The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:07 pm Why don’t we keep just elimming civs every day because of who yells the loudest and pushes the hardest, great strategy there.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:01 pm Ffs mac someone needs to throw a shell at you.

Someone needs to stop antagonising me and stop being a fucking hypocrite actually.

You’re the one antagonising. You are literally wolf reading every single person who isn’t doing what you want. I’m not your slave.

Liar. I am wolfreading Alison for egregiously mischaracterising the nature of Rondo's play in order to defend him.

I am annoyed and sceptical of you and find your pleading to loyalty to be absurd given you didn't even give me the courtesy of reading my argument towards Rondo before attempting to undermine it.

Go back and read this interaction with a clear mind and apologise for calling me a fool.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:32 pm I am kinda worried Neon might be just trolling about actually shooting Sabiplz. Otherwise I would heavily townread her for that.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:08 pm I looked through Sig's ISO, and it's not as towny as I remembered. In fact, it's kind of not towny. Biggest question is if the mixing up Sabie/Sabi is genuine or not.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:18 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:09 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:08 pm Omg I'm bored

We can get in a fight if you want?

Those pants make your calves look smol

I don’t believe in calves ergo mine are amazing tyvm.

Your username sounds like Sad Eye Peas!

I think this can easily be w/w interaction. I think someone said it was too spontaneous or something, but I disagree.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:02 pm Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

There's a disconnect in reading Golden town, acknowledging SVS has a point on Golden/Kate, and still having active suspicion on Kate. Also the bottom list is likely bad. Dennis and TSP flipped town, and I think Wilgy and Creature are both very likely town. Kate may or may not be. And the extra mention of SabiE is iiinteresting.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:10 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:05 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:02 pm Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

I'm sabi not sabie

You only played one game with me

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This is much more important though. Would Sabi and Sig do this as a theatre? I think Sabi would. Her push for Sig "fake derping" was truly bad and weird in the first place. I don't know if Sig would be a player doing fancy shit like this on purpose as mafia. Would like opinions on that.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:49 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:48 pm Honestly? Not a bad night. 1 mafia down 1 3rd party down, and then 2 iffy towny.

Now the question is to sort through who the potential mafia kill is so we can do some NKA

Le petit poussin and tonystarkprime are definitely mafia kills.

That’s what I’m thinking which weird to hit TSP unless the mafia is playing a very safe game

This post is also suss to me. Why did you think mafia killed TSP if you at the same time think it's weird?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:52 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm i used my once a game night action on sabi but they were shot by someone else

so so so so so sad

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:07 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:06 pmLilypetal also claimed shooting Sabiplz.

Wait. I asked about this but don't think I got an answer

@Lilypetal

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:35 pmI want to go down hitting an actual mafia so this looks like a good case

[VOTE: Sig ] aubergine

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:52 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm i used my once a game night action on sabi but they were shot by someone else

so so so so so sad

huh

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:09 pm Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:07 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:06 pmLilypetal also claimed shooting Sabiplz.

Wait. I asked about this but don't think I got an answer

@Lilypetal

oh yeah well i dont want to expand on my action but i actually misread it and i can use it again

i dont want to go into specifics but yeah im going to use it on someone in the poe

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:37 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:52 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm i used my once a game night action on sabi but they were shot by someone else

so so so so so sad

huh

ok yeah this is not a claim that she shot sabi lol it was some other action that was rendered useless by sabi dying

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:11 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:09 pm Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

I don't appreciate how you are treating me right now. I could attempt to injure your pride too, out of wounded ego and probably with more skill and tact but I feel it would be a bad idea so I'm refraining. Try to imagine the types of things I would say though. Like walk up to a mirror and insult yourself for me please.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:38 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:07 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:06 pmLilypetal also claimed shooting Sabiplz.

Wait. I asked about this but don't think I got an answer

@Lilypetal

oh yeah well i dont want to expand on my action but i actually misread it and i can use it again

i dont want to go into specifics but yeah im going to use it on someone in the poe

Oh ok. I'm just thinking if it's a kill, that would be useful to know. Cause then Neon claiming it would be dubious.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:14 pm Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:18 pm I thought town!Seanzie would care a lot more about being wagoned as a town strongman vig.

Do you have experience with Seanzie in both metas? I'm sort of realising I don't but also that this doesn't feel like the one wolf!Seanzie I remember.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:36 pm Golden, Kate and Scotty are the only players I didn't mention afair and I don't know what to say about them. I am pretty on the fence about all of them.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:09 pm Anyway, I’m voting rondo to meet your emotional need to know his alignment this very second. Fine with me. You might even be right. If you are svs is still a teammate.

See he might not even want to fully vote me out, He might just be doing this to get me to obv town but 6/6/6 wagons (fuck yeah) is pretty chill for me so he wont be seeing what he is looking for which is unfortunate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:20 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:17 pm Alison and Mac might be wolves together and in that case we're pretty screwed.

Christ on a bike

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:36 pm Golden, Kate and Scotty are the only players I didn't mention afair and I don't know what to say about them. I am pretty on the fence about all of them.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:40 pm Mac is no longer voting me. I am scott free right? /s

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:37 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:35 pmI want to go down hitting an actual mafia so this looks like a good case

[VOTE: Sig ] aubergine

Oh no

I usually make rubbish cases. Source: MU champs finals

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:40 pm Mac is no longer voting me. I am scott free right? /s

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:20 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm 112 kinda disappeared but meh 112 could be just town LHF.

the reason is that someone smashed the computers on my unit in the "healing centre" at which i'm interned

Creature has a lot of posts for someone who doesn't know this

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:20 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

People who know her meta are wolf reading her

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:18 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:14 pm Anyway, I think both SVS and rondo can be a hit. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive

This is really obfuscating the point I was frustrated about but honestly the desperation with which it seems people need to process my behaviour as oriented towards protecting my ego vs. a desire to help town win a game and see through mistruths in the pursuit of said wincon has me arriving at a point with which I recognise that the game being won is not worth the tribulation that such things cause.

That is all to say Rondo is lock town y'all. Floundering and capitulating to a well made case is a fabulous reason to townread someone and Alison is a genius for realising that. I am voting on the wrong pusy.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:20 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

People who know her meta are wolf reading her

Who are those people?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:21 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:28 pm I'm going to assume Rondo and Seanzie are the frontrunner options today and that's where I should focus if I want to do anything useful.

could both Seanzie and I be town?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

In all the games I’ve played with SVS, I’ve never heard her called LHF. That’s not who SVS is, historically.

So that in and of itself is concerning

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:24 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:22 pm Mac, I do apologise for the tone I take with you. I take it often and just assume you in particular can take it and aren’t phased, but it is unfair.

The only reason that it is unfair is that if I were baited into replying in kind I would be the one held up as the emotional maniac and rissoled for it. I would take it with fine humour if I was able to reciprocate with the full power of my arsenal of Australian insults.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:43 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

In all the games I’ve played with SVS, I’ve never heard her called LHF. That’s not who SVS is, historically.

So that in and of itself is concerning

Ok then we kill SVS. I assume that should be an easy pelt, right?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:24 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:24 pm master radishes was also a wagon earlier and now it has fully disappeared.

We can work together to bring it back?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:44 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:24 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:24 pm master radishes was also a wagon earlier and now it has fully disappeared.

We can work together to bring it back?

I dunno. I have no idea how you play as wolf.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:21 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:18 pm @MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

Explain to me like I'm 5 how you can get her point but not agree. Please.

Hi, little Mac! I wub you! Let mommy explain something to you! I think her point was that Rondo "picked a fight with you" and that it makes him look bad if Seanzie is mafia KP, because it would be a way to distract away from Sean. I could see Alison thinking this, because I think she assumes everyone is playing in a strategical, planned out and optimal way. Which I think is very far from the truth. I think most people do random stuff and that things just happen. We are people, not machines. So I don't agree that Rondo had any specific purpose getting into a fight with you, and I think that Rondo didn't really have a choice to in the first place. He's playing a game, and suddenly he was in a fight with you. Does that make sense?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:24 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:23 pm I see Sloonei being around. Should I be worried they are just lurking or do they lurk like this every game?

I think it just shows people hanging out even if their browser is closed or whatever. I also am pretty sure we should not make reads based on it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:24 pm Ok well, I’m only voting mac if 2 others with wagons are also voting there. Otherwise it won’t work.

I still think that’s a great town-sided play, but it requires participation from the players so nah humbug

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:25 pm I think Mac's a wolf but I'll give him the chance to lynch a wolf today incase he is town or bussing wolf.

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:28 pm Creature I'm sorry to be rude but your contributions to this game have been non stop staggering ghastly bad.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:18 pm I thought town!Seanzie would care a lot more about being wagoned as a town strongman vig.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:26 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:20 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:17 pm Is SVS "caught wolf" simply a meta read?



@Golden

Yeah, just me being exaggerative.

Talk to me about this meta...they just don't have enough towny fire?



You had specific reasons for TR Kate, so I imagine you have some for SR SVS, no?

Town SVS would generally be jumping at the shadow of wolves in her wagon, omgusing hard, and independently hunting as well. She’s been claiming catch ups but hasn’t even really been creating much content out of that.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:35 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:32 pm I am kinda worried Neon might be just trolling about actually shooting Sabiplz. Otherwise I would heavily townread her for that.

If it's true that lily shot sabi then I'd question the neon claim but the way lily reacted seemed like it was something else, not a cc

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:29 pm I'm awake but I sure as fuck ain't alive