Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I personally locked you town on day twoTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:15 pm The fact that nutella can’t lock me in as town from d1 is a concern
I was first on the mana wagon your entire argument is now bunkMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:42 am Okay so poop went from town reading T&T and BT (which is a huge yikes on it's own), to then voting T&T when it looked like they were doomed, then to switching to Mana when it looked like the Mana wagon could go over (which it would of till BT and TR switched to T&T). So basically if T&T is scum it's always Poop. It COULD be BT or TR if T&T scum, but it's less likely because the only reason to do this is knowing the D1 kill will be janitored and prefering the janitor flip over a naked scum flip which is possible. Of the two, BT is more likely because BT in a sense could be seen as voting to "save" so that vote was kinda forced, and for all we know janitor only worked on T&T and not BT.
Poop then preceeded to be perfectly wrong the next day in their reads. That's impressive, but not in light of them almost voting to save scum D1.
Poop is just scum y'all. you gotta vote'em guise, you just gottaaaaa
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you are sheeping my reads while pushing me. you're outed just lolcat.Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:59 am Poe solve
It's not AkeHaze cuz nutella wouldn't x roxy d1, they were mech'd n1, and alison would always carry the nk here
it's not Toopy and boop because weird ass early game mech things
It's not Julinook cuz they protected AH
It's not both BT and TR because end of day one (slightly less likely to be TR if T&T is scum)
that leaves
Poop, the suspiciously Ineffective body guard
either BT or TR (in that order for reasons mentioned above)
and TPIC, who's claim will hopefully kick them out of POE
Does poop have town/scum equity with any of these players?
where is the decent point?TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:09 amYou have a decent point on Poop, but imo inconsistency is more of a townie look. Idk what to say to you because I think they're both villagers from posts alone.Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:01 amokay, read my recent post, and say this again with your chest, so I know if I need to defend myself actively here or notTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:54 amExcept for me thinking that you're a wolf, and still maybe do as wellMana wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:24 pmtheir read of the game has been consistently closest to mine all game. I don't see a baddie angle for their actions, and they seem removed from a lot of the easy pushes of the game
more sheeping of my solve ....Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:44 amas a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:37 amSo your PoE is:Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:27 amTone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 9:24 am hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?
@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?
Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC
What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.
All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.
well considering he made it up post read and is using my own solved in his case I am treating him as an outed wolf akshallyTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 12:34 pm@Mac does this change your "no reasoning" read on this slotMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 8:42 am Okay so poop went from town reading T&T and BT (which is a huge yikes on it's own), to then voting T&T when it looked like they were doomed, then to switching to Mana when it looked like the Mana wagon could go over (which it would of till BT and TR switched to T&T). So basically if T&T is scum it's always Poop. It COULD be BT or TR if T&T scum, but it's less likely because the only reason to do this is knowing the D1 kill will be janitored and prefering the janitor flip over a naked scum flip which is possible. Of the two, BT is more likely because BT in a sense could be seen as voting to "save" so that vote was kinda forced, and for all we know janitor only worked on T&T and not BT.
Poop then preceeded to be perfectly wrong the next day in their reads. That's impressive, but not in light of them almost voting to save scum D1.
Poop is just scum y'all. you gotta vote'em guise, you just gottaaaaa
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I don't think they're being villagery. TSP has been piloting mostly and is well within his range.trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:17 pm ehhh tspic's posts are villagery today though, including how their read on two and through and toopy and binoo being different alignments. i don't know what to make of this.
also the fact that bottom text did not receive feedback on if their action was blocked is noted, but i don't really know how those types of mechanics work on the syndicate. in my experience, you're only know if you're blocked if you have an action that gives you feedback.
last to claim is always a wolf is a read that almost never fails btwtrans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:42 pm a village roleblocker and a village jailkeeper both existing in a 13er?
mist said that she thinks this is unlikely to be v/v and i'm inclined to agree
i wonder if a wolf would just claim something else though... idk.
why are you the way that you are?Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:47 pm Ok so guys.
If there is 3 Mafia alive, Mana or Poop HAVE to be Mafia or Mafia would have already hammered.
BT and Poop are voting Mana.
BT is Lock Town leaving 2 players Poop/Mana.
@Julinook
@Akemi Hazelnut
@trans rights
@TonyStarkPlaysItCool
@Bottom Text
ONlY VOTE BETWEEN MANA AND POOP TODAY PLEASE!
this reads like copypastaMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:51 pm Can we please stop vaguely pointing at Mana? The best person to chop today is Poop, period, I have laid out the arguments, and they're good. Either actually push me or fall in line nerds, i can't work with this wishy washy "we should probably end on mana, i think hmmmm...." bull
im gonna just give you a day pass for this aloneTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:53 pm Gav your mech is terrible for an increasingly large number of reasons.
I'll be voting mana anywayToopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:54 pm2 Town votes a TownTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:52 pm actually no, majority is 5. no one is in hammer range.
THAT’S FUCKIN 2 VOTES.
IN A 3 MAFIA WORLD SCUM CAN ALL VOTE THE TOWN AND WIN THE GAME!
-Toopy
So now you're speaking in absolutes. Suddenly you're sure about things. Agenda plus plus.Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:01 pmit just doesn't feel like there's anything coherent around me beside vague feelings relating back to d1. My reads are immaculate, the reads on me aren't being given in thread and it's frustrating. Both times Poop voted me were bs. First time was because his teammate T&T was about to get chopped, and the second was because they "Don't want to read lol". I'm just more town than poop in every way. Feel free to check the receipts there too!!Bottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:54 pmi meanMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:51 pm Can we please stop vaguely pointing at Mana? The best person to chop today is Poop, period, I have laid out the arguments, and they're good. Either actually push me or fall in line nerds, i can't work with this wishy washy "we should probably end on mana, i think hmmmm...." bull
both heads of our hydra think you're a wolf! thats one of esooas only reads!
im unvoting because of maj reasons, in case im wrong
if you want to shade me then do it when it makes sense please :P
And when Dana show up to thread it's GG Mana's town anyways, so let's just skip to the part where i'm not on the chopping block.
I do want more Juliets posting yesTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:13 pm I think Juliets feels rather persona non grata a la Dana which is probably bad
ah okJulinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:16 pmYeah she had to step back from the game, I said as much yesterdayTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:13 pm I think Juliets feels rather persona non grata a la Dana which is probably bad
that was my solve at the start of the day just for the recordTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:28 pm Lol im back to thinking T&T might be town, and the wolves are exactly TR/mana/T&B
posts are a mix of exceedingly townie and scummytrans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:37 pm interested in seeing what mac thinks of tspic's current posts. i might sideline what i think about that slot until then.
ok i think I can clear you nowtrans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:44 pm terrible read BUT
if two and through/bottom text/tspic are all wolves then i've played way too well this game, and i'm horrible at villaging
maybe this is a stupid reason to doubt myself but it's still causing me to think i'm being snowed
watcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
did we ever find out how we ended up blocked n1? did BT share their X target?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:56 pmwatcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
I was fairly clear I'm flying solo nowMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:47 pmI do want more Juliets posting yesTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:13 pm I think Juliets feels rather persona non grata a la Dana which is probably bad
and its a dope readtrans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:27 pmstill think akemi is a villager. the way they came to this read is pretty natural.Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:39 pm The good news is that I now believe Mana/BT can't be wolves together.
So either one of them is scum with TSPIC or I am being snowed by one of my townreads.
Nvm you found itMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:47 pmah okJulinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:16 pmYeah she had to step back from the game, I said as much yesterdayTonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:13 pm I think Juliets feels rather persona non grata a la Dana which is probably bad
SighsMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:58 pmdid we ever find out how we ended up blocked n1? did BT share their X target?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:56 pmwatcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
mehBottom Text wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:08 pm watcher is like
definitely more commonly a mafia role
it being allegedly one shot is the only reason its not super wolfy by itself
town tracker+town watcher is a thing im considering just because its funny, tbh. it's the reason i guessed akemi as a tracker
would we not have seen that you visited AH then?Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:01 pmSighsMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:58 pmdid we ever find out how we ended up blocked n1? did BT share their X target?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:56 pmwatcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
I JKed AH
You targeted AH
You got no result because I JKed AH
No they really shouldn't. One shot vig is a shit role that should never shoot n1.Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 pm What if TSPIC is the mafia roleblocker and blocked Walrus to stop the vig shot from going off
One-shot vigs should always fire N1. The only claims in the room that would stop a shot cold are nook and TSPIC.
Either Walrus holstered (which makes no sense), they shot me (which also makes no sense), or TSPIC blocked them and claimed holstered.
No? Why would you? I'm a JKMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pmwould we not have seen that you visited AH then?Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:01 pmSighsMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:58 pmdid we ever find out how we ended up blocked n1? did BT share their X target?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:56 pmwatcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
I JKed AH
You targeted AH
You got no result because I JKed AH
Flipped town timsPoop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pmUnless the Mafia is literally exactly who they threatened to shoot and I forget who that was
ok maybe I dont fully understand the role then... to the wiki I goJulinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pmNo? Why would you? I'm a JKMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pmwould we not have seen that you visited AH then?Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:01 pmSighsMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:58 pmdid we ever find out how we ended up blocked n1? did BT share their X target?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:56 pmwatcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
I JKed AH
You targeted AH
You got no result because I JKed AH
Hmmm I dunno actually I think watcher is supposed to trump jk in most instances?Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pmNo? Why would you? I'm a JKMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pmwould we not have seen that you visited AH then?Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:01 pmSighsMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:58 pmdid we ever find out how we ended up blocked n1? did BT share their X target?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:56 pmwatcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
I JKed AH
You targeted AH
You got no result because I JKed AH
Given that tims is flipped town i cannot believe a mafia team paying enough attention to know walrus was a vig woild give a single shit about them shooting
NoPoop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:05 pmHmmm I dunno actually I think watcher is supposed to trump jk in most instances?Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pmNo? Why would you? I'm a JKMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pmwould we not have seen that you visited AH then?Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:01 pmSighsMana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:58 pmdid we ever find out how we ended up blocked n1? did BT share their X target?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:56 pmwatcher isn't a fake claim mafia come up with often but if the other wolf is a fake roleblocker or jailkeeper well all bets are off innit
I JKed AH
You targeted AH
You got no result because I JKed AH
Then the Mafia definitely aren't roleblocking Walrus should they have been all that compelled to even kill them.
I don't disagree one shot vig is a shit role but dying with town KP in the holster makes no sense to me.Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pmNo they really shouldn't. One shot vig is a shit role that should never shoot n1.Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 pm What if TSPIC is the mafia roleblocker and blocked Walrus to stop the vig shot from going off
One-shot vigs should always fire N1. The only claims in the room that would stop a shot cold are nook and TSPIC.
Either Walrus holstered (which makes no sense), they shot me (which also makes no sense), or TSPIC blocked them and claimed holstered.
Oh this is a good point though. If Walrus was going to shoot N1 they would be shooting Tim so it doesn't make sense for mafia to care about them.
Unless you have like a hard vigi claim or some sort of outed mafia you should never shoot n1 with a 1 shot vigi. Because your odds of killing town are super high.Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:06 pmI don't disagree one shot vig is a shit role but dying with town KP in the holster makes no sense to me.Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pmNo they really shouldn't. One shot vig is a shit role that should never shoot n1.Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 pm What if TSPIC is the mafia roleblocker and blocked Walrus to stop the vig shot from going off
One-shot vigs should always fire N1. The only claims in the room that would stop a shot cold are nook and TSPIC.
Either Walrus holstered (which makes no sense), they shot me (which also makes no sense), or TSPIC blocked them and claimed holstered.
