[ENDGAME] Triskaidekaphobia Mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[quote="sig"I'm really confident JJJ isn't the cop, I'm slightly wary of him for hinting that he might be the cop, however I do think he is a civ even though he is trying to say he might be the cop.[/quote]

"However I do think he is a civ"

linki: What makes you think there is no cop?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It actually sucks that sig is dead and cannot speak, because there are quite a few points here that I think he'd back me up on -- even if he wasn't trying to cover for the cop.

[Quin]

I've got thoughts, but I want to know this before I reveal them:

I believe I already know, but I want to be sure - 3J, what was the civ motivation you had for holding back releasing the name of the baddie you were questioning G-Man about? Even if it wasn't true, I still believe you had some sort of goal in mind.

[Epignosis]

What makes you think there is no cop?

I have no reason to believe there is one. It's the same reason I don't believe my bourbon right now is really a potato.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've got thoughts, but I want to know this before I reveal them:

I believe I already know, but I want to be sure - 3J, what was the civ motivation you had for holding back releasing the name of the baddie you were questioning G-Man about? Even if it wasn't true, I still believe you had some sort of goal in mind.

To open a day phase with "I have a red peek, I'll say who it is later tee hee" strikes me as a nice way to make the baddies a bit jumpy. Even if they don't believe me, on some level that has the potential to concern them and influence their behavior toward me and toward each other. They have to guess at whether I'm full of shit and behave in such a way that they don't expose themselves if I'm lying and don't expose their team mates if I'm not.

G-Man was the one to respond to that in the most interesting way, and that's why I interrogated him the hardest. When he suggested I was "teasing", I thought he was ignoring a rather obvious civilian-oriented objective for my actions (the one I just described), and that struck me as suspicious. I am still processing that exchange, because sometimes big moves like that can perturb civilians and make them look bad too.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What makes you think there is no cop?

I have no reason to believe there is one. It's the same reason I don't believe my bourbon right now is really a potato.

Maybe you're right.

Maybe you're not.

[Epignosis]

I've got thoughts, but I want to know this before I reveal them:

I believe I already know, but I want to be sure - 3J, what was the civ motivation you had for holding back releasing the name of the baddie you were questioning G-Man about? Even if it wasn't true, I still believe you had some sort of goal in mind.

To open a day phase with "I have a red peek, I'll say who it is later tee hee" strikes me as a nice way to make the baddies a bit jumpy. Even if they don't believe me, on some level that has the potential to concern them and influence their behavior toward me and toward each other. They have to guess at whether I'm full of shit and behave in such a way that they don't expose themselves if I'm lying and don't expose their team mates if I'm not.

G-Man was the one to respond to that in the most interesting way, and that's why I interrogated him the hardest. When he suggested I was "teasing", I thought he was ignoring a rather obvious civilian-oriented objective for my actions (the one I just described), and that struck me as suspicious. I am still processing that exchange, because sometimes big moves like that can perturb civilians and make them look bad too.

Or you just ignore the only guy claiming a "red peek" since he's obviously trying to bait somebody. That's what I would do.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Or you just ignore the only guy claiming a "red peek" since he's obviously trying to bait somebody. That's what I would do.

I am sure some people would see through the ruse, yes. But I'll still try.

[Epignosis]

Or you just ignore the only guy claiming a "red peek" since he's obviously trying to bait somebody. That's what I would do.

I am sure some people would see through the ruse, yes. But I'll still try.

Some people do see through it, yes.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also, completely ignoring it is itself a reaction and something I was looking for.

[DrWilgy]

How did I get here? This isn't my porn!

[sig]

How did I get here? This isn't my porn!

What type of porn would lead you to a mafia site......never mind keep your kinks to yourself. :P


Also thanks for the game Rico good luck town.

[Quin]

Baddie plot goes like this:

1) Baddie A claims to have a Night 0 peek.

2) Baddie A provides a real civvie as his/her green peek.

3) Baddie A drops hints to make people think he/she is the cop.

4) Team Baddie kills the player Baddie A claimed as a green peek Night 1.

5) Dead civvie flips civ.

6) Baddie A looks a little more awesome on Day 2.


JJJ claimed a N0 green peek on sig. I'm not saying I'm 100% on this but this plot is very plausible. In a small game like this, it's the kind of gambit that just might be worth trying.


Now, about that red peek of yours...


2.12

I did think of this exact scenario when night ended, but I don't think it's correct. There's no real benefit for him in killing his n0 peek, nor is there in pretending to have one in the first place. He's not going to gain any civ cred, considering baddies don't need them. He does, however, gain a lot of unnecessary attention for a baddie. I do wonder whether I can see 3J as someone who would, as a baddie, try to put himself into the spotlight early in order to create some degree of influence. I've only played with indie 3J's before, but I think I can see it happening.

I can think of better ways to go about revealing to have a baddie peek, even with 3J's goal in mind. I agree with Epi in that waiting until later in the phase would have a more noticeable effect, at a time where there is more significant discussion occurring and sudden changes in behaviour would be more likely to appear. Just because he didn't do it that way isn't really cause to suspect him, imho.

Overall, ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Why did this take so long to write?

[Quin]

It wasn't even Epi who said that, it was G-Man.

What number am I even up to?

[Epignosis]

Also, completely ignoring it is itself a reaction and something I was looking for.

Please. You're playing the Mastermind and flailing at it at that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also, completely ignoring it is itself a reaction and something I was looking for.

Please. You're playing the Mastermind and flailing at it at that.

I never claimed to be any kind of "mastermind". I only claimed to do what I did. And I already said it.

Everyone who has visited this thread without commenting on the matter at hand is more suspicious than before.

Elohcin and S~V~S were around but did not comment on the claimed red peek or the discussion stemming from it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I did think of this exact scenario when night ended, but I don't think it's correct. There's no real benefit for him in killing his n0 peek, nor is there in pretending to have one in the first place. He's not going to gain any civ cred, considering baddies don't need them. He does, however, gain a lot of unnecessary attention for a baddie. I do wonder whether I can see 3J as someone who would, as a baddie, try to put himself into the spotlight early in order to create some degree of influence. I've only played with indie 3J's before, but I think I can see it happening.

I can think of better ways to go about revealing to have a baddie peek, even with 3J's goal in mind. I agree with Epi in that waiting until later in the phase would have a more noticeable effect, at a time where there is more significant discussion occurring and sudden changes in behaviour would be more likely to appear. Just because he didn't do it that way isn't really cause to suspect him, imho.

Overall, ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Why did this take so long to write?

I think it was G-Man that said that, not Epignosis.

There are probably better ways I could have executed that little ruse. But yanno: I was here, I thought of it, I did it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think I've just illustrated with sig's own posts that he was conscious of the concept of covering for the cop, which means it's perfectly plausible he was doing it himself.

JJJ the fake cop thing is going a wee bit to far. :P


It is clear JJJ is providing cover for the real cop whoever he is, I'm not sure if Wilgy is doing the same or not.

I will most likely vote for Wilgy or SVS today.

I disagree nothing wrong with players who aren't cops peeking since it covers for the real cop, neither are the cops and I think it will be clear in awhile if one is lying or not.

I think JJJ makes a good point about Vomp, but I'm still eyeing SVS for the reasons that Rabbit stated. If needed I'd vote for Vomp over a no lynch, but would prefer someone else.

Epignosis: if you're going to look at these posts and then tell me that I'm full of it for suggesting sig was covering the cop himself, I'll assert that you're the one who is full of it. It's right here, in plain sight, in posts by sig himself which you did not acknowledge in your attacks on me. It's still possible he wasn't trying to provide cover, but there is nothing absurd about me saying he might have been. He has shown here that he understands the concept of covering for the cop, some methods of covering for the cop, and the advantage of covering for the cop.

Everything you've said about sig and cop cover is over. Ended. Bye. If you hold to it you're bad.

[Quin]

Also, completely ignoring it is itself a reaction and something I was looking for.

Please. You're playing the Mastermind and flailing at it at that.

I never claimed to be any kind of "mastermind". I only claimed to do what I did. And I already said it.

Everyone who has visited this thread without commenting on the matter at hand is more suspicious than before.

Elohcin and S~V~S were around but did not comment on the claimed red peek or the discussion stemming from it.

Add SD to that list.

[G-Man]

Breakfast time again. As entertaining as it was to watch JJJ spar with Epi last night, I'm left with no clearer picture than I had at the start of Day 2. JJJ is a smooth operator, so it's hard for me to know if real cracks were showing or if I was interpreting him as scrambling just a tad. Epi proved my point about being either one of the civvies' greatest assets or a formidable threat. He can pick apart an argument like few other human beings I've met but that doesn't mean it can't be false picking to serve nefarious ends.

Neither JJJ nor Epi are off my radar.

JJJ- were you prepared to provide a fake red peek name today if we'd have let you dangle it in front of our faces longer?


2.14

[Elohcin]

Well, if there is anything to distract me from voting wilgy today, this is it. I have not caught up on every post and I have to leave here in a minute to go workout. But this sums up what I've caught up on so far. Epi has a good theory with this....

Let's review the supposed sequence of events:

Baddie JJJ fakes a n0 town peek on sig.

DrWilgy suggests JJJ and sig might be team mates.

JJJ [and team] kill sig.

This is such a wasteful progression for a baddie team. To open the game with that fake peek would suggest a gambit is being employed, and then to kill him on the first possible night is to discard that gambit immediately with only one person drawing an incorrect link -- that isn't good enough.

Awesome cover, sig. It sucks to lose you on night 1, but your sacrifice is appreciated.

JJJ... What was Sig cover for?

Me, though he probably didn't know exactly who. By conclusively rejecting me as the cop he made himself look like the cop.

Guess who has a red peek?

I'll just let y'all stew on that one for a while and reveal the name later.

The gambit looks alive and well to me.

Then to point out that it was JJJ who first brought up sig's motivation in all this AFTER sig couldn't speak up for himself. And the fact that sig could have known what was going on b/c they have played together on the other site with stuff like this all the time.

And this.......

I don't believe there is a cop at all. My entire discussion with you was allowing the point. That is all.

I bet there is no cop at all as well, as I've said before.

I know this is piggybacking a bit, but I just think Epi made great points while I was snoozing.

I have a busy day ahead, but I will catch up sometime this afternoon, hopefully.

and I have no clue what # post I'm on, but i have to skidaddle.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If I can get back into my dang laptop I'll break everything down as clearly as possible.

Meanwhile, is my laptop dead?

Spoiler: show

[Ricochet]

Probably not, but I have no advice except googling for advice (this is assuming you have Win10).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'll do what I can with my phone. Arguments used against me in recent memory:

1. "You faked a peek on sig and then killed him for civilian credit."

Clearly that didn't work.

There is no reason revealing sig as a civilian would make me look better, and I think it's silly to say that I tried this. I glued myself to sig on Day 1 and killing him is only going to draw more scrutiny upon me.

2. "You killed sig to eliminate the theory that he is your team mate."

If I'm bad and I fake a green peek on sig, I am well aware of the potential we'd be linked. Is this some kind of major oopsie? "Welp, didn't see that coming. Better kill him."

Stupid.

3. "After sig died you praised him for his cop cover which may not be accurate."

It may not be accurate. That says nothing about what team I play for. I showed sig's posts which make it unrefutable that he understands cop cover, and that's evidence enough that he may have been trying to do it himself.

4. "You put words in his mouth AFTER he died!"



There's a blatanly obvious answer to this nonsense accusation. Two, even.

a. sig's cover (intentional or not) was good enough that I thought he might be an alignment checker myself. I'm not going to broadcast that when he is alive.

b. If he's not a cop and is providing cover, I don't want to blow that cover by blabbing it in the thread. One might assert he did that to me, but keeping it a one-way action is what made it work.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JJJ- were you prepared to provide a fake red peek name today if we'd have let you dangle it in front of our faces longer?

No, I never intended to implicate any specific person. That maneuver becomes a lot more dangerous when the peek has a name. If you've ever noticed Golden referring playfully to MP as a "suicidal moron", it refers to an incident when MP faked a red peek on bcornett. MP was a vanilla townie and bcornett himself was the cop. It led to some unfortunate exposure and both of their deaths. I'd prefer to avoid that catastrophe.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Probably not, but I have no advice except googling for advice (this is assuming you have Win10).

Thanks for looking it up, Rico.

I love it when these recommended fixes for a computer that cannot start up properly involve components that require the computer to start up properly (not blaming you Rico, just being cranky).

[Epignosis]

Everyone who has visited this thread without commenting on the matter at hand is more suspicious than before.

Elohcin and S~V~S were around but did not comment on the claimed red peek or the discussion stemming from it.

And?

I know I am not the only person who stays logged in and not hidden throughout the day. Just because people are shown as being on doesn't mean they are engaged on The Syndicate. They could be cooking supper, working up a strong fantasy baseball lineup, or watching bootlegged episodes of Mama's Family in another tab.

So what makes these individuals more suspicious than before?

[Epignosis]

I think I've just illustrated with sig's own posts that he was conscious of the concept of covering for the cop, which means it's perfectly plausible he was doing it himself.

JJJ the fake cop thing is going a wee bit to far. :P


It is clear JJJ is providing cover for the real cop whoever he is, I'm not sure if Wilgy is doing the same or not.

I will most likely vote for Wilgy or SVS today.

I disagree nothing wrong with players who aren't cops peeking since it covers for the real cop, neither are the cops and I think it will be clear in awhile if one is lying or not.

I think JJJ makes a good point about Vomp, but I'm still eyeing SVS for the reasons that Rabbit stated. If needed I'd vote for Vomp over a no lynch, but would prefer someone else.

Epignosis: if you're going to look at these posts and then tell me that I'm full of it for suggesting sig was covering the cop himself, I'll assert that you're the one who is full of it. It's right here, in plain sight, in posts by sig himself which you did not acknowledge in your attacks on me. It's still possible he wasn't trying to provide cover, but there is nothing absurd about me saying he might have been. He has shown here that he understands the concept of covering for the cop, some methods of covering for the cop, and the advantage of covering for the cop.

Everything you've said about sig and cop cover is over. Ended. Bye. If you hold to it you're bad.

Those quotes you pulled came after the most relevant one, and after you explained how the mechanics supposedly worked here.

I think rabbit makes valid points. There is a degree of ambiguity in S~V~S's wording which would enable her to move either direction on sig depending upon circumstance.

sig won't be mislynched in this game anyway because he was my n0 town peek.

2

I agree with Gman (I think) why would you pick me if you had a n0 peek, I highly doubt that you have a n0 peek unless it was a random peek given to a vanilla. Unless you're mafia who knows I'm a civ and faked a peek.


I really dislike that we have so many no lynch votes right now, I understand Quin's reasoning but I don't see why Wilgy, , inh, or Vomp are doing it. If it comes down to it and it is close with the no lynchers, I suggest we lynch one of the no lynchers.

To those watching at home: Does this post look like sig was providing cover?

If you hold to it you're bad.

Well, I'm holding to it.

So what are you going to do about it?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Everyone who has visited this thread without commenting on the matter at hand is more suspicious than before.

Elohcin and S~V~S were around but did not comment on the claimed red peek or the discussion stemming from it.

And?

I know I am not the only person who stays logged in and not hidden throughout the day. Just because people are shown as being on doesn't mean they are engaged on The Syndicate. They could be cooking supper, working up a strong fantasy baseball lineup, or watching bootlegged episodes of Mama's Family in another tab.

So what makes these individuals more suspicious than before?

Showing up, posting nothing, and leaving is not the same thing as "staying". Elhocin did post as well, just not about this issue.

I think one potential baddie response to JJJ making a scene is to not touch it with a ten foot pole.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think I've just illustrated with sig's own posts that he was conscious of the concept of covering for the cop, which means it's perfectly plausible he was doing it himself.

JJJ the fake cop thing is going a wee bit to far. :P


It is clear JJJ is providing cover for the real cop whoever he is, I'm not sure if Wilgy is doing the same or not.

I will most likely vote for Wilgy or SVS today.

I disagree nothing wrong with players who aren't cops peeking since it covers for the real cop, neither are the cops and I think it will be clear in awhile if one is lying or not.

I think JJJ makes a good point about Vomp, but I'm still eyeing SVS for the reasons that Rabbit stated. If needed I'd vote for Vomp over a no lynch, but would prefer someone else.

Epignosis: if you're going to look at these posts and then tell me that I'm full of it for suggesting sig was covering the cop himself, I'll assert that you're the one who is full of it. It's right here, in plain sight, in posts by sig himself which you did not acknowledge in your attacks on me. It's still possible he wasn't trying to provide cover, but there is nothing absurd about me saying he might have been. He has shown here that he understands the concept of covering for the cop, some methods of covering for the cop, and the advantage of covering for the cop.

Everything you've said about sig and cop cover is over. Ended. Bye. If you hold to it you're bad.

Those quotes you pulled came after the most relevant one, and after you explained how the mechanics supposedly worked here.

I think rabbit makes valid points. There is a degree of ambiguity in S~V~S's wording which would enable her to move either direction on sig depending upon circumstance.

sig won't be mislynched in this game anyway because he was my n0 town peek.

2

I agree with Gman (I think) why would you pick me if you had a n0 peek, I highly doubt that you have a n0 peek unless it was a random peek given to a vanilla. Unless you're mafia who knows I'm a civ and faked a peek.


I really dislike that we have so many no lynch votes right now, I understand Quin's reasoning but I don't see why Wilgy, , inh, or Vomp are doing it. If it comes down to it and it is close with the no lynchers, I suggest we lynch one of the no lynchers.

To those watching at home: Does this post look like sig was providing cover?

If you hold to it you're bad.

Well, I'm holding to it.

So what are you going to do about it?

Your logic is shit. sig can think a cop functions differently to the way I think a cop functiins and still be covering for the cop.

I'm going to vote for you. You're not this stubborn that you'd ignore a clear-cut argument.

[Ricochet]

Probably not, but I have no advice except googling for advice (this is assuming you have Win10).

Thanks for looking it up, Rico.

I love it when these recommended fixes for a computer that cannot start up properly involve components that require the computer to start up properly (not blaming you Rico, just being cranky).

Dunno, can't you normally boot the computer in another mode that would enable to perform such repairs or access the command prompt.

I am lab dog at this, i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry

[Epignosis]

I think I've just illustrated with sig's own posts that he was conscious of the concept of covering for the cop, which means it's perfectly plausible he was doing it himself.

JJJ the fake cop thing is going a wee bit to far. :P


It is clear JJJ is providing cover for the real cop whoever he is, I'm not sure if Wilgy is doing the same or not.

I will most likely vote for Wilgy or SVS today.

I disagree nothing wrong with players who aren't cops peeking since it covers for the real cop, neither are the cops and I think it will be clear in awhile if one is lying or not.

I think JJJ makes a good point about Vomp, but I'm still eyeing SVS for the reasons that Rabbit stated. If needed I'd vote for Vomp over a no lynch, but would prefer someone else.

Epignosis: if you're going to look at these posts and then tell me that I'm full of it for suggesting sig was covering the cop himself, I'll assert that you're the one who is full of it. It's right here, in plain sight, in posts by sig himself which you did not acknowledge in your attacks on me. It's still possible he wasn't trying to provide cover, but there is nothing absurd about me saying he might have been. He has shown here that he understands the concept of covering for the cop, some methods of covering for the cop, and the advantage of covering for the cop.

Everything you've said about sig and cop cover is over. Ended. Bye. If you hold to it you're bad.

Those quotes you pulled came after the most relevant one, and after you explained how the mechanics supposedly worked here.

I think rabbit makes valid points. There is a degree of ambiguity in S~V~S's wording which would enable her to move either direction on sig depending upon circumstance.

sig won't be mislynched in this game anyway because he was my n0 town peek.

2

I agree with Gman (I think) why would you pick me if you had a n0 peek, I highly doubt that you have a n0 peek unless it was a random peek given to a vanilla. Unless you're mafia who knows I'm a civ and faked a peek.


I really dislike that we have so many no lynch votes right now, I understand Quin's reasoning but I don't see why Wilgy, , inh, or Vomp are doing it. If it comes down to it and it is close with the no lynchers, I suggest we lynch one of the no lynchers.

To those watching at home: Does this post look like sig was providing cover?

If you hold to it you're bad.

Well, I'm holding to it.

So what are you going to do about it?

Your logic is shit. sig can think a cop functions differently to the way I think a cop functiins and still be covering for the cop.

I'm going to vote for you. You're not this stubborn that you'd ignore a clear-cut argument.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If posting a picture wasn't such an ass pain on my phone, I'd post a picture of Marty McFly onstage at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance, everyone staring at him in confusion after he shredded up the stage.

I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also: cop cover is a valid play even in a closed setup which may or may not even have a cop. The baddies don't know either, and power role protection is power role protection.

[rabbit8]

RIP Sig.

What the fuck? Don't go to bed early on this game.

I will get caught up at lunch, no time this morning.

[rabbit8]

JJJ what are your thoughts on Elohchin?

Generally I've seen her more in a town light than not. I think in recent memory when she has been bad there has been visible evidence, like in Transistor in her interactions with Matt, and I haven't been terribly perturbed by her content so far in this game. I could say that she has participated at a higher clip than usual; I've been content to attribute that to this being a heist game. She prefers smaller games. What are your thoughts on Elohcin?

She had similar patterns to Sig and that bothered me early game, but what you say is something I've noticed as well. Her baddie game in transistor showed and I would think to see something similar, but they aren't there.

Rabbit is playing cutthroat and I don't know how to react to it, since I don't think I have any baddie rabbit experience. His comment regarding swapping to SVS had it been an option feels uneeded. It pinged me somewhat.

What are your thoughts on him JJJ?

Linki @ Quin - INH and SVS

If I wait until lunch there's no way I'll catch up. So I'll try to get through some of this this morning.

Cutthroat? I made one accusation on day 1.... I was night

I don't like not lynching players. I also hate lynch stops as a player power. It most times just extends a game for no purpose.

I would have voted for SVS had you SVS voted earlier. No one had and JJJ had pointed out something odd about Vomps play. I wanted to lynch SVS, I still do, so I don't see how that comment was unneeded. I guess I could have left and just voted vomps, but I wanted my actual thoughts in the thread.

Baddies know who the civvies are in heist games. Never forget that.

What is the implication here?

I would infer that i means that you are bad JJJ. I've been thinking it as well.

@Quin because I trusted INH and SVS. In total that makes 3 players that were trusted.

I can confirm that both the players I trusted are civilian.

I'm confused, you voted for SVS and tried to start a last minute bandwagon on her, yes?

Then you said this:

Let's kill INH...

If INH isn't bad we murderify JJJ ok?

I thought he wasn't bad, I thought he was trusted? You're not making one lick of sense to me this game.

[rabbit8]

Cutthroat? I made one accusation on day 1.... I was night

I was night killed early in the last few games, or replaced in. I have not had a chance to play yet TBH.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I showed Epignosis why his case doesn't work, and instead of stepping back to reconsider or even expanding his argument to compensate, he doubled down on the attacks that I've shown to be invalid. Then instead of showing me why I'm the illogical party in the exchange, he posted a bullshit meme to give himself a pass for unreasonable stubbornness.

Please remove him from the premises.

[rabbit8]

JJJ epig conflict I will get to at lunch, more.

I can't right now. It's a lot of wash, rinse, repeat arguments. I don't know if JJJ would make this peek gambit as a baddie. I've no idea on the size balls this guy has. The sig WIFOM argument looks bad.... or the set up is in?

Epig coming out swinging is a big change from day 1. Dog with a bone or set up.

This is confusing. I have to reread it all.

[rabbit8]

If posting a picture wasn't such an ass pain on my phone, I'd post a picture of Marty McFly onstage at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance, everyone staring at him in confusion after he shredded up the stage.

I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can't even force shut down my laptop. This is so frustrating.

[rabbit8]

Everyone who has visited this thread without commenting on the matter at hand is more suspicious than before.

Elohcin and S~V~S were around but did not comment on the claimed red peek or the discussion stemming from it.

And?

I know I am not the only person who stays logged in and not hidden throughout the day. Just because people are shown as being on doesn't mean they are engaged on The Syndicate. They could be cooking supper, working up a strong fantasy baseball lineup, or watching bootlegged episodes of Mama's Family in another tab.

So what makes these individuals more suspicious than before?

I agree with you here Epig. Seems JJJ wants to throw shade everywhere right now in his defense.

JJJ that seems odd to me from the last game I played with you.

Everyone who has visited this thread without commenting on the matter at hand is more suspicious than before.

Elohcin and S~V~S were around but did not comment on the claimed red peek or the discussion stemming from it.

And?

I know I am not the only person who stays logged in and not hidden throughout the day. Just because people are shown as being on doesn't mean they are engaged on The Syndicate. They could be cooking supper, working up a strong fantasy baseball lineup, or watching bootlegged episodes of Mama's Family in another tab.

So what makes these individuals more suspicious than before?

Showing up, posting nothing, and leaving is not the same thing as "staying". Elhocin did post as well, just not about this issue.

I think one potential baddie response to JJJ making a scene is to not touch it with a ten foot pole.

I don't know. Sometimes I like to see an argument play out before I comment. Do you usually make a scene? I know you make huge posts but this is the first time I've seen you make a scene. My game pool with you is extremely small thoough.

[Epignosis]

I showed Epignosis why his case doesn't work, and instead of stepping back to reconsider or even expanding his argument to compensate, he doubled down on the attacks that I've shown to be invalid. Then instead of showing me why I'm the illogical party in the exchange, he posted a bullshit meme to give himself a pass for unreasonable stubbornness.

Please remove him from the premises.

You are bad.

[Epignosis]

I voted 3J.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I agree with you here Epig. Seems JJJ wants to throw shade everywhere right now in his defense.

JJJ that seems odd to me from the last game I played with you.

I said that before I was defending myself.

I don't know. Sometimes I like to see an argument play out before I comment. Do you usually make a scene? I know you make huge posts but this is the first time I've seen you make a scene. My game pool with you is extremely small thoough.

I'm not talking about the argument, I'm talking about the claimed/withheld red peek.

It's inherently easier to make a scene when infodumping is legal, which isn't generally the case here. It's not unusual for me to try reactive tactics like this though. I did a lot of in Turf Wars recently.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You are bad.

You had front row seats to me being bad. You're well aware that this isn't it.

If you are just wrong, I certainly tried my best to show you that. Good talk.

[Polo]

Polo, if you were playing this Mafia game at a more active pace and another player had the amount of content that you have in this game, how do you think you would read that player?

#certifiedaskerofquestions

I'd be ok with lynching that person for I believe in eliminating inactive people from the game.

It's Friday, finally, and I have some time!

JJJ vs. Epi exchange sounds interesting, and I'm inclined to distrust Epignosis' aggressive style.

Wilgy still bothers me.

More reading to follow.

2.01

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm done defending myself. Y'all read and make your judgments. Without a laptop my ability to play this game is already severely hampered. When I'm here I'll be hunting.

[rabbit8]

I agree with you here Epig. Seems JJJ wants to throw shade everywhere right now in his defense.

JJJ that seems odd to me from the last game I played with you.

I said that before I was defending myself.

I don't know. Sometimes I like to see an argument play out before I comment. Do you usually make a scene? I know you make huge posts but this is the first time I've seen you make a scene. My game pool with you is extremely small thoough.

I'm not talking about the argument, I'm talking about the claimed/withheld red peek.

It's inherently easier to make a scene when infodumping is legal, which isn't generally the case here. It's not unusual for me to try reactive tactics like this though. I did a lot of in Turf Wars recently.

I'll take that into account upon my read through.

I know you where defending yourself. Did you think calling players out for not getting in the middle of your argument was a good idea? It seemed out of place to me. Frustration can be a bitch though.

[rabbit8]

Polo, if you were playing this Mafia game at a more active pace and another player had the amount of content that you have in this game, how do you think you would read that player?

#certifiedaskerofquestions

I'd be ok with lynching that person for I believe in eliminating inactive people from the game.

It's Friday, finally, and I have some time!

JJJ vs. Epi exchange sounds interesting, and I'm inclined to distrust Epignosis' aggressive style.

Wilgy still bothers me.

More reading to follow.

2.01

Interesting.