The Syndicate

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:15 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:25 am
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:41 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:33 am ugh, I was looking at the final votes.

Nook: Belzy, Caitlin, Porscha, Spacedaisy
pyxxy: tutuu, Wilgy, Lime Coke, splints
HK: Seanzie, nook
Tutuu: pyxxy
Kate: Roxy
Baker/Lime Coke: falcon

Ok, if wolf, pyxxy could have self pres voted, but they didn't. I really think it's likely this was v/v.

HK was voted by two known civs, this doesn't tell us anything about HK's alignment.

If that's true, then neither wagon can be exclusively focused upon. I would be willing to bet, in fact, that there is two wolves at most on either of these wagons. I am heavily leaning Kate wolf right now as a missing vote. I doubt it was intentional, I don't question that something was happening in real life, but I didn't care for her first entrance and I cared even less for her entrance today.

Ok, so where does that leave me?

I'm leaning town on:
Lime Coke, Caitlin, Roxy (this one is weak, I'd still like to hear more from her), pyxxy.

Uncertain on:
Splints, Wilgy, HK, falcon, tutuu, Porscha

I'm leaning wolf on:
Kate

I'm going to look at that uncertain group in ISOs. I should be honest here though, I'm not convinced of anything, which is why they are all "lean" instead of just a read. I make no promises I won't change my mind along the way lol.
Sound reasoning means she made an argument that was thought out, not that I agree with it.
Also, when have you known me to hide as a baddie?
I don’t think you are hiding. I think the reasoning that you bought was too easy and far from the kind of play any old school player would make. Would you kill the person giving you the hardest wolf read? Would SVS? Would Roxy? Not a chance. My being bad here makes no sense, particularly to those who came up like the old schoolers. I can buy people who haven’t played with me for over a decade thinking maybe I did, but not you.

I think you are a wolf who hasn’t had time to engage and took some easy shots that I can’t buy you normally would as a civ.
I think youre misunderstanding me. I don't think youre bad. I was simply saying that she had reasons, not just a wold guess. In fact, I'd strongly argue against voting you as I've said.

Everyone should be voting hollowkatt.

Where is he? Why, if he were not bad, would he disappear after that epic breakdown and not come back? But I'm here.

why on gods green earth would I want to spend any additional time in a thread where you exist? c'mon you can't be that fucking stupid can you?
"oh gee why did HK leave the thread after blowing up must be a baddie"...
oh wait guess you must be

nah instead I'm gonna double down. don't tell me to fucking relax it's not your fucking place.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:04 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:01 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:51 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:46 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:36 pm

Aw. Adorable. This exchange is burying you.

I don't write essays for anyone, except rox cuz I'm kind of afraid of her.
aww, go fuck yourself <3
nothing makes a game shitty like railroading!
Wow, what a good sport!!!
yeah, choke on a brick it'll make the game better.
Why are you so aggro angry?
because railroading, regardless of alignment, is bullshit lazy lame AF way of playing mafia as it is inherently tilting, adds nothing to the game, and the only way to respond to it is either ignore it which just feeds the railroad, or attack the railroader which again feeds the railroad, so instead I choose a different response, calling out the player. I might still die and I might even eat a ban for it but yeah don't really give a fuck.

like you're not even bothering to respond to the initial question I asked because you're already cocksure of the direction you're headed in and regardless of your alignment it's a shitty way to play the game and a shitty way to treat people and I just don't have the patience to deal with it so I'm returning the energy.
Wait, wait, wait. I am the one treating people in a shitty fashion? ME? I think you should reread this exchange and she who was snarky and who was downright nasty.

lolololol you can't possibly be serious because omg is that some waspy pearl clutching like wtf..,

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:51 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:46 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:36 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:31 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:28 pm

Dude, that post, combined with this one, is practically a confession.
No really, all sarcasm aside, explain to me clearly and succinctly why the post you quoted when you voted for me makes me a wolf because like that shit gets said a billion fucking times per game and yet I don't recall anyone ever being wolf read for it before. So tell me Kate why is that post so wolfy you're railroading. Or are you wolfing I guess that could be the answer
Aw. Adorable. This exchange is burying you.

I don't write essays for anyone, except rox cuz I'm kind of afraid of her.
aww, go fuck yourself <3
nothing makes a game shitty like railroading!
Wow, what a good sport!!!
yeah, choke on a brick it'll make the game better.
Why are you so aggro angry?

because railroading, regardless of alignment, is bullshit lazy lame AF way of playing mafia as it is inherently tilting, adds nothing to the game, and the only way to respond to it is either ignore it which just feeds the railroad, or attack the railroader which again feeds the railroad, so instead I choose a different response, calling out the player. I might still die and I might even eat a ban for it but yeah don't really give a fuck.

like you're not even bothering to respond to the initial question I asked because you're already cocksure of the direction you're headed in and regardless of your alignment it's a shitty way to play the game and a shitty way to treat people and I just don't have the patience to deal with it so I'm returning the energy.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:36 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:31 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:28 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:13 pm

Lol. Should we stake the game on this post?

Vote [VOTE: hk] aubergine
I was unaware you suffered from skill issues. that's sad. can you write a 1000 word essay on why that post makes me a wolf? otherwise I think you're bluffing.
Dude, that post, combined with this one, is practically a confession.
No really, all sarcasm aside, explain to me clearly and succinctly why the post you quoted when you voted for me makes me a wolf because like that shit gets said a billion fucking times per game and yet I don't recall anyone ever being wolf read for it before. So tell me Kate why is that post so wolfy you're railroading. Or are you wolfing I guess that could be the answer
Aw. Adorable. This exchange is burying you.

I don't write essays for anyone, except rox cuz I'm kind of afraid of her.
aww, go fuck yourself <3
nothing makes a game shitty like railroading!
Wow, what a good sport!!!

yeah, choke on a brick it'll make the game better.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:36 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:31 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:28 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:13 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:28 pm ive almost never seen a mafia game in which the person getting killed n1 had all bad reads

however, i have BEEN IN A TON OF MAFIA GAMES in which the person dying n1 had decent reads, and THEY WERE NOT LISTENED TO, and then TOWN LOST
in my experience town seanzie, should be survive D1, is nearly impossible to eliminate. Kinda like Jack yeah? So sure, could be reads, could be SPK management. until/unless we see a flip of his outlier reads (top towns or top wolves) saying Seanzie was killed for reads isn't something you can really stake the game on.
Lol. Should we stake the game on this post?

Vote [VOTE: hk] aubergine
I was unaware you suffered from skill issues. that's sad. can you write a 1000 word essay on why that post makes me a wolf? otherwise I think you're bluffing.
Dude, that post, combined with this one, is practically a confession.
No really, all sarcasm aside, explain to me clearly and succinctly why the post you quoted when you voted for me makes me a wolf because like that shit gets said a billion fucking times per game and yet I don't recall anyone ever being wolf read for it before. So tell me Kate why is that post so wolfy you're railroading. Or are you wolfing I guess that could be the answer
Aw. Adorable. This exchange is burying you.

I don't write essays for anyone, except rox cuz I'm kind of afraid of her.

aww, go fuck yourself <3
nothing makes a game shitty like railroading!

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:28 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:13 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:28 pm ive almost never seen a mafia game in which the person getting killed n1 had all bad reads

however, i have BEEN IN A TON OF MAFIA GAMES in which the person dying n1 had decent reads, and THEY WERE NOT LISTENED TO, and then TOWN LOST
in my experience town seanzie, should be survive D1, is nearly impossible to eliminate. Kinda like Jack yeah? So sure, could be reads, could be SPK management. until/unless we see a flip of his outlier reads (top towns or top wolves) saying Seanzie was killed for reads isn't something you can really stake the game on.
Lol. Should we stake the game on this post?

Vote [VOTE: hk] aubergine
I was unaware you suffered from skill issues. that's sad. can you write a 1000 word essay on why that post makes me a wolf? otherwise I think you're bluffing.
Dude, that post, combined with this one, is practically a confession.

No really, all sarcasm aside, explain to me clearly and succinctly why the post you quoted when you voted for me makes me a wolf because like that shit gets said a billion fucking times per game and yet I don't recall anyone ever being wolf read for it before. So tell me Kate why is that post so wolfy you're railroading. Or are you wolfing I guess that could be the answer

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:08 am so @Spacedaisy @hollowkatt i could have missed it but after reading ur posts u have a lot of townreads but im not sure what ur scumreads are, do you have at least 3 ppl u think could be mafia? and u too please @fingersplints. LC i think im following along with

absolutely as soon as I think of who I can get away with wolf reading I will give you a list.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:13 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:38 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:28 pm ive almost never seen a mafia game in which the person getting killed n1 had all bad reads

however, i have BEEN IN A TON OF MAFIA GAMES in which the person dying n1 had decent reads, and THEY WERE NOT LISTENED TO, and then TOWN LOST
in my experience town seanzie, should be survive D1, is nearly impossible to eliminate. Kinda like Jack yeah? So sure, could be reads, could be SPK management. until/unless we see a flip of his outlier reads (top towns or top wolves) saying Seanzie was killed for reads isn't something you can really stake the game on.
Lol. Should we stake the game on this post?

Vote [VOTE: hk] aubergine

I was unaware you suffered from skill issues. that's sad. can you write a 1000 word essay on why that post makes me a wolf? otherwise I think you're bluffing.

what if I do this: Spacedaisy is town

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:03 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:26 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:21 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:15 pm

i think we should kill all 4

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:44 pm @Kate @hollowkatt hi friends i noticed u haven't voted yet, may i interest you in a fine old aged pyxxy vote straight from my family's vineyard? mmm the smell ... delicious ...
so I may have lost track of what day it was yesterday soz about that. Tutuu why did you want me to vote pyxxy?
i thought he's mafia but that was false alarm dw he's town
because of this:
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:10 pm ok cool pyx probably town coz he didnt kill me. i was left alive to mischop him probably

and/or daisy might be mafia. and/or fs. going with sean's reads. and/or baker/lc

[VOTE: daisy] aubergine
?

or is there something else you've found that you liked about them?
its just that + sean had pyx as top town. time to sheep. pyx is lock town for me too now. no way he kills sean here only for me to chop him today, imo. i dunno it seems bad. much better for wolf pyx to kill me and have sean defend him. i dont think i was a bad n1 kill there considering ppls reads on me and my post count. but i was left alive coz my reads were all bad i think
About the only reason pyxxy would have killed seanzie there is to lock in the reads so that someone like you would absolutely sheep them. But you seem sincere and yesterday you were really townie so meh carry on
I disagree. Im not at all convinced tutuu is sincere. She went from having me lockdown to being the first of Seanzie’s reads she would NK? I don’t believe it.

ok maybe sincere is the wrong word to use here, maybe the right wording is "seems to believe what they're saying" now as to whether or not what they're saying has any legitimacy remains to be seen and I said as much when I talked about how straight up sheeping the reads list ain't a great call until/unless we see some outlier results on that list and then we can re-evaluate.

I get what Tutuu is doing I'm just not sure I agree with how they've gotten themselves to where they are but they seem earnest in the way that they're presenting it.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:26 pm About the only reason pyxxy would have killed seanzie there is to lock in the reads so that someone like you would absolutely sheep them
but pyxxy hasnt seen me be vocal about suggesting we sheep dead villagers, or has anyone else

thinking pyx is mafia is just overthinking it

me and sean were both consensus town, me a bit more

sean had pyx as top town. i had pyx as top scum

sean died. not me

ergo i think pyx should be town here. i was left alive to mischop pyx. since i was yelling a lot yesterday that pyx is mafia
Or it's a big huge wifom.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:42 pm Like part of me likes this thought process from Tutuu and part of me is fine with rolling with this idea of yeeting in the bottom of Seanzie's list...yes I'm on it but not every POE is perfect...but there has to be something with that kill to be made there.

Possibly more flips to happen in that POE, hopefully helps build a worldview if we hit a wolf in that, and even if I'm feeling like Tutuu is towny it's still a bullet point for her if she's still alive for longer since it's been a focus from her most of this day phase thus far.

Actually probably don't do that at all since I think the re-eval'ing her own reads according to the NK is a thoughtful process that is town agenda'd because I'm sure maf would just push through that read regardless of what the person who was NK'd said.

I agree with both of these posts

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:34 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:16 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:14 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:23 pm [VOTE: daisy] aubergine

@pyxxy lead the way
Why are we voting daisy. And also beware I'm on meds today. I have ouchies.
the n1 kill had daisy hkatt fsplint baker/lc in his poe. i dont care for a particular order, ive decided im voting in there. i saw daisy had an existing vote and pyxxy voted her yesterday so i decided why not
Sound reasoning.

apparently I need to just keep reading...

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:26 pm About the only reason pyxxy would have killed seanzie there is to lock in the reads so that someone like you would absolutely sheep them
but pyxxy hasnt seen me be vocal about suggesting we sheep dead villagers, or has anyone else

thinking pyx is mafia is just overthinking it

me and sean were both consensus town, me a bit more

sean had pyx as top town. i had pyx as top scum

sean died. not me

ergo i think pyx should be town here. i was left alive to mischop pyx. since i was yelling a lot yesterday that pyx is mafia

kewl good talk lets regroup tomorrow unless ur dead.
So why daisy?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:28 pm ive almost never seen a mafia game in which the person getting killed n1 had all bad reads

however, i have BEEN IN A TON OF MAFIA GAMES in which the person dying n1 had decent reads, and THEY WERE NOT LISTENED TO, and then TOWN LOST

in my experience town seanzie, should be survive D1, is nearly impossible to eliminate. Kinda like Jack yeah? So sure, could be reads, could be SPK management. until/unless we see a flip of his outlier reads (top towns or top wolves) saying Seanzie was killed for reads isn't something you can really stake the game on.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:27 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:26 pm My b on the nook wagon tho. I did however solve his problem
What...problem was that?

the being alive problem obvs

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:24 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:21 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:15 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:13 pm HKatt and Lime Coke look the worst on a quick glance

But Daisy & Fingersplints prob look the worst...? Scumreading one of them isn't the most common read, atleast
i think we should kill all 4

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:44 pm @Kate @hollowkatt hi friends i noticed u haven't voted yet, may i interest you in a fine old aged pyxxy vote straight from my family's vineyard? mmm the smell ... delicious ...
so I may have lost track of what day it was yesterday soz about that. Tutuu why did you want me to vote pyxxy?
i thought he's mafia but that was false alarm dw he's town
because of this:
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:10 pm ok cool pyx probably town coz he didnt kill me. i was left alive to mischop him probably

and/or daisy might be mafia. and/or fs. going with sean's reads. and/or baker/lc

[VOTE: daisy] aubergine
?

or is there something else you've found that you liked about them?
its just that + sean had pyx as top town. time to sheep. pyx is lock town for me too now. no way he kills sean here only for me to chop him today, imo. i dunno it seems bad. much better for wolf pyx to kill me and have sean defend him. i dont think i was a bad n1 kill there considering ppls reads on me and my post count. but i was left alive coz my reads were all bad i think

About the only reason pyxxy would have killed seanzie there is to lock in the reads so that someone like you would absolutely sheep them. But you seem sincere and yesterday you were really townie so meh carry on

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:15 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:13 pm HKatt and Lime Coke look the worst on a quick glance

But Daisy & Fingersplints prob look the worst...? Scumreading one of them isn't the most common read, atleast
i think we should kill all 4

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:44 pm @Kate @hollowkatt hi friends i noticed u haven't voted yet, may i interest you in a fine old aged pyxxy vote straight from my family's vineyard? mmm the smell ... delicious ...
so I may have lost track of what day it was yesterday soz about that. Tutuu why did you want me to vote pyxxy?
i thought he's mafia but that was false alarm dw he's town

because of this:

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:10 pm ok cool pyx probably town coz he didnt kill me. i was left alive to mischop him probably

and/or daisy might be mafia. and/or fs. going with sean's reads. and/or baker/lc

[VOTE: daisy] aubergine

?

or is there something else you've found that you liked about them?

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:11 pm Nanook - 4 - Belze, Porscha, Spacedaisy, Caitlin
Pyxxy - 4 - Tutuu, DrWilgy, Lime Coke, Fingersplints
Hollowkatt - 2 - Nanook, Seanzie
Tutuu - 1 - Pyxxy
Kate - 1 - Roxy
Lime Coke - 1 - Falcon

Not voting - Kate, Hollowkatt

wolves trying to spew me a wolf by killing the only other person on my wagon so that's neat I guess.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:56 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:20 pm youre on my home turf. i'm more of a weirdo here because players on syndicate are better at reading people than people on mu are, so I'm much less likely to get sr'd for being a clown here, where I feel more comfortable
Oh hm, that's interesting. Seems like I'm even more out of place then with overall pretty bad reads haha
But hopefully that means this game will be easier if ppl tend to be correct more
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:44 pm why do you say that?
Because you implied there HAS to be a wolf in us, so if me, Falcon and Baker are all town, that's just very opportunistic. Your explanation on why Falcon & Baker are sus however was pretty satisfying, so I'll prob move my vote once I'm catched up
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:47 pm What makes you think all three of you are town to the point where you'd instagib me? like that's pretty damn confident.
I'm not confident? I even said that I wasn't sure both are town multiple times. How does that imply I'm confident...?

because you straight up said "if Falcon/Baker smells like TvT blast HK immediately" which to me says you've got some level of confidence there

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:15 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:13 pm HKatt and Lime Coke look the worst on a quick glance

But Daisy & Fingersplints prob look the worst...? Scumreading one of them isn't the most common read, atleast
i think we should kill all 4

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:44 pm @Kate @hollowkatt hi friends i noticed u haven't voted yet, may i interest you in a fine old aged pyxxy vote straight from my family's vineyard? mmm the smell ... delicious ...

so I may have lost track of what day it was yesterday soz about that. Tutuu why did you want me to vote pyxxy?

porscha can have a town lean, as a treat.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:08 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:03 pm Not sure about hk. I don’t understand why they got votes to begin with and their response to it seems very understated. I feel like I’d try to be chill about it like that if I was in that position and were bad.
What response...? I don't think they have replied? And they are being voted because they tried to force the lynch in me, Baker and Falcon, without much explanation

must be a new definition of the word force I'm not aware of. good to know.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:03 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:27 pm Hmmmm, Kate eh?
Indeed

I don't rlly like how she's just sitting on the sidelines asking for a summary, without rlly trying to do any solving on her own. She's just... there
It’s funny, I was just thinking this as I am reading in my catch up. I think I’ll move my vote back to [VOTE: Kate] aubergine.

I am slightly leaning town on Cait, Falcon, tutuu, and Wilgy.

Not sure about hk. I don’t understand why they got votes to begin with and their response to it seems very understated. I feel like I’d try to be chill about it like that if I was in that position and were bad.

In the end I am more familiar with Kate and I originally voted her since she had one post and wanted to encourage her to post some more. But it doesn’t feel like there is effort there I expect from her. Don’t worry about catching up Kate it’s mostly just Day 1 antics and Falcon is the only one really building a case. Just jump in and play from here because it’s probably going to come down to your gut anyway.

Honestly, there isn’t much to base anything on so it’s the best I’ve got at the moment.

Anyway, those are my current thoughts. They aren’t really worth much.

mostly I'm used to carrying wagons early in the game so I don't typically pay much attention to them. Nanook is going to vote me and park there it's a thing he's done basically since our champs game last year. Tutuu had an opportunistic vote but the rest of their content has been super townie so I don't really care about that either. Wigly is random and does whatever he wants to do, again it's just kind of a thing that exists.
Finally there's Caitlin who is what I consider the only legit vote I'm carrying as her suspicion is at least explained and understandable.

ultimately it's a 4 vote wagon with one auto, one rando, one opportunistic, and one legit vote. Not a thing I'd actually concern myself with.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:19 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:17 pm Blast this the moment there's an indication Baker & Falcon are TvT
It's funny because from my PoV, Hollowkatt now has made a situation where the 'atleast one wolf' does apply, but with Hollowkatt included, because if there's 3 townies then Hollowkatt looks very bad over it

An uncalled for 'has to be a mafia in it' isn't a very good look when it's on 3 townies after all-

So Hollowkatt, you better come with a very good explanation to avoid being the D1 elim~

I said that because it's been a focus from falcon/baker for a hot minute and if they're wrong they're pushing you for what I feel are flimsy reasons indicating there may be a wolf behind the push. I lumped you in there because you're the one they're focusing on.
What makes you think all three of you are town to the point where you'd instagib me? like that's pretty damn confident.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:16 pm Hollowkatt and Nanook also realistically prob contains a mafia; both make a read once in a blue moon - usually without explanation - and also either aren't voting or still have their first vote out there

Looking at Nanook more here because Hollowkatt had a townier start. I feel like town!Nanook would have done more atp, whereas mafia!Nanook could just let this thread state be bad

Mostly D1 is about finding townies more than it is finding wolves. If I can find a list of people I don't want to kill then (assuming I'm not bassackwards) all I need to do is chop everyone else yeah?

atm I'm good with tutuu, they're obvs. Baker was a sussy baka during their catch up.
Seanzie I am withholding a read on. Mostly b/c he hasn't asked for one. I think you're probably town and if so Falcon/Baker look more sus b/c of the way they're pushing on you (lhf/fluffy basically) which when it's the bulk of the case either comes from a wolf or comes from someone who's not really grokking the game. Either way it's a place to look.

Belzy I think is also town.

Caitlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:17 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:16 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:54 pm catching up through p200 and all I learned was that Baker is a wolf.
im debating if i should continue trusting my baker townread or if i should townread hkatt here and trust him that baker is scummy. not sure whats the play

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:53 pm u could argue that baker is scum whos going for the white knight town cait play

maybe the safest play is to take away that cait is more reinforced townread and hold off on reading baker and hkatt for now
I think it's safe to say there's minimum one wolf between baker, cait, and falcon
Blast this the moment there's an indication Baker & Falcon are TvT

why do you say that?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:54 pm catching up through p200 and all I learned was that Baker is a wolf.
im debating if i should continue trusting my baker townread or if i should townread hkatt here and trust him that baker is scummy. not sure whats the play

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:53 pm u could argue that baker is scum whos going for the white knight town cait play

maybe the safest play is to take away that cait is more reinforced townread and hold off on reading baker and hkatt for now

I think it's safe to say there's minimum one wolf between baker, cait, and falcon

Belzy otoh feels townie

catching up through p200 and all I learned was that Baker is a wolf.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:53 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:14 pm maybe we should policy chop the worst player in this game
I volunteer as tribute. I suck.

Also, I just ate a loaded mashed potato bowl for dinner and it was delicious. That is all.

town

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:39 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:38 pm your first impression is fine I'm taking the piss. So generally speaking I find people who are stilted fall into two buckets. One is noob/new to forum/new to this form of mafia, and the other is wolves. I don't think you're a wolf. Mostly for vibes reasons but in a nutshell you're not posting with an agenda that I can tell and you're not reaching for weird reads/niche reasons to read people.
But I'm not a noob or new to forum (I have played MU and ToSFM) or new to this form of mafia...

so ur wolfclaiming got it

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:03 pm [VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

The team is Tutuu, Caitlin, Wilgy.

always spicy never boring

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:34 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:32 pm wow hubris much?
Uhhhh
I meannn
I'm not that good of a player or that likable of a person so all I can do is try to leave a good first impression... But it appears I left a bad one instead

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:37 pm Also Hollowkatt that was not a response to why you think I would specifically be a stilted townie

And Nanook, incase you ever plan on retracting the mafia claim; do you have any reads already?

no, it's not a response you like
your first impression is fine I'm taking the piss. So generally speaking I find people who are stilted fall into two buckets. One is noob/new to forum/new to this form of mafia, and the other is wolves. I don't think you're a wolf. Mostly for vibes reasons but in a nutshell you're not posting with an agenda that I can tell and you're not reaching for weird reads/niche reasons to read people.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:33 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:37 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:32 pm Just to start the conversation~

Tutuu's opening post felt a bit awkward, almost like they did roll mafia no matter what their post says, a shame
And Nanook just copied one, to not seem forced

So I bet if a wolf posted, the two of them have slightly bigger odds of being one
Probably, I'm notedly stilted as mafia
Y-you're agreeing? Well then, that makes it easy

[VOTE: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME] aubergine
Yeah, I'm definitely serious, I'm totally mafia and you caught me, good job!

nanook you know it's impolite to troll the noobies

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:31 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:29 pm can you be a stilted townie because I think I found one.
Ummmm
I mean it's true that I'm forcing myself to post cuz Idk what else to do & I wanna leave a first impression so maybe that causes me to be stilted-
Why do u think I'd be a townie tho?

wow hubris much?

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:29 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:14 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:14 pm maybe we should policy chop the worst player in this game
[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine
Modkill Tutuu for harmful behavior

[VOTE: zenon] aubergine for mod abuse

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:20 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:18 pm I'm a rare Dutchie that hasn't even been to the red light district
the most prude swamp german ive met

ok someone needs to beg site admins for this to be a custom title

can you be a stilted townie because I think I found one.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:52 pm I AM TOWN!

Fly, you fools
town?

is the right strategy of playing with falcon is to townread him every single game regardless of what he posts? honestly it might be. he wolfed only once, was different, was caught, died earlier. as town he's the same every time. ergo - townread falcon every game

basically yeah

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:57 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:55 pm
Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:51 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:51 pm sure. also I didn't say you were a townlean I said I liked that you were doing things
So it was a nonread?
Sus
idk what it is
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ok
Idk if a mafia would give answers that I clearly would not be satisfied with, so super tiny townlean for you

welp this is a first idk what to say

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:51 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:51 pm sure. also I didn't say you were a townlean I said I liked that you were doing things
So it was a nonread?
Sus

idk what it is

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:50 pm Yeaaaaaa

There are 2 parts of page 1. Pre-steak and post-steak

let us never speak of pre-steak again

Caitlin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:47 pm I like that caitlin is putting in some work. it's a little early but she got the right spirit
I see that you're implying I am an early townlean? Can't an excited mafia also out 2 reads?

sure. also I didn't say you were a townlean I said I liked that you were doing things

oh god that's really big I'm sorry

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:34 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:31 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:28 pm 10 readable and 4 unreadable players for me thats >rand better than the typical game
cool deal sheep party at tutuus house
bring ur famous steaks

Steak Sammiches!

I like that caitlin is putting in some work. it's a little early but she got the right spirit

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:28 pm 10 readable and 4 unreadable players for me thats >rand better than the typical game

cool deal sheep party at tutuus house

mods I'm being oppressed help

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