Re: U-Pick Mafia Vol 1 - Night 5
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:22 am
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Yeah so Zeph aka King Kong didn't talk much at all expect to come in and offer me a deal. Basically he said he'd help me if I was mafia or civ and if I was mafia he'd abduct strong civvies as long as we didn't kill him. Then he said if I tell anyone anything about what he said or try to figure him out he'd say I confessed to him that I was mafia and get me lynched.
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:04 amYou lucky bastards.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:27 am If The Endless Void is lynched or otherwise killed, the Chatzy of Lost Souls is completely destroyed. Every person inside has a 50/50 chance of survival.
Sig and Dunya have been liberated.![]()
Hmm Potentially yeah.
Juliets has been contributing like hell since she got back whereas I haven’t thought much about sig all game. So that’s how I reached that theory.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:30 amthis was funny to me. sig has been out of the game as much as juliets, yet you see him as scum and see juliets as town. how did you reach that theory?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 10:02 am Quick GTH thoughts
Confirmed town:
Colin
Charlie
Probably town:
DDL (or town-aligned?)
Cbob
Juliets
Kyle
Neutral, could see vaguely as scum:
Long Con
Luna
Sloonei
Sig
Dunya
Like less:
INH
Kites
Motel Room
Turnip Head
I have no really strong scum reads so yeah idk
if you're bad with LC tho, TH is definitely your teammate.
*rolls eyes* if you think that was me trying to throw shade on you then I don't really know what to tell you. This whole angle is kind of silly, if I was going to push on somebody who got townfirmed why would I totally ignore the townfirming? Please.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:33 amno, you said there was a slight push for me being nova's teammate but cleared me from being ISIS because of how I handled Scotty (even though you still wanted to paint me as looking bad with my interactions with Lilefer but end it with "still not enough to move me to being ISIS cos of Scotty")colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:29 amI was gone from the thread when speedchuck town-firmed you. I didn't go back and read everything I missed. Weak sauce.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:35 am now here's why I think cbob is bad:
cbob is one of the most thorough players I know. I name him as one of my favorite cos he's great. cbob does all that analysis to end up on Sloonei? really? you didn't have any better leads? hard for me to believe.
cbob does all that analysis and lists me as slight scum a few times? really? he doesn't even mention how or why speedchuck town confirmed me. cbob doesn't make mistakes like that, cbob would have analyzed the shit out of that claim, but a scum cbob would make omissions to please his case while I was silenced.
I'll do some more ISO on cbob and teammate compatibility. Was pretty sure I saw him and LC as team-mate compatible.
Plus how did I make omissions to plead my case? I never pushed on you. In fact I said you were teammate incompatible with ISIS, and I don't think there was much there with nova.
That's a pretty weak solid incompatibility.
Why was Sloonei your best vote yesterday?
Alternatively, I made a case and voted for my best suspect.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:36 am also, I'm sorry, but cbob I know asking all these probing questions that actually lead to places isn't in this game. It's the same feeling I got when I said Scotty was not himself, LC was trying to hard to appear clueless...and you're just doing homework to look like you're invested but reach a decision to lynch Sloonei, the only player who hasn't broken roleplay all game because he won't put up a fight? that was your best pick?
*rolls more eyes*dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:42 amYou've done this twice, with Kyle/Eloh and Colin/nova. subtly though. You're saying because of Eloh's and nova's pushes on Kyle and Colin respectively, Colin and Kyle are not not bad.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 3:40 pm Eloh mostly interacted with nutella, dunya, and Colin, but she did try to throw heat on Kyle. More indication he's not ISIS. No real conclusions from the other interactions.
I've never seen cbob so easily convinced people aren't scum because of bussing/distancing. My theory is Kyle is town (because I think he's town), and Kyle will resonate with that and agree. But really, it was building to "Colin and nova can't be teammates" because "Kyle and Eloh aren't teammates".
Very strange conclusions coming out of cbob. If anything, those interactions would ping me.
Sex cave should be NAI. Lost Souls is presumably cleared from being Al-Pieda, although I could see them throwing a teammate in there as deep cover I guess.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:40 am I’m having a really hard time following this game tbh. Are we townclearing everybody who’s been unvanished/unsexcaved? Doesn’t it seem kinda mathematically improbable that you’d all be good??
I don't want to lynch dunya tomorrow, I'd say if we don't hit scum for a few phases we'd wanna look at her/juliet again.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 am Dunya was townfirmed by speed, but that’s not what his role did. So anybody care to explain that?
Yeah I'm curious as well. I barely read anything between when I vanished and when I returned.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 am Dunya was townfirmed by speed, but that’s not what his role did. So anybody care to explain that?
Specifically the "you wanted to vote Sloonei all the time because he won't put up a fight so you threw out a bunch of meaningless stuff to pretend" casecolonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:50 amAlternatively, I made a case and voted for my best suspect.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:36 am also, I'm sorry, but cbob I know asking all these probing questions that actually lead to places isn't in this game. It's the same feeling I got when I said Scotty was not himself, LC was trying to hard to appear clueless...and you're just doing homework to look like you're invested but reach a decision to lynch Sloonei, the only player who hasn't broken roleplay all game because he won't put up a fight? that was your best pick?
This case is bullshit.
You know there's something else about this that bothers me.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:36 am also, I'm sorry, but cbob I know asking all these probing questions that actually lead to places isn't in this game. It's the same feeling I got when I said Scotty was not himself, LC was trying to hard to appear clueless...and you're just doing homework to look like you're invested but reach a decision to lynch Sloonei, the only player who hasn't broken roleplay all game because he won't put up a fight? that was your best pick?
yet you specifically called the nova/Colin "light distancing".colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 am*rolls more eyes*dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:42 amYou've done this twice, with Kyle/Eloh and Colin/nova. subtly though. You're saying because of Eloh's and nova's pushes on Kyle and Colin respectively, Colin and Kyle are not not bad.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 3:40 pm Eloh mostly interacted with nutella, dunya, and Colin, but she did try to throw heat on Kyle. More indication he's not ISIS. No real conclusions from the other interactions.
I've never seen cbob so easily convinced people aren't scum because of bussing/distancing. My theory is Kyle is town (because I think he's town), and Kyle will resonate with that and agree. But really, it was building to "Colin and nova can't be teammates" because "Kyle and Eloh aren't teammates".
Very strange conclusions coming out of cbob. If anything, those interactions would ping me.
There's distance pushing and legit pushing. Those felt like legit pushing to me, not distance pushing. Call it gut.
cos I know Sloonei is town through game mechanics.colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:01 pmYou know there's something else about this that bothers me.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:36 am also, I'm sorry, but cbob I know asking all these probing questions that actually lead to places isn't in this game. It's the same feeling I got when I said Scotty was not himself, LC was trying to hard to appear clueless...and you're just doing homework to look like you're invested but reach a decision to lynch Sloonei, the only player who hasn't broken roleplay all game because he won't put up a fight? that was your best pick?
"Sloonei hasn't broken roleplay all game" -> not suspicious
"This cbob is different" -> suspicious
Why the discrepancy? Neither Sloonei nor I are playing pur typical games here, but I'm a lot closer to mine than he is to his.
Why would a civilian townfirm me?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 am Dunya was townfirmed by speed, but that’s not what his role did. So anybody care to explain that?
I think it’s a valid question as to why his stated ability is not what it was revealed to be. Only thing I can think of is that he was an Absolute Unit and you are too, but how common are civ teams like that here?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:11 pmWhy would a civilian townfirm me?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 am Dunya was townfirmed by speed, but that’s not what his role did. So anybody care to explain that?![]()
Mac-common.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:13 pmI think it’s a valid question as to why his stated ability is not what it was revealed to be. Only thing I can think of is that he was an Absolute Unit and you are too, but how common are civ teams like that here?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:11 pmWhy would a civilian townfirm me?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:52 am Dunya was townfirmed by speed, but that’s not what his role did. So anybody care to explain that?![]()
How?dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:10 pmcos I know Sloonei is town through game mechanics.colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:01 pmYou know there's something else about this that bothers me.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:36 am also, I'm sorry, but cbob I know asking all these probing questions that actually lead to places isn't in this game. It's the same feeling I got when I said Scotty was not himself, LC was trying to hard to appear clueless...and you're just doing homework to look like you're invested but reach a decision to lynch Sloonei, the only player who hasn't broken roleplay all game because he won't put up a fight? that was your best pick?
"Sloonei hasn't broken roleplay all game" -> not suspicious
"This cbob is different" -> suspicious
Why the discrepancy? Neither Sloonei nor I are playing pur typical games here, but I'm a lot closer to mine than he is to his.
And you're not in roleplay, your actually trying to maintain your town meta (roll your eyes as many times as you want...but be careful eventually they stick up there)
I don't think so, like in theory they could, but putting a mafia member with civs, without outside contact is a bad idea. Plus when you're vanished you don't count towards final numbers meaning if we would've lynched the rest of the mafia team they'd be screwed. So I'd say there's a good chance we aren'tcolonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:54 amSex cave should be NAI. Lost Souls is presumably cleared from being Al-Pieda, although I could see them throwing a teammate in there as deep cover I guess.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:40 am I’m having a really hard time following this game tbh. Are we townclearing everybody who’s been unvanished/unsexcaved? Doesn’t it seem kinda mathematically improbable that you’d all be good??
I know you don’t trust me but I’m trying to get an explanation of what Absolute Unit is and does because I think I found a way to solve part of the game, so if you’re half-claiming, I’d appreciate the full monte
Tell me your ideas.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:22 pmI know you don’t trust me but I’m trying to get an explanation of what Absolute Unit is and does because I think I found a way to solve part of the game, so if you’re half-claiming, I’d appreciate the full monte
it's not that simple. I know some people.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:26 pm Well it’s dependent on what that means. You don’t have to offer anybody else up but you know who everybody in your team is?