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On our site we don't have such a rule - we believe that the players themselves should know what they're getting into if they're playing a game hosted by an inexperienced mod. Plus, in reality, it's never a big deal, because mods usually ask other mods to look their setups over anyway to make sure it's okay.
I agree completely with this.

Here we also have a Mod on Duty function to help the host (what otherwise you and other sites would call the mod) deal with conflicts, usually of a personal nature, in an arbitration fashion. But the host has full authority over constructing and running the game. Hosts can have co-hosts as well, which has been a really good way to give new hosts experience without the trial by fire of hosting alone. I'm not sure how frequent that is on other sites though.
I think it's somewhat rare. But it's super common on our site. I think it's probably been years since we had a Mish-Mash (that's what we call our big "role madness" games with a bunch of different roles) with 40+ players that wasn't hosted by several people.
Good to know. I am super excited for this Championship, but equally so for the prospect of cross-site games. I know we would absolutely love to have any number of "new" players here, especially very active ones; also, I know there would be some folks, myself included, who would love to play some games elsewhere.
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Black Rock wrote:LC is a member at MTG Salvation but didn't realize they played Mafia.

What a nerd. :haha:
You know it to be true, now what was that conversation we had? :P
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On our site we don't have such a rule - we believe that the players themselves should know what they're getting into if they're playing a game hosted by an inexperienced mod. Plus, in reality, it's never a big deal, because mods usually ask other mods to look their setups over anyway to make sure it's okay.
I agree completely with this.

Here we also have a Mod on Duty function to help the host (what otherwise you and other sites would call the mod) deal with conflicts, usually of a personal nature, in an arbitration fashion. But the host has full authority over constructing and running the game. Hosts can have co-hosts as well, which has been a really good way to give new hosts experience without the trial by fire of hosting alone. I'm not sure how frequent that is on other sites though.
I think it's somewhat rare. But it's super common on our site. I think it's probably been years since we had a Mish-Mash (that's what we call our big "role madness" games with a bunch of different roles) with 40+ players that wasn't hosted by several people.
Good to know. I am super excited for this Championship, but equally so for the prospect of cross-site games. I know we would absolutely love to have any number of "new" players here, especially very active ones; also, I know there would be some folks, myself included, who would love to play some games elsewhere.
Stay tuned for the biggest mafia game ever; 200+ people :P
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G-Man wrote:Wow, the sheer size of some of those Mafia communities is intimidating. :faint:

I recall checking out a few of the big ones years ago when I was on LP, TP, and STV. I got scared away by all the tiers and rating systems some use. Can't remember which one it was but at least one of them required you to play in so many games before you could move into more complex games and another one required you to win so many games as civ and as baddie before you could even host a game. I like hosting more than playing, so...

I like to think that TP, RM, and now The Syndicate are nice little niche locales where people like to create intricate and fun-themed games. A plain Jane game has its place every now an again but it would need a good story building with the simple events to keep things captivating for me.
Mafiascum does that. Their community is so big, the won't allow new players to hop into complex games. They must play "qualifiers" first.

That goes for the hosts too. Hosts cannot host any big, complex games until they've "paid their dues" hosting small, vanilla games with new players.
Ah, I couldn't remember which one it was. I remember them having an awesome set of tutorials and beginners guides that helped me when drafting my first few game ideas. I guess I can understand not letting newbs play with the big boys but the egalitarian in me balked. What's to say a new player isn't someone with years of experience and a top notch pedigree? I liked how LP, STV, and TP (and thusly RM and TS) welcomes and encourages new folk to jump right in. I think it's one of the best ways to learn how to play.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:I am super excited for this Championship, but equally so for the prospect of cross-site games. I know we would absolutely love to have any number of "new" players here, especially very active ones; also, I know there would be some folks, myself included, who would love to play some games elsewhere.
Heh- this was one of my idealistic goals with the Secret Mafia games. I intended for each game to be played on a different forum. Now all three that I wanted to use are gone (unless mafia still exists on LP).
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Brainden has that, too. Their big Mafia guy was someone from LP, I don't recall his name, he was no longer playing at LP when I started. They played a bit more similarly to us. Not sure if they still do play.
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Epignosis wrote:Do you have a big thingy, man?
Haha

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Thingyman wrote:
Stay tuned for the biggest mafia game ever; 200+ people :P
That sounds absolutely crazy, but awesome.
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Thingyman wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Do you have a big thingy, man?
Haha

My name has evolved over the years. Started as Thing, then Thingy, but that was too short, so Thingyman. And now MrThingyman. I'm not sure I can add more to it.
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Is Vompatti available to represent The Syndicate?
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DH&SVS, are you guys really bowing out?? :/

What about Rob/Logan? Are you guys gonna be contenduhs?
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Mongoose wrote:DH&SVS, are you guys really bowing out?? :/

What about Rob/Logan? Are you guys gonna be contenduhs?
It should probably be someone who is actually good at mafia. So Rob would be a good choice.
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I don't do well in different setting. My one game at Mafia Maniac, I got lynched Day one because I went balls to the walls (is there any other way to play Mafia?) and totally did all the things they thought were bad. They role hint, they info dump, I refused to vote for people based on that, and someone seriously asked me how we get info into the thread where we play if we don't just say it. Apparently they faux dump, and I can see the challenge in that, but once I got to that place in the learning curve, I was dead, lol.

I tried several games at K Site, and I could not wrap my head around their system. I would be honored to go, but don;t think i would be the best ambassador for us. I would probably tell someone to go fuck themselves, lol. Sooo undiplomatic :)
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This is what I told MP: I will do it, but only if no one else is able and willing.

The thought of spectating and cheering someone on sounds like fun.
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S~V~S wrote:I don't do well in different setting. My one game at Mafia Maniac, I got lynched Day one because I went balls to the walls (is there any other way to play Mafia?) and totally did all the things they thought were bad. They role hint, they info dump, I refused to vote for people based on that, and someone seriously asked me how we get info into the thread where we play if we don't just say it. Apparently they faux dump, and I can see the challenge in that, but once I got to that place in the learning curve, I was dead, lol.

I tried several games at K Site, and I could not wrap my head around their system. I would be honored to go, but don;t think i would be the best ambassador for us. I would probably tell someone to go fuck themselves, lol. Sooo undiplomatic :)
I come from that sort of background, where info-dumping and self-outing is common and normal. But now that I've adapted to the Syndicate way of doing things, I much prefer this way.

But variation is the spice of life, so going back to such ways wouldn't be bad once in a while.
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S~V~S wrote:I would be honored to go, but don;t think i would be the best ambassador for us. I would probably tell someone to go fuck themselves, lol. Sooo undiplomatic :)
I too am unnecessarily hateful and violent, especially towards outsiders (defend the fire!) so I get where you're coming from.
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I remember back when role-claiming and info dumping were common practice at LP. Usually one powerful civvie would role claim and the other civvies would try to plan in the thread how they would use their powers in conjunction to protect said powerful civ. I'm not sure when that changed. Baddies had the opportunity to false role-claim but they would either get lynched when the real civ challenged them or they would get lynched Day 2 if people believed them and lynched the real civ Day 1. Those were the days when Day 1 wasn't just 48 hours of waiting for a random lynch. I was a baddie once and got caught early but then offered up my teammates identities for immunity. That probably started the ball rolling on STV to ban role-claiming and info dumping.

I don't see the harm in role-claiming once it's obvious who you are- civ or baddie. Without role-claiming, it's hard to info dump without strongly-worded vagueness. But it also takes some of the mystery out of the game.
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S~V~S wrote:I would be honored to go, but don;t think i would be the best ambassador for us. I would probably tell someone to go fuck themselves, lol. Sooo undiplomatic :)
I too am unnecessarily hateful and violent, especially towards outsiders (defend the fire!) so I get where you're coming from.
But everyone will be an outsider in this game, so. :shrug:
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G-Man wrote:I remember back when role-claiming and info dumping were common practice at LP. Usually one powerful civvie would role claim and the other civvies would try to plan in the thread how they would use their powers in conjunction to protect said powerful civ. I'm not sure when that changed. Baddies had the opportunity to false role-claim but they would either get lynched when the real civ challenged them or they would get lynched Day 2 if people believed them and lynched the real civ Day 1. Those were the days when Day 1 wasn't just 48 hours of waiting for a random lynch. I was a baddie once and got caught early but then offered up my teammates identities for immunity. That probably started the ball rolling on STV to ban role-claiming and info dumping.

I don't see the harm in role-claiming once it's obvious who you are- civ or baddie. Without role-claiming, it's hard to info dump without strongly-worded vagueness. But it also takes some of the mystery out of the game.
Twice recently, I have been in that situation as a baddie, and it is very easy to just act the obvious baddie rather than roleclaim. Not breaking any rules that way.
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The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Black Rock wrote:
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Black Rock wrote:LC is a member at MTG Salvation but didn't realize they played Mafia.

What a nerd. :haha:
You know it to be true, now what was that conversation we had? :P

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I would also like to represent RabbitMafia.fuckyou and own everyone. :feb:

But I would not want to throw my hat in as I have not been here for a long time. I think one of you should win though.
Of course you would only win because I'm not playing. :noble:


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Mongoose wrote:Is Vompatti available to represent The Syndicate?
if that implies actually playing, no. :mafia:
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Mongoose wrote:DH&SVS, are you guys really bowing out?? :/

What about Rob/Logan? Are you guys gonna be contenduhs?
I am going to be trying to get two different certifications in 90 days starting next week. I will not have the time to do this :P

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I'd probably go if no one better wanted to step up. It kind of terrifies me a bit though. My Mafia pedigree is like "Three-Time Crawfish-Diving Champ" as compared to Mafia PhD's who wrote their thesis on "The 30 Most Common Fallacies That Noobs Like Long Con Make".
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G-Man wrote:I remember back when role-claiming and info dumping were common practice at LP. Usually one powerful civvie would role claim and the other civvies would try to plan in the thread how they would use their powers in conjunction to protect said powerful civ. I'm not sure when that changed. Baddies had the opportunity to false role-claim but they would either get lynched when the real civ challenged them or they would get lynched Day 2 if people believed them and lynched the real civ Day 1. Those were the days when Day 1 wasn't just 48 hours of waiting for a random lynch. I was a baddie once and got caught early but then offered up my teammates identities for immunity. That probably started the ball rolling on STV to ban role-claiming and info dumping.

I don't see the harm in role-claiming once it's obvious who you are- civ or baddie. Without role-claiming, it's hard to info dump without strongly-worded vagueness. But it also takes some of the mystery out of the game.
I think I vaguely remember that incident. Or at least reading about it after the game had ended, or maybe someone referenced it to me once long ago.
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If Epi or LC go I think we're in good hands. But if you fellas want some pointers from a grand master....


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I nominate Epignosis to go :)
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G-Man wrote:I remember back when role-claiming and info dumping were common practice at LP. Usually one powerful civvie would role claim and the other civvies would try to plan in the thread how they would use their powers in conjunction to protect said powerful civ. I'm not sure when that changed. Baddies had the opportunity to false role-claim but they would either get lynched when the real civ challenged them or they would get lynched Day 2 if people believed them and lynched the real civ Day 1. Those were the days when Day 1 wasn't just 48 hours of waiting for a random lynch. I was a baddie once and got caught early but then offered up my teammates identities for immunity. That probably started the ball rolling on STV to ban role-claiming and info dumping.

I don't see the harm in role-claiming once it's obvious who you are- civ or baddie. Without role-claiming, it's hard to info dump without strongly-worded vagueness. But it also takes some of the mystery out of the game.
I think I vaguely remember that incident. Or at least reading about it after the game had ended, or maybe someone referenced it to me once long ago.
Yeah, it was Pirates of the Caribbean Mafia on STV. For a little while afterward, they called such a move "Pulling a G." :P
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I sent in a nomination, and know who i will vote for.
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Just a reminder, I will both PM and post here the players who have elected to represent us in this Championship. Everyone will therefater have 48 hours max to PM me their selection from among those players.

I already have multiple players, so I can confirm we will indeed be having a secret ballot, but I'll keep accepting new folks up until 9:30AM CST/10:30AM EST tomorrow.
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Just a reminder, I will both PM and post here the players who have elected to represent us in this Championship. Everyone will therefater have 48 hours max to PM me their selection from among those players.

I already have multiple players, so I can confirm we will indeed be having a secret ballot, but I'll keep accepting new folks up until 9:30AM CST/10:30AM EST tomorrow.
So, you mean 10:30AM CDT/11:30AM EDT, which is the time we are currently on?
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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No. Just ignore the "S" and input a "D" then. :P
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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MovingPictures07 wrote:No. Just ignore the "S" and input a "D" then. :P
Well, now I'm confused.
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Sigh. Why would I state times in a time that we are no longer using? :P
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Sigh. Why would I state times in a time that we are no longer using? :P
That's what I was wondering.
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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Members of The Syndicate, I am pleased to present... your nominees for the Mafia Championship Season 2, hosted by Thingyman:

blindfaeth
Epignosis
Long Con
Metalmarsh89
thellama73
Turnip Head


You may submit to me your top three selections. I will be awarding weighted points as follows: 3 for highest preference, 2 for second highest preference, and 1 for third. The nominee who receives the highest weighted accumulation of votes will be sent as our representative!

Please indicate to me clearly your preference order, otherwise your submission will be invalid and not counted.

You have 48 hours maximum to send me your votes. This means you must submit a PM to me before Tuesday, March 31st at 10:30AM Eastern time. Help make your voice heard by ensuring you send your PM to me before that deadline.

I am incredibly excited to send one of these nominees on behalf of our community at this gathering of mafia's best and brightest, and very much look forward to announcing the player that our community has awarded with that honor.
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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Well I know who I'm voting for and it's not...
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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Voted :D
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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S~V~S wrote:Voted :D
Me too!
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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Keep those votes coming! I expect to have an inbox packed FULL of everyone's votes. :srsnod:

I am very stoked about these nominees!!
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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It's hard to decide on another top contender other than Voopy, though... :why:
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Am I allowed to self-vote? :mafia:
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Am I allowed to self-vote? :mafia:
Sure, nominees can vote for whomever they want!
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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So looking at these names we're voting for who we don't want to go? :P

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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Members of The Syndicate, I am pleased to present... your nominees for the Mafia Championship Season 2, hosted by Thingyman:

blindfaeth
Epignosis
Long Con
Metalmarsh89
thellama73
Turnip Head
nice! :hug:

You may submit to me your top three selections. I will be awarding weighted points as follows: 3 for highest preference, 2 for second highest preference, and 1 for third. The nominee who receives the highest weighted accumulation of votes will be sent as our representative!

Please indicate to me clearly your preference order, otherwise your submission will be invalid and not counted.

You have 48 hours maximum to send me your votes. This means you must submit a PM to me before Tuesday, March 31st at 10:30AM Eastern time. Help make your voice heard by ensuring you send your PM to me before that deadline.

I am incredibly excited to send one of these nominees on behalf of our community at this gathering of mafia's best and brightest, and very much look forward to announcing the player that our community has awarded with that honor.
Nice :)!!!
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Re: Invitation to Mafia Championship Season 2

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I am very excited to announce that Turnip Head has been selected to represent The Syndicate in this tournament. I feel confident that he will do an amazing job. :noble:

What an amazingly close race though! Thanks for sending in your votes, everyone!
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