Re: notorious hedgehog 14 player mafia game wow! game thread [day 2]
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:21 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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./sighSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:20 pmSoz about your rand, dude.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:18 pmhow the unholy hell is the spaghetti logic above clear thoughts? I don't even understand them.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:15 pmI've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pmDefine sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
This is wolf!Wilgy.
I have them but can't parse them. This is what normally happens, but I find a string to at least follow half the time. This time I see the threads and can't pick one out of the group.
love u too bestietutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:07 am i cant sleep i feel like im in limbo right now. might finally be able to fix my sleep schedule if i just endure whole day awake. back to page 29
drwilgy made some better posts. pyxxy still looks scummy to me. seanzie's posts i didnt have an opinion for
if i participated at yesterday's eod i would have voted pyxxy
thoughts on Wilgy's movement if you hold this world view?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 amI think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.
I'm talking about my exchange here with Wilgy, where he doesn't bring up that Neon was also tied until I bring it up.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 amI think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:30 pmSi. Neon wouldn't have been a good yeet yesterday. There's still time yet for them to town spew.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:20 pmWas Neon also having 4 votes a part of your panic calculations?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:17 pmIt was effectively panic.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pmExtract:
"Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft"
everyone else gone by -40min from EODand then le petit _is the NK_ and flips town
this feels odd and/or I'm self-centered
also don't know what to make of Wilgy essentially saving me
I still think you were a fine yeet option, but LPP being on that wagon along with Rondo and Cape being on Bereft made me swap last second.
you feel like this rondo might be powerwolfing rondo? (sorry for back to back just posting all the quotes I picked)Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:15 am[VOTE: Rondo] aubergineRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:10 pmIf its so reasonable why did you shit the bed yesterday going full ATE when I tried to push you over and resolve? More wolf evidence that Lucy is all over the place trying to justify herself
Wilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pmDefine sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pmRight now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.
You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
This is some weak ass shade.pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:12 pmthoughts on Wilgy's movement if you hold this world view?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 amI think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.I'm talking about my exchange here with Wilgy, where he doesn't bring up that Neon was also tied until I bring it up.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 amI think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:30 pmSi. Neon wouldn't have been a good yeet yesterday. There's still time yet for them to town spew.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:20 pmWas Neon also having 4 votes a part of your panic calculations?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:17 pmIt was effectively panic.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pmExtract:
"Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft"
everyone else gone by -40min from EODand then le petit _is the NK_ and flips town
this feels odd and/or I'm self-centered
also don't know what to make of Wilgy essentially saving me
I still think you were a fine yeet option, but LPP being on that wagon along with Rondo and Cape being on Bereft made me swap last second.
Seanzie is more than capable of responding with actual world views based upon other players reads. It was very much the lack of doing so that seems off.pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pmWilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pmDefine sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.
for anyone analyzing this Rondo screenshot in the future, yes the counts are wrong, what I believe has happened is that lucy had just switched from Neon to me, given this post
I think powerwolfing is something different (namely wolves with strong thread positioning harddefending their teammates with weak thread positioning), but yes, I do think Rondo is likely wolfing here.pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:13 pmyou feel like this rondo might be powerwolfing rondo? (sorry for back to back just posting all the quotes I picked)Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:15 am[VOTE: Rondo] aubergineRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:10 pmIf its so reasonable why did you shit the bed yesterday going full ATE when I tried to push you over and resolve? More wolf evidence that Lucy is all over the place trying to justify herself
I'm always a bit off. Doesn't mean I ain't spot on though.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pmSeanzie is more than capable of responding with actual world views based upon other players reads. It was very much the lack of doing so that seems off.pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pmWilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pmDefine sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.
Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.
I think it was Neon and LPP.
That's like 3 replies in the same thread that doesn't evolve the thought at all. There's no solving in this.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:07 pmI'm always a bit off. Doesn't mean I ain't spot on though.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pmSeanzie is more than capable of responding with actual world views based upon other players reads. It was very much the lack of doing so that seems off.pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pmWilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pmDefine sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.
Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.
Don't need to solve when I've got a wolf in the bag.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:34 pmThat's like 3 replies in the same thread that doesn't evolve the thought at all. There's no solving in this.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:07 pmI'm always a bit off. Doesn't mean I ain't spot on though.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pmSeanzie is more than capable of responding with actual world views based upon other players reads. It was very much the lack of doing so that seems off.pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pmWilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm
Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.
Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.
Is the play poke and attempt to confirm AI behavior that way?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:49 pmDon't need to solve when I've got a wolf in the bag.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:34 pmThat's like 3 replies in the same thread that doesn't evolve the thought at all. There's no solving in this.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:07 pmI'm always a bit off. Doesn't mean I ain't spot on though.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pmSeanzie is more than capable of responding with actual world views based upon other players reads. It was very much the lack of doing so that seems off.
Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.
That is quite literally the opposite of what I saidSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:50 amso... I'm right?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:15 amThat's okay you kinda aren't great at reading me soSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:55 amI don't like this.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:29 pmSame as yesterday. I'm extremely paranoid of your beginning to the game.
But I think you deserve space and that you feel like you're being honest and town in general...
The good news is Sean is townDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pmDefine sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pmRight now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.
You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
No don't worry Sean is gonna flip me and their the game.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:23 pm./sighSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:20 pmSoz about your rand, dude.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:18 pmhow the unholy hell is the spaghetti logic above clear thoughts? I don't even understand them.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:15 pmI've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pmProvide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughtsSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pmSo you're woofin', right?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm
Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
This is wolf!Wilgy.
I have them but can't parse them. This is what normally happens, but I find a string to at least follow half the time. This time I see the threads and can't pick one out of the group.
Won't even try to interface with my reads but will instead insist upon a gut read. I think you've landed in the 'I'm fine with yeeting pile' with that, however solving in Syn/Lucy should still likely be prio.
I think if there's a wolf in Syn Lucy it's actually Lucy...I think Lucy could be playing me here but they've felt genuine all through today.