G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:50 pm
Oh don't you dare try to define me. I'm not throwing the game. You're trying to make my radical honesty sound bad. This ain't a gambit.
"Radical honesty" isn't losing the game on purpose
There are six civilians out of eleven players. One of them is not going to off himself to prove some generic suspicion wrong. No thanks. Seinfeld gif.
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juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:52 pm
Ok lol, I'm happy to change my vote to G-Man.
wait. why happy ?
Because I feel worse about G-Man right now than I do about Jay.
Why? And if so, it's sarcasm? I don't understand
Wait, what? Was he not kidding?
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juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:35 pm
Ok I see ted saying he is changing to Jay so I'll stop with the G-Man posts. Sloonei, I will read what you wrote.
I guess we need to resolve Jay this lynch. The people I trust as town are voting for him, I think Dom thought he was bad and we keep talking about it and talking about it. I think we have to get past it to sort the rest out. I can't be the only one thinking he is town - it's too much like what happened with Radish and with Elephant in Inception.
[VOTE:
Jay] aubergine
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:52 pm
Ok lol, I'm happy to change my vote to G-Man.
These two posts give the impression that juliets is just bouncing around between whichever wagons seem viable.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:53 pm
It’s biggest proponent admits there’s no case, yet it just shot past the wagon of a wolf with two teammates.
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Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:55 pm
These two posts give the impression that juliets is just bouncing around between whichever wagons seem viable.
I have a thought. [mention]juliets[/mention] speak for yourself first
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G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:50 pm
Oh don't you dare try to define me. I'm not throwing the game. You're trying to make my radical honesty sound bad. This ain't a gambit.
"Radical honesty" isn't losing the game on purpose
There are six civilians out of eleven players. One of them is not going to off himself to prove some generic suspicion wrong. No thanks. Seinfeld gif.
Oh there's still a chance for the civvies to win without me. With me dead, there will still be two baddie factions, which means cross-kill opportunities to keep the civvies in this. It's improbable, but still possible. The civvies don't lose if I am lynched; they just move to the precipice of losing. Just like every other mislynch.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:06 pm
G-man is town because of his vote for Mac on Day 2.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:47 pm[VOTE:
g-man] aubergine
come on Sloonei..
G-man did not in fact vote for Mac on Day 2. Come on Michelle.
is midnight, bare votes are confusing me.
Why is Juliets villager?
Paranoia is making me reconsider this possibility. But... why do you ask?
paranoia. keeps haunting me since day 4. I put it in the corner but Jules is so ineffective in scumhunt that hurts. Jack too. idk..
Wow. Thanks. I think I'll come back to this game later.
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] I see your post and am considering.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:13 am
How the fuck does my behavior today point to me being on master’s team, what?????
It doesn’t and that’s not what I said. Process of elimination and your interactions suggest you are on that team. Your behavior today is independently suspicious.
so in other words you can't pin me on any team but i'm scummy and should get lynched. even though you don't have any team mates set up with me.
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:50 pm
Oh don't you dare try to define me. I'm not throwing the game. You're trying to make my radical honesty sound bad. This ain't a gambit.
"Radical honesty" isn't losing the game on purpose
There are six civilians out of eleven players. One of them is not going to off himself to prove some generic suspicion wrong. No thanks. Seinfeld gif.
Oh there's still a chance for the civvies to win without me. With me dead, there will still be two baddie factions, which means cross-kill opportunities to keep the civvies in this. It's improbable, but still possible. The civvies don't lose if I am lynched; they just move to the precipice of losing. Just like every other mislynch.
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G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:50 pm
Oh don't you dare try to define me. I'm not throwing the game. You're trying to make my radical honesty sound bad. This ain't a gambit.
"Radical honesty" isn't losing the game on purpose
There are six civilians out of eleven players. One of them is not going to off himself to prove some generic suspicion wrong. No thanks. Seinfeld gif.
Oh there's still a chance for the civvies to win without me. With me dead, there will still be two baddie factions, which means cross-kill opportunities to keep the civvies in this. It's improbable, but still possible. The civvies don't lose if I am lynched; they just move to the precipice of losing. Just like every other mislynch.
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:13 am
How the fuck does my behavior today point to me being on master’s team, what?????
It doesn’t and that’s not what I said. Process of elimination and your interactions suggest you are on that team. Your behavior today is independently suspicious.
so in other words you can't pin me on any team but i'm scummy and should get lynched. even though you don't have any team mates set up with me.
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tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:13 am
How the fuck does my behavior today point to me being on master’s team, what?????
It doesn’t and that’s not what I said. Process of elimination and your interactions suggest you are on that team. Your behavior today is independently suspicious.
so in other words you can't pin me on any team but i'm scummy and should get lynched. even though you don't have any team mates set up with me.
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Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:06 pm
G-man is town because of his vote for Mac on Day 2.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:47 pm[VOTE:
g-man] aubergine
come on Sloonei..
G-man did not in fact vote for Mac on Day 2. Come on Michelle.
is midnight, bare votes are confusing me.
Why is Juliets villager?
Paranoia is making me reconsider this possibility. But... why do you ask?
paranoia. keeps haunting me since day 4. I put it in the corner but Jules is so ineffective in scumhunt that hurts. Jack too. idk..
Wow. Thanks. I think I'll come back to this game later.
Jackofhearts2005 I see your post and am considering.
This is not like you. Stay and fight for what you believe.. I am not insulting you. I am so sad since I saw the double mislynch that when I saw you happy to vote I went crazy.
Explain yourself instead leaving becaue i will fall asleep and you will loose any contact with me until Eod :/
If you are villager, please.
If not, do what you want.
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juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:35 pm
Ok I see ted saying he is changing to Jay so I'll stop with the G-Man posts. Sloonei, I will read what you wrote.
I guess we need to resolve Jay this lynch. The people I trust as town are voting for him, I think Dom thought he was bad and we keep talking about it and talking about it. I think we have to get past it to sort the rest out. I can't be the only one thinking he is town - it's too much like what happened with Radish and with Elephant in Inception.
[VOTE:
Jay] aubergine
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:52 pm
Ok lol, I'm happy to change my vote to G-Man.
These two posts give the impression that juliets is just bouncing around between whichever wagons seem viable.
I'm not going to leave but [mention]Michelle[/mention] your post was hurtful.
Sloonei, my feeling about a Jay lynch are summed up in my post. I still don't see bad Jay but I understand for the good of the game and based on my assessments of Radish and Elephant his lynch might be the best option.
Meanwhile, ted re-kindled my interest in G-Man in a big way. I have been off and on about him the whole game. I started looking at some of his posts and posts about him but then when ted changed I thought he was not on the table for today. Then he was back ON the table and I changed my vote. As I indicated in my answer to Jack, I'm not sure I'm going to stay there. New people have entered the thread and have new thoughts that I will consider. The night is not over.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:03 pm
In what world does a civilian vote for himself when the game hangs in the balance as it does right now?
You don’t believe this.
In what world does a wolf do this?
Self voting is NAI because it’s against any wincon 99% of the time and we’re not in that 1% corner case.
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:35 pm
Ok I see ted saying he is changing to Jay so I'll stop with the G-Man posts. Sloonei, I will read what you wrote.
I guess we need to resolve Jay this lynch. The people I trust as town are voting for him, I think Dom thought he was bad and we keep talking about it and talking about it. I think we have to get past it to sort the rest out. I can't be the only one thinking he is town - it's too much like what happened with Radish and with Elephant in Inception.
[VOTE:
Jay] aubergine
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:52 pm
Ok lol, I'm happy to change my vote to G-Man.
These two posts give the impression that juliets is just bouncing around between whichever wagons seem viable.
I'm not going to leave but @Michelle your post was hurtful.
Sloonei, my feeling about a Jay lynch are summed up in my post. I still don't see bad Jay but I understand for the good of the game and based on my assessments of Radish and Elephant his lynch might be the best option.
Meanwhile, ted re-kindled my interest in G-Man in a big way. I have been off and on about him the whole game. I started looking at some of his posts and posts about him but then when ted changed I thought he was not on the table for today. Then he was back ON the table and I changed my vote. As I indicated in my answer to Jack, I'm not sure I'm going to stay there. New people have entered the thread and have new thoughts that I will consider. The night is not over.
There’s no elephant in this game.
Walk me through your read on Jay, independent of the game-state or anyone else’s thoughts on him.
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:35 pm
You need to lose your obsession and your ego, and just play. If you're a civvie hunting to win, a baddie hunting other baddies, or 3P hunting to survive, you are wrong, and the only way to show you how wrong is to give you what you want. I'm not giving up; I intend to give you want you want and let you live with the consequences.
For a civilian G-Man this would be throwing the game. You're not a petulant child. No thanks.
Oh don't you dare try to define me. I'm not throwing the game. You're trying to make my radical honesty sound bad. This ain't a gambit.
hold on didn’t you fake a posting restriction in this game
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:11 pm
I'm not going to leave but @Michelle your post was hurtful.
Sloonei, my feeling about a Jay lynch are summed up in my post. I still don't see bad Jay but I understand for the good of the game and based on my assessments of Radish and Elephant his lynch might be the best option.
Meanwhile, ted re-kindled my interest in G-Man in a big way. I have been off and on about him the whole game. I started looking at some of his posts and posts about him but then when ted changed I thought he was not on the table for today. Then he was back ON the table and I changed my vote. As I indicated in my answer to Jack, I'm not sure I'm going to stay there. New people have entered the thread and have new thoughts that I will consider. The night is not over.
lol Elephant
Two things:
1) We cannot be lynching "for the good of the game". It is way too late for that. One mislynch causes the civilian win chance to drop like a lead balloon. The lynch must be about suspicion and nothing but.
2) Clarify the yellow thing: are you saying per your assessments of Radish and [Elephant] that I am a candidate for that team?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:03 pm
In what world does a civilian vote for himself when the game hangs in the balance as it does right now?
You don’t believe this.
In what world does a wolf do this?
Self voting is NAI because it’s against any wincon 99% of the time and we’re not in that 1% corner case.
For the same reason Mac did it. The very same Mac that just flipped mafia in this game we're playing in right now. It's a gamble -- if people buy the appeal, they move their votes. It's about survival. There's a clear mafia explanation and zero civilian explanation.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:03 pm
In what world does a civilian vote for himself when the game hangs in the balance as it does right now?
You don’t believe this.
In what world does a wolf do this?
Self voting is NAI because it’s against any wincon 99% of the time and we’re not in that 1% corner case.
For the same reason Mac did it. The very same Mac that just flipped mafia in this game we're playing in right now. It's a gamble -- if people buy the appeal, they move their votes. It's about survival. There's a clear mafia explanation and zero civilian explanation.
And yet, civies do this just as often.
Idk if you’re doing the bus distance go deep tango or looking for another mislynch but I don’t care. Your bs is palpable.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:03 pm
In what world does a civilian vote for himself when the game hangs in the balance as it does right now?
You don’t believe this.
In what world does a wolf do this?
Self voting is NAI because it’s against any wincon 99% of the time and we’re not in that 1% corner case.
For the same reason Mac did it. The very same Mac that just flipped mafia in this game we're playing in right now. It's a gamble -- if people buy the appeal, they move their votes. It's about survival. There's a clear mafia explanation and zero civilian explanation.
And yet, civies do this just as often.
Idk if you’re doing the bus distance go deep tango or looking for another mislynch but I don’t care. Your bs is palpable.
You're not listening.
I'm not talking about any self-vote. Of course civilians have self-voted before.
I'm talking about self-voting at a point in the game when being mislynched could be the back-breaking, game-losing play. It's nonsense. I could see that from a teenager.
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Mafia self voting especially in a setup where one mafia starts at -2 gives room for wrong math from town and a possibility to switch at Eod.
it may not be anti wincon if i take it like this