Sigh 20 minutes, 6 non voters and myself not on either lynch. 2 probably won't vote, which means 5 possible votes. This might get, interesting?
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
28 minutes my bad. Dys and Elo I guess could vote though, I just realized I don't recall a single Tink post either, there must have been one or so. G-Man forcing a coin flip or a vote change from someone concerns me that neither are scum.
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
So i have to be honest. I'm on vacation. I've been at the water park all day and atm I'm listening to a bedtime story with my kids. I have not read everything from today, only a few posts. I believe I can trust Tink and DDL. And I think possibly LC too. I know we don't have much time...
Banners are cool, but a pain to scroll through so...
I've won a lot of games. I've hosted some games. The end.
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
Forcing a tie, argument against timmer is more convincing, at least from a meta perspective
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
Well that's ridiculous. A person who named Tink as someone she thinks she can trust will decide the lynch. Tink, with a whole three posts, of zero substance. What is there to trust there to make that judgement? Absurd.
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:34 pm
About to leave gym, let's see what I missed
He says innocently
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
I was mostly joking, though I don't know how the vote is gonna go. Interesting stuff went down.
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Insult to injury- timmer's lynch confirms that all three of the Day 1 lynch trains were civvies. That will actually help me during my re-read. RIP Timmer. Looks my Day 0 vote was wasted after all.
G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:50 pm
Insult to injury- timmer's lynch confirms that all three of the Day 1 lynch trains were civvies. That will actually help me during my re-read. RIP Timmer. Looks my Day 0 vote was wasted after all.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:47 am
Wilgy, what do you offer this game?
Same thing I offer every game LC, a perspective that you can't truly prove that I actually have. Most of y'all can't even prove that I truley exist for that matter... at least outside that of concept and theory. The concept of existence itself is the only truth.
here's to hoping the hosts answer my question. I think I have a good idea.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:47 am
Wilgy, what do you offer this game?
Same thing I offer every game LC, a perspective that you can't truly prove that I actually have. Most of y'all can't even prove that I truley exist for that matter... at least outside that of concept and theory. The concept of existence itself is the only truth.
here's to hoping the hosts answer my question. I think I have a good idea.
Geez. You shoulda led with the "good idea". Way stronger.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Intriguing results to my re-read so far. If the baddies NK me, I may still take notes as I follow along just to see if I can work this thing out. Never enough time these days it seems.
Here's my full thoughts and why I was asking about ties. If this is where typing comes into play (A tie resulting in a battle), it means we can narrow down the survivor's role. This would be entirely in thread information as well so no infodumping.
Bulbasuar as a Grass/Poison could be beat by a super effective hit by the following civilian roles:
Pidgey
Snover
Ralts
Torchic
Mew
The following Mafia roles:
Inkay
Gastly
And he could be beaten by Mewtwo
Boo is likely one of these above.
While this is widespread, this may become very helpful come later game if we vote into ties and begin ruling out roles.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
I'm not voting in ties just to turn the most powerful civilian weapon we have, the lynch, into an unstable role analysis tool that kills the revealed player.
Not sure if all that makes sense.
But yeah, if the tie was decided like that, then that's cool.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:05 pm
Or, each voter has a weighted vote based on their type and their vote-target's type, and there was no tie?
This is what I thought for abit, but after looking at the typing of the mafia, this would be imbalanced for certain roles i.e. Bulbasuar who would have been hit double by 2 of the mafia. Unless there was a power to offset this I dont think it's the case.
If this is the case, however, we may want to look for baddies on the Timmer wagon.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:06 pm
I'm not voting in ties just to turn the most powerful civilian weapon we have, the lynch, into an unstable role analysis tool that kills the revealed player.
Not sure if all that makes sense.
But yeah, if the tie was decided like that, then that's cool.
It makes sense and I agree. I think it's more of a if we have the leisure to do so thing. If we have the chance for added info, take it. Y'know? A scenario where this would be helpful may be when/if we vote per say 2 individuals who haven't touched the thread yet?
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Tink is so aggressively apathetic I want to lynch him/her just for that. The whole whing days zero about their alignment though, unfortunately.
G-man seems detatched. Im having a bad feeling about him.
Boo... I still want to believe in my read, but this lynch has forced me to evaluate it, and some of his posts do seem forced. Some players are just weird though, I dunno.
DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:58 pm
What don't people like about G-Man? He's not a super high poster, but I'm getting a genuine attempt at helpfulness from him.
Boo, you said before you wanted to lynch LC. Is this still the case?
I want to see the NK before I answer that. I think LC and I will both survive it, but if that isn't the case, my thoughts for where we should take things d3 aren't helpful.
Tink is so aggressively apathetic I want to lynch him/her just for that. The whole whing days zero about their alignment though, unfortunately.
G-man seems detatched. Im having a bad feeling about him.
Boo... I still want to believe in my read, but this lynch has forced me to evaluate it, and some of his posts do seem forced. Some players are just weird though, I dunno.
If by distracted you mean sneaking the start of a mafia game in behind the wife's back on a weekend and working 11-hour days ever since, while trying to read the game and take notes when I have a spare minute or two (not to mention using my entire lunch break to read while shoveling calories into my mouth), only to go home and sneak mafia in behind the wife's back before and after the kids go to bed... Yeah, you got me.
So I have no clue how I will actually keep up with this game while on vacation. I will vote for someone for evolve points and be on my merry way. I will be back home and ready to play on the 4th. Please don't lynch me or kill me.
Linki:. Gman and his mistress, mafia. Shame, shame.
Banners are cool, but a pain to scroll through so...
I've won a lot of games. I've hosted some games. The end.
Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm
So I have no clue how I will actually keep up with this game while on vacation. I will vote for someone for evolve points and be on my merry way. I will be back home and ready to play on the 4th. Please don't lynch me or kill me.
Linki:. Gman and his mistress, mafia. Shame, shame.
Indeed, mafia is my mistress. That seductive whore's pull on me is strong. Thankfully, other forms of infidelity are not in my DNA.
My notes are incomplete. I'm on page 8, but here's what I got so far. I jotted down a note to correspond with every post other players make. We'll see if it needs to be split up....
~~Day0~~
-I caught'em all
-declaring your evo vote is a bad idea
-"no kidding" @ DDL's 'probably can't stop kills with evo blockage' comment
-poking holes (or not quite?) in enforcement plan
-Thinks pokemon type will impact voting (why speculate this?)
~~Day1~~
-@LC- why am I pingy?
-Votes LC for his drive-by vote of Boo
-Irrelevant
-Irrelevant
-Calls LC out with truth
-Calls LC a hypocrite and he ignored Boo's question
~~Night1~~
-Gives LC his hypocrite example
-Points out Nutella's suss journey to him with clarity
-EBWOP
-Argle-bargle @LC
~~Day0~~
-Asks mechanics question
-Not crazy about coordination plan and initial list- too much probability for empowering baddies or voting for non-evo roles; rotate players each day to get everyone in on it
-His list: G-man, Boo, DDL, Dyslexicon {come back to this}
-Hits back at Jack- rotation, not random
~~Day1~~
-Asks speed if he already voted for Day 0
-Won't be back before deadline; No suspicions; randomized non-posters = Tony
~~Night1~~
-Missed the vote becuase... shopping {that's a new one}; says he'd have voted DF or Timmer
~~Day0~~
-Gimme evo points!; throws up a Pokemon chart of unknown usefullness
-Corrects timmer's post about Evee (gets more evo options)
-Double post
-Triple post
-Notes the multi-posting phenomenon
-More talk on chart of unknown usefullness
-Would rather keep the votes secret so baddies can't plot who to kill in an attempt to time kills to knock out potentially evolving players
-Can't stop the kill from preventing baddie evolution but they can block town powers by messing with pre-planned evolution vote scheme
-Sees some logic in public voting
-Evolving six means baddies have to catch up with their kills; second evo stage a wrinkle
-How do we know baddies keeping their side of the evo vote bargain?
-Day ends too soon to coordinate Day 0 votes
-Irrelevant
-Skeptical but open to evo coordination
-Linki: yeah
-Throws out a bunch of role interaction examples
-Why not six?
-Okay with list but wants to evolve at some point too
-Town roles are weak
-Doesn't like to see someone say 'baddie roles are useless' so nonchalantly
-His list: Boo, G-Man, Dyslexicon, Nutella, Speed, DFaraday {come back to this}
-Make lists, not talk
-Double post
-End the debate and actually move forward on this
-Let's do something!
-Oh to hell with it, plan flailing on Day 0 now anyway
-Feels weird to not be #1 target in a Day 1 for a change
-Tried to be democratic, now stuck with Jack's list
-Arbitrary @ Jack
-Sees Dyslexicon on lots of lists, evo vote there
-Arbitrary @ Jack
~~Day1~~
-Coordination dead already? ; Asks questions he should know the answer to- we can't say if evolved!
-Irrelevant
-Confusion on evo voting
-We can coordinate but no one seems to care
-@Jack- Yes, coordination is still a good idea
-@Jack- semantics; Tells Jack to vote for him
-@Jack- more semantics
-@Eloh- who did you evo vote for?
-@Jack- whatev
-@Jack- Why do I appear dishonest
-Sus of Timmer for saying he won't vote for evo vote whores; Would expect people not wanting votes to be baddies b/c they have teammates to help them; Timmer disappeared, evo voted, and took off again- plans to vote for him
-Irrelevant
-Says he thinks Jack is town; Coordinating window is closing for D1
-Where's Mac?
-Irrelevant
-If not coordinating, we should probably not announce intentions
-Irrelevant
-Thinks voting non-posters is a waste {comes right after DF's vote for Tony}
-Thought Boo seemed good for same post others got pinged by- unlikely baddies would be so vocal against a civvie plan with some momentum
-@Fred- Where I come from, inactives are just modkilled
-@Fred- people who post provide us with interactions with other players
-Not a fan of Wilgy's ? about is Jack is a teammate
-Would vote Dom over Mac because he's read Mac right before; Wants to get to know Dom's style
-Doesn't have a solid answer for Fred- It depends
-@Fred- a timmer lynch depends on how he defends himself, who defneds him, and how voters attack him; In lynching an inactive, we don't engage each other
-Feels least good about LC of the four he was asked about lynching {kind of annoying when he doesn't quote- linkbacks and context help; probably just preference but it disrupts interaction analysis}
-Enough questions. Sheesh
-Time check
-Thinks Epi will modkill Tony for claiming- wants us to vote elsewhere
-Irrelevant
-Thinks inactives should be mod-killed come Day 2; Mafia want to lynch inactives because they don't have to justify their vote and they can avoid questions
-@Fred- duh dude
-@Fred- Epi won't replace inactives?
-Lurker lynches on D1 rare {huh?}
-Irrelevant
-@Fred- Irrelevant
~~Day0~~
-Nothing useful
-Mechanics pondering- how does type help/hurt?
~~Day1~~
-Won't vote for Dyslexicon; may evo vote for Jack or DDL; How about a tie?
-Maybe Pokemon type is a tie-breaker (@ Eloh)
-Points out 6 more hours for Day 0 evo votes
-@Jack- When do you accept something half-assed {?}
-Irrelevant
-@ALL- Who would we choose to lynch between DDL and Jack? Tony, Dom, Mac?
-Recalls Timmer's past random voting as a baddie
~~Day0~~
-Nothing useful- alludes to Vomping it?
-Open to receiving votes
-Good rebuff of Speed's "pile on one person" post; Pontificates pros and cons of publically declaring who we vote for; Evolution strategy- work in threes
-Soft town claim
-Rationalizing the merits of an open voting system with coordination
-Plotting tracing of evo votes
-Probably too late to pull this off Day 0
-Lot of positive thinking, little substance
-Cat butt scan
-Notices that I misread about baddies and evolution; General response to my questions
-Responds to boo- hadn't considered lying about evo; wishful thinking about mafia not wanting to mess with vote coordination/enforcement
-Responds to boo's weighted vote theory- irrelevant?
-Just make it six people and run with it
~~Day1~~
-Asks Jack why they weren't on his list; agrees w/ me about consensus for coordinated evo voting
-Considering Nutella, Timmer, DDL, DFaraday {come back to this}
-Disagrees with notion that he didn't want points
-Oh crap @ 24-hour phases
-LOL let's just lynch Jack
-OT and promise to catch up
-Votes Jack for no reason at all
~~Day0~~
-Says she voted for smart, good-thinker, and a civ read- yay game {last minute}
-Sort of a double post
~~Day1~~
-Ties = duel to death (relevant?)
-Sees reasoning in a Timmer vote {why?}
-Thanks Fred for clarifying Never's mishap
-Likes Tink's reason for voting Tony (non-participant)- votes Tony as well
~~Day1~~
-RL/I was drunk yesterday. Promise to catch up
-Irrelevant
-People going way too deep into evo process; Jack seems civ; Dyslexicon seems civ; Good vibes from speed; feels okay about DDL; G-Man pings me- {an awful lot of analysis over not much content from me- reading into it?}
-Irrelevant
-Irrelevant
-Irrelevant
-Vote list akin to a read list at this point; Just produce a green range to vote into {sensible}
-Not much info to gather from any lynch; Few people taking stands yet
-Explains Never's nutella vote to Eloh
-Irrelevant
-Oh crap- speed game is short!
-OT wit
-We could lynch a non-poster; Also feels bas voting for anyone
-Agrees with LC's Boo-Ping; says similar to his ping on G-Man
-@Jack- similar ping on Boo as he had on me- arguing against negatives of a plan that is more helpful than hurtful seems obstructive
-Lynching inactives is "perfectly acceptable"- asks DDL which active player lynch will yield most info
-EBWOP
-Says DDL dodged his question
-Asks what a Timmer lynch can tell us
-Talks mafia theory- three ways to evaluate people and how non-participants impact that
-More theory: Day 1's usually provide little, can also be used for framing- thinks eliminating inactives more beneficial than killing talkers
-Irrelevant of distracting {can't tell which}
-Double post
-Oh, now I see Tony's claim
-More inactive theory
-Votes Timmer to force a random lynch {assumption}
-Irrelevant; Hopes for replacements
~~Day0~~
-Lynch/game mechanics question; suggestsdeclaring evo votes
-Says he doesn't want evo points- keep a target off of him, OT stuff
-Big list of everyone and why he will/won't consider giving them evo points {this list is useless as he was civvie- nothing to read into or glean from it connectionally, as it came so early and without any observation on in-game play}
-Thinks Dsylexicon is civ based on pontification post
-Likes the idea of picking six players to evolve Day 0; Anticipates resistance
-Thinking through coordination mechanics/enforcement
-Irrelevant
-Also notices my lack of reading comprehension; Defends the plan
-Irrelevant
-Likes Speed's idea, suggests five names (Fred, Tony, LC, Nutella, Speed)
-Not worried about evolving baddies
-Philosophical discussion about powers
-Philosophizing
-Scumreads DDL
-Throws shade at me
-Defends against DFaraday's and my poo-pooing
-Arbitrary
-Okay with democracy in next round of evo voting
-Arbitrary @ DDL
~~Day1~~
-Evo vote for Tony
-Asks DDL if he thinks coordination is good idea
-@Dyslexicon- not onl list because you said you didn't want evo points
-@DDL- for someone open to coordination, you sure do argue against it
-@Wilgy- half-assed- specific?
-@Wilgy- irrelevant
-@DDL- Arguing over coordination- inconsistency and appearance of dishonesty
-More banter with DDL
-@Fred- irrelevant
-@DDL- points out how DDL's words may paint Jack negatively {interpretation though}
-Irrelevant
-Irrelevant
-No reason not to announce who you evo vote for; Wants to hear reasons why people don't want to share their vote intentions; Plans to vote for Dyslexicon N1
-@DDL, you passively argue against coordination- say you are for it but come up with ways to rationalize not doing it
-Not voting DDL because he's got a lot of content; He's got pings but he wants active discussion; Would rather pass on active scum than let passive scum slide
-@G-Man- Aw poo, I missed the enforcement-breaking post
-EBWOP
-OT
-Claims opinions on only very few people
-@Fred/LC- Why is boo pingy?
-Irrelevant @Dyslexicon
-@DDL- Thinks voting for nons is okay- he's been screwed over in past games by no-show baddies- makes it hard to read
-Tony active elsewhere and shouldn't need sub
-@Wilgy- says he'd vote DDL over Jack {duh} and Mac over Dom
-Votes Mac
-Feels better about DDL; Not crazy about reasonless votes
-Wants to see votes listed in thread too
-Irrelevant
~~Night1~~
-Not thinking Boo bad from that- needs more time; Could go with a Boo or Timmer lynch; Townreads LC, Speed*; Feels okay about Nutella and Wilgy; No read on Fred; Dyslexicon and G-Man take a hit for voting him but slight townread on Dyslexicon
-EBWOP
~~Day1~~
-Oops- Game started without me
-Speed voted for him {?} and he's open to forming an evo vote alliance; claims an evolving civvie role
-Won't vote for Speed or Dom
-Slight sus of boo's comment about evo vote declaration helping baddies; Votes Boo
-Can see potential evidence of Boo looking at vote stacking from a baddie mindset {doesn't mean much- I always try to think like a baddie when civ}
-Calls Boo's truth an OMGUS, WIFOM, says Boo is getting too upset of a little thing- calls it forced {I disagree}
-Back up the hypocrite claim
-It's up to the reader to interpret thinking like a baddie as civ or baddie leaning {possible subtle jab, as if to suggest Boo is telling people how to think; coaching?}
~~Night1~~
-Can we vote now? {right after lynch post- what do you think?}
-GIF headroll @ Boo
-Vote whoring up to speedchuck
-Says he didn't see Epi banning double-voting with evo {I mean... come on}; WIFOM slushy
~~Day1~~
-Oops! Voted Nutella- {doesn't realize votes are changeable}; Sorry I missed Day 0; I'm rusty, bear with me
-Double post
-@speed- Can you explain how voting works?
-@speed- Ok- I meant to evo vote Nutella, not lynch vote her
-@speed- Why Dom?
-Apologizes for nutella vote mishap- no reads yet
-OT wit
~~Day0~~
-evolve me!
-Likes Jack's eval post; Open to giving points to (Fred, LC, Tony, Nutella) Jack, G-Man, Timmer {these names could be useful later}; Dizzy most likely out due to non-game content- says hosts may want to replace {slight ping here but very slight}
-Her list: Jack, G-Man, Long Con, Speed, Dyslexicon, Timmer {come back to this}
-Evo vote deadline question
-Says she evo voted
~~Day1~~
-Soft defense of Never, Agrees with DDL's wariness of Timmer; {almost too much explanation}
-Oh right, it's a speed game
~~Night1~~
-Oops! Missed the vote. Agrees with LC's suss on Boo- Occam's Razor {which has a spotty track record}
-Tries to add depth to her Boo suss glom {not sure it's sound thinking}
~~Day0~~
-piling points onto one person is silly
-not used to no role claiming allowed; okay with getting points; I'm bad vanilla
-not enough time to organize- want to bias the game for six people?
-Groups of six now, assigned votes N1
-Anyone disagree with Jack's list?
-Hey, it's Jack's list. Ask him.
-Disagrees with Sprityo's "nobody empowered better than baddie empowered"
-Prefers groups of votes, not necessarily assigning
~~Day1~~
-Still hopeful for coordination; tell me who to vote for {curious}
-Post-deadline, hopefully folks have powers D1
-@Never- "panicked" over lynch comment- clarifies just a vote
-@Never- explains vote process
-ponders lynching Dom {lining up low/nons?}
-@Never- "seems like a good idea" {why?}; engages Fred
-oops, Dom hasn't even posted, maybe Dyslexicon? {why?}
-Irrelevant
-Still open to coordinating evo votes
-OT
-Feels bad voting for anyone D1- not much to read into yet
~~Night1~~
-Obliges LC's vote whoring {did he vote LC D0?}
~~Day0~~
-OT intro
-It would be cool to evolve Evee; Won't vote for people publically saying they'd like votes
~~Day1~~
-Oops evo vote deadline missed {but not really}
-Completely adrift; No suspicions; Need to catch up
-Votes Dom for no real reason
-@Wilgy's meta awareness- smirk
-Announces his vote switch
-@G-Man- noble smiley
~~Day0~~
-Hi
-Irrelevant
-Jumps on the "now wait a second with this list" thing {late to the party?}
-Why force deadlines for opinions/reads? No enforcement
-Nobody getting a power would be better than mafia getting one
-List: Speed, Dom, Jack, DrWilgy, LC, Mac {come back to this}
~~Day1~~
-@ Fred- smilies
-Oh wow, the day's almost over
-Agrees with Dyslexicon & votes Jack
-Admits no reason for voting Jack
-Tony could sub back in for an inactive
-Irrelevant (comment on a Pokemon pic)
-Irrelevant
-Irrelevant
-Aspires to be useful overnight
~~Night1~~
-Feels inclined to disagree {but doesn't actually disagree} with Nutella glomming onto LC's suss of Boo
-Innocent until proven guilty
-Irrelevant {I think?}
here's to hoping the hosts answer my question. I think I have a good idea.
