The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:45 pm The only way I’m vagyely ok with option 6 would be if epi picked the three lynches and everyone else agreed to comply.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:45 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:41 pm There are however many town votes. Let’s say for the sake of argument there are 20 town, 8 mafia, 2 third parties. I expect Mac to have more 3p and quite possibly that would be unbalanced towards mafia so it’s more likely we have 18 civs or fewer.

Even if we could know who all civs were, agree and split them evenly - that’s only six on each of three chains with twelve other votes out there. And in reality we can’t control it that much.

On day one second place had four votes. FOUR!

The reason the town has an advantage in a lynch is they have strength in numbers. You are diluting this down to six civs per lynch. That’s bad odds and bad statistics to suggest otherwise!

If you are mafia, do you like lynches or no lynches?

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:47 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:45 pm The only way I’m vagyely ok with option 6 would be if epi picked the three lynches and everyone else agreed to comply.

At this stage, you'd be one of my picks, so I doubt you'd be okay with option six.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:47 pm There are two mafia factions, correct? How do you not spring for three lynches against them?

Golden wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:49 pm

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:47 pm There are two mafia factions, correct? How do you not spring for three lynches against them?

If the top lynch is against them, it will be anyway. I’d bet Steven Tyler’s boob that two and three will both be town. Those are the easy ones to manipulate.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:56 pm I will resume my ratings.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:02 pm @wolbre04, @speedchuck, and @Spacedaisy all voted for #6 without saying why or saying anything at all. given the amount of talking-out-loud I did upon deciding on it, I find their votes pretty dang suspicious.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 8:15 pm Oh, well, hello everyone. I'm Charlie Blackmon. Center-fielder for the Colorado Rockies.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 8:09 pm The thread has requested that I mod-kill Epignosis.

But I can't.

Epignosis was lynched but he did not die. He is now a tree stump. He is Charlie Blackmon. He cannot vote, he cannot be lynched, he cannot be targeted by night actions and he has no night actions. He's a civilian tree stump.

Aaaaaaand nobody else is dead. It's now night 1. Night lasts 24 hours. Please get your night actions in asap. I WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING CHANGES. THERE ARE TOO MANY OF YOU TO FUCK AROUND WITH.

Thread is unlocked.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 8:09 pm The thread has requested that I mod-kill Epignosis.

But I can't.

Epignosis was lynched but he did not die. He is now a tree stump. He is Charlie Blackmon. He cannot vote, he cannot be lynched, he cannot be targeted by night actions and he has no night actions. He's a civilian tree stump.

Aaaaaaand nobody else is dead. It's now night 1. Night lasts 24 hours. Please get your night actions in asap. I WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING CHANGES. THERE ARE TOO MANY OF YOU TO FUCK AROUND WITH.

Thread is unlocked.

epi why did you want this

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:15 pm

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:11 pm But this kid in the dugout kept saying how lynches keep mafia in check. He said, "Maybe instead pretend you got three lynches in a row with no Night kills in between. How would that feel?"

Dang. That does sound pretty good, Charlie. But I'm also not confident that we have enough to draw on to make an informed decision tomorrow, let alone 3.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 9:25 pm Mmm okay Jay's right. We're bound to mislynch people early anyway but with 3 top suspects getting lynched at least one of them will definitely be bad and in any case they will give us a ton of info to work with. I'm in support of #6 and voting accordingly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:05 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:15 pm

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:11 pm But this kid in the dugout kept saying how lynches keep mafia in check. He said, "Maybe instead pretend you got three lynches in a row with no Night kills in between. How would that feel?"

Dang. That does sound pretty good, Charlie. But I'm also not confident that we have enough to draw on to make an informed decision tomorrow, let alone 3.

You aren’t making 3 anyway. You get 1 vote.

Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:17 pm Guys, I'm a baseball player. I don't understand what you do.

If you could have three Day phases in a row, would you take them? If not, why not?

Golden wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 9:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 9:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 9:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 8:29 pm #6 is extremely pro-civilian. Vote it now!

Seems extremely pro-mafia to me.

I thought this at first, but then I thought about it and Jay is definitely right. Think about it. We'd most likely end up lynching the same people within the next couple days, and if they end up being civ, then that sucks but it sucks more if we waste three days doing it. Better to get that over with early and learn from it, and odds are we'll lynch someone bad and have much better direction going forward.

I strongly disagree.

The town will control the top lynch. It won’t be at all difficult for the mafia to control the second and third. The idea that you just march on and lynch those people anyway is demonstrably false, often second place in an early lynch survives the whole game. I cannot overstate how strongly this option favours mafia.

What’s more generally speaking speeding up the rate of death in any given fashion is considered not to alter balance so for jay to make this claim is HIGHLY suspect.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:02 pm @wolbre04, @speedchuck, and @Spacedaisy all voted for #6 without saying why or saying anything at all. given the amount of talking-out-loud I did upon deciding on it, I find their votes pretty dang suspicious.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:36 pm At this juncture this game has more posts than Turf Wars and Talking Heads combined had AT THE CONCLUSION OF NIGHT 1.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:09 pm Quin and Jack, why are your votes where they are?

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:16 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:09 pm Quin and Jack, why are your votes where they are?

Because I put it there.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:17 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:16 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:09 pm Quin and Jack, why are your votes where they are?

Because I put it there.

Oh, ok, thanks.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:02 pmAllow me to join him, Kyle. I need my beetroot.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:20 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:02 pmAllow me to join him, Kyle. I need my beetroot.

if beetroot turns you into a stump like epignosis then im not sending you any :\ is that what it does?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:09 pm Quin and Jack, why are your votes where they are?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:22 pm now epignosis is forcing me to learn baseball terminology

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:21 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:20 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 11:02 pmAllow me to join him, Kyle. I need my beetroot.

if beetroot turns you into a stump like epignosis then im not sending you any :\ is that what it does?

It is but one part of the process. But as per the rules I have laid out, you must provide me with beetroot.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 3:17 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 10:18 am

Spoiler: show

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 2:26 pm I wonder how Epignosis would feel if we straight up lynched him?

Dear Diary,

Last night went well. Even though I was only successful once, it was a success that had people scrambling for a keepsake, and it was enough to buy us some much needed insurance at a critical point. Hopefully we keep the momentum going today.

I've been meaning to write about this, but I've been so busy here in San Francisco. People have asked me what I think about DJ being in the lead for a time before he went down, and of course I smile and give them the platitudes I'm expected to give, that it was a group decision and what have you. The truth is, it wasn't, and I don't think things went as well during that shift.

The thing is, I believe in sitting back and letting everyone have their say before I jump in with my perspective. The problem with that is people tend to get so worked up in the debate that they don't listen to what I have to say, and I end up being an afterthought. It's frustrating, but I guess I'm not very assertive and tend to goof off and not be taken seriously. What can I say? I guess I'm on like a third-grade personality level. What I should have said was- and I'm going to underline this for emphasis- I should be in the lead today.

I hope this isn't coming across as prideful, but we're just a much more effective unit when I'm in the lead at the start. This is not to say anything against DJ- I love him. He's great. I hope he recovers soon. But I should be in the lead. Good things happen.

Still windy in San Francisco.

XOXO
Charlie

I've seen Epi hide behind his role before. If he doesn't begin to give good content, he will be on my lynch list.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 10:20 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 10:05 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 7:32 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 7:28 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu May 17, 2018 7:09 pm I am not reading 12 pages of Day 0. WTF people.

this is so familiar.... when did you say this before. what game was it

she said something similar in MK.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:59 pm What?! You are on page 4?! Umm......This is why I don't play big games, Epi. I will see you all when we are down to about 12 players and one of you can catch me up.

I knew MK was going to be big. I think Epi lied to me about this one not being big. It's big. Honestly, I don't have time to pay attention. He just says, "Hey, there is a game in sign-ups you should sign up for." I say, "Oh, what is it?" He explains and I sign up. That's how it goes. I thought this one was supposed to be smaller. Oops.

It's a Job, when have Jobs ever been small tbh?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 4:41 am and i still think eloh is bad. if scotty is going to lynch non-contributors, i'd like to see a lynch eloh movement too cos she self-admits she won't read the thread. she's done this several times as a baddie and while i love eloh like the stars love the moon, i don't wanna be outplayed by a lurky eloh who makes the same self-justification of not knowing what's happening and that we post too much and she can't keep up.