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It was not my finest hour, despite digging up Sprityo's lists to dissect. I'm going to revisit those at lunch.
Sprityo's Preferred Lynch List:Fredwood
Neverwhere
Nutella
Sprityo
Tink
People Sprityo Omitted From His List:Boo
Quin/Dom
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Eloh
G-Man
DFaraday
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
MacDougall
It's been a quiet game but we've got to start looking for connections to Sprityo. Two of us are his teammates. Whom did he address directly? Whom did he talk about in general? Whom did he say absolutely nothing to or about? Flip it around- who among us addressed him directly, in general, or not at all? I'm going to keep digging.
Only if I'm the moderator.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:00 pm Any way we could get a deadchat somewhere? That'd be cool.
Why is my Eloh vote suspicious? I didn't see any reason to vote Fred at the time (I'm still not that keen on voting him).nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:20 pm 1. Fredwood, maybe Neverwhere
2. DrWilgy maybe? Tougher list
3. Absolutely DF. I've been thinking DF is likely bad since I skimmed sprit's iso earlier today and saw him question a suspicion of DF (from DDL I believe?) and thought that could be a soft teammate defense/deflection. Then DF's vote for Eloh today, so if Fred turns out to be bad that seals DF for me.
@Eloh: I do, lol, and I think you're both civ and people who don't just don't know you.
Link me if you get one.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:00 pm Any way we could get a deadchat somewhere? That'd be cool.
I've explained most of it as best as I can. Wilgy (I guess it was Wilgy, I keep mixing up his posts and DDL's) said a few days ago that he thought DF should be "on the chopping block" and IMO sprit's questioning of why sounded like how a teammate might respond to an unexplained suspicion. It's got some WIFOM I guess, or to others it might seem too close to a too-eager defense since DF wasn't really facing a dangerous amount of suspicion, but I already had a weird feeling from DF anyway (I think his meta/style is pinging me bc he's usually quieter as a civ) so there might be some bias to my assessment but he is the one that stuck out to me most in Sprit's ISO. Also, just the fact that sprit only mentions DF that one time, and he's otherwise omitted from all of his lists (he was in G-Man's 3rd category). It's hard to guess where Sprit would have placed his teammates in either his trust/evolution lists or suspicion lists, but I wouldn't be surprised if he left at least one teammate out of both.
I don't allow dead chat for a number of reasons. The primary reason (for me) is that dead mafia can still hang out in BTSC. Also, I am not always able to police who goes into what chat room when and under what name. Finally, the less anybody knows...the better.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:00 pm Any way we could get a deadchat somewhere? That'd be cool.
You literally say this about me every single game we're in together anymore. At some point, if every game is the exception to the rule, it's not an exception, it's the rule. I know I'm only focusing on that one line, I'm just really tired of hearing that.
Of course. 
I would recommend you start posting in Non-Player Blue, because you got replaced, bub.
And you still flinched like a red headed stepchild.
This sounds very silly to me. From my perspective, in a game where powers are essentially given by 'election', worrying about being counterproductive doesn't make sense when you should be worrying about whether you made a mistake in helping someone evolve.
This post does not make me happy. It turns the obvious (nutella's involvement in the evolution vote scheme making her a prominent night kill target) into an attempt to make nutella look contradictory, which seems to be boo's general thoughts about nutella's Day 1.boo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:52 pmVotes are being spread around, but you're probably going to die because votes aren't being spread around.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:30 pmHere's the post boo is taking all of these assumptions from. "Spreading votes around among the people we think we trust" is exactly what I am doing for the next few nights. I am not piling votes on one player, because for one thing -- bear with me here as this might be hard for you to understand -- it's not allowed. If it were allowed, I suspect only baddies would do it; I don't trust anyone enough at this point to give them evo points two nights in a row. And as I have said multiple times, I don't know whether LC and Speed intended for the pact to last longer, but I personally have not committed to it for more than two nights, so if I end up targeting one of them a second time after that it would be because I strongly trusted them.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:02 pmIn general, I start with the former as well. It's just that in this case, with Boo having asked about repeat targeting for evo votes, I think it is more likely that he is bad and was asking because he wants to evolve a teammate. It makes less sense for a civilian to want to repeat target evo votes, at least at the beginning of the game when we're not sure who's good -- it's better to spread them around among the people we think we trust.
Wut?
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:59 pmSounds like a pity party, sorry Nutella.
They way you're going about dying is misleading in its own light. I mean you're saying that you're FOR SURE, 100% getting two evo points. If that's not a grab for attention, then I don't know what is. You're placing yourself on the very precarious town pedestal where if you don't die you become supa-town or highly suspicious mafia. But like you can't back your claims up with anything until you actually evolve. We don't have a way to confirm how many evo points you actually got. Or at least I assume?
What I'm getting at is stop doing that, and focus on solving the game instead of where YOU sit in it.
In reference to your suspicions howeverOh, so you're giving your word to be part of a long term plan, which by your own logic is something baddies would be looking to do, and you're already planning ahead to when you'll break it. Cool.boo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:00 pm [quote=nutella post_id=363207 time=<a href="tel:1498585942">1498585942</a> user_id=262]
As I see it, (since I didn't vote for one of them on night 0) I am voting for three different people on the first three nights of the game, which is as much "spreading" as is possible up to that point. After night 2, I will re-evaluate whether I want to stay in the pact or not, and I may well vote for someone else anyway. Get off my case, I'm just playing the game.
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:59 pmSounds like a pity party, sorry Nutella.
They way you're going about dying is misleading in its own light. I mean you're saying that you're FOR SURE, 100% getting two evo points. If that's not a grab for attention, then I don't know what is. You're placing yourself on the very precarious town pedestal where if you don't die you become supa-town or highly suspicious mafia. But like you can't back your claims up with anything until you actually evolve. We don't have a way to confirm how many evo points you actually got. Or at least I assume?
What I'm getting at is stop doing that, and focus on solving the game instead of where YOU sit in it.
In reference to your suspicions howeverOh, so you're giving your word to be part of a long term plan, which by your own logic is something baddies would be looking to do, and you're already planning ahead to when you'll break it. Cool.boo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:00 pm [quote=nutella post_id=363207 time=<a href="tel:1498585942">1498585942</a> user_id=262]
As I see it, (since I didn't vote for one of them on night 0) I am voting for three different people on the first three nights of the game, which is as much "spreading" as is possible up to that point. After night 2, I will re-evaluate whether I want to stay in the pact or not, and I may well vote for someone else anyway. Get off my case, I'm just playing the game.
sprityo condemns boo for his actions, but stops short of actually indicating suspicion. I did bold an exception, but that reads more of a 'this looks bad in a vacuum' type of analysis and says nothing about his overall opinion on boo. I am intrigued by sprityo's choice of words. To call boo's opinions a 'strategy' gives me reason to think that boo's mindset is fabricated.What boo has said here is Definitely twisting of words and looks awful. If not that then it's jumping to conclusions/assuming things in a negative light. Nutella put forth a decent plan to assign her votes and you just said nope "this is what you're actually going to do, even though I can't tell what you're thinking." It's a bad strategy and I suggest you stop arguing it and accept that you did something bad before you get yourself lynched. If you have a problem with being lynched that is
Here's a more ?direct? opinion on boo. nutella looks a good amount better than boo, but nutella is only a light town at best. I'm inferring sprityo was reading boo as at least light scum at this point.
lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:12 am I have no idea what is going on but spirityo gets my vote because of this post
Sprityo's Preferred Lynch List:Fredwood
Neverwhere
Nutella
Sprityo
Tink
People Sprityo Omitted From His List:Boo
Quin/Dom
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Eloh
G-Man
Of my list called dumb by Sprityo, only three are left. Do we take Eloh's defense of Tink to mean she had information on her? Eloh's role started out as 'psychic.' Could that mean info-gathering/cop-esque? If we assume yes, that leaves just Fredwood and Neverwhere to consider from that group. I will have to ISO Neverwhere again to see what might be there. Fredwood left me feeling somewhat better about him after we went back and forth the other day. I could still see him as the indy though, as his assertiveness came across as equal parts 'desire to help' and 'desire to survive.'DFaraday
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
MacDougall
It's a nickname some have been using for Dyslexicon. I'm going to look into a few other people before the deadline.
