That's roughly my read of Dunya as well

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:34 am

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 am i know i haven't had too many posts this game, but i feel like ted isn't involved even when he is posting. he drops a thought or two but seems to be hanging out on the outside of the game in a way.

Counterpoint, I almost always feel this way about Ted. Well, this isn't true. I dunno. I seem to recall having a good streak of finding him as town earlier in the year after GoC. He was a wolf in GoC, right

Yeah, he was a wolf and he tricked me. But I found him in a few games after, then he was a wolf in abdimals and was null all game. I dunno. Maybe to save for later.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:34 am

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 am i know i haven't had too many posts this game, but i feel like ted isn't involved even when he is posting. he drops a thought or two but seems to be hanging out on the outside of the game in a way.

Counterpoint, I almost always feel this way about Ted. Well, this isn't true. I dunno. I seem to recall having a good streak of finding him as town earlier in the year after GoC. He was a wolf in GoC, right

Yeah, he was a wolf and he tricked me. But I found him in a few games after, then he was a wolf in abdimals and was null all game. I dunno. Maybe to save for later.

OH right I wolfed with him in Amdibals