The Syndicate

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:27 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:26 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine

Could you remind me why you scumread me? I've honestly forgotten.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:33 am What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:31 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:33 am What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:31 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:33 am What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

Thanks.

That's my town game tbh.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

I think that makes somewhat sense. Epi can be town.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm How6much do people buss teammates here?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:38 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 pm gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

I think that makes somewhat sense. Epi can be town.

You townread Epi because of tedxtr's opinion?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:39 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:39 pm I think you're just taking a lot of NAI stuff and assuming it is AI, Poison.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:39 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:45 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:39 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

You want me to decide who's bad, and which voter on them is also bad?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:04 pm the only concern is that poast from Hally that goes "I feel like TSP just perspective slipped"

I'd assume it's within her scum range but I'd probably look the other way if it were anybody else that did that so I may be at an impasse.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:48 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:45 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:39 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

You want me to decide who's bad, and which voter on them is also bad?

No I want you to tell me if you have any idea about the bussing history of the 3 players who are leading the wagons up there.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:49 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:04 pm the only concern is that poast from Hally that goes "I feel like TSP just perspective slipped"

I'd assume it's within her scum range but I'd probably look the other way if it were anybody else that did that so I may be at an impasse.

tbh i think that whole interaction with tony should clear me, not specifically that post. like his push on me there plus how i responded isn’t teammate interaction. also his treatment of me generally was trying to create suspicion on me. i think it’s kinda obvious but like, obviously i’m biased. i really think you all are letting your inflated paranoia over my scum game blind you from seeing that i’m an obvious villager for so many reasons

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:49 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:04 pm the only concern is that poast from Hally that goes "I feel like TSP just perspective slipped"

I'd assume it's within her scum range but I'd probably look the other way if it were anybody else that did that so I may be at an impasse.

tbh i think that whole interaction with tony should clear me, not specifically that post. like his push on me there plus how i responded isn’t teammate interaction. also his treatment of me generally was trying to create suspicion on me. i think it’s kinda obvious but like, obviously i’m biased. i really think you all are letting your inflated paranoia over my scum game blind you from seeing that i’m an obvious villager for so many reasons

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:50 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:48 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:45 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:39 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:35 pm How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

You want me to decide who's bad, and which voter on them is also bad?

No I want you to tell me if you have any idea about the bussing history of the 3 players who are leading the wagons up there.

No, I don't really keep those kinds of records.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:18 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:09 pm

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:08 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:49 am

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:19 am on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

this feels chainsaw-y.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:56 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:18 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:09 pm

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:08 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:49 am

112 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:19 am on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

this feels chainsaw-y.

Tony did attack 112 relatively early. Distancing, or genuine?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 am caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:58 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

it's not

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:58 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:32 am caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

After only suspecting Hally, Tony turned it around to top-tier town read.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:59 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:58 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

it's not

then who is the team. right now gth

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

i expect one if not both of you to end on me

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:04 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

LMAO

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:32 pm Wilgy, are you town, sir?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:06 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:04 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

LMAO

Give me the signal when it's time to move together to Hally. The signal is: " "

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:28 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:28 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:21 pm Besides anything else, Hally has clearly stated she thinks tutuu is just being her regular town self. So not only is Tony deflecting, he's deflecting with a question he should already know the answer to.

well okay I didn't know that

Right, because you don't actually care about the answer so you didn't retain it.

I mean you show me where Hally said this

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:57 pm it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:07 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:32 pm Wilgy, are you town, sir?

Yup yup!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:07 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:32 pm Wilgy, are you town, sir?

Yup yup!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:47 pm Hally bad, tedxtr busser.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:55 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:51 pm i feel like tony actually makes more sense here than usual. when he’s town and gives reads i feel like he talks in riddles but this game i can actually understand him sorta. is that scummy lmao

yes actually

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:11 pm I had a fight with a kid when I was in preschool and we then became friends. It's like that with me and Long-Kun.

DrWilgy the Tyrant must be brought down.