GAME OVER: BLUE vs. RED
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Re: Day 6- BLUE vs. RED
Because I'm letting you drive. I drive into the ditch when I take the wheel.Epignosis wrote:Why did you wait until I said anything about him to express this?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
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I don't know why. I've done poorly outside of Day 1.
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Re: Day 6- BLUE vs. RED
Because Epi has been so successful at driving us towards SVS, Marmot, and Quin?Long Con wrote:Because I'm letting you drive. I drive into the ditch when I take the wheel.Epignosis wrote:Why did you wait until I said anything about him to express this?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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I do not like this passive LC. It is unlike him. Since when does he let other people drive?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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This kind of thing irks me.thellama73 wrote:Because Epi has been so successful at driving us towards SVS, Marmot, and Quin?Long Con wrote:Because I'm letting you drive. I drive into the ditch when I take the wheel.Epignosis wrote:Why did you wait until I said anything about him to express this?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
You speak as though people aren't responsible for their own votes and that I shoulder that responsibility.
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Oh no, don't get me wrong. I don't blame you for those lynches. I just think "letting you drive" is stupid given your success rate this game.Epignosis wrote:This kind of thing irks me.thellama73 wrote:Because Epi has been so successful at driving us towards SVS, Marmot, and Quin?Long Con wrote:Because I'm letting you drive. I drive into the ditch when I take the wheel.Epignosis wrote:Why did you wait until I said anything about him to express this?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
You speak as though people aren't responsible for their own votes and that I shoulder that responsibility.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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That's fallacious thinking too. Even if I were right two out of three times wouldn't guarantee any degree of success in future lynches.thellama73 wrote:Oh no, don't get me wrong. I don't blame you for those lynches. I just think "letting you drive" is stupid given your success rate this game.Epignosis wrote:This kind of thing irks me.thellama73 wrote:Because Epi has been so successful at driving us towards SVS, Marmot, and Quin?Long Con wrote:Because I'm letting you drive. I drive into the ditch when I take the wheel.Epignosis wrote:Why did you wait until I said anything about him to express this?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
You speak as though people aren't responsible for their own votes and that I shoulder that responsibility.
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Blah blah blah so unlike LC blah.thellama73 wrote:I do not like this passive LC. It is unlike him. Since when does he let other people drive?
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Yes.Long Con wrote:Are you actually criticizing me for that when you did the exact same thing at the exact same time???
Can I have my lynch plz? I've wanted one peraon lynched since SVS and I haven't had my turn. C'moooooon.
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It wouldn't guarantee it, but neither is your probability of success random or completely independent of previous decisions.Epignosis wrote:That's fallacious thinking too. Even if I were right two out of three times wouldn't guarantee any degree of success in future lynches.thellama73 wrote:Oh no, don't get me wrong. I don't blame you for those lynches. I just think "letting you drive" is stupid given your success rate this game.Epignosis wrote:This kind of thing irks me.thellama73 wrote:Because Epi has been so successful at driving us towards SVS, Marmot, and Quin?Long Con wrote:Because I'm letting you drive. I drive into the ditch when I take the wheel.Epignosis wrote:Why did you wait until I said anything about him to express this?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
You speak as though people aren't responsible for their own votes and that I shoulder that responsibility.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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I think a big reason people haven't thought about llama was his "Golly I keep mixing up JackofHearts and notsawyer" business.
thellama73 wrote:This post is pretty flippant, but in fairness to you, I think I keep confusing you with Notsawyer, since I don't know either of you. I can't tell you apart. Please try to be more distinctive.Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Can you be more specific?thellama73 wrote:In answer to Epi's question, my vote for Quin is based on a Day 0 ping, odd, uncharacteristic behavior, which I tend to associate with baddies. I am also perturbed by Quin's unwillingness to take my vote seriously. I never really intended to leave my vote there, though. I haven't decided where to move it yet, but Notsawyer, for being wishy-washy, might get it. And JackofHearts, for being annoying and not answering questions seriously, might get it.
I don't think there's a real question I've been asked that I didn't take seriously.
Convince me you aren't just being opportunistic by saying you might vote for one of the players who already has two votes for no real reason.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Well I don't like that your avatar is what you'd get if Diablo fucked a sharptooth.MacDougall wrote:I don't like the cut of this jackofhearts character's jib. Voting there.
But I don't vote for stupid reason.
thellama73 wrote:Thank you. That does help.Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Llama
My avatar is anime demigods fighting.
Sawyer's avatar is a baseball bat, possibly named Lucille.
Does that help?
Who would you vote for if you weren't allowed to vote for players you confuse with other players?
I'm struggling with a lack of strong pings today, if I'm honest. I might vote for FZ, because I found her question about the rules contrived, like Long Con's face.
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You don't believe that. You haven't believed it all game.Long Con wrote:Blah blah blah so unlike LC blah.thellama73 wrote:I do not like this passive LC. It is unlike him. Since when does he let other people drive?
This is baddie Llama gently nibbling low hanging fruit.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Wrong.thellama73 wrote:You don't believe that. You haven't believed it all game.Long Con wrote:Blah blah blah so unlike LC blah.thellama73 wrote:I do not like this passive LC. It is unlike him. Since when does he let other people drive?
This is baddie Llama gently nibbling low hanging fruit.
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Is it like you to confuse two completely different people with very different avatars and names, and one of those happens to be bad?thellama73 wrote:I do not like this passive LC. It is unlike him. Since when does he let other people drive?
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When they are people I haven't played with before, yeah it kind of is like me. It takes me a while to learn new people.Epignosis wrote:Is it like you to confuse two completely different people with very different avatars and names, and one of those happens to be bad?thellama73 wrote:I do not like this passive LC. It is unlike him. Since when does he let other people drive?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Llama confusing players isn't weird to me. I've done that lots of times with players I'm unfamiliar with.
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Clearly this is some buddying.DFaraday wrote:Llama confusing players isn't weird to me. I've done that lots of times with players I'm unfamiliar with.
Llama, vote DF. Cull the oppression.
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I am convinced thellama73 is bad. He campaigned hard for notsawyer, but now? Nothing. He's going after Long Con. He isn't genuine in his opinions.
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He did when his original votes for the first two days were for llama iirc.Epignosis wrote:Why did you wait until I said anything about him to express this?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
If anything LC is being consistent, and it doesn't come off as consistency for consistency's sake to me.thellama73 wrote:Didn't hesitate to grab that straw, did you, Drowning Man?Long Con wrote:Llama is very likely bad. Just through POE if nothing else, if Epi is good. A suspect of mine since way back.
I've openly suspected llama for a while now, but playing devil's advocate, more people than llama have campaigned either against people who were later revealed civ or against people who are still alive and they've changed our minds on. With respect to llama, if I was right about an attempted bus on me on day 1 to save Jack the only person left who could be blamed for it is llama.Epignosis wrote:I am convinced thellama73 is bad. He campaigned hard for notsawyer, but now? Nothing. He's going after Long Con. He isn't genuine in his opinions.
I know we all need to vote eventually, but the votes put out currently are making me nervous. All it takes is a civ putting a vote in the wrong place and mafia can tie it up. Assuming two baddies are left (and assuming they haven't voted), then we're getting pretty close to lylo. So I'm gonna wait till the morning to make my decision after I've had my coffee and my head is clear. I've reevaluated my thoughts on Wilgy and at this stage I don't think I should vote for someone just because they've been under my radar. That brings me back to DFaraday and llama, who already have a vote a piece.
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Also, I think that the people who've voted already are probably civ because I think mafia would sit back and wait for an opportunity, while civ would go with what they believe is right. I'm sure that's not correct 100 percent of the time, but I don't see any benefit to mafia voting right out of the gate at this stage in the game. Like I said, they may be able to force a tie if just one civ votes the wrong way.
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I haven't stopped suspecting notsawyer. I have been exploring other options because today is so crucial and I wanted to avoid tunneling. I fear you have been overly rash, but okay.Epignosis wrote:I am convinced thellama73 is bad. He campaigned hard for notsawyer, but now? Nothing. He's going after Long Con. He isn't genuine in his opinions.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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I would like to lynch either Sawyer or Long Con today. Will anyone join me on those votes? As much as I dislike the idea, it appears as if I will have to build a coalition if I am going to survive and save the game for the civvies.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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We really doing this again?
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I think you're civ and want to help, but I'm reading LC as genuine. I'll go ahead and vote Sawyer.thellama73 wrote:I would like to lynch either Sawyer or Long Con today. Will anyone join me on those votes? As much as I dislike the idea, it appears as if I will have to build a coalition if I am going to survive and save the game for the civvies.
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Ugh, I just realized Sawyer's the only person besides you who hasn't voted, so that really didn't help at all.DFaraday wrote:I think you're civ and want to help, but I'm reading LC as genuine. I'll go ahead and vote Sawyer.thellama73 wrote:I would like to lynch either Sawyer or Long Con today. Will anyone join me on those votes? As much as I dislike the idea, it appears as if I will have to build a coalition if I am going to survive and save the game for the civvies.
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Right, so here's the situation I'm in. If I vote for Sawyer, he will vote for me, I will die and the civilians will lose.
If I vote for Wilgy, Epi, or LC, at best Sawyer's vote will tie things up and there will be no lynch, but more likely he will vote for me, I will die, and the civs will lose.
That means I have to vote for Faraday and hope two things. 1. That Faraday is bad, and 2. that Sawyer breaks the tie in my favor.
I am not at all convinced that Faraday is bad, but I know I am not, so it's my only option.
Sawyer, I know we have had a contentious game, but I swear to you I am not the droids you are looking for. Do the right thing.
If I vote for Wilgy, Epi, or LC, at best Sawyer's vote will tie things up and there will be no lynch, but more likely he will vote for me, I will die, and the civs will lose.
That means I have to vote for Faraday and hope two things. 1. That Faraday is bad, and 2. that Sawyer breaks the tie in my favor.
I am not at all convinced that Faraday is bad, but I know I am not, so it's my only option.
Sawyer, I know we have had a contentious game, but I swear to you I am not the droids you are looking for. Do the right thing.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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I sure do hope Sawyer isn't bad
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Sorry it took so long to get in here. Had trouble falling asleep last night so I slept in.
This is a tough decision, and one I don't take lightly. I don't want to blow it for the civs. I'm especially troubled by faraday's vote, and I have a hard time believing that he didn't know what he was doing.
Gonna put on another pot of coffee and think it over with a smoke.
This is a tough decision, and one I don't take lightly. I don't want to blow it for the civs. I'm especially troubled by faraday's vote, and I have a hard time believing that he didn't know what he was doing.
Gonna put on another pot of coffee and think it over with a smoke.
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Think about the case against me while you're out there. There is none. Epi voted for me because I didn't gun for you hard enough today. Long Con voted for me because reasons. I've been actively baddie hunting this entire game. It sucks to get offed so late in the game when you've put so much effort into it.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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OK, so here's my thought process. It's down to two people who've been gunning for me for a while. One of them has been doing it without providing any form of justification by my recollection; and that's DFaraday. Then today he came in after I said that I thought the first two votes placed were civ votes and placed his vote on me to place me in this position. I think it was part of some odd plan to set me up if I lynched llama and the NK got blocked, and I'm not walking into that trap. I hope I'm doing the right thing.
Vote DFaraday.
Vote DFaraday.
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Woo!! Finally.
I have no regrets.
I have no regrets.
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You have chosen wisely, Sawyer. Well done.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Why is this post ominous?thellama73 wrote:You have chosen wisely, Sawyer. Well done.
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Because it reminds you of the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, which is an ominous scene.DrWilgy wrote:Why is this post ominous?thellama73 wrote:You have chosen wisely, Sawyer. Well done.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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I hope so too.notsawyer540 wrote:OK, so here's my thought process. It's down to two people who've been gunning for me for a while. One of them has been doing it without providing any form of justification by my recollection; and that's DFaraday. Then today he came in after I said that I thought the first two votes placed were civ votes and placed his vote on me to place me in this position. I think it was part of some odd plan to set me up if I lynched llama and the NK got blocked, and I'm not walking into that trap. I hope I'm doing the right thing.
Vote DFaraday.
I never thought this would be so frustrating for me, but it has been. I feel like I've done nothing but go in circles looking at the same stuff over and over.
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MOST PEOPLE ARE REALLY NICE
RACHEL MADDOW: Here's the thing about political scandal. For some strange reason, anytime a Democratic politician is caught up in either a real or imagined scandal, it stays in the news. Like all the time. When Republicans get caught up in a scandal, there's this momentary spotlight where everyone gets to see them for the values-toting hypocrites that they are and then? Nothing. The Republican resigns from whatever position they were in and other news takes front and center.Case in point: disgraced ex-Senator Ted Cruz. While his federal investigation is still ongoing and exposing other members of this farcically-named Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, you wouldn't know how big a deal this was because it keeps getting overshadowed by other things. Like former Clinton advisor Sidney Blumenthal and Operation Cobalt member and former Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz disappearing on the same day, despite being under elite government protection.
Does Ted Cruz and his fact-based, results-producing trial matter when people can report on missing persons and conspiratorial whodunits? Apparently not. Does Cruz ratting out what appear to be low-level supporters in his attempt to obstruct the President amount to news when the Podesta emails lead to family drama in the White House? Nah. It's way more important these days to elevate gossip-column non-critical issues to headline news. While it may be newsworthy to share that Chelsea Clinton has left the White House after another wave of John Podesta's emails reveal even nastier things Hillary's staff said about her last year, the media's obsession with covering this story sucks all the fun out of watching Ted Cruz squirm under the microscope.
This, among other things, is just another reminder that life just isn't fair.
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Shit. Sorry guys.
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I regret nothing.
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Re: Night 6- BLUE vs. RED
Two baddies left, and they're within notsawyer, Llama, and Wilgy. I'd say Llama and Wilgy, but WTF do I know? Nothing. Unless someone has some sort of protection, the baddies have already won. Oh well.
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I'm sorry, DFaraday. I was put in a position where I had to lynch you if I wanted to stay alive. I never really thought you were bad, but I hoped I was wrong.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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For the record, I think the two remaining baddies are Notsawyer and Wilgy.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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