Re: Mega Man Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:36 am
Also this is too much for WIFOM IMO. Jack called to this. It has been ignored.
Also this is too much for WIFOM IMO. Jack called to this. It has been ignored.
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:36 am Marmot's still sketchier tho, on account of his offwagon sprityo vote that quickly turned into an on-wagon Luna vote.
Nt much else discussion of Marmot other than these. People flopping on Sloonei, Sprit, and Bullzeye. Then...
This happens. It is the main suspicion on Marmot, put into better terms. This is the point that got DH on the Marmot train, though he needed the 'bus Luna' bit clarified by the timing of Marmot's vote.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:58 am [VOTE: I am voting for Marmot cause he’s probably bad. Like worst excuse to turn away from Luna (and Sloonei?) by somehow painting Sloonei and Sprityo as teammates. Then switched to bus Luna iirc. Pretty dang sketch.] aubergine
Would be hilarious if Mafia had a busdriver or a piercing kill thospeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:36 amAlso this is too much for WIFOM IMO. Jack called to this. It has been ignored.
pls do
Also I just realized he left me out of that post, even though I was on the Luna bandwagon and had a few noteworthy comments surrounding it. idk what that means exactly, it's just interesting that I'm the only person on that 9-vote wagon that KNess didn't talk about at all. Maybe it's tough for baddies to give reads on me so he just... forgot to, idk idk.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:31 amThis post with some hindsight makes Marmot/Luna/KNess look compatible to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:24 amWhy?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:23 amRight now, at this precise moment in time, I'd prefer to lynch him over Jack or DHspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am @Dyslexicon @Turnip Head
Please expound on your K-ness votes if you really want him lynched.
I appreciate that now that it's coming down to the wire, you're attempting to be more helpful than before, but I can't help but laugh at the implication here. I've already explained why I'm voting for you, and it has nothing to do with Jack's vote. This is all on you and would have looked better to me if you at least tried to own it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:41 am Jack is voting for me because I suspect Knees
Knees is voting for me because Jack is
Nova is voting for me because Jack is
Speed is voting for me to prove he's not on a team
OK NVM Earlier when I said it was hard for me to understand how you guys could be so good at mislynches, I get it now.
Own whatK-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:58 amI appreciate that now that it's coming down to the wire, you're attempting to be more helpful than before, but I can't help but laugh at the implication here. I've already explained why I'm voting for you, and it has nothing to do with Jack's vote. This is all on you and would have looked better to me if you at least tried to own it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:41 am Jack is voting for me because I suspect Knees
Knees is voting for me because Jack is
Nova is voting for me because Jack is
Speed is voting for me to prove he's not on a team
OK NVM Earlier when I said it was hard for me to understand how you guys could be so good at mislynches, I get it now.
The reasons why I'm voting for you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:00 pmOwn whatK-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:58 amI appreciate that now that it's coming down to the wire, you're attempting to be more helpful than before, but I can't help but laugh at the implication here. I've already explained why I'm voting for you, and it has nothing to do with Jack's vote. This is all on you and would have looked better to me if you at least tried to own it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:41 am Jack is voting for me because I suspect Knees
Knees is voting for me because Jack is
Nova is voting for me because Jack is
Speed is voting for me to prove he's not on a team
OK NVM Earlier when I said it was hard for me to understand how you guys could be so good at mislynches, I get it now.
Which...are.....K-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:15 pmThe reasons why I'm voting for you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:00 pmOwn whatK-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:58 amI appreciate that now that it's coming down to the wire, you're attempting to be more helpful than before, but I can't help but laugh at the implication here. I've already explained why I'm voting for you, and it has nothing to do with Jack's vote. This is all on you and would have looked better to me if you at least tried to own it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:41 am Jack is voting for me because I suspect Knees
Knees is voting for me because Jack is
Nova is voting for me because Jack is
Speed is voting for me to prove he's not on a team
OK NVM Earlier when I said it was hard for me to understand how you guys could be so good at mislynches, I get it now.
But what is the likelihood that he is exploiting it right now?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:16 amOK but how alibis work is you set them up before you need them.
And also, Not entirely out of the question that he didn't pick or execute the kills himself? IDK man, thats a lot of trust to put into meta. Trust that a smart player would exploit at some point.
Knees flipping bad bolsters my theory that he and Jack are teammates and Knees hasn't given me any reason to think he's civ, soo...... Sure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:22 pmBut what is the likelihood that he is exploiting it right now?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:16 amOK but how alibis work is you set them up before you need them.
And also, Not entirely out of the question that he didn't pick or execute the kills himself? IDK man, thats a lot of trust to put into meta. Trust that a smart player would exploit at some point.
Do you have any interest in any other lynch than Jack?
Jack and Knees have such a hard on for me being slippery and avoiding answering questions but then I get shit like this so its like what am I even doing here famK-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:15 pmThe reasons why I'm voting for you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:00 pmOwn whatK-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:58 amI appreciate that now that it's coming down to the wire, you're attempting to be more helpful than before, but I can't help but laugh at the implication here. I've already explained why I'm voting for you, and it has nothing to do with Jack's vote. This is all on you and would have looked better to me if you at least tried to own it.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:41 am Jack is voting for me because I suspect Knees
Knees is voting for me because Jack is
Nova is voting for me because Jack is
Speed is voting for me to prove he's not on a team
OK NVM Earlier when I said it was hard for me to understand how you guys could be so good at mislynches, I get it now.
I don't know. Sorry.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am @Dyslexicon @Turnip Head
Please expound on your K-ness votes if you really want him lynched.
Can you unpack why you think this as opposed to Kness being town or 3P?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:56 amAlso I just realized he left me out of that post, even though I was on the Luna bandwagon and had a few noteworthy comments surrounding it. idk what that means exactly, it's just interesting that I'm the only person on that 9-vote wagon that KNess didn't talk about at all. Maybe it's tough for baddies to give reads on me so he just... forgot to, idk idk.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:31 amThis post with some hindsight makes Marmot/Luna/KNess look compatible to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:24 amWhy?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:23 amRight now, at this precise moment in time, I'd prefer to lynch him over Jack or DHspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am @Dyslexicon @Turnip Head
Please expound on your K-ness votes if you really want him lynched.
Anyways I don't think it's too harsh to say that these could be read as the perspective of a mafia member who had just lost a teammate.
Okay but if you know you’re town and if I’m town, what does this mean for Kness?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:57 am Looking back, Jack and I both gave KNess a bit of a hard time during Night 3 but slid into attacking Marmot for Day 4
Specifically because KNess has called attention to the fact that he doesn't find it easy to make reads like we do here, and then he ends up having all the right reads. He's either better at the game than he thinks he is or he is playing with more information than he'd like to.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:28 pmCan you unpack why you think this as opposed to Kness being town or 3P?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:56 amAlso I just realized he left me out of that post, even though I was on the Luna bandwagon and had a few noteworthy comments surrounding it. idk what that means exactly, it's just interesting that I'm the only person on that 9-vote wagon that KNess didn't talk about at all. Maybe it's tough for baddies to give reads on me so he just... forgot to, idk idk.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:31 amThis post with some hindsight makes Marmot/Luna/KNess look compatible to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:24 amWhy?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:23 amRight now, at this precise moment in time, I'd prefer to lynch him over Jack or DHspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 am @Dyslexicon @Turnip Head
Please expound on your K-ness votes if you really want him lynched.
Anyways I don't think it's too harsh to say that these could be read as the perspective of a mafia member who had just lost a teammate.
There’s confidence in the townieness of townies and alive players. There’s shade at Marmot and Kyle. There’s not really anything I see tying Kness to Luna in there and not a strong tie to Marmot considering Kness has had similar “bad feeling” reads on other players.
I don't really get your question, I'm voting for the guy. My point is I kinda forgot I suspected him cuz I had a bigger fish to fry at the timeJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:30 pmOkay but if you know you’re town and if I’m town, what does this mean for Kness?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:57 am Looking back, Jack and I both gave KNess a bit of a hard time during Night 3 but slid into attacking Marmot for Day 4
You hopping on the KNess Express before you go?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:00 pm I'm not going to be here at EOD. Just so you know.
Kylemii is the only townread I have that I cannot substantiate.
I think that DharmaHelper may have slipped here. Maybe Cut Man did save Marmot from lynch. But he can only self-target! But Marmot was Magnet Man. With Cut Man and Magnet Man on a baddie team together, Marmot could Magnetize Cut Man's ability.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:17 amGemini Man, yes.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:16 amIt was Gemini man, wasn't it? Cut man can only self-target. (Unless I misread the OP)DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:11 am speedchuck When you say Jack was one of the main drivers behind a marmot lynch do you mean the one that Cut Man saved Marmot from?
Jack's push on Marmot is a good thing to look at, though. I'll refresh myself on it.
Cut Man
Rolling Cutter – Two different Nights, you may activate Rolling Cutter, and all votes against you the next Day will be cut in half.
Gemini Man didn't save Marmot in the sense that DH was saying it. Gemini Man tied the lynch up, ostensibly, and gave Marmot a 50%(?) chance of survival. That's not the implication I get from "When you say Jack was one of the main drivers behind a marmot lynch do you mean the one that Cut Man saved Marmot from?" - THAT feels more like an accusation that Jack didn't need to fear Marmot's lynch because he knew half-votes.Magnet Man
Magnet Missile – Your magnetic weaponry enables you to draw your target’s ability to yourself. You will experience all effects of the ability used on you, but if you draw any kill to yourself, your magnetic shield will protect you from destruction.
I've got like 5 hours before I go mate. So maybe.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:01 pmYou hopping on the KNess Express before you go?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:00 pm I'm not going to be here at EOD. Just so you know.
Kylemii is the only townread I have that I cannot substantiate.
When else would Gemini man be used? When? What other time is worth it?
It's not even aligned with the lynches. Charge man has had his role revealed on lynch, but not in the OP. (could be a host overlook)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pm Is there a pattern for when roles are appearing on the front page?
Seesprityo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:33 am Ready for another wild guess? Marmot is cutman and used his power night 3 in anticipation of day4, halved his votes from 5 to 3. Gemini man, his teammate votes simon with him to ensure that he isn’t lynched. His other teammate is now giving him info on the imprisoner to try and fake us out.
Alternatively, Gemini man wanted a laugh and voted simon to tie it up, marmot who is again cutman in this scenario already was clear by the time he and GM voted simon. But it was secured st that point.
In either case marmot looks bad. I want to bet he used his cut power again today, so he actually only had 3 votes on him right now.
I have reason to believe this is not the case.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:30 pmIt's not even aligned with the lynches. Charge man has had his role revealed on lynch, but not in the OP. (could be a host overlook)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pm Is there a pattern for when roles are appearing on the front page?
What if roles appear once they've been fully used?
People have lives, but it shouldn't matter in this case that I didn't immediately answer your question since I've been stating the reason why I'm voting for you several times already. It's based on the way you behaved when you subbed in. Is that how you normally play? I don't know, and I don't care. It wasn't helpful in any way that I perceive, and the fact you keep asking me my reasons is just making my feeling all the more right.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:37 pm Cool how Knees dropped in here to poke me around for "finally" taking the game seriously, avoided answering why he finds me suspicious, and then left.
Very cool.
If Kness is lynched and flips town, it’ll be bad for you, Chuckles.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 pmThey've got all the right friends in all the wrong places
So yeah, they're going down
They've got all the right reads in all the right faces
So yeah, they're going down
[VOTE: K-ness] aubergine
Okay thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:41 pmI have reason to believe this is not the case.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:30 pmIt's not even aligned with the lynches. Charge man has had his role revealed on lynch, but not in the OP. (could be a host overlook)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pm Is there a pattern for when roles are appearing on the front page?
What if roles appear once they've been fully used?
I'm over the Meow stuff why do you guys keep bringing it up lolK-Ness wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:43 pmPeople have lives, but it shouldn't matter in this case that I didn't immediately answer your question since I've been stating the reason why I'm voting for you several times already. It's based on the way you behaved when you subbed in. Is that how you normally play? I don't know, and I don't care. It wasn't helpful in any way that I perceive, and the fact you keep asking me my reasons is just making my feeling all the more right.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:37 pm Cool how Knees dropped in here to poke me around for "finally" taking the game seriously, avoided answering why he finds me suspicious, and then left.
Very cool.
To reiterate, I am voting for you because when you started playing, all you did was bad mouth the plays (which I agree Day 1 was a cluster because of the Elohcin lynch) that had occurred and then mouthed about the player base. You offered nothing constructive. Adding in the stupid focus on the "Meow" debacle, a non-issue you somehow still haven't gotten over, combined with the questioning on Marmot, I don't think you have the town's best interest at heart.
If I'm lynched, I will flip town. I only hope in that event my death illuminates some very fine points about the remaining mafia in this game.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:43 pmIf Kness is lynched and flips town, it’ll be bad for you, Chuckles.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 pmThey've got all the right friends in all the wrong places
So yeah, they're going down
They've got all the right reads in all the right faces
So yeah, they're going down
[VOTE: K-ness] aubergine
Like a rubber band is attached to it, you just can’t seem to put your vote where it should be for very long.
I suspect you. I’m just voting a player I suspect more.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:44 pmOkay thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:41 pmI have reason to believe this is not the case.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:30 pmIt's not even aligned with the lynches. Charge man has had his role revealed on lynch, but not in the OP. (could be a host overlook)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:27 pm Is there a pattern for when roles are appearing on the front page?
What if roles appear once they've been fully used?
linki: if you're going to suspect me, get it over with Jack. That goes for TH and DH and all you other clods.
You'vespeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 pmThey've got all the right friends in all the wrong places
So yeah, they're going down
They've got all the right reads in all the right faces
So yeah, they're going down
[VOTE: K-ness] aubergine
Where should my vote be?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:43 pmIf Kness is lynched and flips town, it’ll be bad for you, Chuckles.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 pmThey've got all the right friends in all the wrong places
So yeah, they're going down
They've got all the right reads in all the right faces
So yeah, they're going down
[VOTE: K-ness] aubergine
Like a rubber band is attached to it, you just can’t seem to put your vote where it should be for very long.
On DH.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:50 pmWhere should my vote be?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:43 pmIf Kness is lynched and flips town, it’ll be bad for you, Chuckles.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 pmThey've got all the right friends in all the wrong places
So yeah, they're going down
They've got all the right reads in all the right faces
So yeah, they're going down
[VOTE: K-ness] aubergine
Like a rubber band is attached to it, you just can’t seem to put your vote where it should be for very long.