The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:02 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:00 am But Falcon would be my best guess

Was it Scotty or fingers saying he was out of range?


It could be you and scotty I like the sound of this saying it out loud

Perhaps its Scotty and svs? Or Scotty and Golden?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:48 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:40 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:37 am That post also took me a literal hour to write and I should've put it in a spoiler. Oops.

ok, so lets say I town read you and Lucy, who do you want to murder today and if they flip town do I murder you in return for pulling a heavy defense on Lucy as a w/w team?

I would want Scotty if I was king. If Scotty flips wolf I think it hard clears Lucy and I think Scotty looks wolfy.

Also logically speaking...yes. at least in that as wolf I'd feel heavily pressured to keep Lucy alive if we were wolf wolf.

And if we look at the Sabi invitational. I did hard defend my teammate lumi but I kept constant sus on Katze and largely ignored Brad and wisdom until I bussed Brad. So it's within my range to basically take any approach to my team

Alternatively in my wolf game here with Sabi and wilgy I bussed both of them lol. I would accept the pressure in this case because I know I'm town and I think I could help you see that regardless of if I'm off base with scotty and/or Lucy.

Spoiler: show

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:21 am Vote on Roxy not a good look for him either

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:21 am I’m trying to be open minded about Rondo, because the more he posts the worse I feel about him. But this isn’t the first game I’ve felt like that about him. Some players tend to post in a way that naturally seems suspicious, and I’m trying to see past that but idk. gonna see what other people think now.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:30 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:53 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:12 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:21 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:47 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:01 pm Weee rainbow list!!
Me
Golden
SVS
Scotty/Neon
Rondo
Roxy
Seanzie
Splints/Lucy
Falcon

Roxy is townlean because she's not been able to have a conversation but all of her reads feel genuine.

Seanzie would be way lower if I didn't trust Golden. I'm not entirely convinced by the whole 'doc Seanzie' claim and if someone else flips Doc then everything has to be reconsidered.

Have it all, y'all

Why do you have neon so high?

Actually I could potentially switch to Roxy here I haven't seen any impactful play from that slot I keep forgetting it exists

Jack (my twin, and who was in Neon's slot) seemed uninterested, and he probably would've been more engaged if he was mafia. Especially with Mata as a partner according to SVS. Neon has also done a ton of analysis, but with her recent 'Hmmmm...'ing I am rethinking that, seeing as she appeared more noting of my 'Rip mom lol' joke than my list, I was looking forward to hearing her actual thoughts.

I don't know your brother, but I do know neon and neon is in her wolf range

I'm well outside my known wolf range for one reason. I mean like I know about that reason so it's moot but you shouldn't know I know.

Say more words

I prefer saying less words. I suck at translating what I'm thinking to words that people understand.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:47 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:01 pm Weee rainbow list!!
Me
Golden
SVS
Scotty/Neon
Rondo
Roxy
Seanzie
Splints/Lucy
Falcon

Roxy is townlean because she's not been able to have a conversation but all of her reads feel genuine.

Seanzie would be way lower if I didn't trust Golden. I'm not entirely convinced by the whole 'doc Seanzie' claim and if someone else flips Doc then everything has to be reconsidered.

Have it all, y'all

Why do you have neon so high?

Actually I could potentially switch to Roxy here I haven't seen any impactful play from that slot I keep forgetting it exists

Jack (my twin, and who was in Neon's slot) seemed uninterested, and he probably would've been more engaged if he was mafia. Especially with Mata as a partner according to SVS. Neon has also done a ton of analysis, but with her recent 'Hmmmm...'ing I am rethinking that, seeing as she appeared more noting of my 'Rip mom lol' joke than my list, I was looking forward to hearing her actual thoughts.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:01 pm Weee rainbow list!!
Me
Golden
SVS
Scotty/Neon
Rondo
Roxy
Seanzie
Splints/Lucy
Falcon

Roxy is townlean because she's not been able to have a conversation but all of her reads feel genuine.

Seanzie would be way lower if I didn't trust Golden. I'm not entirely convinced by the whole 'doc Seanzie' claim and if someone else flips Doc then everything has to be reconsidered.

Have it all, y'all

Why do you have neon so high?

Actually I could potentially switch to Roxy here I haven't seen any impactful play from that slot I keep forgetting it exists

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:03 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:43 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:47 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:23 am My work is done here. See you all tomorrow.

Boo, help us solve.

It's Lucy and Rondo.

Ok I am just going to ignore your slot now, I understand Mac's POV on you even more. You should open a construction company

Boom bye scum.

God I just…I can’t shake that you’re just bad. I haven’t agreed or even followed a lot of your post progressions this game.

Bumping you down to the same tier on my rainbow list as falcon

Is that because you don't think I am scum or he just posts one word scum cases?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:16 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:15 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:13 am [VOTE: rondo] aubergine

A very poor vote for you when Seanzie is the only thing keeping me from slamming on you to tie the wagons

I'd kill this.

Would you also kill golden?

Yes.

Wait Scotty is this a direct statement that golden should die? Because if it's is I will vote him now and hard just say the word

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:40 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:03 pm Here's that rainbow list that no one asked for. Players are listed alphabetically in tiers.

Town

S~V~S
Dennis

Light Town

falcon45ca
Kate
Sabiplz
Scotty

Null or No Content

bea
DrWilgy
fingersplints
jack shepherd
lucy
Roxy
Seanzie
Soneji

Mafia Lean

Golden
Matahari



And to include a recap on players I haven't talked about yet that I have now sorted into tiers:

falcon45ca: I also don't really trust Golden, albeit might be for different reasons. His vibes don't strike me as hitting the notes of his scum game.

Scotty: Has been active and prodding, and also mostly harmless. I think of the townleans I have, his is the least strongest, but GTH, I do think he's town, and I have seen enough content from him to slot him here for now.

Matahari: Some of her thoughts that she posted in #529 lack direction. That is fine. But I get the feeling that she is pushing herself to talk about players when she doesn't have anything specific to say about them. Soneji in particular.

Like Marmots NK; I could see a baddie team with one member in the bottom tier NKing him as a WIFOM move. But a Golden/Mata team would have to be incredibly arrogant to kill Marmot here. Possible, but not sure I see it.

At the time, I thought it might have been Sabi that NKed him, or after they flipped civ, I thought it might have been Lucy trying to isolate Sabi. But it could have been for totally different reasons, and I could be out of left field.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:07 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:03 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:43 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:47 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:23 am My work is done here. See you all tomorrow.

Boo, help us solve.

It's Lucy and Rondo.

Ok I am just going to ignore your slot now, I understand Mac's POV on you even more. You should open a construction company

Boom bye scum.

God I just…I can’t shake that you’re just bad. I haven’t agreed or even followed a lot of your post progressions this game.

Bumping you down to the same tier on my rainbow list as falcon

"Bad" in the bad sense or "bad" in the good sense? "bad to the bone" or is it that I'm like "bad medicine",and "bad medicine" is what you need?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:32 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:37 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:08 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:58 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:51 pm

(as I'm not aware of the climate of this game and it's players, please note this is entirely satire)

You coming into this thread is like a cold breeze blowing in on a hot day to aerate the undercarriage under my kilt. Appreciate your energy, doc

Scotty is officially a flirty pockety pock

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:50 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:44 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:52 am

IME it means both/could mean either depending on context.

Thank you, that’s what I thought. It just seemed that Scotty was implying Dennis misused the term so it confused me.

I have mixed feels on Scotty. I know he plays a very analytical game, and there’s not much to analyze before the first elimination. So I’m low keying my expectations of him a bit until Day 2.

But he also seems to be on the same thing as Lucy re Dennis, albeit on a lesser scale. That bothers me a bit. Sabiplz said she thinks Scotty’s buddying me. I didn’t get that feeling. We just finished a game where we we both town, and he low key suspected me pretty much the whole game. So I was just thinking that having just watched me closely in that game, he had a better feel for my town game.

But I also know I can be susceptible to that, so her saying it makes me more aware to watch for it.

Scotty feels pockety thus far, to both myself and Wilgy

Both of these live quite early in the falcon iso. Initial gut check is this is a good look for scotty (assuming falcon flips wolf).

falcon's town, belive that.


I have inside information

No infodumping

I don’t care where the info came from

Uh, bit late for that, I declared myself Town ages ago.


Info - dumped.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:16 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:15 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:13 am [VOTE: rondo] aubergine

A very poor vote for you when Seanzie is the only thing keeping me from slamming on you to tie the wagons

I'd kill this.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:13 am Scotty… someone in this thread, the real doctor, would have been shading the ever living shit out of me and Seanzie for the last two days if I was wrong.

No one has. There’s a bit of light tinfoil and that’s it.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:10 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:07 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:51 am I genuinely cannot think of one. The best I can come up with is that wolves skipped the kill to get the doc to self-identify but that’s poor value.

I think Kate was close enough to the town core early on that she could have been a legit kill target

I just wanna fishslap you for still tinfoiling that I wasn’t the NK night two.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:06 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:05 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:48 am If Dennis if mafia I don’t think it takes until day four to kill Kate tbh.

When would he have done it?

Sooner

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:03 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:43 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:47 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:23 am My work is done here. See you all tomorrow.

Boo, help us solve.

It's Lucy and Rondo.

Ok I am just going to ignore your slot now, I understand Mac's POV on you even more. You should open a construction company

Boom bye scum.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:58 am

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:56 am Looking for GTH opinions: Lucy Village or Woof? (No PoE, if you had to make a call what is it?)

OK, to start, I have no info. But reading back has made me realize I made a timing error, and I made the mistake of listening to someone else when I should have listened to myself. And I am finding some of the things Golden is saying today alarming.

I am going to guess this is OK with Golden since he did something similar to Sean, and becasue i think I am probably mistaken. I'm just going on what I believed most of this game. And I am not sure how to explain this without "going there".

I thought Golden was an info role, and was trying to steer a bit based on that without actually dumping into the thread (which one of the info roles isn't allowed to do anyhow, iirc). Day 1, if i had an info role, I would have checked Sean. Sean was the opposing wagon to Wilgy, and was taking tons of heat. And Golden came in defending Sean. The Doc case he made a few days later looked made up to me, it looked like an info case, except to prove someone was civ, not that they were bad. He posted it to get people off the Sean fixation, and it worked. I myself thought he was town, and still do. Since no one really pushed back at that case, maybe he actually is that role

Golden also was defending Lucy, who I would have checked Day 2 if I were an info role. She was the 2nd wagon Day 2, although not as close as the Day 1 wagon. So I backed off of her, and moved on. I also felt to some extent that maybe I was picking on her (although I am not sure why I would feel that, but I will say that guilt is the only emotion I process fairly normally, lol).

I thought Sabiplz was bad for very bad reasons, and I learned my lesson about misunderstanding cultural differences. I thought they were steering, I thought they were self meta-ing way too much (that, for me, is a baddie tell, a big baddie tell, but not for Sabi obvs). I thought they may have killed Marmot to garner some civ sympathy for themselves since they were obvs super simpatico w/Marmot.

As an aside, now I am thinking Marmot was NKed to isolate Sabi a bit if Lucy was bad. If you look back at Sabis posts, Lucy was trying to meld with Sabi a bit imo.

Anyhow, I compressed days 1/2 mentally and assumed Golden had checked Lucy, but I read back and see he was vouching for her waaaaay before that. So therefore, I either think he was NOT an info role and I read into him, or he was blocked Night 2 and got no results. Or since he was vouching for her day 1, maybe if he was a cop role, he didn't check her at all

And now, reading today, he seems to be backing off of that town read of Lucy. So I went back and realized this started on Day 1, before an info role could have checked anyone.

This is from day one, and I'm a nub

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:41 pm I don’t think a vote for Lucy is the way to go today.

So I can't sort Golden until I sort Lucy. My gut has been saying "WOLF WOLF WOLF" from the start, and will keep it up until one of us is gawn, baby, gawn.

My heart has been telling me this is Goldens town game, but I really need to sort this, so he goes into the PoE until I do. Also to keep in mind, if Golden is civ (and bad Golden is more tentative, less assured he's right, so I think he likely is a civ) and Lucy is not, I bet his vote (and maybe Dennis' vote since she's glommed onto him so hard) have probably never been blocked and probably aren't now. Mine might be, Scottys might be.

Imma read back some more, and get that rainbow in a bit.

And before Rondo asks, I have no idea who a wolf Lucys partner would be. I don't think it's Golden, his defense of her would have been too hamfisted if he were bad.

tl;dr

Lucy wolf read is also in my iso

now to read this ungodly post at this ungodly time

If you think the doc case is made up and Golden hard defended sean and sean isnt saying no then he is just on borrowed time till real doc flips and then two wolves go down hard back to back. Also you have to ask why real doc isnt trying to murder seanzie. Now Seanzie trying to flip me so aggressively isnt the best move as well because eventually I Will go over and then he will be in deep shit and then Golden and him will have to double down on defending each other (in the world they are w/w) so its a really bizarre play. Might work but its unlikely

There could be a world where seanzie is town and golden is wolf (for defending lucy if i pre-flip her wolf) but then seanzie should be targeting golden for hard death because then he would be wrong on who the night save is and claiming it so boldy in thread means that seanzie would have a difference check on golden but that isnt the case so until someone counter claims or seanzie tries to kill golden I am just saying its true that seanzie is doc and golden was the night kill

if you dont know Sabi its hard to not just scumbucket her

That said if Lucy is wolf and Seanzie is just sticking to his guns so hard that he is seeing red and wolves holstered the kill and golden claimed doc saved him (This is assuming all the planets aligned and its even legal to holster in this format) then golden could still be wolf. But that is an edge case I cant even think about till I see the lucy flip and then another kill after that. But yeah in that case Seanzie is still town because doc would CC and hard death tunnel seanzie and he would be dead before FX

Basically as long as Golden and Seanzie keep sticking together and no Doc flips I lose this game to them and you go over SVS every time. Because I think you are in a good place to deep wolf (Golden is too, but he has a shield and you dont)

Answer me this. Who is goldens partner if not Seanzie? If you cant put any other name next to it right now just look elsewhere and try to flip them. If you can put a name next to it. great lets kill that name then look at golden when we have more information

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:37 am These are in alphabetical order within the groupings, no real hierarchy. I don't like Rainbows in general, and haven't made many. So it's a shitty rainbow from a shitty rainbow maker.

Dennis
Scotty
Seanzie


fingersplints
Neon
RondoDimBuckle
Roxy


Golden

falcon45ca


lucy

I spent ALOT of time watching Dennis play after that Wilgy vote, I didn't care what his Mom said, and I don't think he's coached, he seemed to come into his own *in* the thread, not come into the thread that way, as if he was coached. Also if bad he would not have made that "RIP MOM!" post that way lol.

I know Scotty is not playing the same game as Game 1, but he's flying solo here and we have given him a lot less to work with datawise. There was that pocketing talk earlier, but I am not sure why Scotty would need to pocket me. Don't always agree, but everything he says seems to be coming from the right place.

I was on the other side of Seanzie day one when he thought I was bad, and I really believe he thought I was bad. That was not manufactured, he meant it. So he can't be bad. This is how PoE works, yes?

I went back and forth on Neon. I don't understand the vote info, and, unlike Kate I was not so sure Jack was good. But seeing Mata/Vivax flip bad, I think she would have tried to keep him engaged and helped him acclimate, I now think it is as Kate said, and maybe all of this overwhelmed him a bit. I know I was overwhelmed in my first game and i was like over 40 ha ha. So if I think Jack was not necessarily bad, nothing Neon has done makes me think that either.

Splints and Roxy are a less clear sort for me. I have felt Roxy was good from the get go, she's got that zen civvie vibe. I was less sure on Splints. The only thing keeping Roxy out of top group is her insistence that Splints was civvie. Like I believed Kate was civvie, but I don't know that I would have flatly said she WAS civvie. But it's semantics, and I myself loathe semantics as a hook, so meh. But I feel better about Splints than I did. So i grouped them together. As they should be.

I have never played with falcon. Can someone point me to a case that was made? He's right in the middle of my pack, and if I'm missing something I'd like to know what it is. He had that sketch association from Matas posts, with the light
waffles, but then pretty much everything she said was a waffle. Personally, I would rather elim Lucy since this will, I think, bring some clarity to the thread.

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:45 am i want to post my thoughts so far, while I have a minute. They are definitely not deep thoughts, but how deep can they be on day 1?
New players get a pass, until later in the game. Absent players, as well.
if I don't mention you, its because I have you as town for now.

Falcon45ca- I didn't find it suspicious that you chose someone quickly because with movable votes, it seems like a lot of players throw votes around in a slap-happy fashion. then you were questioned about it, and you promptly posted quotes for why you made your vote. This looked legit to me at the time. Later it occurred to me that maybe you did all that too quickly, Pre-planned? But someone, Sabiplz, I think, said this was normal for your town game.

Soneji posted, I think, but I'll need to go back and look to make sure. ???

Lucy- so far, is reminding me of Dr. Wilgy. Too random to read, and weird posting just annoys me because I don't know what to do with it. I'd like to hear from players who are familiar with them.

Seanzie made a very risky statement for a town player to make. Or just an 'I can't be bothered' statement. Since it was preceded by an 'Ugh', I'm going with the former.

Sabiplz drew attention to his post, then backed away from it, then said she rarely voted early or often, then 17 minutes later she voted for Seanzie. None of this feels right.

Golden got a vote from Falcon, and although Falcon's reasons would not be enough to convince me to vote someone, I thought they were ok for a day 1. However after post 486 ( I think, I'll go back and check later and do an ebwop if necessary), I have Golden as town.

Marmot, no clue. I'd like to hear what other players think of him. ???

Everyone else, I have as probably town. I have no absolutes this early, but I'm watching the players above who pinged me. I'd like to hear what other players think of my not so deep thoughts, please.

I put Golden in the middle as a null and maybe it's not fair, since i would actually be very surprised if he turned up bad, either with Lucy if she is ( ) or not with her if she isn't. I don't see the same bad Golden who had a very real looking aggressive one/one with his bad teammate in Game 1 blatantly vouching for bad teammates, or blatantly clearing people on feels if town.

But like I said, I need to sort Lucy and see what he has to say about it all if she is bad.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:37 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:08 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:58 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:50 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:49 pm Marmot really did rand mafia huh

Marmot always rands Mafia but will sometimes use priv to edit flips before anyone sees them.

(as I'm not aware of the climate of this game and it's players, please note this is entirely satire)

You coming into this thread is like a cold breeze blowing in on a hot day to aerate the undercarriage under my kilt. Appreciate your energy, doc

Scotty is officially a flirty pockety pock

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:50 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:44 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:52 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:34 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:30 am

I made an assumption. I don't actually know but I'm pretty sure you just like questions. My point was I don't think you're suspicious because of that.

I learned something new here. I thought "Alignment Indicative" meant in general, like say posting a lot of OT, or asking a lot of questions, *in general* is not AI. I did not realize it is a specific thing for an individual. Like I would say "AI" in general, and "AI for Scotty" if I was comparing it to his specific meta. I've been using it wrong.

IME it means both/could mean either depending on context.

Thank you, that’s what I thought. It just seemed that Scotty was implying Dennis misused the term so it confused me.

I have mixed feels on Scotty. I know he plays a very analytical game, and there’s not much to analyze before the first elimination. So I’m low keying my expectations of him a bit until Day 2.

But he also seems to be on the same thing as Lucy re Dennis, albeit on a lesser scale. That bothers me a bit. Sabiplz said she thinks Scotty’s buddying me. I didn’t get that feeling. We just finished a game where we we both town, and he low key suspected me pretty much the whole game. So I was just thinking that having just watched me closely in that game, he had a better feel for my town game.

But I also know I can be susceptible to that, so her saying it makes me more aware to watch for it.

Scotty feels pockety thus far, to both myself and Wilgy

Both of these live quite early in the falcon iso. Initial gut check is this is a good look for scotty (assuming falcon flips wolf).

falcon's town, belive that.


I have inside information

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:15 am

Soneji wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:51 am Current suspects :

Seanzie
Matahari
lucy


sabi to a lesser extent, but I've liked their posting outside of their interactions with Marmot

Boy I hate that we ended on soneji instead of matahari on day three (sorry soneji, still my biggest regret). It's quite possible he had 2/3 here, and we helped the wolves with their dirty work if so.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:51 am I genuinely cannot think of one. The best I can come up with is that wolves skipped the kill to get the doc to self-identify but that’s poor value.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:48 am If Dennis if mafia I don’t think it takes until day four to kill Kate tbh.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:26 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:15 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:13 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.

In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.

Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.

Fingers is def POE yo

Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?

I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty


But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.


Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?

I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.

Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:11 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:04 pm Nooo Kate I’m sorry to see you go

Yeah, but are you?


Would Maf Scotty be so bold as to kill someone given heat to his slot?



Hmmmm...maybe

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:59 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:52 pm I did also think the target could be me again just so people could get some relief from all my tapping.

Would your read of the game change if you knew you were never targeted for a kill?

Not substantially, but my read of Seanzie might because if he didn’t doc save me his posting that day about sheeping me is mighty suspicious.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:52 pm I did also think the target could be me again just so people could get some relief from all my tapping.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:27 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:19 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm Yeah, I thought Kate would be the target last night. Felt it in my bones.

that means u have a correct understanding of gamestate, what's your poe

Pretty sure I’ve had a good grasp on gamestate all game. I’m still convinced the wilgy wagon is clean and I think that’s why I was targeted for death night 2.

I will be shocked and stunned if Falcon is not matas partner and that’s definitely my preferred elim today as it was yesterday. Finding the third in the group is the trick, for me.

I hope it’s scotty, who I’ve had town vibes on but never a good reason to remove from the PoE. If it’s not, I’m a bit lost to be honest. I’ll have to relook at people I’ve eliminated.

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:10 pm Hooray for mafia kill! Rip mom lol

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:10 pm Hooray for mafia kill! Rip mom lol

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:06 pm What does everyone think of Golden?

Can I have some gun to head reads on him?

How was he so sure he was saved? How did he know Vivax was the vanilla baddie?

I have questions, and my towncore is pretty much one person, maybe two. Yeah, two.

I thought about it and I decided I don’t think Jack was bad, so Neon prolly isn’t either.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:46 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:35 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:33 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:31 pm But I don’t disagree that vivax does more to resolve a lot about the game.

And it doesn’t look like vivax/Falcon counterwagons are happening.

I’m walking back the idea of competing wagons until we can elim at least 1 wolf. Too much chance for tomfoolery to tie the vote with 2 people stripped of theirs.

Yeah that just occurred to me too. Snap, you can have a townread for this.

I‘ve read 20 pages and the fresh ones since sub and think he has been rather obvious town.

Maybe I‘ve read him quicker, or maybe you‘re scum lol.
(Or maybe I have TMI lolol)

Feeling silly today. Might spawn a new plane of existence or something.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:43 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:38 pm Scotty, your wool is looking lush today.

thanks

my wife ordered some shampoo online and it came as a conditioner + shampoo 2-in-1 and it’s making things really shiny

Only the best for you babe

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:38 pm Scotty, your wool is looking lush today.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:35 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:33 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:31 pm But I don’t disagree that vivax does more to resolve a lot about the game.

And it doesn’t look like vivax/Falcon counterwagons are happening.

I’m walking back the idea of competing wagons until we can elim at least 1 wolf. Too much chance for tomfoolery to tie the vote with 2 people stripped of theirs.

Yeah that just occurred to me too. Snap, you can have a townread for this.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:31 pm But I don’t disagree that vivax does more to resolve a lot about the game.

And it doesn’t look like vivax/Falcon counterwagons are happening.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:57 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:05 am Hey remember when I said don't consolidate on a wagon it's just gonna kill a town we need two competing wagons and than for the 2nd day in a ris we had a run away wagon kill a town.

Yeah i remember when I said that.

I do remember you saying this and me in my og ways thinking - No. But I am an adult and can sometimes admit I was wrong. I do not like new things and ways of doing mafia though I am willing to try them.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:14 am ok lying in bed now and looking back

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:24 am @Roxy come back and play with me! I miss you

Gosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:03 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:57 am again no one engages while I'm here . Idk when I'll be back but sometime before elimination's end.

I feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me

I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!

Never again I mean it this time as I am so sick of people down on the way I play because I don't make a 100 posts a day saying:
XXXX Is a wolf
But this is my meta ask XXXX
When is eod
I'm cute
How old are you
Where in the *uck did you find those beets Dwight?
You dig?

FYI splints is not bad I will NOT vote for her.

****************************************************************************************

I am a low poster. I have never denied being a low poster. Being a low poster does mean I am not reading and keeping up.
Am am deffo not lhf as I consider myself more like a bunch of happy carrots. So I am more in the mud vegee's. imv for those of you who adore abbreviations.

The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread. We are all people with feelings this game can get heated ---------why add to it?

Takes one 'fn second to be kind people.

I will now finish re-reading make my post and call this done.

Questions/posts I noticed so far:

Scotty said I seemed aggressive which I find funny as I am imv. What exactly in a post can you point me at to show my "aggression"?

Neon - welcome but you obv haven't read as much as you say you have. I have never been on a wagon nor voted in this game yet. Had you actually read the thread (and not just my posts but the hosts as well) you would have seen I self voted D 1 bc of a robbery at my work. I host voted D 2 bc of the Host punishment of self voting was to lose my vote. But actually if you read any of my posts I clearly state suspicions. Sorry if you don't like my style and want to lynch me for being imv I am used to it. Happens all the time on this site. However I do like you info then analysis of the voting thus far. So thanks for doing the leg work on that.

I don’t know what imv means.

I think….and even looking at this post especially, your *tone* is what comes off as aggressive to me. It might be a difference in mistranslation of text not conveying the correct emotion but “The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread” is pretty prickly and mildly passive aggressive at best.

I’m not condemning you for being emotional- that’s pretty human, and doesn’t make me think any less of you. If anything, I believe your frustration. Whether or not I think this is a frustrated civ feeling left out as a “bunch of happy carrots” as you call it or a wolf that is being suspected for unfair playstyle prosecution I don’t know.

But I’m not discounting you as civ. Not at all, and not because you’re a low poster

IMV - It was right in my post you supposedly read so I bolded and enlarged it for you <3 I am sorry if you find it aggressive. I only have bits of time to play and I get uptight about low poster talk. While I *am* a low poster I do feel like I contribute in my own fashion. But someone did say "fucking Roxy" the last day phase which I forgave but it did stick in my craw. I want to thank you stating "not bc I am a low poster". I appreciate the sentiment.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:47 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:08 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:45 pm I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.

*sighs*


One second to be kind.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:25 pm What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I don't deserve a break bc I posted today, I only deserve a break if my post says something you agree with.

falcon - I like his style tbs I do feel good vibes about his posts, I do not always agree with what he says but I am not getting the vibe that his susp are coming from a bad place.

splints - she is townie bc of her haphazard style is in full swing when she is bad she does NOTHING haphazardly. She is all over the map and wanting to save herself screams townie splints. When bad she is more of - you will be sorry at days end/ you have got me so wrong/ you cannot read me/ have we ever played together before vibe.

Neon already posted about them see previous post.

Mata - I feel those who want to give her pass (hell I am one of them). She is just not as in depth as normal - due rl I believe. I feel like I have never read her right as she comes at the game from a completely random angle that I have never fully understood but she is a brilliant player. I am just not sure here. All I can say idk.

Scotty - I said before his game feels diff than the anni g 1 I read along with. Not sure if it is the gym or his hikes I believe we only played together once or twice and it's been awhile since I have played but he just does seem to be as engaged as normal.

Soneji - a fellow low poster and I have read their posts but I am not sure what to make of them. I am not one to led around by other players stating ---- that's their meta/ that's nai/ when they played as a wolf they did this ---- I like to make my own mind up. GTH I would say civ.

Not sure I got anywhere in my head with this post but you asked and I wanted to answer even if it was to someone else.

I like this post,

Not because I agree with most of the conclusions but because she seems like she does. Which is more important on the whole. I really like the acknowledgement of Kate not writing her off as scum just because she posted.

I would say to the splints point: I personally wouldn’t describe Splints’ play this game up to this point as haphazard. It seems more cards close to chest and vague.

And to your point about me: that’s fair. I’m definitely not as in depth in general as I was in Anni. I’m definitely slacking in post count, but then again I hadn’t started a new job taking up my time during anni. It is what it is.

I hadn't realized you started a new job I know how demanding that can be. But I was looking forward to your way of thinking bc it helped me form susp in the Anni 1 game I read but did not play. So far I am still very unsure of you and do not like that feeling.

This is splints - haphazard - I say this knowing she has 2 young kids and a husband she looks after all the while in London while her entire family is stateside. I know she is overwhelmed rn so her play style is overwhelmed/haphazard. She is vague a lot of the time when she is civ mostly bc she never reads the first page of any game and she probs isn't reading the entire thread - just honing in on things she looks for like mentions and whatnot. That is her civ game. Her baddie game has more oomfph bc while she won't read page one she will keep up with the thread entirely - not just mentions and whatnot.

And I thought it was Golden that was trying to give me a pass not Kate - maybe both I just do not think it is fair to everyone else playing. I don't want to be judged bc I am a low poster I want to be judged on what I am posting if that makes sense.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:15 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:42 pm [VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

why? I will not allow a low poster I *know* is town to be elimmed. You went from doming Neon all day to this in the blink of an eye.

Ok Roxy. That’s a big statement.

There’s not a single chance you believe splints could be bad here?

I have known splints since 2004. I *know* her. Could she be pulling the wool over my eyes - yes she is one hell of a player - but I like to think I could still read her baddie game even if it has been a minute since I've played. I feel 99% sure splints is town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:23 pm Whh, reading Vivax's selected quotes makes me want to vote Golden.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:57 am I am here and have 10+ pages to read. Life made it impossible to be here at all yesterday, for that I apologize.