Pokemon Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Dragon D. Luffy]

says Fred looks better than G-Man.

That sounds like a good way of defending Fred while not directly connecting himself to him, since Fred is only "better than someone else".

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Or attacking Gman in a very soft way.

Anyway I bet one of those two is bad.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Fredwood is still bad obviously. He scum slipped.

Example?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Could that mean info-gathering/cop-esque?

Why are you assuming Elo's first role had abilities to begin with?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm almost taking the Dizzy wagon but I'm tired of easy lynches. They aren't working.

I wanna go crazy this time.

Votes Gman

[Neverwhere]

Gman is a tough one. He's been the most helpful and other members aren't mentioning him as much.

Reading back over sprityos posts, the two people that stand out to me in that are Mac and Dfaraday. I have a bit of scum read on Mac. Dfaraday I wasn't sure, but there were a few posts where sprit seemed kind of defensive / asked a few times why he was on the chopping block without saying much more.

I'm torn between them but I really need to vote before bed.

[Neverwhere]

Fuck it, I'm voting Mac. Sorry to spread the votes around.

[G-Man]

Could that mean info-gathering/cop-esque?

Why are you assuming Elo's first role had abilities to begin with?

If Mew and Mewtwo are listed with abilities but cannot evolve, why wouldn't the first role description listed for Eloh be her first power? If someone is listed as 'normal' on the role list, I assume that to mean vanilla. How have you been interpreting it? That everyone starts as vanilla until they evolve?

[G-Man]

I'm torn. Having a consensus lynchee or two is nice. Keeping our options spread wide open until the deadline has its merits too. Today just feels like it's too wide open. Four votes so far for four different people. Three of those four are likely to be around at the deadline to vote anywhere they need to out of self-preservation. Dyslexicon has been MIA for a while, so I have my doubts that he (she?) will be back. If so, then that's a fourth self-preservation vote in the mix. This EOD could descend into utter chaos if we don't get some clarity.

Does anyone have other player observations to share? The holiday makes it tough for us all to participate, so anything, no matter how small, may help.

[DrWilgy]

Thoughts on all players atm.

Boo - Where your head at? I need to reveiw your recent input. Following the Sprityo lynching I still feel good about you.

DF - I feel rather null towards you, but tone wise and meta related I read you as civ. Regarding Nutella's suspicion of you, I disagree. Reviewing that interaction, I felt that Sprityo was trying to focus on me rather you. If you were mafia, I think you would have caught my eye more.

DDL - I'm still suspicious of you. Your recent votes have been bad and idk know why you are voting Gman now.

Dizzy - time to die homie.

Fredwood - I also dislike your vote pattern. I agree with suspicions voiced against you. Mainly Mac.

G-Man - You are one of the few I feel is legitimately hunting... or at least encouraging hunting.

Mac - This guy was too pumped after Sprits death to be bad.

Neverwhere - also somewhat null. I can see you being bad while knowing to ask the right questions, but... your asking the right questions and it makes me feel good about you.

Quin - bruh, you need to stop this lengthy catch up and share recent opinions.

Tink - where u at fam?

Tl;dr let's kill Dizzy, fred, or ddl in that order.

[G-Man]

Is anyone suspicious of Dragon D. Luffy or DrWilgy? According to my spreadsheet, neither one has received a vote all game. There's been mentions of them but never any votes. Neverwhere hasn't received any votes either but her circumstances are different. DDL and Wilgy have plenty of content to comb through and haven't had as many things holding them back from the thread. Perhaps these folks haven't been high enough on our suspiciometers or perhaps we collectively latch onto other options that push them aside.

Thoughts?

Linki: well then. Hi there Wilgy. Any other thoughts on Dyslexicon, DDL, or Fred? What other specifics stand out to you?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Could that mean info-gathering/cop-esque?

Why are you assuming Elo's first role had abilities to begin with?

If Mew and Mewtwo are listed with abilities but cannot evolve, why wouldn't the first role description listed for Eloh be her first power? If someone is listed as 'normal' on the role list, I assume that to mean vanilla. How have you been interpreting it? That everyone starts as vanilla until they evolve?

Eh... yes?

You are either Mew or Mewtwo.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Voting Fred for now then. I dont wanna risk lynching the wrong legendary.

[G-Man]

Could that mean info-gathering/cop-esque?

Why are you assuming Elo's first role had abilities to begin with?

If Mew and Mewtwo are listed with abilities but cannot evolve, why wouldn't the first role description listed for Eloh be her first power? If someone is listed as 'normal' on the role list, I assume that to mean vanilla. How have you been interpreting it? That everyone starts as vanilla until they evolve?

Eh... yes?

You are either Mew or Mewtwo.

I'm just paying attention.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Normal is a type like any other. Has nothing to do with abilities. Normal pokemon are usually cute things like rodents and birds, and most mammals. They lack some distinct elemental feature that would give them a different type.

Psychic is another type, and is more often associated with emitting powerful bursts of mental damage than obtaining information. Though Elo's role was a telephatical pokemon, so there is a good chance she has some kind of info gathering ability.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Or you are one of the other normals. Like Munchlax.

[DrWilgy]

Interesting Gman, I didn't notice that. Would you say that we are both floaty or fluffy? You managed to not throw any opinions about either of us while looking at us. Why?

I've said all I care to regarding Dizzy, the case is simple, I'm not confident in it, but I'm confident that we need to not enable this afk gameplay. Sprityo never hard pushing for wallflowers reassures me, but it's hard to judge someone who's not here.

With fred I'd have to go back and find the exact instances that I agreed with him being bad.

DDL has assured us of his "bad civ game" and followed suit. I need to see some good civ game. Him asking me if i was trying to set him up to scum slip was my initial ping and it hasn't changed.

What are your thoughts on these 3 G-Man?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Point is, while a normal pokemon doesn't have a distinct element, they instead fight with body slams and headbutts and other physical attacks. Or they attack with sound. Still abilities, just not elemental.

Munchlax evolves into a juggernaut that while still normal is pretty strong.

[DrWilgy]

Voting Fred for now then. I dont wanna risk lynching the wrong legendary.

Mew is mythic, not legendary

[Dragon D. Luffy]

DDL has assured us of his "bad civ game" and followed suit. I need to see some good civ game. Him asking me if i was trying to set him up to scum slip was my initial ping and it hasn't changed.

Well that's the only way I could interpret your motivaton for asking that.

[Abigail Sophia]

Tink - where u at fam?

I've been on vacation and trying to get ahead.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Voting Fred for now then. I dont wanna risk lynching the wrong legendary.

Mew is mythic, not legendary

They are all legendary in my heart.

[DrWilgy]

DDL has assured us of his "bad civ game" and followed suit. I need to see some good civ game. Him asking me if i was trying to set him up to scum slip was my initial ping and it hasn't changed.

Well that's the only way I could interpret your motivaton for asking that.

You must have pretty limited sight then. Also... civs can't scum slip.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Just to end this: normal's biggest downside is that nothing is weak to them.

Though normals are only weak to fighting so it's still decent. A normal with good defenses can be a pain to take down.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also... civs can't scum slip.

Sure, but you didn't know if I were a civ or not when you asked that question (and still don't).

[G-Man]

Normal is a type like any other. Has nothing to do with abilities. Normal pokemon are usually cute things like rodents and birds, and most mammals. They lack some distinct elemental feature that would give them a different type.

Psychic is another type, and is more often associated with emitting powerful bursts of mental damage than obtaining information. Though Elo's role was a telephatical pokemon, so there is a good chance she has some kind of info gathering ability.

I know nothing about Pokemon types. I assumed it was connected to role/powers. Wouldn't info gathering make more sense from 'psychic' than 'fairy'? Maybe I'm trying to force familiar mafia role powers onto Pokemon types.

[Abigail Sophia]

I think we're going to want to return to these lists overnight and also on Day 5. For now, I don't trust the Eloh option.

I'm going against my better judgement anyway. Voting Eloh.

Let your yes be yes and your no be no.

So if you said yes that Eloh is good, then that's your guess, and so you can't change your mind and say no and vote to lynch her.

[DrWilgy]

Just to end this: normal's biggest downside is that nothing is weak to them.

Though normals are only weak to fighting so it's still decent. A normal with good defenses can be a pain to take down.

Not if you focus blast them. Then they need high special defenses.

Also you can status them, as they have no natural resistances.

Memes.

Also... civs can't scum slip.

Sure, but you didn't know if I were a civ or not when you asked that question (and still don't).

Doesn't matter, a civ can't scum slip. The notion of me baiting a scum slip naturally won't be a civ worry.

I think we're going to want to return to these lists overnight and also on Day 5. For now, I don't trust the Eloh option.

I'm going against my better judgement anyway. Voting Eloh.

Let your yes be yes and your no be no.

So if you said yes that Eloh is good, then that's your guess, and so you can't change your mind and say no and vote to lynch her.

I'm sorry Tink. She's gone...

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Normal is a type like any other. Has nothing to do with abilities. Normal pokemon are usually cute things like rodents and birds, and most mammals. They lack some distinct elemental feature that would give them a different type.

Psychic is another type, and is more often associated with emitting powerful bursts of mental damage than obtaining information. Though Elo's role was a telephatical pokemon, so there is a good chance she has some kind of info gathering ability.

I know nothing about Pokemon types. I assumed it was connected to role/powers. Wouldn't info gathering make more sense from 'psychic' than 'fairy'? Maybe I'm trying to force familiar mafia role powers onto Pokemon types.

Info gathering isnt common into a game like pokemon, so I'd wager the hosts would put it on whatever individual mon fit it more.

But you made a good guess. Eloh's role is telepathic, so it fits more than most.

[Abigail Sophia]

Elohcin
6
50%
Voters: DrWilgy, Dragon D. Luffy, DFaraday, G-Man, Neverwhere, Fredwood

I'm coming for you guys one by one...starting with G-Man.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Doesn't matter, a civ can't scum slip. The notion of me baiting a scum slip naturally won't be a civ worry.

Figuring out what you are trying to do is a civ worry.

[DrWilgy]

Elohcin
6
50%
Voters: DrWilgy, Dragon D. Luffy, DFaraday, G-Man, Neverwhere, Fredwood

I'm coming for you guys one by one...starting with G-Man.

Mother of god.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Not if you focus blast them. Then they need high special defenses.

Also you can status them, as they have no natural resistances.

Gengar used Focus Blast

It's Super Effective! 20% damage.

Chansey used Softboiled. Heals 50%.

Gengar used Will-O-Wisp. Chansey is burned.

Chansey switches out. Heals burn automatically thanks to hax ability.

[DrWilgy]

Not if you focus blast them. Then they need high special defenses.

Also you can status them, as they have no natural resistances.

Gengar used Focus Blast

It's Super Effective! 20% damage.

Chansey used Softboiled. Heals 50%.

Gengar used Will-O-Wisp. Chansey is burned.

Chansey switches out. Heals burn automatically thanks to hax ability.

>not packing mean look and toxic

[G-Man]

Interesting Gman, I didn't notice that. Would you say that we are both floaty or fluffy? You managed to not throw any opinions about either of us while looking at us. Why?

I've said all I care to regarding Dizzy, the case is simple, I'm not confident in it, but I'm confident that we need to not enable this afk gameplay. Sprityo never hard pushing for wallflowers reassures me, but it's hard to judge someone who's not here.

With fred I'd have to go back and find the exact instances that I agreed with him being bad.

DDL has assured us of his "bad civ game" and followed suit. I need to see some good civ game. Him asking me if i was trying to set him up to scum slip was my initial ping and it hasn't changed.

What are your thoughts on these 3 G-Man?

I don't have much of an opinion on either you or DDL because you've been present. For much of this game, we've been occupied with theories on inactives and hammering scum slips. The only reason I caught onto Sprityo was because he was a bubble player. I was looking for coasters. DDL has had diarrhea of the mouth at times and you seem about your average self. Between tempering my natural inclination to suss DDL and tempering my natural desire to trust you, I've been left neutral on you both. I need to ISO you guys but I'm not looking forward to it.

[DFaraday]

Is anyone suspicious of Dragon D. Luffy or DrWilgy? According to my spreadsheet, neither one has received a vote all game. There's been mentions of them but never any votes. Neverwhere hasn't received any votes either but her circumstances are different. DDL and Wilgy have plenty of content to comb through and haven't had as many things holding them back from the thread. Perhaps these folks haven't been high enough on our suspiciometers or perhaps we collectively latch onto other options that push them aside.

Thoughts?

Linki: well then. Hi there Wilgy. Any other thoughts on Dyslexicon, DDL, or Fred? What other specifics stand out to you?

Wilgy is one of my top suspects today because of his chummy tone with Sprityo. Also his voting record doesn't help him at all. Mac and Fred are also possibilities, so if I can look over their posts and try to find any Sprityo connections. That's a big if right now though.

[DrWilgy]

Goodluck and godspeed Gman.

Linki - neat, would you say my tone is overly chummy towards sprit when compared to others?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Not if you focus blast them. Then they need high special defenses.

Also you can status them, as they have no natural resistances.

Gengar used Focus Blast

It's Super Effective! 20% damage.

Chansey used Softboiled. Heals 50%.

Gengar used Will-O-Wisp. Chansey is burned.

Chansey switches out. Heals burn automatically thanks to hax ability.

>not packing mean look and toxic

To be fair an optimal set for that would be something like Shadow Ball/Will-O-Wisp/Substitute/Taunt

You dont do damage outside WoW but you force the pink blob to leave while you use Sub and then her teammates cant do much against you either.

Ive wreced defensive teams with that.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Wilgy is my strongest civ read at this point.

[DrWilgy]

Lol, I was messing DDL.

My most recent team normally beat out chancies by forcing the swap with band landorus and beating the team aroud the chancy.

Linki - Why?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Lol, I was messing DDL.

My most recent team normally beat out chancies by forcing the swap with band landorus and beating the team aroud the chancy.

Linki - Why?

I just play doubles. No stall anymore. Ever.

The way you ask questions made me legit think you are actually trying to figure things out.

I mean it can be faked, but that's a lot of work to make it look genuine.

[Quin]

Thoughts on all players atm.

Boo - Where your head at? I need to reveiw your recent input. Following the Sprityo lynching I still feel good about you.

DF - I feel rather null towards you, but tone wise and meta related I read you as civ. Regarding Nutella's suspicion of you, I disagree. Reviewing that interaction, I felt that Sprityo was trying to focus on me rather you. If you were mafia, I think you would have caught my eye more.

DDL - I'm still suspicious of you. Your recent votes have been bad and idk know why you are voting Gman now.

Dizzy - time to die homie.

Fredwood - I also dislike your vote pattern. I agree with suspicions voiced against you. Mainly Mac.

G-Man - You are one of the few I feel is legitimately hunting... or at least encouraging hunting.

Mac - This guy was too pumped after Sprits death to be bad.

Neverwhere - also somewhat null. I can see you being bad while knowing to ask the right questions, but... your asking the right questions and it makes me feel good about you.

Quin - bruh, you need to stop this lengthy catch up and share recent opinions.

Tink - where u at fam?

Tl;dr let's kill Dizzy, fred, or ddl in that order.

I'll give a current rainbow list after coffee. I'm currently in the mood to lynch boo.

[Quin]

Which is where I've just voted k

[G-Man]

If we all end up voting for different people for an 11-way tie, I'm gonna cry.

[Quin]

If we all end up voting for different people for an 11-way tie, I'm gonna cry.

best idea ever

[DFaraday]

Goodluck and godspeed Gman.

Linki - neat, would you say my tone is overly chummy towards sprit when compared to others?

Not really, but Sprit seemed to be joking around with you and Fred and not really anyone else that I noticed. For now I'll put my vote on you because I think Fred's voting on the day Sprityo died looks a little better for him.

[DFaraday]

Quin, why boo?

[Quin]

Quin, why boo?

I just said stuff about him last night. I think it's on the last page.

[DrWilgy]

Man, I get the feeling this next hour is gonna be a clusterfug.

[Quin]

Quin, why boo?

I just said stuff about him last night. I think it's on the last page.

Page before last. Woops.

Rainbow list incoming.