MAD MAX: GAME OVER

[a2thezebra]

My only worry re Eloh is that it would be easy to set her up as a fall guy with an Epi NK. Super easy.

I brought this up earlier. JJJ and MP were the ones to point out that she would benefit from Epi being dead Night 1, and I think that's worth noting.

Worth noting how so? I mean, how does it influence your perceptions?

Well like just now when I mentioned pointing it out earlier that you two were pointing that out earlier, both you and him distanced yourself from pointing it out by saying that you didn't include it in your cases against her. This is true, it's just funny that you seem like you need to disown your statement of her benefiting from Epi being dead Night 1.

[Tangrowth]

I don't suspect motel room for moving his vote around.

I'd say it's slightly more town-indicative than not, assuming of course that one finds his indecisiveness genuine.

[MacDougall]

This is turning into Captain America Civil War I think lol.

I would like you to ask yourself to what end does Ricochet's post such as the below serve from a civilian perspective?

Did I say I am?

You've got nothing to fret about anymore, you can kill whomever you like now, nobody gives a damn.

What a hollow finger-waggy statement to make, right after the very post in which I clearly stated I would

Further to that, Ricochet proceeded to read two players I have a Mafia read of and appeared to give them a Mafia read. Spirityo and Glorfindel.

All thought process that Ricochet has made outside of anything to do with me on day 2 are almost concurrence with my own, aside from his OMGUS reaction to Zebra. So why is he clinging to a Mafia read of me. His logical progression should be rendering a civilian read of me. But he is clinging to it. I consider this reflective of an extreme level of insincerity.

It would not surprise me to find that he has made those two reads of wilgy, lorab, spirityo and glorfindel as legacy in case of his death because one of them, or both, are on his team. In fact it makes a lot of sense that he seemingly randomly chose some players to do that with. I would say he has done that rather intentionally.

I also have mafia reads of sprityo and Glorfindel though, and I know I'm not the only one. And why would Rico's congruence with you naturally indicate that he should evaluate you as a civilian? I think it's possible to agree with someone on suspects and yet still find that person a suspect, as a civilian, right?

Possibly yes, common no.

[a2thezebra]

*yourselves

linki - Why didn't he state any of those votes in the thread?

[Tangrowth]

My face when sanmateo and BWT are both bad.

Lol, that'd be the worst.

[S~V~S]

A tie is a no lynch, right? So we are one vote from that now.

Linki @MP, with all due respect, my opinion is still my opinion. You knowing him better does not make it invalid.

[a2thezebra]

Goddammit INH

It's like we finish each others sandwiches.

[Tangrowth]

My only worry re Eloh is that it would be easy to set her up as a fall guy with an Epi NK. Super easy.

I brought this up earlier. JJJ and MP were the ones to point out that she would benefit from Epi being dead Night 1, and I think that's worth noting.

Worth noting how so? I mean, how does it influence your perceptions?

Well like just now when I mentioned pointing it out earlier that you two were pointing that out earlier, both you and him distanced yourself from pointing it out by saying that you didn't include it in your cases against her. This is true, it's just funny that you seem like you need to disown your statement of her benefiting from Epi being dead Night 1.

I'm not disowning it at all; I'm emphasizing that it is not even remotely close to the reason I am mafia reading her, because it is not. It was merely conjecture, which is how it should be treated, primarily spoken because others were already conjecturing (such as Mac) that others (such as Jay) had the most reason to kill Elo. I disagreed, so I said so.

[G-Man]

Since you all gave me no chance to pre-write, the lynch post will take a few minutes to whip up.

[Tangrowth]

A tie is a no lynch, right? So we are one vote from that now.

Linki @MP, with all due respect, my opinion is still my opinion. You knowing him better does not make it invalid.

That's all well and good, but it just appeared to me like you didn't even read what I said, especially given I sort of emotionally opened myself up there, so it bugged me a bit. Sorry.

[a2thezebra]

My only worry re Eloh is that it would be easy to set her up as a fall guy with an Epi NK. Super easy.

I brought this up earlier. JJJ and MP were the ones to point out that she would benefit from Epi being dead Night 1, and I think that's worth noting.

Worth noting how so? I mean, how does it influence your perceptions?

Well like just now when I mentioned pointing it out earlier that you two were pointing that out earlier, both you and him distanced yourself from pointing it out by saying that you didn't include it in your cases against her. This is true, it's just funny that you seem like you need to disown your statement of her benefiting from Epi being dead Night 1.

I'm not disowning it at all; I'm emphasizing that it is not even remotely close to the reason I am mafia reading her, because it is not. It was merely conjecture, which is how it should be treated, primarily spoken because others were already conjecturing (such as Mac) that others (such as Jay) had the most reason to kill Elo. I disagreed, so I said so.

I'm just saying what it looks like to me. Time will tell what's closer to the truth.

[a2thezebra]

Since you all gave me no chance to pre-write, the lynch post will take a few minutes to whip up.

Hey, my vote didn't budge for the entirety of the day.

[Tangrowth]

My only worry re Eloh is that it would be easy to set her up as a fall guy with an Epi NK. Super easy.

I brought this up earlier. JJJ and MP were the ones to point out that she would benefit from Epi being dead Night 1, and I think that's worth noting.

Worth noting how so? I mean, how does it influence your perceptions?

Well like just now when I mentioned pointing it out earlier that you two were pointing that out earlier, both you and him distanced yourself from pointing it out by saying that you didn't include it in your cases against her. This is true, it's just funny that you seem like you need to disown your statement of her benefiting from Epi being dead Night 1.

I'm not disowning it at all; I'm emphasizing that it is not even remotely close to the reason I am mafia reading her, because it is not. It was merely conjecture, which is how it should be treated, primarily spoken because others were already conjecturing (such as Mac) that others (such as Jay) had the most reason to kill Elo. I disagreed, so I said so.

I'm just saying what it looks like to me. Time will tell what's closer to the truth.

Oh yeah, and that's why I asked. I know you're not me so you have to judge what I say within the confines of the game, that's what you should do. I just wanted to make my thoughts on the matter clear, that's all, especially since it is the mafia's job to misrepresent civilians to make them easier to lynch.

[Tangrowth]

In stark contrast to EoD d1, this has to be the most intense EoD I've participated in since... a long time ago.

[S~V~S]

A tie is a no lynch, right? So we are one vote from that now.

Linki @MP, with all due respect, my opinion is still my opinion. You knowing him better does not make it invalid.

That's all well and good, but it just appeared to me like you didn't even read what I said, especially given I sort of emotionally opened myself up there, so it bugged me a bit. Sorry.

I tend/try to blow off emotional content. I found that based on the person making it, it either makes me trust them OR (and this is more likely) makes me think they are being manipulative. So it was not my intent to dismiss your opening up. It is just how I tend to read things.

[Tangrowth]

Oops, I forgot about showing you a few Elo quotes, zebra. Let me try to do that quickly here.

[Tangrowth]

A tie is a no lynch, right? So we are one vote from that now.

Linki @MP, with all due respect, my opinion is still my opinion. You knowing him better does not make it invalid.

That's all well and good, but it just appeared to me like you didn't even read what I said, especially given I sort of emotionally opened myself up there, so it bugged me a bit. Sorry.

I tend/try to blow off emotional content. I found that based on the person making it, it either makes me trust them OR (and this is more likely) makes me think they are being manipulative. So it was not my intent to dismiss your opening up. It is just how I tend to read things.

That's totally fair, thanks for elaborating. Sorry again, I didn't mean any antagonistic tone either if it came across that way. I just wanted to emphasize the intention / content of what I was saying, but I shouldn't have assumed that you didn't thoroughly consider what I said anyway.

[a2thezebra]

My only worry re Eloh is that it would be easy to set her up as a fall guy with an Epi NK. Super easy.

I brought this up earlier. JJJ and MP were the ones to point out that she would benefit from Epi being dead Night 1, and I think that's worth noting.

Worth noting how so? I mean, how does it influence your perceptions?

Well like just now when I mentioned pointing it out earlier that you two were pointing that out earlier, both you and him distanced yourself from pointing it out by saying that you didn't include it in your cases against her. This is true, it's just funny that you seem like you need to disown your statement of her benefiting from Epi being dead Night 1.

I'm not disowning it at all; I'm emphasizing that it is not even remotely close to the reason I am mafia reading her, because it is not. It was merely conjecture, which is how it should be treated, primarily spoken because others were already conjecturing (such as Mac) that others (such as Jay) had the most reason to kill Elo. I disagreed, so I said so.

I'm just saying what it looks like to me. Time will tell what's closer to the truth.

Oh yeah, and that's why I asked. I know you're not me so you have to judge what I say within the confines of the game, that's what you should do. I just wanted to make my thoughts on the matter clear, that's all, especially since it is the mafia's job to misrepresent civilians to make them easier to lynch.

[Tangrowth]

Oops, I forgot about showing you a few Elo quotes, zebra. Let me try to do that quickly here.

Lol, I'm having trouble just picking a few because my perspective runs throughout nearly her entire ISO. I guess our difference in perspective will be proven accurate or inaccurate based on a flip at this point, unless you want me to continue to try to elaborate. I just don't think it'll be a worthwhile use of time at this point.

[Tangrowth]

Oh yeah, and that's why I asked. I know you're not me so you have to judge what I say within the confines of the game, that's what you should do. I just wanted to make my thoughts on the matter clear, that's all, especially since it is the mafia's job to misrepresent civilians to make them easier to lynch.

Holy shit, seeing that creeped me out.

[a2thezebra]

Oops, I forgot about showing you a few Elo quotes, zebra. Let me try to do that quickly here.

Lol, I'm having trouble just picking a few because my perspective runs throughout nearly her entire ISO. I guess our difference in perspective will be proven accurate or inaccurate based on a flip at this point, unless you want me to continue to try to elaborate. I just don't think it'll be a worthwhile use of time at this point.

It's your call, I won't push you to do it.

[Tangrowth]

Regardless of what happens going forward, just know that all of you are freaking awesome and have made this game incredibly intriguing and enjoyable as hell. This has been a really solid effort from a substantial portion of our player list so far, and it's just awesome. This has been totally worth procrastinating on my paper which I'll now have to stay up all night to work on. :P

[Tangrowth]

Oops, I forgot about showing you a few Elo quotes, zebra. Let me try to do that quickly here.

Lol, I'm having trouble just picking a few because my perspective runs throughout nearly her entire ISO. I guess our difference in perspective will be proven accurate or inaccurate based on a flip at this point, unless you want me to continue to try to elaborate. I just don't think it'll be a worthwhile use of time at this point.

It's your call, I won't push you to do it.

I just feel like we need more information. It's really interpretation of behavior vs. other interpretation of behavior for us right now with respect to Elo, Rico, etc.

[MacDougall]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

[Tangrowth]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

Well, I'd agree that it's compatible with either alignment. I'm judging his behavior as town-indicative when I consider everything he has done in the thread as a whole, which does include his d1 treatment of you -- all behavior that is potentially indicative of his alignment since he had rolled it at the game's start. If that makes sense.

[a2thezebra]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

Both MP and JJJ have seemed a bit eager to me to try and make the Rico lynch about less than what it's about. This is why I kept pushing JJJ about the semantics of whether or not he understood the case against Rico, because it seemed like a potentially teammate-motivated exaggeration.

[Tangrowth]

And, that said, let me make it clear that despite agreeing with Jay extensively this phase (which I didn't really feel so much during d1), I still disagree with him on the level of confidence in my town read of Rico, among other things. I have him as a slight town read for a reason; he's certainly not my most confident read.

[Tangrowth]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

Both MP and JJJ have seemed a bit eager to me to try and make the Rico lynch about less than what it's about. This is why I kept pushing JJJ about the semantics of whether or not he understood the case against Rico, because it seemed like a potentially teammate-motivated exaggeration.

And I feel like you all have been making his behavior as much more than what it really has been. Absolute different threads we're reading here. At least his flip, even if I don't agree he should be lynched, will be potentially quite telling.

[MacDougall]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

Well, I'd agree that it's compatible with either alignment. I'm judging his behavior as town-indicative when I consider everything he has done in the thread as a whole, which does include his d1 treatment of you -- all behavior that is potentially indicative of his alignment since he had rolled it at the game's start. If that makes sense.

So you are saying that it makes sense for a civilian Ricochet to antagonise me after he dropped his policy lynch and continue to infer that I am Mafia without any reasoning for it?

Obviously there is the possibility he was just messing around to troll me, to get a rise out of me, but ultimately I interpret it as nefarious.

[a2thezebra]

And, that said, let me make it clear that despite agreeing with Jay extensively this phase (which I didn't really feel so much during d1), I still disagree with him on the level of confidence in my town read of Rico, among other things. I have him as a slight town read for a reason; he's certainly not my most confident read.

This looks like you're setting up to not be a primary target after the baddie Rico flip.

[Tangrowth]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

Well, I'd agree that it's compatible with either alignment. I'm judging his behavior as town-indicative when I consider everything he has done in the thread as a whole, which does include his d1 treatment of you -- all behavior that is potentially indicative of his alignment since he had rolled it at the game's start. If that makes sense.

So you are saying that it makes sense for a civilian Ricochet to antagonise me after he dropped his policy lynch and continue to infer that I am Mafia without any reasoning for it?

Obviously there is the possibility he was just messing around to troll me, to get a rise out of me, but ultimately I interpret it as nefarious.

It doesn't make sense. I've explained how I see it as compatible and even indicative though.

I can at least fathom why you interpret it that way, even if I think it's a less likely explanation. I still think it's plausible that his behavior is nefarious, but then again, I'd say that's possible of anyone (except me, of course).

[MacDougall]

Further to that, I find it harder to see a Ricochet who is intending to assist civilians to win the game, would so readily parlay his day 1 silliness into antaganoism and then subsequently into a legitimised read of me. It is easier for me to rationalise it as bad behaviour.

[a2thezebra]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

Well, I'd agree that it's compatible with either alignment. I'm judging his behavior as town-indicative when I consider everything he has done in the thread as a whole, which does include his d1 treatment of you -- all behavior that is potentially indicative of his alignment since he had rolled it at the game's start. If that makes sense.

So you are saying that it makes sense for a civilian Ricochet to antagonise me after he dropped his policy lynch and continue to infer that I am Mafia without any reasoning for it?

Obviously there is the possibility he was just messing around to troll me, to get a rise out of me, but ultimately I interpret it as nefarious.

Well let's say he was just trolling you. Considering it greatly outweighed his substantive contributions, that's still anti-town behavior at best.

[Tangrowth]

And, that said, let me make it clear that despite agreeing with Jay extensively this phase (which I didn't really feel so much during d1), I still disagree with him on the level of confidence in my town read of Rico, among other things. I have him as a slight town read for a reason; he's certainly not my most confident read.

This looks like you're setting up to not be a primary target after the baddie Rico flip.

If that was what I am doing, which I am not, then surely I'm not doing a good job of it, precisely due to your post right here. If that's how you interpret my behavior, so be it. I don't know Rico's alignment. I'm defending him for clearly stated reasons and my perspective. I have no knowledge of anyone's alignment but my own.

[Tangrowth]

Further to that, I find it harder to see a Ricochet who is intending to assist civilians to win the game, would so readily parlay his day 1 silliness into antaganoism and then subsequently into a legitimised read of me. It is easier for me to rationalise it as bad behaviour.

I think your perspective is inevitably colored by your position in the accusation.

[MacDougall]

MP I'm not sure why you are even considering whether his policy lynch attempt on me is alignment indicative when he made it obvious he was planning to do it before he rolled his alignment.

I am not voting for him because of that. I am voting for him for all the reasons I have already said repeatedly.

Well, I'd agree that it's compatible with either alignment. I'm judging his behavior as town-indicative when I consider everything he has done in the thread as a whole, which does include his d1 treatment of you -- all behavior that is potentially indicative of his alignment since he had rolled it at the game's start. If that makes sense.

So you are saying that it makes sense for a civilian Ricochet to antagonise me after he dropped his policy lynch and continue to infer that I am Mafia without any reasoning for it?

Obviously there is the possibility he was just messing around to troll me, to get a rise out of me, but ultimately I interpret it as nefarious.

Well let's say he was just trolling you. Considering it greatly outweighed his substantive contributions, that's still anti-town behavior at best.

This is exactly my point.

[a2thezebra]

And, that said, let me make it clear that despite agreeing with Jay extensively this phase (which I didn't really feel so much during d1), I still disagree with him on the level of confidence in my town read of Rico, among other things. I have him as a slight town read for a reason; he's certainly not my most confident read.

This looks like you're setting up to not be a primary target after the baddie Rico flip.

If that was what I am doing, which I am not, then surely I'm not doing a good job of it, precisely due to your post right here. If that's how you interpret my behavior, so be it. I don't know Rico's alignment. I'm defending him for clearly stated reasons and my perspective. I have no knowledge of anyone's alignment but my own.

Ah the ol' "I'm not dumb enough to post something I'll get called out for" defense. I need something better than WIFOM if you want to sway me otherwise.

[Tangrowth]

And, that said, let me make it clear that despite agreeing with Jay extensively this phase (which I didn't really feel so much during d1), I still disagree with him on the level of confidence in my town read of Rico, among other things. I have him as a slight town read for a reason; he's certainly not my most confident read.

This looks like you're setting up to not be a primary target after the baddie Rico flip.

If that was what I am doing, which I am not, then surely I'm not doing a good job of it, precisely due to your post right here. If that's how you interpret my behavior, so be it. I don't know Rico's alignment. I'm defending him for clearly stated reasons and my perspective. I have no knowledge of anyone's alignment but my own.

Ah the ol' "I'm not dumb enough to post something I'll get called out for" defense. I need something better than WIFOM if you want to sway me otherwise.

Your argument is WIFOM. There's no other way to defend it than with WIFOM. I've been transparent in my thoughts. If you still need clarification as to something specifically, I'd be more than happy to try to assist in explaining my perspective. Otherwise, we're just talking in circles.

[Tangrowth]

It's ironic because I've historically been mislynched all the time for posts just like the exact one you've called out here, zebra, and yet I continue to make posts like them (specifically clarifying my exact level of confidence in my reads, which is perceived as nefarious overclarifying or hedging). I apparently never learn.

[a2thezebra]

And, that said, let me make it clear that despite agreeing with Jay extensively this phase (which I didn't really feel so much during d1), I still disagree with him on the level of confidence in my town read of Rico, among other things. I have him as a slight town read for a reason; he's certainly not my most confident read.

This looks like you're setting up to not be a primary target after the baddie Rico flip.

If that was what I am doing, which I am not, then surely I'm not doing a good job of it, precisely due to your post right here. If that's how you interpret my behavior, so be it. I don't know Rico's alignment. I'm defending him for clearly stated reasons and my perspective. I have no knowledge of anyone's alignment but my own.

Ah the ol' "I'm not dumb enough to post something I'll get called out for" defense. I need something better than WIFOM if you want to sway me otherwise.

Your argument is WIFOM. There's no other way to defend it than with WIFOM. I've been transparent in my thoughts. If you still need clarification as to something specifically, I'd be more than happy to try to assist in explaining my perspective. Otherwise, we're just talking in circles.

I'm just trying to get a feel for the details of your position before the flip. What you've said is helpful regardless of which of us is right.

linki - It's more the timing of the post then the post itself mate.

[Tangrowth]

Omg, when is this flip coming... I need to go back to writing but I can't. (Don't take this as a slight against you, G-Man, I know these things take time.)

[S~V~S]

I am flipping between this and the Al Smith dinner.

[Tangrowth]

Ah the ol' "I'm not dumb enough to post something I'll get called out for" defense. I need something better than WIFOM if you want to sway me otherwise.

Your argument is WIFOM. There's no other way to defend it than with WIFOM. I've been transparent in my thoughts. If you still need clarification as to something specifically, I'd be more than happy to try to assist in explaining my perspective. Otherwise, we're just talking in circles.

I'm just trying to get a feel for the details of your position before the flip. What you've said is helpful regardless of which of us is right.

linki - It's more the timing of the post then the post itself mate.

That's entirely understandable, and you should. I welcome you all grilling me on things. That's what townie, who don't know my alignment, should be doing. I hope what I'm saying makes sense. If it doesn't, let me know. And I feel likewise about what you've said. The thread has seen a lot of potentially insightful conversations throughout this day period.

How do you mean the timing?

[Tangrowth]

I'll be right back again.

[G-Man]

NO FUN

It had been a tense day since Epignosis's car and body were found by the warehouses at dawn. Two people dead and no sign of competency from the MFP so far. The people were restless. They eyed the MFP with half-contempt. Their tax dollars paid for all their training, their toys, and their joy rides but they can't produce when it's really necessary? Yeah, that'd piss you off a little bit too.

After killing one of their own and letting the public down last night, the MFP boys were feeling the pressure to produce. Tips were flying in left and right. They wanted to take them all seriously but they were cautious not to get too physical with any of the suspects. No more accidents.

One tip seemed promising. Rather than approach him in the public square, the MFP boys approached Rick O'Shay in the privacy of his auto shop.

"Don't you boys have your own mechanics there at the Halls of Justice?" the suspect asked.

"Yep," one office replied. "We're don't need you to rotate our tires. We need you to rotate your priorities and stop causing trouble."

Another office groaned. "Really, mate? That's the best you could come up with?"

"Shove off," the first office said. "I thought it was mighty clever."

While the officers bickered over the merits of lame quips, Ricochet slipped out of the garage. When the officers finally noticed, a chase ensued. Ricochet managed to evade capture and made his way into the heart of town, where passersby stopped and stared and the fracas.

"Slippery little bastard, this one is" one office complained as Ricochet broke free from his grasp for the fifth time.

"I've had enough of this," the other officer shouted. He grabbed a tire iron and brought it down with a crack on Ricochet's skull. He wilted on the spot, landing face up on the street.

"Dammit," the other officer said, "Fifi told us not to kill this one. Who is he?"

"Isn't it obvious? I mean, we went to an auto shop. His auto shop. He ain't one of them."

"He don't exactly look like one of us though. Looks like the kind of rat that would sit on the fence and side with whoever was winning."

"Maybe, but right now we got to get him off the street. Grab his legs."

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RICOCHET has been lynched. He was the GREASE RAT.

You have until 8:00 pm US Eastern time to send me your role PM's.

Effective immediately, QUIN is replacing SANMATEO and cannot be NK'd tonight.

[a2thezebra]

Ah the ol' "I'm not dumb enough to post something I'll get called out for" defense. I need something better than WIFOM if you want to sway me otherwise.

Your argument is WIFOM. There's no other way to defend it than with WIFOM. I've been transparent in my thoughts. If you still need clarification as to something specifically, I'd be more than happy to try to assist in explaining my perspective. Otherwise, we're just talking in circles.

I'm just trying to get a feel for the details of your position before the flip. What you've said is helpful regardless of which of us is right.

linki - It's more the timing of the post then the post itself mate.

That's entirely understandable, and you should. I welcome you all grilling me on things. That's what townie, who don't know my alignment, should be doing. I hope what I'm saying makes sense. If it doesn't, let me know. And I feel likewise about what you've said. The thread has seen a lot of potentially insightful conversations throughout this day period.

How do you mean the timing?

The timing of you clarifying that your baddie Rico read isn't as strong as JJJ's right before the flip. If Rico flips bad, that distances yourself from JJJ and possibly even gives you leverage to turn against him even with as much as you two agreed.

[S~V~S]

Well if you're gonna lynch a civvie that's a good one to lynch. Sorry Rico, glad your secrets dies with you

[insertnamehere]

So Rico was an independent who only needed to be alive to win? That...makes a lot of sense. He wasn't civ-minded, that's for sure.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yeah I guess that could have turned out worse. Welcome aboard Quin. Are you going to be in the top five for posts by the end of the day? :P

[a2thezebra]

GREASE RAT: He looks out for #1 in both business and life. If he is visited (checked/targeted) by a member of the MFP at night, he will be told about it in the morning. If multiple people target him at night, he will be given a list of all their names and he will be told if a member of the MFP is among them but won't know who. If Toecutter's Gang tries to NK the Grease Rat, all of his accumulated information will be shared with them in exchange for his life. He can win with either side but he must be alive at the end of the game to win.

Based on the last part of this description he seems closer to indy than civ, which explains a lot. I'm not happy about this lynch but it could've been a lot worse.