The Syndicate

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine because I don’t like his responses to me and from what I can tell he’s not making sense. His most recent post reads like resigned scum.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:19 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 4:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:39 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:10 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:02 pm It appears one of the indies has not picked a side yet. Why are you sure that’s not Jack, speedchuck?

Jack had an abrupt change in behavior today. One of the 3Ps had an abrupt change of alignment today.
That's my theory. It's not bulletproof.

It seems he’s become more serious. Is that a problem?

Why would it be a problem?

It's a solution.

I was under the impression that you’ve been pushing him as a suspect. Was that a mistake on my part. I see you are voting for quin now, and you said you could vote for nova out of self-preservation. Who’s your real top suspect?

It's clearly Sprityo.

I'm playing Process of Elimination here. Trying to sort people out.

This addresses none of my questions.

I missed the first question. No, twas not a mistake. If you read my posts, you would see the thought process.

Don't have a top suspect. I am equal opportunity suspects. That's how I POE.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 5:19 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 4:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:39 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:10 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:04 pm

Jack had an abrupt change in behavior today. One of the 3Ps had an abrupt change of alignment today.
That's my theory. It's not bulletproof.

It seems he’s become more serious. Is that a problem?

Why would it be a problem?

It's a solution.

I was under the impression that you’ve been pushing him as a suspect. Was that a mistake on my part. I see you are voting for quin now, and you said you could vote for nova out of self-preservation. Who’s your real top suspect?

It's clearly Sprityo.

I'm playing Process of Elimination here. Trying to sort people out.

This addresses none of my questions.

I missed the first question. No, twas not a mistake. If you read my posts, you would see the thought process.

Don't have a top suspect. I am equal opportunity suspects. That's how I POE.

Do you still suspect Jack? Who’s in your POE pool?

Why'd nova kick off? It sounded like a speedchuck lynch was the precedent to a nova lynch.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:19 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:18 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:15 pm Why do you think Quin is bad?

Usually Quin is my first townread in a game. I usually see a genuine spark of towniness from him early. But in this game, I'm hard-pressed to say that he's had any impact on me one way or another. I have zero reason to read him as town.

Well, I pretty much feel the exact same way. I don't have a reason to scum read him either really, but here we are.

I retied the lynch between Colin and Sloonei on Day 2. It's very small, but I did it and demand recognition

You always suspect me, Quin. What’s different this game?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:00 pm You always suspect me, Quin. What’s different this game?

i haven't read any of your posts

I'm not being sarcastic or anything. Beyond a page here and there, I'm playing a very spur-of-the-moment game this time around.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:00 pm You always suspect me, Quin. What’s different this game?

i haven't read any of your posts

That didn’t stop you in GoC.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:03 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:00 pm You always suspect me, Quin. What’s different this game?

i haven't read any of your posts

That didn’t stop you in GoC.

explain

Quin says he hasn’t read any of my posts, but he clearly read that one. Lynch all liars.

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Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:03 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:00 pm You always suspect me, Quin. What’s different this game?

i haven't read any of your posts

That didn’t stop you in GoC.

explain

I remember you saying things about me before the tibes switched and tinfoiling on me from the moment we merged.

This is not relevant to this game. You got any reads?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:06 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:03 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:00 pm You always suspect me, Quin. What’s different this game?

i haven't read any of your posts

That didn’t stop you in GoC.

explain

I remember you saying things about me before the tibes switched and tinfoiling on me from the moment we merged.

This is not relevant to this game. You got any reads?

only about the survivor thing, but all i said there was that you could be bad if certain assumptions wound up being true.

I think nova's bad. His Lunalee argument sucked and I think I caught him rehearsing his posts.

dunya was the one who put you in the lead on Day 2 before i retied it between you both - I'd call her bad for that.

I don't have any town reads.

What do you mean when you say nova was rehearsing posts?

actually gonna point this out too. i don't know how i feel about it.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:00 am Quin is my new bestie

I feel like TH is implying a town read here, on Day 3. Which is confusing because Day 4, there's this line of dialogue.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:17 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:16 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:15 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:00 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 5:57 pm [VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Why?

I'm afraid I don't understand the question.

Why are you voting for Quin right now, Turnip Head?

Because I'm afraid this lynch is a wash tbh

Is Quin a better option?

Go away sloonei

Switching back to [VOTE: SPEEDCHUCK] aubergine. Either lynch is fine, but I feel slightly better about this one.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:13 pm What do you mean when you say nova was rehearsing posts?

Sentence structure. I'll pull the post I mentioned it in:

Quin wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:58 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 6:55 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 2:11 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:58 am [VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

This feels like a forced vote. Earlier when you mentioned me, you said that I was playing my Town meta by being quiet but now it's opposite. Which is it then ?

Here we can get a glimpse from what appears to be sig calling him out on “coasting” as mafia previously, though nova sticks that up sig’a ass with a stick to smoke.

I don’t know his meta, but one could say nova has been “coasting” of late. After Colin got lynched, he’s definitely lost a bit of wind in his sails

I have been busy and I missed almost the entirety of D3 and the beginning of D4. I will also not have a lot of free-time until this weekend.

About D3, I announced my intention of pushing Lunalee before Colin's push since I believed that his vote for her D1 was a distancing vote on one of his teammate. A meaningless off-wagon vote. I also didn't like how she jumped on the Oracle's prophecy and tried to confirm herself with it, while ignoring my questioning her. That's why I left a vote on her at the start of D3, before leaving.

Now with the other prophecy mentioning her and town-reading her, I have my doubts and I think she is that role. She used the prophecy to save herself and hinting at her role. So I'm not too sold on lynching her today.

Last but not least, I would say that activity is non-alignment indicative for me. I'm being honest here and I've played several games here and players can attest to that. I have been seen " coasting " as Town in my previous games as Town here, and also in a game as scum.

I'm thinking about this. Hiding behind a prophet is a kind of pointless scum tactic considering the message is based on opinion. It's not a very good argument.

Thing is, I don't know either of them very well. Would scum Luna do this? Would town nova make this argument?

Also, "I announced my intention of pushing" puts me off. It seems rehearsed.

The post reads to me like it's been rewritten to sound more ..enticing? Not the right word, but whatever. Obviously he might just write this way. I haven't seen him enough to get a grasp of that yet.

Before Themistocles and his coalition fleet could engage the Persian navy, the Earth itself played a major role in the Greek defense. Indeed, legend holds that the oracle at Delphi had insisted upon a naval encounter given a projection of terrible weather across the Aegean. The Greeks who had lived here for centuries already were quite accustomed to and prepared for the ornery weather tendencies of the region, but the Persians were not. A severe three-day storm swept over the northern Aegean directly over the Persian fleet. They tried to dock and wait it out, but the sheer size of Xerxes's fleet worked against them -- they could not effectively land anywhere given the crowd of ships that resulted. According to Herodotus, this storm alone reduced the Persian fleet from 1,200 ships to under 800. These numbers (and many of the numbers provided by Herodotus) are often disputed, but it's apparent the Persians were ill-prepared for the foreign environment.


Themistocles meant for the Athens-lead navy to defend the straight of Artemisium which separated southern Thessaly and Magnesia from the island of Euboea. Given the delay caused by the storm, the fleet was able to assume a proper defensive posture prior to the engagement. The Persians were forewarned of this, but opted to press forward, assuming that even in their weakened state they clearly outnumbered the fledgling Greeks. Herodotus is particularly colorful in his depiction of their hubris:

When Xerxes' men and their commanders saw how few were the ships sailing to attack them, they attributed it to lunacy, pure and simple, and put out to sea themselves, confident that they would have no problem in capturing the Greek fleet -- a perfectly reasonable expectation, given that it was visibly outnumbered by their own, and less maneuverable too. Confident in their own superiority, they formed a circle around the Greeks. Now, those of the Ionians who were backing the Greeks, and only serving with the Persian expedition against their will, felt that the spectacle of the Greek fleet being encircled spelled certain disaster, since they were convinced -- given how precarious the situation of the Greeks appeared -- that not a man of them would make it home. The rest, though, were delighted by the course of events, and vied with one another to see who would win the reward from the King for being the first to capture an Athenian ship.

- Herodotus, The Histories, Book Eight, Paragraph 10

This actually referenced a prelude to the battle in which a smaller contingent of the Greek fleet raided the Persian position, and in so doing they captured numerous ships at minimal losses.
This was the first time that a technological disparity could be observed between the two navies. The Persian ships were considerably smaller and faster, but the Greek triremes were better armored and sturdier. They'd been designed for one key offensive move: ramming.


One Greek trireme, when colliding with a Persian ship cross-ways, could cause immense damage or annihilate the vessel outright. This caused minimal damage to the trireme itself, and it enabled the Greeks two crucial advantages. They could engage the Persians at a serious numbers disadvantage without concern for being surrounded, as they could blast a hole in in any encirclement. Moreover, they could lodge their vessels into the hulls of their enemies' and more easily board them for capture. This distinction would prove arguably the most important factor in the eventual Greek victory. The Persians though were outraged that so few ships could cause them such grief, and for fear of Xerxes's response, the admirals ordered a full-scale attack upon the Greek position at Artemisium.

It just so happened that over the very same few days, as least as told by Herodotus, that the Spartan defense at Thermopylae was being undertaken.

The next day but one, so indignant were the Persian high command that such a tiny number of ships should have given them a bloody nose, and so anxious as well about how Xerxes would react, that they no longer waited for the Greeks to initiate hostilities, but instead, in the middle of the day, ordered all hands to their stations and put out to sea. As coincidence would have it, the battle between the two fleets took place on exactly the same days as witnessed the land-battle at Thermopylae. Just as the struggle at sea was focused entirely on the Euripus, so for Leonidas and his men it was the pass that had to be held. In both cases, the exhortations were the same: on the Greek side, to prevent the Barbarians from getting into Greece, and among the Barbarians, to annihilate the Greeks and secure the passage.

- Herodotus, The Histories, Book Eight, Paragraph 15

Day 5 has ended. speedchuck has been lynched. He was:


Night 5 is underway. You have 23 hours to get your night actions to me.

Hold the pass.
Poll ended at Sun May 06, 2018 6:32 pm
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Jackofhearts2005
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M Plus 7
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novaselinenever
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Scotty
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Sloonei
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Spacedaisy
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speedchuck
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45%
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Greeks? More like Geeks amirite? (host/dead/non)
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Total votes: 20

wow cool

Fancy feasts! Good times.

Heads up:

If Darius the Great is lynched, all voting on the following day phase will be conducted entirely in private (in a message to the host). There will be no poll, and it will be illegal for all players to reveal or strongly hint at their intended votes publicly. Vote changes will also be illegal. This effect will last only the day phase following the lynch of Darius the Great.

Cool

Which means let’s all hammer out how wer’re looking to vote tomorrow because when tomorrow happens, we gon be in the dark like a Milky Way in motor oil

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:42 pm Fancy feasts! Good times.

Heads up:

If Darius the Great is lynched, all voting on the following day phase will be conducted entirely in private (in a message to the host). There will be no poll, and it will be illegal for all players to reveal or strongly hint at their intended votes publicly. Vote changes will also be illegal. This effect will last only the day phase following the lynch of Darius the Great.

Less cool

smh going on about his quindar

Can we talk about it now?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:43 pm Which means let’s all hammer out how wer’re looking to vote tomorrow because when tomorrow happens, we gon be in the dark like a Milky Way in motor oil

How does this impact the nova case?

I mean speedchuck’s flip, not the whole secret voting thing

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:44 pm smh going on about his quindar

he did it in FE too HOLY SHIT ITS A WHOLE NEW META

At least there was a twist

twist?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:08 pmtwist?

It's like a dramatic storytelling technique

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:13 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:08 pmtwist?

It's like a dramatic storytelling technique

im not familiar with the concept

why would you want to be dramatic while telling a story, wouldn't that just stress out the listener?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:16 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:13 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:08 pmtwist?

It's like a dramatic storytelling technique

im not familiar with the concept

why would you want to be dramatic while telling a story, wouldn't that just stress out the listener?

Only if you do it right

Like I'm pretty excited for tgis secret vote thingy. I hope I get blindsided or something

i don't really understand the concept, like we're still allowed to talk in general right? if someone makes a huge case on somebody in relation to colin an dsleepchuck it would kind of indicate the direction of their vote right

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:27 pm i don't really understand the concept, like we're still allowed to talk in general right? if someone makes a huge case on somebody in relation to colin an dsleepchuck it would kind of indicate the direction of their vote right

No hot potato allowed, though.

Well done, everyone!

And looking forward to playing with you again, speed.

I'd say, given that mechanic for Day 6, we intend on voting Nova and being unified in it. We should discuss it over the Night though.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 7:37 pm Well done, everyone!

And looking forward to playing with you again, speed.

I'd say, given that mechanic for Day 6, we intend on voting Nova and being unified in it. We should discuss it over the Night though.

But that sounds boring. We deserve chaos!

mark my vote down in the less chaos column please

thanks

Well, that's good.

Gj all

Are we cool with voting nova? I have him in my red