Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]

#2451

sanmateo wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Before I talk about some other ideas I've had regarding players, I have some questions for all of you guys.

Everyone:
- How are you reading G-Man, under the assumption that he is cursed somehow to post in only pictures?
- How do you read G-Man, if instead you were to find out with certainty that he is NOT cursed to post in only pictures, that it was self-inflicted?

sanmateo:
- Tell me about Jay. You've expressed some minor concerns with his play all game. Just tell me everything you think about him and how you're feeling about him right now.
?
-town
-town

-i'm feeling he's town

You think a self-inflicted G-Man curse still reads as a town G-Man?

Elaborate.

#2452

Hey aether, G-Man, and Roxy, can I get invited into your BTSC chat too?

#2453

Channeling my inner Epi and pizza right now.

MAFIA GET REKT.

#2454

I like the cut of your jib Sockface

#2455

Still waiting for that read, G-Man.

How about you drop this picture charade and actually talk to me?

#2456

I've been reasonable, but it's time to cut the shit. I'm calling it now. You are 100% pulling this picture gambit as a baddie ploy and it's gotten you pretty far, I will admit, but it's over.

#2457

Turnip Head wrote:I like the cut of your jib Sockface

Likewise, sir Turnip.

#2458

MP right now reminds me of a dog who is so excited he is just peeing all over everything.

#2459

MovingPictures07 wrote:
sanmateo wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Before I talk about some other ideas I've had regarding players, I have some questions for all of you guys.

Everyone:
- How are you reading G-Man, under the assumption that he is cursed somehow to post in only pictures?
- How do you read G-Man, if instead you were to find out with certainty that he is NOT cursed to post in only pictures, that it was self-inflicted?

sanmateo:
- Tell me about Jay. You've expressed some minor concerns with his play all game. Just tell me everything you think about him and how you're feeling about him right now.
?
-town
-town

-i'm feeling he's town
You think a self-inflicted G-Man curse still reads as a town G-Man?

Elaborate.

i think his actions/votes are townie. i'm guessing you have something to say against that

#2460

fingersplints wrote:MP right now reminds me of a dog who is so excited he is just peeing all over everything.

#2461

Seriously, everyone, G-Man is fucking faking this shit. Let's be honest here.

- If he were cursed, it's highly dubious that it would have taken effect as early as Day 1, before any night actions could be submitted. It also cannot be due to the D0 poll because literally NO ONE else has had this problem, and many others voted the same option as he did.
- There is no apparent role on either the civilian or mafia team that would have to be cursed as such.

If there even is an explanation otherwise that would cause him to be cursed for all 4 cycles, why not Day 0?

If there even is an explanation otherwise that jives with ALL OF THAT, then he would have broken or failed the curse EASILY with his most recent pictures interrogating DDL. I've never seen that unpunished from a host. If I were hosting, that would be a violation.

Therefore, G-Man does not have to post in all pictures.

He is therefore a mafia.

#2462

Thank you for the compliment, splints.

:P

#2463

MovingPictures07 wrote:In the words of Epi, BULLSHIT.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Channeling my inner Epi and pizza right now.

MAFIA GET REKT.

#2464

Roxy was the one to point out the role in awardswatch that was similar to Gmans posting restrictions. Subtle defense of G?

#2465

Go ahead and lynch me then, 'cause when I flip town a lotta you are gonna look bad.

#2466

fingersplints wrote:Roxy was the one to point out the role in awardswatch that was similar to Gmans posting restrictions. Subtle defense of G?

do you still think mp is scum?

#2467

Let's consider a scenario where aether is mafia.

How does G-Man's vote for BR yesterday look now?

But let's assume that's not even the case. Let's say aether is town.

How does G-Man's vote for BR look? Well, on the surface, good. But let's remember the way in which he is communicating, i.e., via all pictures. Let's also remember that his baddie reads on Day 2: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 20#p144420

Guess what? No BR to be found.

It wasn't until the start of Day 3, when even though aether was in more immediate trouble, BR started getting serious contention, that G-Man put BR in his bottom 3 reads: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 27#p146027.

You know what's the best part of G-Man's posting if he's mafia? He never has to explain anything!

#2468

In fact I'm tempted to go ahead and vote for myself. My flip is gonna give the rest of my fellow libertarians a heckuva lotta information.

#2469

G-Man wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:In the words of Epi, BULLSHIT.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Channeling my inner Epi and pizza right now.

MAFIA GET REKT.

So instead of actually providing a read, an opinion, an actual THOUGHT, particularly on Roxy, you instead compare my situation to Epi's, even though I'm grilling you for lack of contribution on Day 4 and he was grilling me on something RL-related?

First off, real nice comparison.

Secondly, you're now confirmed mafia. You still have failed to contribute. I therefore believe you are panicking and you are fabricating your reads.

#2470

fingersplints wrote:Roxy was the one to point out the role in awardswatch that was similar to Gmans posting restrictions. Subtle defense of G?

I wasn't going to mention this to see if anyone else did.

2 points for splints.

#2471

acrosstheaether wrote:In fact I'm tempted to go ahead and vote for myself. My flip is gonna give the rest of my fellow libertarians a heckuva lotta information.

What kind of pressure are you under at the moment that would cause you to vote for yourself out of frustration?

Really?

And you still refuse to comment on Roxy and provide other reads?

#2472

Cut the BS. If you're a civilian, aether, G-Man, Roxy, come in here and actually provide some content. A read, a thought, anything. Look, there's even a nice, shiny case on Rox that Turnip Head made!

Oh, wait, what was that? You don't want to say anything because Roxy is your teammate and your other teammates are under a lot of heat? Oh, wait, what else? You expected me to grill splints more today?

#2473

People should also take into consideration the case that Golden made on Roxy. He made a lot of points that I agree with.

#2474

fingersplints wrote:MP right now reminds me of a dog who is so excited he is just peeing all over everything.

#2475

sanmateo wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Roxy was the one to point out the role in awardswatch that was similar to Gmans posting restrictions. Subtle defense of G?
do you still think mp is scum?

Depends how this goes. I did earlier today, but these gman/Rox points are making sense. If Gman is bad I do not think MP is. I'm still debating. I'm very stubborn

#2476

A civilian should be able to provide one sincere thought on Day 4, especially when such a supposed civilian has been actively lurking and posted multiple times.

aether and G-Man have failed to do so.

May it be known.

#2477

looking back at g-man's votes i'm not so sure about him. he basically secured golden's lynch and he was the 4th or 5th person to vote for elo. i still don't think he is among the most suspicious players tho

#2478

FWIW, I'm increasingly leaning towards the case of Roxy being mafia. I would prefer Roxy to be the lynch candidate other than myself.

#2479

acrosstheaether wrote:In fact I'm tempted to go ahead and vote for myself. My flip is gonna give the rest of my fellow libertarians a heckuva lotta information.

lol

#2480

fingersplints wrote:
sanmateo wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Roxy was the one to point out the role in awardswatch that was similar to Gmans posting restrictions. Subtle defense of G?
do you still think mp is scum?
Depends how this goes. I did earlier today, but these gman/Rox points are making sense. If Gman is bad I do not think MP is. I'm still debating. I'm very stubborn

What would you think if Roxy is bad?

#2481

sanmateo wrote:looking back at g-man's votes i'm not so sure about him. he basically secured golden's lynch and he was the 4th or 5th person to vote for elo. i still don't think he is among the most suspicious players tho

Why can't he give me one read?

Why can't he comment on the Roxy case?

Why does he have to re-read all of Day 3 before posting a single thought, despite being prompted multiple times?

Why does he have to post in pictures, when otherwise he clearly would have broken the rules, and that notwithstanding, there is literally NO reason to believe that he has been cursed for Days 1-4, not Day 0, and that there is any game-related reason for his behavior whatsoever?

Why did he aggressively pursue DDL early in the period, all the while Roxy became a major topic for today's lynch?

#2482

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously, everyone, G-Man is fucking faking this shit. Let's be honest here.

- If he were cursed, it's highly dubious that it would have taken effect as early as Day 1, before any night actions could be submitted. It also cannot be due to the D0 poll because literally NO ONE else has had this problem, and many others voted the same option as he did.
- There is no apparent role on either the civilian or mafia team that would have to be cursed as such.

If there even is an explanation otherwise that would cause him to be cursed for all 4 cycles, why not Day 0?

If there even is an explanation otherwise that jives with ALL OF THAT, then he would have broken or failed the curse EASILY with his most recent pictures interrogating DDL. I've never seen that unpunished from a host. If I were hosting, that would be a violation.

Therefore, G-Man does not have to post in all pictures.

He is therefore a mafia.

I have some guesses:

- He's Adam Smith, the invisible hand, which makes him unable to talk directly.
- He's the Ludwig guy who only talks in the night, so maybe he can't talk directly in the thread (though he's still posting pictures in the night so I dunno).

#2483

acrosstheaether wrote:FWIW, I'm increasingly leaning towards the case of Roxy being mafia. I would prefer Roxy to be the lynch candidate other than myself.

acrosstheaether wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
sanmateo wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Roxy was the one to point out the role in awardswatch that was similar to Gmans posting restrictions. Subtle defense of G?
do you still think mp is scum?
Depends how this goes. I did earlier today, but these gman/Rox points are making sense. If Gman is bad I do not think MP is. I'm still debating. I'm very stubborn
What would you think if Roxy is bad?

I rest my case.

Aether, G-Man, Roxy.

#2484

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously, everyone, G-Man is fucking faking this shit. Let's be honest here.

- If he were cursed, it's highly dubious that it would have taken effect as early as Day 1, before any night actions could be submitted. It also cannot be due to the D0 poll because literally NO ONE else has had this problem, and many others voted the same option as he did.
- There is no apparent role on either the civilian or mafia team that would have to be cursed as such.

If there even is an explanation otherwise that would cause him to be cursed for all 4 cycles, why not Day 0?

If there even is an explanation otherwise that jives with ALL OF THAT, then he would have broken or failed the curse EASILY with his most recent pictures interrogating DDL. I've never seen that unpunished from a host. If I were hosting, that would be a violation.

Therefore, G-Man does not have to post in all pictures.

He is therefore a mafia.
I have some guesses:

- He's Adam Smith, the invisible hand, which makes him unable to talk directly.
- He's the Ludwig guy who only talks in the night, so maybe he can't talk directly in the thread (though he's still posting pictures in the night so I dunno).

He is not Adam Smith. Even if he was, that would be a ridiculous posting restriction. He also posted during Day 0, which is key.

#2485

acrosstheaether wrote:In fact I'm tempted to go ahead and vote for myself. My flip is gonna give the rest of my fellow libertarians a heckuva lotta information.

Go ahead, it will save us a lot of the energy that has been focused trying to argue with you and being ignored.

#2486

acrosstheaether wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
sanmateo wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Roxy was the one to point out the role in awardswatch that was similar to Gmans posting restrictions. Subtle defense of G?
do you still think mp is scum?
Depends how this goes. I did earlier today, but these gman/Rox points are making sense. If Gman is bad I do not think MP is. I'm still debating. I'm very stubborn
What would you think if Roxy is bad?

Same thing. I think both of those would make MP look good. He loves bussing teammates, but this feels genuine.

#2487

Who are you going to go after when I flip town?

Btw can I change the theme/skin of the forum? I hate reading pale text on a dark background, it turns me off using the site lol

#2488

In fact if I could get a different skin I would probably be inclined to post more.

#2489

If any of you have your doubt, just look at their actions INDIVIDUALLY.

Aether refuses to contribute all game, gets "replaced", still casts vote. Finally contributes a rainbow, with no accompanying explanation. Lurks all morning of Day 4, only comes in to ask a question when I start applying the pressure on G-Man, now seems to suddenly find Roxy suspicious, even though she's been asked multiple times for contributions.

G-Man apparently has a posting restriction that allowed him to post on Day 0, but not during any Day OR Night thereafter, that allows him to bluntly state sentences within his pictures without being punished. He also didn't voice any suspicion of BR until Day 3, then voted her the moment after Turnip posted his case. Considering he has received good town reads as a result, and he wasn't really on anyone's radar previously due to antics, he can buss a teammate with no one seriously looking at him (or so they would think).

Rox has aggressively defended three people now she thought was civilian (Golden 1.0, TinyBubbles, splints), vehemently attacking their accusers, yet it was all after the fact, and she fails to contribute otherwise.

#2490

i think acrosstheaether would be the best lynch today. i don't know what to think about roxy, the only that caught my attention was the defense of fingersplints

#2491

acrosstheaether wrote:Who are you going to go after when I flip town?

Btw can I change the theme/skin of the forum? I hate reading pale text on a dark background, it turns me off using the site lol

Go to User Control Panel -- Board preferences -- Edit global settings -- my board style

#2492

acrosstheaether wrote:Who are you going to go after when I flip town?

Btw can I change the theme/skin of the forum? I hate reading pale text on a dark background, it turns me off using the site lol

Go to User Control Panel, click the "Board Preferences" tab, then change My Board Style to Prosilver. That's the one I always use.

linki: Fuck

#2493

sanmateo wrote:i think acrosstheaether would be the best lynch today. i don't know what to think about roxy, the only that caught my attention was the defense of fingersplints

Please read the following:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 60#p146756
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 26#p146826

Those are good cases on Roxy.

#2494

I would rather vote for Roxy, or even G-Man, before aether.

I am least sure about aether being a part of this equation, and I'd rather not the 4th teammate if not aether (sanmateo, Jay, whoever else) push this lynch to aether and have her flip town.

#2495

Thanks

Nah honestly the prosilver theme is worse (don't like the font). I'll stick with this one.

#2496

Stand alone, I think Roxy's behavior is by far the most suspicious. It's classic baddie knowing who all of the baddies are and pursuing players who make mistakes.

#2497

I also very firmly believe Roxy was trying to pit me and splints against each other.

#2498

I predict that Rox will come out full swinging against me, trying to discredit me in some way, by the way.

#2499

Ok I have a little time so let me get in on this. I think TH and Golden 2.0 have made some valid points against Roxy.
I dont know G-man's game at all. Has he ever done big gambits like this in the past?

#2500

I can see it now.

"Look at Sock, he's posting so much and thinks he knows the whole mafia team! And he was so against splints yesterday what happened? This is such a baddie Sock lol"

Who killed our talkative teddy??