The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:34 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:25 pm How many does it have to be to be salad?

I could yeet SPF, Alison or maybe Mac.

This is ... like completely suboptimal in a level 1 way.

@arogame123 @Boquise you have both capped by +1

The chaos merchant within appreciates this Alison wagon. I think Alison has potential to be the deep wolf of the 3 for sure. But never do the wolves job for them. You have to give her a chance to get night killed lol.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:33 pm I wanna bee the ever best
Like Noah ever was

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:19 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:09 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:04 pm At this point the number of people crying that the Porscha wagon is too easy has exceeded the number of people that actually shrugvoted them. They are being widely defended, directly ("the Porscha wagon is too auto and lazy"... as though you have never seen an auto and lazy wagon hit scum before?) and indirectly ("oh no! let's vote, uh, SPF, or Boq, for unclear reasons!"), and this occurred as a direct response to them being run up. They have not been townie since and nobody has given a concrete reason why they are. I particularly really didn't like Lilypetal randomly declaring Porscha's responses are "town indicative" with zero explanation why when she was repping a pretty strong wolfread on Porscha previously.

Porscha's actual defense against the pressure that has been put on her has been that she is being oppressed by the evil bourgeoisie of "strong players", two of which she specifically called out as not voting her. It was borderline ATE and reeked of being caught for the wrong reasons. It read more like someone venting about cliques postgame than anything. When they do express suspicion that there are 2+ strong wolves in the town they don't seem at all interested in figuring out who those wolves are or voting them despite the fact that they seem to think that town is being run over by them.

I don't know why people are defending this slot or what they find townie about Porscha's reaction to pressure so kindly enlighten me if you think Porscha is town.

the last reaction of porscha is stuff i have seen town do more than scum, so thats why I removed my vote tbh
i agree with you on the pushback on her wagon and the immediate blow-out of votes on me following my push on her tbh

I have a firm belief that ATE is scummy. I know many people do not share this, and I don't have the time or inclination to relitigate it here. I'm just explaining why the whole classism rant struck me as being very wolfy.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:40 pm @Lilypetal why'd you vote Alison

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:40 pm mod note: the post cap won't be strictly enforced so like you can go a bit over but like don't 300 posts today. Just be courtious (the irony I know)

New people of syndicate, your post count can be found under your pfp. If on phone you can go hustler ii and click the replies amount and it shows it.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:19 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

iso'ed Porscha and Jack, Jack had better messages by a long shot
might be something else but I have to iso elsewhere

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:41 pm Well if Aro is allowed to postcap with no repercussions I can too.

We are chopping Falcon today. Final word.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:41 pm Well if Aro is allowed to postcap with no repercussions I can too.

We are chopping Falcon today. Final word.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:08 am Take a fucking stance instead of clowning around.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:11 am Neon's iso is pretty much flufftastic. I know that's shite of me to say but it's true.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:11 am @Neon You seem convinced that there is a wolf in the people who have pushed you but that I specifically am wrong town. Why?

Because people who push me for my approach to the game day 1 especially when I'm more relaxed and memey than normal are almost always town and almost always think they have some amazing solve on me when in fact I'm just being myself.

They give woofs an easy wagon to jump on and put pressure on because like okay someone else started it the reasons look good enough at a base level and it's easy to jump off if needed or to hand wave when I flip town.

Your not the first you won't be the last and it happens in almost every game with people I've never played with before when I'm at my most natural self. Lately I've been kinda not being me and trying to emulate the games of the really good players I respect but I'm shit at it so now I'm in this weird juxtaposition where people who have specced me lately expect me to be like I was in champs or since than and people who know me from before expect me to be goofy anime meme girl when in truth I don't even know who I am anymore so I kinda decided to try to be old me again... cause that's when I had fun in mafia and was like actually kinda good at it.

Anyways point is. You created a wagon that's easy for woofs to use to get a misexe if I don't change my play or to get off of if I do without much suspicion. I don't think a woof starts the wagon I do think at least one jumps on it as it gains traction though.

Mood. I do wanna see more follow up to this, though.

Mac thinks Neon is totes town. SPF thinks Neon looks like a frozen wolf and I tend to think "frozen wolf" isn't a thing that happens fucking D1. But then Neon is like "SPF is my top townie."

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:41 pm Well if Aro is allowed to postcap with no repercussions I can too.

We are chopping Falcon today. Final word.

What did you mean by level one suboptimal?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:46 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:11 am Neon's iso is pretty much flufftastic. I know that's shite of me to say but it's true.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:11 am @Neon You seem convinced that there is a wolf in the people who have pushed you but that I specifically am wrong town. Why?

Because people who push me for my approach to the game day 1 especially when I'm more relaxed and memey than normal are almost always town and almost always think they have some amazing solve on me when in fact I'm just being myself.

They give woofs an easy wagon to jump on and put pressure on because like okay someone else started it the reasons look good enough at a base level and it's easy to jump off if needed or to hand wave when I flip town.

Your not the first you won't be the last and it happens in almost every game with people I've never played with before when I'm at my most natural self. Lately I've been kinda not being me and trying to emulate the games of the really good players I respect but I'm shit at it so now I'm in this weird juxtaposition where people who have specced me lately expect me to be like I was in champs or since than and people who know me from before expect me to be goofy anime meme girl when in truth I don't even know who I am anymore so I kinda decided to try to be old me again... cause that's when I had fun in mafia and was like actually kinda good at it.

Anyways point is. You created a wagon that's easy for woofs to use to get a misexe if I don't change my play or to get off of if I do without much suspicion. I don't think a woof starts the wagon I do think at least one jumps on it as it gains traction though.

Mood. I do wanna see more follow up to this, though.

Mac thinks Neon is totes town. SPF thinks Neon looks like a frozen wolf and I tend to think "frozen wolf" isn't a thing that happens fucking D1. But then Neon is like "SPF is my top townie."

this is a good post

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:48 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

hard agree
there's zero consensus or structure

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:41 pm Well if Aro is allowed to postcap with no repercussions I can too.

We are chopping Falcon today. Final word.

Vote alison you coward

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

???? Why do you feel this way?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:51 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

???? Why do you feel this way?

how don't you?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:50 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:48 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

hard agree
there's zero consensus or structure

Wait really? I feel like we have a decent towncore going through with Mac, Creature, SPF, and I'd like to think me as well.

I've seen Boq and somewhat Lucy thrown around as well as town. Am I missing anything?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:41 pm Well if Aro is allowed to postcap with no repercussions I can too.

We are chopping Falcon today. Final word.

What did you mean by level one suboptimal?

spf mac and Alison are basically near guaranteed to contain the night 1 kill and you want us as your POE

Spf has been townie as fuck.

Alison isn't so townie but is never a good chop on day 1 for transparently obvious reasons I shouldn't need to explain to you.

I'm town and have been townie and am a terrible day 1.

Your reads might be okay but even if they are the idea is completely sub optimal and coming from you pings me way hard because you're too good of a player to think heroing one of us three is optimal for day 1.

There are so many better paths.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:52 pm @MacDougall

i have never played with falcon before

why should i vote there?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

???? Why do you feel this way?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:41 pm Well if Aro is allowed to postcap with no repercussions I can too.

We are chopping Falcon today. Final word.

What did you mean by level one suboptimal?

spf mac and Alison are basically near guaranteed to contain the night 1 kill and you want us as your POE

Spf has been townie as fuck.

Alison isn't so townie but is never a good chop on day 1 for transparently obvious reasons I shouldn't need to explain to you.

I'm town and have been townie and am a terrible day 1.

Your reads might be okay but even if they are the idea is completely sub optimal and coming from you pings me way hard because you're too good of a player to think heroing one of us three is optimal for day 1.

There are so many better paths.

Vote sleep!

Alternative joke: Voting players on D1 is now a personal insult

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:54 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

???? Why do you feel this way?

the communication and the structure of today have been fucking garbage

within the last few hours, boquise and alison have both been leading wagons in serious contention to die today, and the reasons to scumreade both of them have not extended beyond: "i am worried that this person might be mafia" or "i think this person is posting kind of weirdly". even among the players that are being wagoned who are actually scummy, the reasoning is consistently pretty horrible

it's embarrassing to think that i am playing this game with multiple villagers who are OK with killing some of the strongest players in the game who have a high potential of solving the game if theyre town or being nightkilled within the next couple of nights because they "feel off" or because you "don't like the vibes". that's not how you play mafia, that's not how you bring structure to a game, and that's not how you scumhunt. if you think that someone is wolfy then it is your responsibility to dive deeply into their posts and figure out why instead of pushing for objectively anti-town kills because you had a gut feeling

even among the players being wagoned who i could actually see containing a wolf (porscha/jack), i feel like i'm the only person who has actually provided decent reasoning for why either of them could have wolf equity

this is basically how the d1 of every mountainous game throughout this past champs season has played out in the games where the town lost, and everyone needs to collectively get their shit together and kick it into gear if we don't want to get swept by the wolfteam on like d4

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:52 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:50 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:48 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

hard agree
there's zero consensus or structure

Wait really? I feel like we have a decent towncore going through with Mac, Creature, SPF, and I'd like to think me as well.

I've seen Boq and somewhat Lucy thrown around as well as town. Am I missing anything?

Said towncore is being completely ignored in favour of the majority of the poe trying to wagon Alison and the rest of the town ignoring our reads to push Porscha who is arguably out of their scumrange and should never be chopped before Rondo or Falcon at min and probably more.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:52 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:50 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:48 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

hard agree
there's zero consensus or structure

Wait really? I feel like we have a decent towncore going through with Mac, Creature, SPF, and I'd like to think me as well.

I've seen Boq and somewhat Lucy thrown around as well as town. Am I missing anything?

Said towncore is being completely ignored in favour of the majority of the poe trying to wagon Alison and the rest of the town ignoring our reads to push Porscha who is arguably out of their scumrange and should never be chopped before Rondo or Falcon at min and probably more.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:54 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

???? Why do you feel this way?

the communication and the structure of today have been fucking garbage

within the last few hours, boquise and alison have both been leading wagons in serious contention to die today, and the reasons to scumreade both of them have not extended beyond: "i am worried that this person might be mafia" or "i think this person is posting kind of weirdly". even among the players that are being wagoned who are actually scummy, the reasoning is consistently pretty horrible

it's embarrassing to think that i am playing this game with multiple villagers who are OK with killing some of the strongest players in the game who have a high potential of solving the game if theyre town or being nightkilled within the next couple of nights because they "feel off" or because you "don't like the vibes". that's not how you play mafia, that's not how you bring structure to a game, and that's not how you scumhunt. if you think that someone is wolfy then it is your responsibility to dive deeply into their posts and figure out why instead of pushing for objectively anti-town kills because you had a gut feeling

even among the players being wagoned who i could actually see containing a wolf (porscha/jack), i feel like i'm the only person who has actually provided decent reasoning for why either of them could have wolf equity

this is basically how the d1 of every mountainous game throughout this past champs season has played out in the games where the town lost, and everyone needs to collectively get their shit together and kick it into gear if we don't want to get swept by the wolfteam on like d4

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:57 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

We'll prob end up (mis)lynching falcon45ca D1 again.

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:57 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

We'll prob end up (mis)lynching falcon45ca D1 again.

aren't u on Falcon rn tho? I am confused.

I won't be around EoD, so I will likely leave my vote with my towns as I'd rather we have cohesion than not

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:57 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

We'll prob end up (mis)lynching falcon45ca D1 again.

aren't u on Falcon rn tho? I am confused.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:54 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

???? Why do you feel this way?

the communication and the structure of today have been fucking garbage

within the last few hours, boquise and alison have both been leading wagons in serious contention to die today, and the reasons to scumreade both of them have not extended beyond: "i am worried that this person might be mafia" or "i think this person is posting kind of weirdly". even among the players that are being wagoned who are actually scummy, the reasoning is consistently pretty horrible

it's embarrassing to think that i am playing this game with multiple villagers who are OK with killing some of the strongest players in the game who have a high potential of solving the game if theyre town or being nightkilled within the next couple of nights because they "feel off" or because you "don't like the vibes". that's not how you play mafia, that's not how you bring structure to a game, and that's not how you scumhunt. if you think that someone is wolfy then it is your responsibility to dive deeply into their posts and figure out why instead of pushing for objectively anti-town kills because you had a gut feeling

even among the players being wagoned who i could actually see containing a wolf (porscha/jack), i feel like i'm the only person who has actually provided decent reasoning for why either of them could have wolf equity

this is basically how the d1 of every mountainous game throughout this past champs season has played out in the games where the town lost, and everyone needs to collectively get their shit together and kick it into gear if we don't want to get swept by the wolfteam on like d4

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:57 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

We'll prob end up (mis)lynching falcon45ca D1 again.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:19 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:14 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:11 am Isn't Porscha bad at being a wolf? Is she particularly wolfy here?

I dunno feel like the only person who would give Porscha some of my tea this game though.

It's flu season. Do not share drinks.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:02 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:57 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

We'll prob end up (mis)lynching falcon45ca D1 again.

aren't u on Falcon rn tho? I am confused.

I'm kinda sheeping Mac and I also have a feeling falcon45ca is hitting his wolf tell of repeatedly pushing someone as if he had an agenda.

Though lynching falcon45ca D1 gives me deja vu of Halvosen Ridge where he was wolfread by reputable players D1 and ended up flipping town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:21 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:09 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:52 am @Neon Since you are here, do you have any reads currently? I haven't swifted through the pages yet.

People I'd like to drink tea with

SPF
Mac

People I'd share a cookie with

Aro
Seanzie

People I would kick out of my house with no reservations

Creature
Boq
Falcon

This is a bad list.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:02 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:57 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:47 pm i am getting mildly tilted by the gamestate but it's because i am partly grumpy and tired so im trying to hold my tongue

this gamestate is really quite horrible though

We'll prob end up (mis)lynching falcon45ca D1 again.

aren't u on Falcon rn tho? I am confused.

I'm kinda sheeping Mac and I also have a feeling falcon45ca is hitting his wolf tell of repeatedly pushing someone as if he had an agenda.

Though lynching falcon45ca D1 gives me deja vu of Halvosen Ridge where he was wolfread by reputable players D1 and ended up flipping town.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:54 am

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:29 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:30 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:16 am Mac only has 7 posts left. Who will defend me from all the meanie butts when you are gone Mac.

I'll defend you neon. all you had to say was ur doing a different playstyle lol and it makes sense

it just came off like u didnt care but i will pay more attention and I'm sorry for slightly doubting you

This feels pockety.

I wonder if I'm confbiasing Lilypetal wolf because of her playstyle because posts like this feel a lot performative.

most definitely, this is just how i play and carry myself

if i like a player i will show it too much