The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:10 am
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:57 am What a great game Golden and TH. I'll never trust either of you again but thats ok.
I hate rolling bad for this reason. It screws my ability to build trusting town cores for ages. But, you know, when I actually am town it's still worth trusting me!

That TH dude though - he's seriously dodgy

You can forget about ever building a Town core with me, my friend. In fact, should I ever find myself in a game here with you again, don’t be surprised if you’re my Day 1 policy lynch...

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:21 am Sorry for deceiving you glorf. I could never have let you be alive at the end to have to make the call. When you subbed out we were very close to killing you because I was asking my team to. I felt so mean!

I’m sure you are...

I see the game is over...? Congratulations to the Mafia team and especially to [mention]Golden[/mention] - you seem immensely happy with your win - as you should be - I hope you wear that winning game banner with pride.

Thank you Daisy for allowing me to play your game, it was a pleasure and if nothing else, I’m proud to be able to say that I was part of it for that reason

Thank you to most everyone else who was part of this game. It’d been quite some time since I last played here and it was nice to re-connect with you again. As I once again disappear into obscurity, I wish you all the very best - in Mafia as in life

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:46 am One last thing...

Because of being blocked at work, I know that I realistically have to curb my mafia posting behaviours significantly, and I had to anyway. I'm way too busy. This could be the last game where I'll post anywhere near this number of posts (it's why I was willing to give up my tell now). I said I was 'probably retiring' earlier in this game. The truth is I don't think I can fully retire, I have to hang around and play the odd game (World Asunder, eg). But I know I have to become a new golden. My life is just becoming too complicated.

For this reason... I feel like this casing could be the last time I'll get to do proper casing. It feels cathartic.

Yes, I'm being overdramatic. I'm sure it will still happen on the odd occasion. But, yknow... that was an hour and a half I don't regret spending. Because I've enjoyed my supatown ways over the years and if this is the last time, I enjoyed it!

OK, now I'm done for the night.

But I don’t want a ‘new Golden’. I’ve become far too fond of the current version... .

Question without prejudice:

@s[mention]speedchuck[/mention] From my observation the consensus all game so far has been that you are Town. May I please ask you (or anyone else for that matter) to elaborate for me the grounds upon which this assumption is based? Thank you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:09 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:02 pm Mac you need to be able to read posts and know when I'm mocking somebody or ironically using their words against them. lol.

Could a TH CFD possible take off here? @ Golden?
Maybe. But the fact is that you're trying to get Faraday lynched and have gone about it in a way that makes you look like you are trying very hard to save Marmot.

Intriguing proposition...

EBWOP I have no idea where that disgusting coloured font came from...

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:50 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:47 pm @MacDougall : Is my former position aboard the Bonnie Mae still available?
Of course.
Then, I accept my former position aboard the Bonnie Mae (which incidentally, I never surrendered).

I personally don’t agree with Cap’s action here yesterday but I respect his right to do so. I’ve come to peace with his decision based on the knowledge that he would have had the welfare of his crew at heart.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:50 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:47 pm @MacDougall : Is my former position aboard the Bonnie Mae still available?
Of course.

Then, I accept my former position aboard the Bonnie Mae (which incidentally, I never surrendered).

I personally don’t agree with Cap’s action here yesterday but I respect his right to do so. I’ve come to peace with his decision based on the knowledge that he would have had the welfare of his crew at heart.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] : Is my former position aboard the Bonnie Mae still available?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:44 am Captain Golden (The Genius of The Syndicate) has become disgruntled and fired his entire crew.

@speedchuck
@Glorfindel
@Marmot
@Dragon D. Luffy

You are all now free agents. If you don’t find a new position by the end of the poll, you will not be allowed to post during N4 and will be on the Day 5 lynch poll. Good luck!

I refuse to be fired. I don’t accept this. I am appealing this decision on the grounds that Cap was under intense duress at the time of making this decision and hence it was invalid (there is ALWAYS grounds for temporary incapacity in these things). I will remain on board the Bonnie Mae with my Captain thank you very much.

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:46 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:36 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:45 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:41 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:29 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.
Here is where I discredit Glorfindel, just for fun.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:57 am I’ll confess, I’m a little conflicted about the poll as it is at present. The TH wagon itself looks kinda OK but I can’t quite fathom why friend Turnip Head is a wagon in the first place. If I was TH (Captain of a ship) and was Mafia and I knew that we’d have a potentially limited poll today (effectively 6 but it could’ve been less) I think it’d be a pretty ballsy (read idiotic) move to put myself on the poll as my team’s representative. Mind, I’m perplexed why he would do that if he were Town...?

Wilgy? OK, I’ll agree that mention of Dan’s is not a good look but on its own, I’m not sure how conclusive it is. I find the fact that Epi dropped that vote on Wilgy as he did and then promptly disappeared back into the inky void to be a trifle disconcerting.

Selecting someone from this list today is something of a conundrum...

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.
You say you didn't "buy" what I said about DrWilgy, but the above is the only comment you made about him in relation to that post. You said you agreed that the Sokoth mention was not good for him, but other than that, you said nothing about not "buying it." Might be the closest you've ever come to having told a lie, Glorfy. I'd love to have you on the dark side.

As far as I can tell, Glorfindel, you haven't voted for a single person to be lynched. You didn't vote Day 2. You didn't vote Day 3. I don't think you voted Day 1. Why not?

I'm going to be honest with you now: If you want to have a go at me for my vote, you need to be voting too. Calling Golden honorable means nothing to me. Saying you are a civilian means nothing to me. Helping a crew with a mission means nothing to me. None of it means anything to me if you don't vote to kill somebody.

So don't proclaim being a civilian. That doesn't help. Voting helps. Every Day. Even if it's for me.
Thank you Epi. You’ve proved my point. Even I wasn’t convinced by Dan’s reference to Wiley. “Not a good look” is nowhere near the same as the approach you took - being so convinced that Dan’s remark was evidence of Wilgy’s alignment that you chose to throw your vote on Wilgy then and there (if my memory serves me correctly. I called your approach disengenious and you trying to defend that here just makes it look more so. And no, I’m not going to vote to lynch someone I don’t think is bad - not even if you’re on their wagon. I will however happily vote for someone I do think is sus...
You called me "disconcerting" on Day 3, not "disingenuous."

Lie #2 Glorfindel.

I had more to say about Wilgy than what Sokoth said, but you're not here to vote out mafia anyway, so...
No, I called you disingenuous...
Spoiler: show
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:33 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:23 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:17 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:07 pm

You are having me on, are you not?
No?
I’m not saying that you are wrong in the application of your logic and the conclusions that you’ve drawn but I fear that you are failing to keep an entirely open mind to what is happening in this game, my friend.
I don’t understand what you’re seeing. Can you be more clear?
Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so. Yeah, it’s been an age since I’ve played here but my recollections of having played with Epi are still strong. The Epi I remember would never have accepted so blindly such a disingenuous case brought up by anyone else so why was he satisfied to do so himself on this occasion? Where is that laser-like analysis of which he is capable? Where in fact IS he? He’s barely posted. Why is no one talking about him? He’s one of the best and most experienced players on this site. I don’t know about you but I smell a very big, stinky rat...
You called a case disingenuous Day 4. Not Day 3, when Wilgy was still alive. When Wilgy was still alive, you called my activity "disconcerting." You never voiced a strong opinion against a Wilgy lynch, and now you're coming in here acting like you knew better even though you said nothing to defend him. I searched your posts. I know what you said and when.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:36 am I don’t mean to appear at all rude but may I ask why you’re still here? I think I’ve got a pretty good grasp of the prominent players on this site and to be honest, if I were Mafia, I’d consider having ‘Town Epi’ running free would be an unacceptable risk and NK the first chance I got. Just goes to show, the players that have been Nk’d seem harmless in comparison.
I don't mean to appear rude either, but if you were mafia, you wouldn't have the luxury of killing me, because I would have had you lynched Day 1 when you wouldn't say the magic words.

On the one hand, you've called me out for not being around, for "[accepting] so blindly a disingenuous case," (which was, my own case, and since I'm a civilian, it was decidedly not disingenuous), and now you're calling me out for not being dead.

Go on and marinate on that for a minute.

That is correct. I DID call a case disingenuous Day 4 - YOUR case against Dr Wilgy to be precise. I never voiced concern against a Wilgy lynch you say?

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:21 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:23 pm What if there's no bad guys on the poll
This very thought is starting to worry the living daylights out of me.

Very convenient you overlooked that, my friend. The way I see things is this: I know ‘Town Epi’. I’ve played many games here with ‘Town Epi’. I know how insightful and incisive and well considered are the conclusions of ‘Town Epi’. Sir, you’re no ‘Town Epi’.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:45 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:41 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:29 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.
Here is where I discredit Glorfindel, just for fun.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:57 am I’ll confess, I’m a little conflicted about the poll as it is at present. The TH wagon itself looks kinda OK but I can’t quite fathom why friend Turnip Head is a wagon in the first place. If I was TH (Captain of a ship) and was Mafia and I knew that we’d have a potentially limited poll today (effectively 6 but it could’ve been less) I think it’d be a pretty ballsy (read idiotic) move to put myself on the poll as my team’s representative. Mind, I’m perplexed why he would do that if he were Town...?

Wilgy? OK, I’ll agree that mention of Dan’s is not a good look but on its own, I’m not sure how conclusive it is. I find the fact that Epi dropped that vote on Wilgy as he did and then promptly disappeared back into the inky void to be a trifle disconcerting.

Selecting someone from this list today is something of a conundrum...

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.
You say you didn't "buy" what I said about DrWilgy, but the above is the only comment you made about him in relation to that post. You said you agreed that the Sokoth mention was not good for him, but other than that, you said nothing about not "buying it." Might be the closest you've ever come to having told a lie, Glorfy. I'd love to have you on the dark side.

As far as I can tell, Glorfindel, you haven't voted for a single person to be lynched. You didn't vote Day 2. You didn't vote Day 3. I don't think you voted Day 1. Why not?

I'm going to be honest with you now: If you want to have a go at me for my vote, you need to be voting too. Calling Golden honorable means nothing to me. Saying you are a civilian means nothing to me. Helping a crew with a mission means nothing to me. None of it means anything to me if you don't vote to kill somebody.

So don't proclaim being a civilian. That doesn't help. Voting helps. Every Day. Even if it's for me.
Thank you Epi. You’ve proved my point. Even I wasn’t convinced by Dan’s reference to Wiley. “Not a good look” is nowhere near the same as the approach you took - being so convinced that Dan’s remark was evidence of Wilgy’s alignment that you chose to throw your vote on Wilgy then and there (if my memory serves me correctly. I called your approach disengenious and you trying to defend that here just makes it look more so. And no, I’m not going to vote to lynch someone I don’t think is bad - not even if you’re on their wagon. I will however happily vote for someone I do think is sus...
You called me "disconcerting" on Day 3, not "disingenuous."

Lie #2 Glorfindel.

I had more to say about Wilgy than what Sokoth said, but you're not here to vote out mafia anyway, so...

No, I called you disingenuous...

Spoiler: show

I don’t mean to appear at all rude but may I ask why you’re still here? I think I’ve got a pretty good grasp of the prominent players on this site and to be honest, if I were Mafia, I’d consider having ‘Town Epi’ running free would be an unacceptable risk and NK the first chance I got. Just goes to show, the players that have been Nk’d seem harmless in comparison.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:29 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.
Here is where I discredit Glorfindel, just for fun.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:57 am I’ll confess, I’m a little conflicted about the poll as it is at present. The TH wagon itself looks kinda OK but I can’t quite fathom why friend Turnip Head is a wagon in the first place. If I was TH (Captain of a ship) and was Mafia and I knew that we’d have a potentially limited poll today (effectively 6 but it could’ve been less) I think it’d be a pretty ballsy (read idiotic) move to put myself on the poll as my team’s representative. Mind, I’m perplexed why he would do that if he were Town...?

Wilgy? OK, I’ll agree that mention of Dan’s is not a good look but on its own, I’m not sure how conclusive it is. I find the fact that Epi dropped that vote on Wilgy as he did and then promptly disappeared back into the inky void to be a trifle disconcerting.

Selecting someone from this list today is something of a conundrum...

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so.
You say you didn't "buy" what I said about DrWilgy, but the above is the only comment you made about him in relation to that post. You said you agreed that the Sokoth mention was not good for him, but other than that, you said nothing about not "buying it." Might be the closest you've ever come to having told a lie, Glorfy. I'd love to have you on the dark side.

As far as I can tell, Glorfindel, you haven't voted for a single person to be lynched. You didn't vote Day 2. You didn't vote Day 3. I don't think you voted Day 1. Why not?

I'm going to be honest with you now: If you want to have a go at me for my vote, you need to be voting too. Calling Golden honorable means nothing to me. Saying you are a civilian means nothing to me. Helping a crew with a mission means nothing to me. None of it means anything to me if you don't vote to kill somebody.

So don't proclaim being a civilian. That doesn't help. Voting helps. Every Day. Even if it's for me.

Thank you Epi. You’ve proved my point. Even I wasn’t convinced by Dan’s reference to Wiley. “Not a good look” is nowhere near the same as the approach you took - being so convinced that Dan’s remark was evidence of Wilgy’s alignment that you chose to throw your vote on Wilgy then and there (if my memory serves me correctly. I called your approach disengenious and you trying to defend that here just makes it look more so. And no, I’m not going to vote to lynch someone I don’t think is bad - not even if you’re on their wagon. I will however happily vote for someone I do think is sus...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:21 pm Golden should put himself on the poll tomorrow

I disagree. He is the Captain of the Bonnie Mae and his leadership of our crew so far has been excellent. He is consultative, collaborative and calm in his approach to our crew. Whilst not faultless, his judgement has been sound. There is no way his putting himself on this poll would be supported by the majority of our crew.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:06 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:33 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:23 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:17 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:07 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:01 pm

Who else do you think this applies to?
You are having me on, are you not?
No?
I’m not saying that you are wrong in the application of your logic and the conclusions that you’ve drawn but I fear that you are failing to keep an entirely open mind to what is happening in this game, my friend.
I don’t understand what you’re seeing. Can you be more clear?
Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so. Yeah, it’s been an age since I’ve played here but my recollections of having played with Epi are still strong. The Epi I remember would never have accepted so blindly such a disingenuous case brought up by anyone else so why was he satisfied to do so himself on this occasion? Where is that laser-like analysis of which he is capable? Where in fact IS he? He’s barely posted. Why is no one talking about him? He’s one of the best and most experienced players on this site. I don’t know about you but I smell a very big, stinky rat...

My case in point in respect of the content of Epi’s posts this game.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:02 pm I’m never closed minded, no matter how I may appear. I’m just also not pushed over by a feather.

No, Cap - you’re not but that is my very point. I feel like Epi was and I believe that is out of character for him. If this had been a different game and someone else had posted what he did, do you believe that he would’ve been so convinced as to the veracity of that case to blindly accept it and jump on board? Hell, not even I fell for that one - I think he’s far, far smarter than that.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:33 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:23 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:17 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:07 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:01 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:59 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:55 pm That question might be unfair to answer, because you can't give specifics of an ongoing game, so never mind. But let me ask you another way - do you think it's fair for me to characterise you here as quieter than you need to be?
I think you might be asking this question of the wrong person, my friend...
Who else do you think this applies to?
You are having me on, are you not?
No?
I’m not saying that you are wrong in the application of your logic and the conclusions that you’ve drawn but I fear that you are failing to keep an entirely open mind to what is happening in this game, my friend.
I don’t understand what you’re seeing. Can you be more clear?

Who was it that lit the fire under that appalling Dr Wilgy wagon? Yes, our friend Epi with that excerpt of Dan’s post allegedly implicating Wilgy. I didn’t buy it and have been proven right in not having done so. Yeah, it’s been an age since I’ve played here but my recollections of having played with Epi are still strong. The Epi I remember would never have accepted so blindly such a disingenuous case brought up by anyone else so why was he satisfied to do so himself on this occasion? Where is that laser-like analysis of which he is capable? Where in fact IS he? He’s barely posted. Why is no one talking about him? He’s one of the best and most experienced players on this site. I don’t know about you but I smell a very big, stinky rat...

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:17 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:07 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:01 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:59 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:55 pm That question might be unfair to answer, because you can't give specifics of an ongoing game, so never mind. But let me ask you another way - do you think it's fair for me to characterise you here as quieter than you need to be?
I think you might be asking this question of the wrong person, my friend...
Who else do you think this applies to?
You are having me on, are you not?
No?

I’m not saying that you are wrong in the application of your logic and the conclusions that you’ve drawn but I fear that you are failing to keep an entirely open mind to what is happening in this game, my friend.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:01 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:59 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:55 pm That question might be unfair to answer, because you can't give specifics of an ongoing game, so never mind. But let me ask you another way - do you think it's fair for me to characterise you here as quieter than you need to be?
I think you might be asking this question of the wrong person, my friend...
Who else do you think this applies to?

You are having me on, are you not?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:55 pm That question might be unfair to answer, because you can't give specifics of an ongoing game, so never mind. But let me ask you another way - do you think it's fair for me to characterise you here as quieter than you need to be?

I think you might be asking this question of the wrong person, my friend...

I don’t think I understand you people...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:11 am Golden is bad and hard defending teammates imo.

I’m sorry, my friend but I believe your assertion to not be true. I believe Golden to be an honourable man and one who would not deceive me. If you’re suggesting that he used me as some kind of ‘human shield’ last day phase, I think that’s a pretty despicable accusation. I think he knows me well enough never to betray me like that. My faith in his Towniness is unshakeable.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:57 pm Wait. Where's glory? Has he said he's not bad yet?

WTF?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:23 pm What if there's no bad guys on the poll

This very thought is starting to worry the living daylights out of me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:19 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:14 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:52 pm Here's my rainbow:

ColinIsCool
DFaraday
DharmaHelper
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
Enrique
Epignosis
Glorfindel
Golden
insertnamehere
lapluie/Mac
Lunalee
Marmot
novaselinenever
nutella
sig
speedchuck
Turnip Head
I’m sorry but I can’t make any sense of this - it looks more like a lottery result than a reads list...
What kind of lotteries do you have?

Ones just like that list - totally random with no evidence of the application of any logic or reason.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:06 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:59 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:29 am This is the requisite mea culpa/self-flagellation about SQ.

There are, to my mind, three reasons why I was resistant to suspect SQ.

1. Lack of familiarity with his gameplay. This was the first game I've been in with him in years. I simply didn't know what to expect, and my instincts were led astray.

2. For the past couple years or so, SQ, Daisy, DH, and I have regularly played together in a Star Trek chatroom game, where SQ plays our captain. I was so used to seeing him in that role, and his posts here highly resembled how he usually posts in that game, and I kinda comfortably conflated the two. Like, SQ's acting like his honorable captain dude in the Star Trek sim, therefore he's probably civilian.

3. He was on the Serenity. After the loss of Mac, (and even before) I wanted to protect my team as much as possible, because it seemed like people were hammering away at it, and our chances of winning missions seemed lower and lower as things progressed. I think that there's an impulse to townread members of your crew in this game. I fell prey to it. I'm a little worried that Golden is falling prey to it right now.

So yeah, I ballsed up. However, I think I had reasonable reasons for doing so.
I wholeheartedly endorse points 1 and 2 of this post.
We miss Corky!

Corky was a bit afraid that everyone would’ve forgotten him and that he wouldn’t fit in anymore...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:52 pm Here's my rainbow:

ColinIsCool
DFaraday
DharmaHelper
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
Enrique
Epignosis
Glorfindel
Golden
insertnamehere
lapluie/Mac
Lunalee
Marmot
novaselinenever
nutella
sig
speedchuck
Turnip Head

I’m sorry but I can’t make any sense of this - it looks more like a lottery result than a reads list...

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:29 am This is the requisite mea culpa/self-flagellation about SQ.

There are, to my mind, three reasons why I was resistant to suspect SQ.

1. Lack of familiarity with his gameplay. This was the first game I've been in with him in years. I simply didn't know what to expect, and my instincts were led astray.

2. For the past couple years or so, SQ, Daisy, DH, and I have regularly played together in a Star Trek chatroom game, where SQ plays our captain. I was so used to seeing him in that role, and his posts here highly resembled how he usually posts in that game, and I kinda comfortably conflated the two. Like, SQ's acting like his honorable captain dude in the Star Trek sim, therefore he's probably civilian.

3. He was on the Serenity. After the loss of Mac, (and even before) I wanted to protect my team as much as possible, because it seemed like people were hammering away at it, and our chances of winning missions seemed lower and lower as things progressed. I think that there's an impulse to townread members of your crew in this game. I fell prey to it. I'm a little worried that Golden is falling prey to it right now.

So yeah, I ballsed up. However, I think I had reasonable reasons for doing so.

I wholeheartedly endorse points 1 and 2 of this post.

Oh, I see INH is in the mix too? In my opinion he’s nothing like the player he was when I first encountered him in Mad Max and has grown immensely. I respect his ability and if he’s Mafia, he would be formidable. I can’t see that he’s really done anything though to deserve suspicion. Is it his activity? He’s not the kind of player to go silent because he’s Mafia - I think his activity level is entirely NAI.

I’ll confess, I’m a little conflicted about the poll as it is at present. The TH wagon itself looks kinda OK but I can’t quite fathom why friend Turnip Head is a wagon in the first place. If I was TH (Captain of a ship) and was Mafia and I knew that we’d have a potentially limited poll today (effectively 6 but it could’ve been less) I think it’d be a pretty ballsy (read idiotic) move to put myself on the poll as my team’s representative. Mind, I’m perplexed why he would do that if he were Town...?

Wilgy? OK, I’ll agree that mention of Dan’s is not a good look but on its own, I’m not sure how conclusive it is. I find the fact that Epi dropped that vote on Wilgy as he did and then promptly disappeared back into the inky void to be a trifle disconcerting.

Selecting someone from this list today is something of a conundrum...

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:09 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:23 am
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SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:28 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:40 pm How about Sokoth dude?

I just glanced over his ISO, and I still have a bad vibe about him. His contributive posts have been so far riddled with some good old fence-sitting. He went on about not liking the talks about Glorf, but ended up saying that he's someone we should look after.

Same thing about the Golden/I thing. Liking both posts, and feigning interest with a generic response to what could have been my motivation to not break the tie between Glorf/Golden.
So this is your "this is why we should lynch Sokoth" post? What else you got? This is pretty weak if you ask me. Just because I didn't come out with guns blazing and couldn't really find someone to latch onto to Wagon train into the stars you find it perfectly okay to just write me off. Nice. Hang on, let me go get my guns. I'll be right back with my own facts.

I'd like to see if you have something more substantial to back up and get a train going on me? Because right now this feels pretty weak to me.

There was a lot of talk about Day Zero Captain Vote manipulation – You along with a couple of others managed to play the “Tie Breaker” Game throughout the entire beginning of this. “I’m going to break the tie” came up more than once. When asked why you didn’t break the tie between Golden & Glorf you left it to a “Higher Power”. Really? Then you tried to play it off by removing your votes and distributing them to random other people, and you gave a weak sauce explanation. Then low and behind, blam you throw your votes around again. Manipulation much?
The flip flop on Golden was real in there. You drew him in because you “Thought his entrance was great, and then because of his antics later decided naaa he’s bad. So you go about railroading him for Captain, saying he’s “bad” essentially and then turn around and drop the hammer on someone else, and at the last minute. So happens to be me, because I didn’t provide you with any substantial substance to the conversation.
Then the pain train continues on Golden. You and him back and forth.
So now here we are coming into the next day and you just unload your vote without even a thought. On me? Throw some substance down, lets see what you got. Because from where I’m sitting, your entirely aggressive, going after people with half assed Suspicions and your arguments barely hold water. Seems like your trying to drive something.
Also looks bad from the perspective that we already lost a crewman, and now your hunting for more on my Captains Ship to weaken his position. We have a solid crew, so I can understand you coming after us specifically. But please. Bring something more substantial.

SO believe me when I say that I will be watching you. And if I continue to see you go on this course your name will most certainly be at the top of my list for a vote. Your lucky your not on it now as I would most certainly campaign to end you.

Don't take my lack of activity or silence for what you think it might be. I'm watching, learning, and I will respond once I have a case. I didn't have one that was solid before. You've made one for me, and I will admit its not 100%, but you just keep digging. You'll end up in that hole deeper than you are now.
If anybody’s interested in my two cents, I think the case against Dan (SokothQultuq) is pretty flimsy and lacks substance. His defence (above) is reasoned, rational and effective. Right now my level of interest in voting for him might be best described as lower than a snake’s belly...
> His defense is reasoned, rational and effective

That isn't what I would call a reasoned, rational and effective defense. He didn't address the point held against him, mainly his stances on you and the Colin/Me interactions. He just qualified them of "pretty weak", and then proceeded to attack my posts even though he liked at least one of them last phase (according to him), and never talked about me nor about my D0 votes before I raised my suspicions of him.

- He's lying about the timeline of my D0 votes.
- He's using an argument that he's being targeted in order to weaken his crew since they already lost a crewman. This argument doesn't make any sense. We're here to hunt baddies, not to adequate to all ships. Also, for what's worth I raised my suspicions on him before his crew had lost any member.

I can not fathom how anyone would think that this is a reasoned, rational and effective defense when he didn't address any point against him (at first), he lied and he's attacking stuff that he appeared not have a problem with prior to me calling him out. This isn't a defense. It's a no u.

@novaselinever: Is this the post to which you wanted me to respond? Seems to me you are refuting my assessment of Dan’s defence - which you are entitled to do. You’ve asked me no direct question/s here so I’m not entirely sure what it is that you are expecting from me. Would you please care to elaborate, my friend?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:39 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:21 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:45 pm Ok so nova's early case against sokoth looks legit in my book. Not finding anything from TH but apparently thats night exclusive.

So the issue is that nova showed doubt about it when sokoth wagon caught up, which could mean he wanted to distance with him but not outright bussing.

Am I correct here?
Counterpoint. Golden is right that they bussed him and in fact you are bad with both of them.
Do you believe that I made up the case on Sokoth, and bussed him?
“I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should be malleable and progressive, working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth. New ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant.”

I swear, this is probably the deepest thing I’ve ever read in any game in which I’ve played on this site...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:15 pm Ship loyalty seems to run thicker than blood atm. Prolly should have seen that coming. Tho I might need to dump sig off at the nearest dumpster planet

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:04 am
Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:19 pm I feel like a lot of the ongoing discussions are dead-ends. GTH I don't think DDL is bad, he's just being really clumsy lol. Mac is laying pretty low, but we did just start and I don't think his activity so far is indicative of alignment. Glorfindel is all over sig for what looks like nothing to me but... I remember Glorf's first game, and I believe the talk about his meta. sig has been fine.

Got a funny feeling about speedchuck but he hasn't been around a lot and I don't want to contribute to a possible pile-up. Leaving a placeholder vote on Colin for now for no good reason.
I would be okay with an Enrique lynch today. I see nothing by empty opinions in his ISO. This being a prime example.

I’m not sure that I’ve commented on this but after reading this comment yesterday, I went and ISO’d Enrique and maybe I’m just bad at this game but I couldn’t see this. I think Enrique expressed quite a few opinions of different players and I don’t know that I’d call them ‘empty’ (no, they weren’t great long litanies of cases against other players but he’s already said that he is struggling to balance his time here with us with his real life commitments). Further, I think his response here this morning has been really positive. I don’t think I can see any reason to vote him today based on what I’ve seen so far.

Also, @Golden: You won’t need to worry about a mutiny from me - I won’t EVER support that.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:31 pm effective immediately Mac will be replacing Lapluie

Also I have a migraine and want to throw up. Please bear with me.

You poor thing

I hope you’re feeling much better soon

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:52 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:41 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:39 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:38 pm Me am big smart mans. Golden crew me have ask you? Golden put Town-Glorf on lynch poll. Ask self: Why do?
We discussed this as a group you fool.
Did Glorfindel prefer to be sent to the lynch poll rather than choosing someone else? A good townie would have refused because it's counter productive to actually lynching scum
Nobody is lynching Glorf. Glorf is utter and completely unlynchable. Golden put in the poll so nobody else goes there.
I get that, but if I were Glorf and knew I was an unlynchable townie, I would have preferred someone else besides me be sent to the poll. It forces the other players to examine that person's ISO if they are a lynch option, and we may find something we missed.

I’m sorry but I don’t understand this remark at all. Yes, Golden suggested that I would be an appropriate choice for the poll seconds before I was going to post to suggest the very same thing. What conclusions can be drawn from this?

Golden’s motivation: He believes our team is 100% Town and sees this as a legitimate strategy to protect them. I don’t have any problem with that.

My motivation: I will do what I can to help protect my Captain and my team. I would take a bullet for him and probably them - although it looks like the risk of that is low. It’s pretty obvious I’m going to be a prime NK target so while I’m in the game I want to do what I can to help my team win.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:52 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:37 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:21 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:06 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:13 am Turnip Head
Dr Wilgy
Dharmaplayer
Enrique
Insertnamehere
Glorfindel

Leaving Lapluie out of this beautiful rainbow list. I wouldn't lynch there though since she's getting replaced.
You know, I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t think you can be Mafia, my friend. If you were teamies with anyone with any experience around here they’d surely have convinced you of the folly of trying to argue that I’m bad under the circumstances where I have claimed Town. You can say that you’ll disregard my meta but it if you’re Town, it makes no sense to do so. You can go back and read my previous games and they will corroborate what everyone here is telling you 100%. Your only argument then, is that I’ve abandoned my approach to these games (that I’ve been playing for years) just to maybe win this game as Mafia. Why on earth do you think I’d do that? You honestly believe that I would put winning this game ahead of my long held principles? If you’re Town, you need to get on board with the rest of us and abandon this stubborn, bull-headed approach that you’ve adopted or you’ll hand the real bad guys this game on a platter.
It make sense to discard it when everything you've said or "done" so far is pointing towards the opposite. I put done in brackets because you haven't done anything. What was the point of you claiming your alignment if it weren't to give us a trustworthy player to bounce ideas off, to guide the thread and attempt to solve the game? I've played with players with truth-metas before, and they wouldn't claim their alignment unless it was become a speaker role from which other players could seek inspiration from. What have you done since claiming? Jack-shit. No-u'd Sig. Awful defense of the only baddie flip. Why did you not come back to me about Sokoth when I called you out on your post?

Or did you claim your alignment so you could coast all game?

I'm Town and if you want a Town read, earn it. The approach I adopt is printed on the only baddie lynch we have so far, so I'm not sure how it'll hand the "real bad guys" the game on a platter.
I was wrong about Dan - I’ll put my hand up for that. I don’t know how to break this to you but Town often gets it wrong because they don’t actually know who is Mafia and who isn’t. I have experience of Dan from the Star Trek SIM. Whilst that probably is not an experience that should hold much water in this game, he truly is a nice person and I was viewing what he did and said here in that light. I wanted to believe he was Town. You’ve played with players who have truth-metas before? Great! But I’m not them. You seem to be suggesting that (as Town) you find me uncooperative? Maybe you need to consider your approach. Your tone is kinda belligerent and I don’t think you’re going to find anyone particularly collaborative with a tone like that. It sounds to me like you’re desperately trying to lynch me when you know the truth - if you’re Town, your stubbornness could cost us the game.
All right, that's a start. Could you explain your post about his defense? That is actually one of my main problem with you, since I couldn't fathom your view of his big no u post. Different planets.

No, I seem to be suggesting that you're contribution to game-related content so far is non-existent with the exception of the Dan stuff. You do not have to be collaborative with me to contribute to the game.

I apologies for my tone, but that's just how I post. I don't harbor any ill will lol. I'm having fun and it's just the game. I just post like that when I suspect with someone. Most of my other posts are often light.

Claiming that I know the truth isn't the way to go if you're trying to reason with me and make me understand your truth-meta. It's pretty bad. The only truth I know is that I'm not liking what your play so far, and I'd lynch you over that.

I'm a strubborn fellow, so you'll have to excuse me for that. It hasn't costed me much when I'm invested in a game, so I'm good thank you. You already know what to do, if you want me view you in another light.

Very well, you apology is accepted. And yes, under the circumstances I’ll do my best to accommodate your stubbornness. I am a reasonable man. Also, I will try to find some time tomorrow to specifically address your request. It’s after midnight here and I’m tired. A goodnight to you All!

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:21 am
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:06 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:13 am Turnip Head
Dr Wilgy
Dharmaplayer
Enrique
Insertnamehere
Glorfindel

Leaving Lapluie out of this beautiful rainbow list. I wouldn't lynch there though since she's getting replaced.
You know, I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t think you can be Mafia, my friend. If you were teamies with anyone with any experience around here they’d surely have convinced you of the folly of trying to argue that I’m bad under the circumstances where I have claimed Town. You can say that you’ll disregard my meta but it if you’re Town, it makes no sense to do so. You can go back and read my previous games and they will corroborate what everyone here is telling you 100%. Your only argument then, is that I’ve abandoned my approach to these games (that I’ve been playing for years) just to maybe win this game as Mafia. Why on earth do you think I’d do that? You honestly believe that I would put winning this game ahead of my long held principles? If you’re Town, you need to get on board with the rest of us and abandon this stubborn, bull-headed approach that you’ve adopted or you’ll hand the real bad guys this game on a platter.
It make sense to discard it when everything you've said or "done" so far is pointing towards the opposite. I put done in brackets because you haven't done anything. What was the point of you claiming your alignment if it weren't to give us a trustworthy player to bounce ideas off, to guide the thread and attempt to solve the game? I've played with players with truth-metas before, and they wouldn't claim their alignment unless it was become a speaker role from which other players could seek inspiration from. What have you done since claiming? Jack-shit. No-u'd Sig. Awful defense of the only baddie flip. Why did you not come back to me about Sokoth when I called you out on your post?

Or did you claim your alignment so you could coast all game?

I'm Town and if you want a Town read, earn it. The approach I adopt is printed on the only baddie lynch we have so far, so I'm not sure how it'll hand the "real bad guys" the game on a platter.

I was wrong about Dan - I’ll put my hand up for that. I don’t know how to break this to you but Town often gets it wrong because they don’t actually know who is Mafia and who isn’t. I have experience of Dan from the Star Trek SIM. Whilst that probably is not an experience that should hold much water in this game, he truly is a nice person and I was viewing what he did and said here in that light. I wanted to believe he was Town. You’ve played with players who have truth-metas before? Great! But I’m not them. You seem to be suggesting that (as Town) you find me uncooperative? Maybe you need to consider your approach. Your tone is kinda belligerent and I don’t think you’re going to find anyone particularly collaborative with a tone like that. It sounds to me like you’re desperately trying to lynch me when you know the truth - if you’re Town, your stubbornness could cost us the game.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:11 am I don't get it Glorf. Are you fundamentally opposed to ever receiving a mafia role? How do you think you would play if you were bad?

Hey, TH

You might recall G’s Mad Max game where I was Mafia and refused to confirm that I was Town - a fact seized upon by the most awesome 3J in the dying stages. I intended (from that point) to simply never make that claim again. What followed was a succession of games where I drew Mafia roles so everyone assumed (I think) that no claim from me = confirmed Mafia alignment. If I was smart, I probably would’ve adopted the same approach here this game only I hardly ever play here now and this is my first game back in a very long time - probably will be my last for an equally long time too but I figured why not claim this game? I am Town so it seemed a good idea and having done so makes me (at least) feel more comfortable about the game.

So to answer your question, yes, I HATE being Mafia. My play as Mafia is largely miserable and a lot of ‘deer in the headlights moments’. But that is not here. I have a great Captain and great teamies and I’m Town. How could I not be happy at that?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:06 am Glorf is not bad. His truth meta is absolute. I will use my vote to protect him if need be.

The feeling is mutual Oh Captain, my Captain.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:13 am Turnip Head
Dr Wilgy
Dharmaplayer
Enrique
Insertnamehere
Glorfindel

Leaving Lapluie out of this beautiful rainbow list. I wouldn't lynch there though since she's getting replaced.

You know, I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t think you can be Mafia, my friend. If you were teamies with anyone with any experience around here they’d surely have convinced you of the folly of trying to argue that I’m bad under the circumstances where I have claimed Town. You can say that you’ll disregard my meta but it if you’re Town, it makes no sense to do so. You can go back and read my previous games and they will corroborate what everyone here is telling you 100%. Your only argument then, is that I’ve abandoned my approach to these games (that I’ve been playing for years) just to maybe win this game as Mafia. Why on earth do you think I’d do that? You honestly believe that I would put winning this game ahead of my long held principles? If you’re Town, you need to get on board with the rest of us and abandon this stubborn, bull-headed approach that you’ve adopted or you’ll hand the real bad guys this game on a platter.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:25 pm I offer Dragon D Luffy a berth on the Bonnie Mae.

Speaking from the perspective of the Bonnie Mae’s unnofficial and voluntary Human Resources Advisor, have we considered the adverse impact of gender imbalance in our crew?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:37 pm Golden I like DDL too. I was about to drop sig like a baby orca for him

My apologies, I don’t understand this reference at all...?

I’ve got a wonderful guy for a Captain. Awesome teamies. Why on earth would I want to jump ship from the Bonnie Mae?

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SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:28 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:40 pm How about Sokoth dude?

I just glanced over his ISO, and I still have a bad vibe about him. His contributive posts have been so far riddled with some good old fence-sitting. He went on about not liking the talks about Glorf, but ended up saying that he's someone we should look after.

Same thing about the Golden/I thing. Liking both posts, and feigning interest with a generic response to what could have been my motivation to not break the tie between Glorf/Golden.
So this is your "this is why we should lynch Sokoth" post? What else you got? This is pretty weak if you ask me. Just because I didn't come out with guns blazing and couldn't really find someone to latch onto to Wagon train into the stars you find it perfectly okay to just write me off. Nice. Hang on, let me go get my guns. I'll be right back with my own facts.

I'd like to see if you have something more substantial to back up and get a train going on me? Because right now this feels pretty weak to me.

There was a lot of talk about Day Zero Captain Vote manipulation – You along with a couple of others managed to play the “Tie Breaker” Game throughout the entire beginning of this. “I’m going to break the tie” came up more than once. When asked why you didn’t break the tie between Golden & Glorf you left it to a “Higher Power”. Really? Then you tried to play it off by removing your votes and distributing them to random other people, and you gave a weak sauce explanation. Then low and behind, blam you throw your votes around again. Manipulation much?
The flip flop on Golden was real in there. You drew him in because you “Thought his entrance was great, and then because of his antics later decided naaa he’s bad. So you go about railroading him for Captain, saying he’s “bad” essentially and then turn around and drop the hammer on someone else, and at the last minute. So happens to be me, because I didn’t provide you with any substantial substance to the conversation.
Then the pain train continues on Golden. You and him back and forth.
So now here we are coming into the next day and you just unload your vote without even a thought. On me? Throw some substance down, lets see what you got. Because from where I’m sitting, your entirely aggressive, going after people with half assed Suspicions and your arguments barely hold water. Seems like your trying to drive something.
Also looks bad from the perspective that we already lost a crewman, and now your hunting for more on my Captains Ship to weaken his position. We have a solid crew, so I can understand you coming after us specifically. But please. Bring something more substantial.

SO believe me when I say that I will be watching you. And if I continue to see you go on this course your name will most certainly be at the top of my list for a vote. Your lucky your not on it now as I would most certainly campaign to end you.

Don't take my lack of activity or silence for what you think it might be. I'm watching, learning, and I will respond once I have a case. I didn't have one that was solid before. You've made one for me, and I will admit its not 100%, but you just keep digging. You'll end up in that hole deeper than you are now.

If anybody’s interested in my two cents, I think the case against Dan (SokothQultuq) is pretty flimsy and lacks substance. His defence (above) is reasoned, rational and effective. Right now my level of interest in voting for him might be best described as lower than a snake’s belly...

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:02 pm If crews end up being unbalanced today I'll be a defectin' to fix that tomorrow

I swear allegiance to my captain. I can’t speak for anyone else but I didn’t join the Bonnie Mae on a whim. Golden has been very supportive of me for a long time here at The Syndicate and I’m proud to be a member of his crew. I would move my vote to defend him if need be.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:45 pm Marmot accepts his position as Lord Marmot Commander of all the boats.

Are you joining the Bonnie Mae, Marmot?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:41 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:01 pmWait ... you think he’s town because he’s said he’s town? Can other people corroborate whether this is legitimate reasoning based on Glorfindel’s meta?
yeah, apparently it's just a thing he does and it's not even a weird gimmick he just never lies irl either cus he's secretly rumplestiltskin or something

I beg your pardon???

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Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:06 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:33 pm
Would I prefer someone who publicly said they saw at least two reasons I could be a mafia member to publicly explain those two reasons?

Why yes yes indeed I would very much so.
I didn't say mafia; I said scum. And for those wondering usually, I count 3p as scum. But do you guys ever get friendly 3p over here?

Tell 1: The Picture/Gif Tell (can also sometimes be called the music tell, as I use it on both pictures and music. Yes, I have in fact caught scum this way before.

DharmaHelper has used multiple Negan pictures. Subconsciously, I feel like people post pictures of villains see themselves as being the bad guys themselves. I actually did not finish watching The Walking Dead. I didn't really like Negan. Maybe if I gave him another shot he would turn out to be an alright guy, but my first impression of him made me stop watching the show. So at first, I didn't really think all too much about the Negan pictures as is it really right for me to judge Negan as I didn't take time to get to know him? But then DharmaHelper also posted a picture of Thanos. So either personally, DharmaHelper can easily relate himself to those 2 characters or subconsciously he's bad so he posts pictures of villains.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:52 pm DH is getting a fair number of votes as captain. He's gonna be all

No-one is gonna mutiny against that guy.
hmm, I seemed to have missed Sanggolden doing this too. But the Negan pictures could be a regular occurrence from DH so it could potentially be NAI. But then I still have to evaluate the use of Thanos.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:21 pm
Much thanks to those who picked me to be a captain. I put my picks in. So far the only gut read I have is DDL wants to mutiny real bad so he can chill with one of the other three captains.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:47 pm
Who wants to be on the winning crew?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:30 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:47 pm
Who wants to be on the winning crew?

It looks like I overlooked this one. TH either sees himself as a good character or I could also see this as a teammate to teammate interaction where he's indirectly calling out his scum partner, that's never his intention, obviously though.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:33 pm Epi is only voting for people who have zero votes and being silent about it.

Why?

^Also, the coffee tell can sometimes be extended to other beverages.

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 pm DH! Hang on, I got ya buddy. I found this laying around somewhere... with the proper application of this red sharpie marker.... yup... got it!

I guess this picture would depend on whether or not Soko sees Trump as a bad guy. But at first glance, I guess Soko could maybe be with DH as well. I'll need to look at this one again. It seems I missed more pictures than my first thought.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:30 pm
SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 pm DH! Hang on, I got ya buddy. I found this laying around somewhere... with the proper application of this red sharpie marker.... yup... got it!

Regina George - Mean Girls another evil character

I didn't see this one initially.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:20 am
KyungDaisy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:17 am You can just call me Scary Nuna.

But look - I'm LEE Sanggolden, not KIM Sanggolden.

Daisy is Kim Kyungdaisy.
Unfortunately, I don't know how to interpret this one.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:22 am Maybe this is the one you need:

Again, same with this one. It's hard to make out.

But once I share this tell. Pictures and music after said tell will be less effective.

I'm gonna keep quoting pictures, but I think you'll start to get it.

Hi, [mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] As it happens, I have extensive experience (professionally) in management/leadership training. The way DH described his approach to his captaincy made me cringe - it’s been proven to be generally counter-productive and would’ve expected that he would’ve been more ‘enlightened’. And I was MattyK at MU.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:33 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:04 pm DDL keeps doing and saying mad suspicious shit so its like...is he bad or is he bad at being bad.
Dear Captain @ DharmaHelper, why are you saying stuff like this? Also if you are going to say this stuff, wouldn't it be better and more productive if you proved it? Also, I'm very concerned; it seems you have done 2 scum tells from my perspective, which is a conflict of interest. Please stop being scummy.

Kindest regards,

Owner Of A Lonely Heart, a fellow passenger abroad your ship.

P.S. Currently Epi and TH are associated scum reads, so my vote might just stay where it is. There's also a chance, that you're just the 3p, as a 3p would be more worried about their own life. I guess I also may have some thoughts about why you choose this crew.

Dear Mods/Co-mods,

Is there a timer somewhere that shows when the end of the day is?

Either way, thanks.

Dear Townspeople,

I like DDL, Glorfindel, Colin, and INH

I potentially like speedychuck, nutella, and Enrique.

I'm leaning scummy on DharmaHelper, Epi, TH, and nova.

Most everyone else, I do really have any thoughts on.

Sincerely.

Owner

Idk if this was the best time for this.

I hope even though I'm not too trusting of my captain; that there will still be opportunities to become friends.

Unfortunately, this is game, and there's just certain things, behaviors, or patterns that are just really hard for me to ignore.

I want to be on a ship, but I'm also worried how mad my captain will be when he reads this.

Dear Owner,

If I’ve not said this to you before, welcome to The Syndicate

You mightn’t know me but I know you from when I used play a lot at MU. I’m very happy that have joined us here and I look forward (probably naively) to reacquainting with you over the course of this game. Take care and best of luck!

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