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by colonialbob
Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]

Epignosis wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:37 pm The Syndicate with sabie > The Syndicate without sabie
:nicenod:
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]

Honestly I feel like I owe town an apology in this one, my effort level dropped tremendously after the first couple of days and I think that's a big reason we ended up losing. A lot of that was literally not having time to post, but even when I did I just... did other stuff instead. [mention]leetic[/mention] had to carry the load all alone, and was doing a good job, that's just a heavy burden to bear.

Should've listened to my gut earlier. Never really settled on Jack as town (although he wasn't my number one suspect), but his case on me snapped it all into place. But of course, OMGUS. He played it really well.
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:20 pm
colonialbob wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:14 pm Well done, Jack. Bussing speed was the smart play and you pulled it off well.
Is that it?
:noble:
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 5]

nutella wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:52 pm the colonialist was the racist how fitting (jk bob)
daaaaaaaaaaaang

XD
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

leetic wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:33 pm
colonialbob wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:15 pm (also real talk my play here has been crap after like d2, so I can't even really argue the lynch very well. My own fault.)
Because throwing in the towel worked so well for Luna and chuck.
I'm not trying to convince anybody. I could make the case against Jack but frankly, I just got home after spending almost 11 hours at work and I'd rather eat dinner and relax. :shrug:
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

(also real talk my play here has been crap after like d2, so I can't even really argue the lynch very well. My own fault.)
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

Well done, Jack. Bussing speed was the smart play and you pulled it off well.
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] sorry for letting you down

[mention]leetic[/mention] I'll vote sabie if you prefer (still suspect jack but I'm town and it might actually be LyLo so)
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

Honestly?

My gut keeps telling me jack is bad. I've been trying to do some digging but I just... don't have the time or the effort right now, unfortunately. So I'm going to go with my gut.

[VOTE: jackofhearts2005] aubergine
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

leetic wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:05 pm
colonialbob wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:03 pm I've gone around in circles. We're mechanically clearing Audrey because she's 8 even though a) she fits the Luna scumread theory and b) fits the Sloonei kill fairly well.
Except it was rey, not scum that shot Sloonei, and the other two kills were too optimal to be RNG. Audrey is cleared.
Oh duh.
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

I've gone around in circles. We're mechanically clearing Audrey because she's 8 even though a) she fits the Luna scumread theory and b) fits the Sloonei kill fairly well.

Jack, quick recap why I should believe you're town?
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

EBWOP hate
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

Luna did GTH Audrey bad...

Why do you have leetic voting sabie?
by colonialbob
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:32 am
colonialbob wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:47 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:30 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:11 am changmymind.jpg
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So who is the wolf?
You or sabie. I have to go back and look at how the end of D1 went down but either you hard bussed speedchuck or Luna and sabie were crafty in thread. I do have trouble seeing leetic as mafia - you make good points on him, and he put forth a lot of effort doing ISOs and stuff for a guy who lost his teammates day 1 and day 2. And iirc it started n1 so it's not like it was a big shift after speed.
Have you looked at it again?
Not yet
by colonialbob
Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:47 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:30 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:11 am changmymind.jpg
Image
So who is the wolf?
You or sabie. I have to go back and look at how the end of D1 went down but either you hard bussed speedchuck or Luna and sabie were crafty in thread. I do have trouble seeing leetic as mafia - you make good points on him, and he put forth a lot of effort doing ISOs and stuff for a guy who lost his teammates day 1 and day 2. And iirc it started n1 so it's not like it was a big shift after speed.
by colonialbob
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 0]

sabie12 wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:04 pm Going with speed for now. He seemed more sketchy to me. For some reason I thought today was end of poll but yes tomorrow. Gonna go sleep forever and try to get better.
Votes speed over jack, good look as well
by colonialbob
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 0]

sabie12 wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:47 am
Lunalee wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:38 am
sabie12 wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 am Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.
Nevermind Jay and Nova. Seems like they are strong-arming everyone at the door with their check-in posts. It's simply a power show.
Oh I know they're just being silly. If they can make ridiculous accusations then I'll do the same back haha
This doesn't feel like an exchange either Luna or sabie make as w/w.
by colonialbob
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:11 am changmymind.jpg
Image
by colonialbob
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
Replies: 1685
Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 5]

Looks like a few pro-bob sentiments there...

(Although I find it humorous you're giving town points for the response to my "who wants to lynch Audrey" thing given the initial reactions to it. But you can't be w/w so either it's an honest reaction (more likely) or you're trying to buddy leetic to mislynch sabie and myself (possible but feels less likely)).
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 4]

Why haven't you added sabie and leet back?
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:56 pm First reaction: Thread says Night 4 so Rey wasn’t the wolf.

Second reaction: I ain’t even mad cause Epi said “cuss and die” several times.

Third reaction: Basically this.
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:51 pm
reywaS wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:44 pmlame
I think he did kill Sloon :haha:
I think we can kill the “think” even. Rey’s top suspect was Sloonei. He was convinced Sloonei’s suspicions of him were nonsense. Aside from a handful of posts late in the night, Sloonei was not at all his normal town self and would generally be unthreatening to the wolves. Could wolf have decided to kill Sloonei at that moment? Could wolf Audrey have rng killed Sloonei? Sure. Those are possibilities. But would Rey who was likely to be mislynched and had a clear suspect wrestle that gun and kill Sloonei? Yes. Every darn time. He’d never holster and just die. He’d never shoot anyone but Sloonei. That is the explanation.

Hats off to Rey for playing by the spirit of the rules and not even hitting an itty bitty bit that he killed Sloon. I kinda hate the vague no claiming rules a bunch of games have where how much Jay thinks is too much is maybe not what Bob thinks is too much is maybe not what Jack thinks is too much and it puts players on an uneven playing field. I like all claiming allowed with fake claims or alignments hidden by setup and I like no claiming or hinting at all period. I know it was probably tough for Rey to know that POEs were being built off incorrect information.

Rey’s flip makes me feel better about Audrey. Between the highjacked kill and then Nutella’s death, it no longer looks like rng bullets could be flying.

It makes Sabie and Leet (and Jack tbf) lose their safety net of “they never shoot Sloonei if they’re wolves” cause wolves didn’t shoot Sloonei. By default, this makes Bob look better.

But uh...my POE is still basically Bob wrong.
EBWOP
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:33 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:41 pm [VOTE: Reywas] aubergine

I like my Bob case. But after back to back isos, I liked my Rey case better.

Plus, kinda late to start a train considering our recent activity levels and where the votes stand.

If I’m tinfoiling on Bob, I’m sure he’ll forgive me when we just win. If I’m not, we can continue this tomorrow.
Sounds like someone who isn't afraid for his life. Hmm who could that be? Perhaps the person doing all the killing :grin:
If it’s Bob and Bob shoots me, I will be surprised.

If it’s any of my townreads and they shoot me, I’ll be real surprised.

If it’s Rey and he shoots me, I’m calling shenanigans.
Nah I'd shoot somebody else and be all "don't lamplighter me bro" and give you my best puppy dog eyes
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:20 pm Post 1021.

Like “Nah, it’s not ‘a group of people that included a wolf but not another wolf (Luna)’ cause Luna wasn’t on the list. You took Luna’s gth and we’re like “which of her buddies is she distancing from?” And the answer is “ColonialBob” but nobody took you accusing yourself seriously so the answer you were looking for was “Nova, Rey or Audrey.”
Ah. Yeah that makes a lot more sense.

(Except the answer isn't colonialbob because I'm town yo)
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Nah. It was based on Luna’s gth. Speed wasn’t on the list.
You say "nah" like this contradicts what I said. I literally don't understand this accusation at all.
Siren post was at Leet being like “Luna/Speed teamed cause why didn’t Luna try to get Speed lynched over herself?” I don’t know why that was ever supposed to be suspicious. All I see is you trying to discredit the Speedchuck train.
His wording was "let's look a speed, a wagon scum could've jumped on and didn't." That threw up huge flags for me, because how did he know mafia didn't vote for speed to try and save Luna? Then he clarified that by "scum" he meant "Luna" and the post made sense and I retracted my suspicion.
The last time you defended him? Explicitly, sure. Overall, not even. There’s no townie pursuit of wolf Speed or townie clearing of a player you had reason to trust. It’s soft defense the whole day.
Where is the rest of the soft defense?
You don’t see how a two vote lead is easily erased by everyone voting the lead wagon reconsidering and everyone not voting the lead wagon joining in? It’s a soft defense attempt by a trusted player to steer away from Speedchuck without being blatant enough to look bad when Speed flipped scum.
"Who is your second choice" is a bad way to make people reconsider.

You know what's better that "soft defending" and not looking bad when he flips scum? Trying to get somebody else lynched so he doesn't flip at all.
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Can you point to me trying to convince anybody to vote reywas over speed on d2?
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 2]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:28 pm
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:56 pm
colonialbob wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:33 pm nutella
jackofhearts2005
leetic

Pretend speedchuck was removed from the poll. Who are you voting for?
Wait you're saying this is me trying to get people to switch?

Cometheforkon
Combined with a bunch of preceding posts where you handwave my case on Luna+Speed, point to a wolf within a group not including Speed, siren gif Leet’s post accusing Speed, say Speed probably isn’t teamed with Luna and a following post where you at mention all the non Speed voters and encourage them to do something, yeah, that looks like you trying to get people to lynch someone other than Speedchuck.
Woah woah woah woah. There's a bunch of distortions or #fakenews here.

Pointing to a wolf in a group not including speed I'm assuming refers to my GTH reaction which was part of why I voted Luna. Like, "named a group of people that included a wolf but not another wolf" is a garbage suspicion.

The siren was for "scum could've picked up but didn't" and then he clarified he meant Luna specifically and my siren went away. Nothing to do with speed specifically.

My wording was "gut says Luna flipping is a good luck for speed but not enough to rule him out." So definitely positive but iirc that was the last time I really defended him.

I @'d the three votes on speed to ask who their second choice was, since iirc all 3 had been on him all day. I then @'d all non-voters to get them to do something. Calling for people to vote in a way that didn't mention any suspect is trying to get people to lynch not-speedchuck? At that point the votes were like 3-1-1 or something. I wanted votes down.
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
Replies: 1685
Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

[VOTE: reywas] aubergine
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 2]

colonialbob wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:33 pm nutella
jackofhearts2005
leetic

Pretend speedchuck was removed from the poll. Who are you voting for?
Wait you're saying this is me trying to get people to switch?

Cometheforkon
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
Replies: 1685
Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

I also think if you go back you'll find I didn't fight a speed lynch either. D2 I voted for somebody but didn't really make a huge or effective case that I remember, so if I'm trying to save speed I do a pretty crap job. And I end up off-wagon so I leave myself open to this exact attack endgame.

I like to think I'm not that shit as mafia.
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:24 pm
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:21 am
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:15 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:53 am
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:32 am Jackofhearts2005 for you to buy me/Luna as w/w you'd almost have to view my D1 as a bus, right? Going back and re-reading, is that how it looks?

(And that's setting aside the "would I bus D1 as scum" because Pax principle but man bussing a teammate who hadn't gotten any suspicion prior to me is... bold)
Potentially.

Speedchuck was going to be lynched D1. You resisted that. Luna disrupted the D1 status quo and became top suspect with Speed and Rey in second/third and Jack in fourth (I guess. People should call their votes).

Your case on Luna was that her reaction to the Speedchuck wagon was w/t. Luna gets bussed. You look good. If the narrative takes, Speed looks good.

So yeah, that’s a really good spot for a wolf to bus. The alternative is to probably see Speed lynched and both you and Luna look bad as a result of it.

I don’t see any reason to think it wasn’t a bus.
*shrug* ok man, you do you.

Tinfoil x-treme though.
Tinfoil is when you have an unlikely scenario that makes you suspect a player you trust.

I don’t trust you to begin with after seeing how you handled Speedchuck all game.

What you did to lynch Luna is not half what I did to lynch Speed and I’m still in your poe so don’t give me that.
Speed was getting suspicion from other people before you did, iirc

Can we at least agree each other should be last in the POE?
Yeah but after the Luna lynch, some people were trying to say Speed was town so I think my push was still important. ;)

No deal.
And I see your push on speed being a totally plausible bus attempt, since he was getting suspicion anyway and you could've gotten him lynched maaaybe a day before he would've been anyway to give yourself cred to skate through POE. A mafia team who lost a member d1 and who had a second member towards the top of a lot of lists d2 with the third also having caught a lot of heat would totally think about making that play.
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:50 am POEs (must be 3)

Jack - Rey, Bob, Audrey
Bob - Rey, Jack, Sabie
Audrey - Leet (add 2 please)
Nova - Jack, Leet, Sabie, Bob (lose 1 please)

sabie12
AudreyTheTattletail
novaselinenever
leetic
That's not my POE :noble:

Rey, leetic, jack
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:21 am
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:15 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:53 am
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:32 am Jackofhearts2005 for you to buy me/Luna as w/w you'd almost have to view my D1 as a bus, right? Going back and re-reading, is that how it looks?

(And that's setting aside the "would I bus D1 as scum" because Pax principle but man bussing a teammate who hadn't gotten any suspicion prior to me is... bold)
Potentially.

Speedchuck was going to be lynched D1. You resisted that. Luna disrupted the D1 status quo and became top suspect with Speed and Rey in second/third and Jack in fourth (I guess. People should call their votes).

Your case on Luna was that her reaction to the Speedchuck wagon was w/t. Luna gets bussed. You look good. If the narrative takes, Speed looks good.

So yeah, that’s a really good spot for a wolf to bus. The alternative is to probably see Speed lynched and both you and Luna look bad as a result of it.

I don’t see any reason to think it wasn’t a bus.
*shrug* ok man, you do you.

Tinfoil x-treme though.
Tinfoil is when you have an unlikely scenario that makes you suspect a player you trust.

I don’t trust you to begin with after seeing how you handled Speedchuck all game.

What you did to lynch Luna is not half what I did to lynch Speed and I’m still in your poe so don’t give me that.
Speed was getting suspicion from other people before you did, iirc

Can we at least agree each other should be last in the POE?
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:53 am
colonialbob wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:32 am Jackofhearts2005 for you to buy me/Luna as w/w you'd almost have to view my D1 as a bus, right? Going back and re-reading, is that how it looks?

(And that's setting aside the "would I bus D1 as scum" because Pax principle but man bussing a teammate who hadn't gotten any suspicion prior to me is... bold)
Potentially.

Speedchuck was going to be lynched D1. You resisted that. Luna disrupted the D1 status quo and became top suspect with Speed and Rey in second/third and Jack in fourth (I guess. People should call their votes).

Your case on Luna was that her reaction to the Speedchuck wagon was w/t. Luna gets bussed. You look good. If the narrative takes, Speed looks good.

So yeah, that’s a really good spot for a wolf to bus. The alternative is to probably see Speed lynched and both you and Luna look bad as a result of it.

I don’t see any reason to think it wasn’t a bus.
*shrug* ok man, you do you.

Tinfoil x-treme though.
by colonialbob
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] for you to buy me/Luna as w/w you'd almost have to view my D1 as a bus, right? Going back and re-reading, is that how it looks?

(And that's setting aside the "would I bus D1 as scum" because Pax principle but man bussing a teammate who hadn't gotten any suspicion prior to me is... bold)
by colonialbob
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
Replies: 1685
Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:36 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:10 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:58 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:37 pm

That’s not how POE works. Everyone’s in the POE until you take them out. You’ve taken Audrey out. Why?
Luna/Audrey D1 interaction
You're talking about Luna appearing to not know how old Audrey was?
Yeah (and also how she reacted to it)
Given that Audrey has made 7 posts all game, why do you think that Audrey would have revealed her age in wolfchat?

I just think a rng kills Sloonei before anybody else except Rey. That's what I keep coming back to.
Read Sloonei during that night and tell me he wasn't morphing into a town leader.
Sloonei was one of my top suspects til the moment he died.

Seems like you really had an eye on Sloonei getting ready to lead the town though. :ponder:
Put down the tinfoil dog

Ok I rescind my "no cases about yourself" rule, why should I rule you out?

(Do not say you wouldn't shoot Sloonei, because you already said you won a game on MU with that kind of maneuver so.)
by colonialbob
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Also it's not that I think she would've revealed her age in wolf chat. Do you think wolf Luna says that to wolf Audrey in thread upon finding out her teammate is 8?
by colonialbob
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
Replies: 1685
Views: 45738

Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:10 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:58 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:37 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:42 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:39 pm RIP Nutella.

7 players. Assuming a kill isn't stopped or mafia doesn't shoot inside the POE, POE needs to be 3. Mine is Audrey, Rey and then I guess Sabie, even though she's probably just town.

@colonialbob Why is Audrey not in the POE?
Convince me she should be.
That’s not how POE works. Everyone’s in the POE until you take them out. You’ve taken Audrey out. Why?
Luna/Audrey D1 interaction
You're talking about Luna appearing to not know how old Audrey was?
Yeah (and also how she reacted to it)
Given that Audrey has made 7 posts all game, why do you think that Audrey would have revealed her age in wolfchat?

I just think a rng kills Sloonei before anybody else except Rey. That's what I keep coming back to.
Read Sloonei during that night and tell me he wasn't morphing into a town leader.
by colonialbob
Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:58 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:37 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:42 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:39 pm RIP Nutella.

7 players. Assuming a kill isn't stopped or mafia doesn't shoot inside the POE, POE needs to be 3. Mine is Audrey, Rey and then I guess Sabie, even though she's probably just town.

@colonialbob Why is Audrey not in the POE?
Convince me she should be.
That’s not how POE works. Everyone’s in the POE until you take them out. You’ve taken Audrey out. Why?
Luna/Audrey D1 interaction
You're talking about Luna appearing to not know how old Audrey was?
Yeah (and also how she reacted to it)
by colonialbob
Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:37 pm
colonialbob wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:42 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:39 pm RIP Nutella.

7 players. Assuming a kill isn't stopped or mafia doesn't shoot inside the POE, POE needs to be 3. Mine is Audrey, Rey and then I guess Sabie, even though she's probably just town.

@colonialbob Why is Audrey not in the POE?
Convince me she should be.
That’s not how POE works. Everyone’s in the POE until you take them out. You’ve taken Audrey out. Why?
Luna/Audrey D1 interaction
by colonialbob
Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:42 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:39 pm RIP Nutella.

7 players. Assuming a kill isn't stopped or mafia doesn't shoot inside the POE, POE needs to be 3. Mine is Audrey, Rey and then I guess Sabie, even though she's probably just town.

@colonialbob Why is Audrey not in the POE?
Convince me she should be.
by colonialbob
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

leetic wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:02 pm
colonialbob wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:03 pm POE reywas Jack sabie

Convince me why I'm wrong (and I will not listen to cases made about yourself)
This does seem a good POE (though I might think Audrey over Jack), but I don't want this game to just be constantly lynching names off a list, as that could be an easy scum victory if scum isn't on the list. I'd want the next day phase to be much more involved.
Agreed.

So convince me why Audrey over jack. (Pointing to your previous ISO posts is acceptable, I admit I haven't fully read them but I recognize that you've done a lot of work and I don't want to ignore it)
by colonialbob
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

POE reywas Jack sabie

Convince me why I'm wrong (and I will not listen to cases made about yourself)
by colonialbob
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:34 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:31 pm
colonialbob wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:26 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:22 pm Nutella and Leet flat wouldn’t kill Sloonei.
Pax principle
I don’t remember the Pax principle but I miss playing with Pax.
"Why would mafia do X"
"So they could say I would never do X"

(Also Sloonei's scumminess was highly overrated, he was starting to supatown)
by colonialbob
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:27 pm
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Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

nutella wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:42 pm Sorry, I had my doubts at the end but it was too late to make a difference. Wish you had done more to stop it. I think it's leetic lol
Whacke
by colonialbob
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:22 pm Nutella and Leet flat wouldn’t kill Sloonei.
Pax principle
by colonialbob
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

I think part of it was the discounting the "Luna speed leetic are mafia" post - just felt a little weird and forced.

But the sabie to Eloh switch actually feels genuine to me
by colonialbob
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:14 pm I have pretty strong reason to think everyone remaining is town except Audrey and Rey.
I'm still down with Rey.

Gotta figure out why I voted reywas

(I'm good at mafia you guys)
by colonialbob
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

nutella wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:15 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:14 pm I have pretty strong reason to think everyone remaining is town except Audrey and Rey.
Audrey wasn't online during the night phase. Do you think Epi would have randomized the kill? I think she's fairly cleared.
I absolutely think he would have randomized the kill.
by colonialbob
Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Shockheaded Peter Mafia [Night 3]

Yo dog I'm town let's not do this please

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