Corrupt!? Mafia (ENDGAME)

[Johann]

Like just think for a second and read previous posts.

Nanoom is so damn scummy

[Johann]

And dont give me - mafia is trying to frame nanook
Why bother framing him when you can just kill him and frame.me which is much easier

[Funnygurl555]

if he's a wolf he's just one wolf though. there's another. i'd rather be safe and like not off the one person who shot red

are we at mylo rn o__O

[Funnygurl555]

we're not at mylo. one from mylo. yeeeet

[Funnygurl555]

johann i'll shoot anyone else other than nanook (or me let's just put that out there)

who?

[Jackofhearts2005]

johann i'll shoot anyone else other than nanook (or me let's just put that out there)

who?

Boo.

It’s more likely Nanook and not Boo than Boo and not Manook imo.

[Funnygurl555]

i thought your name was jack??? :P

[Jackofhearts2005]

i thought your name was jack??? :P

I am the Lorax. I speak for the Johanns.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Ugh that version of that emoji is not what I was going for.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Standard iOS hug emoji looks more like jazz hands

[Johann]

if he's a wolf he's just one wolf though. there's another. i'd rather be safe and like not off the one person who shot red

are we at mylo rn o__O

He shot red to get town cred. Dragomir was about to die anyway and Nanook took the shot. He then started to act like he is the only one that knew Dragomir is scum when i fact i was the one that pushed for Drago first.

And how do you explain his scummy post? Or the fact Mafia chose to poison me instead of him?

[Johann]

Like it all points to nanook

[Funnygurl555]

pls believe in me guys

JACK

ima have to ask you to BELIEVE

but also johann if not nanook who do u want me to shoot

[Johann]

Boo

[Funnygurl555]

kk

[Johann]

I am not a fan of this day phase at all

[DrWilgy]

I believe Jack.

If he is bad, the only scenario where I see him fight this way today is if another one of his teammates are in the crosshairs and thinks they can't solo win, but since he's actively involved in wanting boo dead (who seems to be the only other primary target), that isn't the case.

I still don't think it's Nanook. Would be horribly silly to gun a teammate imo.

[DrWilgy]

I'm starting to get a really frightening feeling from Funnygurl. In all that I've read, their posts have been very confident and "right".

Has Funnygurl been incorrect so far?

[DrWilgy]

Earlier I had a soft townread on boo, and this feeling still somewhat stuck.

BUT, I'm aware that we don't have enough information and don't like the idea of entering mylo with him alive at this point. Best case he's a sleeper scum, worst case we enter a mylo with as much information as possible.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I am not universaly read townie and i shot one
Nanook is universaly read townie and he shot scum

Mafia chose to poison me instead of nanook

Nanook is fucking mafia its so damn obv

“Universally town read” this is why you don’t push me yesterday, cause it makes this not true.

[Funnygurl555]

I believe Jack.

If he is bad, the only scenario where I see him fight this way today is if another one of his teammates are in the crosshairs and thinks they can't solo win, but since he's actively involved in wanting boo dead (who seems to be the only other primary target), that isn't the case.

I still don't think it's Nanook. Would be horribly silly to gun a teammate imo.

what a 180

[DrWilgy]

His actions don't make sense otherwise.

[Funnygurl555]

I'm starting to get a really frightening feeling from Funnygurl. In all that I've read, their posts have been very confident and "right".

Has Funnygurl been incorrect so far?

oh also yes

nutella

BOOM

[Funnygurl555]

I'm very much convinced that there isn't a world where you Johann and Mac are all t.

...like

so like how do you feel going into this phase

[Funnygurl555]

^ftr that quote was addressed to jack

[Funnygurl555]

if this comes of as condescending or w/e that ain't the point 'cause LOL i mean look at me but yeah idk

people here have cleared you but gotta be skeptical

[DrWilgy]

I'm very much convinced that there isn't a world where you Johann and Mac are all t.

...like

so like how do you feel going into this phase

Terrified that we are wrong about either you or Hyena.

[Funnygurl555]

I'm very much convinced that there isn't a world where you Johann and Mac are all t.

...like

so like how do you feel going into this phase

Terrified that we are wrong about either you or Hyena.

talk more about hyena

dw wilgy, mac woulda caught me. he's done it before

[G-Man]

Quotes galore that I want to point out when I’m not on my phone. I feel like James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. Nanook and Jack seem to be arm-wrestling for control of the game today. Nanook was posting like someone who was sure he was going to get poisoned last night but showed no surprise at it not happening. Instead, he pivoted into a strong stance. Jack continues to flail about. It’s like the more he talks the harder it is to see clearly (or what I thought was clearly).

Can anyone see Jack-Nanook teammate compatibility in any of this? That’s the tinfoiliest of tinfoil for two baddies to go this cutthroat and vocal, but it drowns out all discussion and wears everybody out. Is that happening here? It feels too organic to be fake to me. I still want to believe that common sense dictates it is pointless for Nanook to kill a teammate when he doesn’t have to. Someone said he did it recently. If that’s true, then I have to wonder if he’s ballsy enough to try the same play again so soon. I didn’t play whatever game that was, so I haven’t been burned by it personally to vacate him of that defense.

Nanook and Jack both seem to have Boo in their shoot list. Johann has said today that both Nanook and Boo look like scum. If it weren’t for that, I might worry that Boo was being touted about as a red herring. That could still be the case in the tinfoiliest of tinfoil, but that means we’re being played hard and/or overlooking someone. I am guilty of mostly sheeping a civ read of Funnygurl based on the civ reads of others. With no playing experience with her, I have to trust your collective guts on her.

I am too stubborn to abandon my town tead on Nanook just yet. I need to read more of Hyena to see if I was right on Day 1 when I civ-read him. That was partly predicated on him and Boo being of similar mind on some things and my appreciation of logic. Do we toss logic out the window yet? I don’t want to, but it seems I have to for some of these potential pairings.

[mention]boo[/mention] Where even are you? Three people at least have you in their sights and you haven’t posted today. Get in here and make the waters even muddier with your input.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

“ Nanook was posting like someone who was sure he was going to get poisoned last night but showed no surprise at it not happening.”

Why would I be surprised, I’m getting pushed. Scum don’t need to poison me while there’s people pushing me (including potentially scum pushing).

That’s why it’s fucking stupid for anyone that’s town to push me yesterday, you treat me as locked town and wait to see if I get poisoned or not.

[Johann]

Why on earth would scum poison me when they can just poison you and kill you.

Why try to frame.someone most herr think he is town??

Uhm hello? Are everyone blind here?

[Johann]

Fuck it ill do it myself. Ill explain why nanook is scum shortly

[Johann]

Most people here believe Nanook is town bcs he shot red and nanook himself likes to brag about it. If you read D2 i was the first one to push on Drago and the one that advocated his death the most. Rest of people soon picked it up too and Dragimir became suspect number 1. Dragomirs death was 100 gurantee. Nanook shoot Dragomir and the rest is history. After killing of Dragomir nanook started to boast how he is townie and he killed a scum, like he is the only one that knew Dragomir is scum. In fact majority of us knew and sooner or later he would die. So Nanook decided to cement his town position and shoot scum. Nothing now stands in his position.

After that he became cocky and took a back seat because he is confident in his position. You now have a player that killed a scum and is universaly read by most to be town and can get the gun again... yet mafia chooses to poison me? It makws 0 sense at all to leave Nanook alive after everything like 0%. If you were scum ask yourself would you leave Nanook alive? Ofc not!

He then said despite having "juciy opportunities" to push for me he didnt. What kind of townie says shit like that? Like hello?

This day phase so far has been really bad. No activity or trying to figure out stuff. Most of you are all locked in your reads and too lazy or stubborn to change. If one of you just dropped it for a bit and read some you would see a bigger picture.

You are being played hard and with activity and passion like this you will lose hard

[Johann]

Boo is afk entire day
FG who has the gun is doing 0% to try and question people.
Hyena afk too
Wilgy afk too
Gman is at least trying something
Nanook is back seating not trying to solve anything when being "100% townie"
Jack is only one trying to do shit

That is the state of the game now.
Good luck with it. I am out

[Hyena]

Johann, I'll agree to shoot Nanook if you give me the gun, but if he flips town, I'm blaming you for it. :P

[Hyena]

Also, if we're sticking to giving the gun to Funny today, I would either Wilgy or myself to have the gun tomorrow.

[Hyena]

I'm very much convinced that there isn't a world where you Johann and Mac are all t.

...like

so like how do you feel going into this phase

Terrified that we are wrong about either you or Hyena.

What's your PoE looking like if both me and Funny are in it?

[Hyena]

Quotes galore that I want to point out when I’m not on my phone. I feel like James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. Nanook and Jack seem to be arm-wrestling for control of the game today. Nanook was posting like someone who was sure he was going to get poisoned last night but showed no surprise at it not happening. Instead, he pivoted into a strong stance. Jack continues to flail about. It’s like the more he talks the harder it is to see clearly (or what I thought was clearly).

So, here is the state of things right now from my perspective. Both Nanook and Jack have town cleared me, Funny, and a couple others. On the other hand people in the town clear pile are suspecting Boo, Jack, and Nanook. I don't feel like Boo or Jack are arm-wrestling for control, because there's a chance one will get shot after the other for all we know. From my perspective, they are trying to push forward arguments why the other could be scum for the people in their town clears.

Can anyone see Jack-Nanook teammate compatibility in any of this? That’s the tinfoiliest of tinfoil for two baddies to go this cutthroat and vocal, but it drowns out all discussion and wears everybody out. Is that happening here? It feels too organic to be fake to me. I still want to believe that common sense dictates it is pointless for Nanook to kill a teammate when he doesn’t have to. Someone said he did it recently. If that’s true, then I have to wonder if he’s ballsy enough to try the same play again so soon. I didn’t play whatever game that was, so I haven’t been burned by it personally to vacate him of that defense.

If Boo flips town, one of those two are gonna get shot next, so they can't really hide from people. I think it's more likely that only one of them is scum, if at all.

Nanook and Jack both seem to have Boo in their shoot list. Johann has said today that both Nanook and Boo look like scum. If it weren’t for that, I might worry that Boo was being touted about as a red herring. That could still be the case in the tinfoiliest of tinfoil, but that means we’re being played hard and/or overlooking someone. I am guilty of mostly sheeping a civ read of Funnygurl based on the civ reads of others. With no playing experience with her, I have to trust your collective guts on her.

In Nanook's case, I feel like he was forced to include Boo in their shoot list after me and a bunch of other people kept yelling in the game that he should be in the PoE. So no, I don't hink Nanook and Jack fall under the same category as far as Boo goes.
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I am too stubborn to abandon my town tead on Nanook just yet.

That's fine. Even if Boo flips scum, I wouldn't automatically assume Nanook was scum with them. I think the only thing I'd do if Boo flips scum is clear Jack completely.

[Hyena]

So, I remembered eliminating certain pairings that Jack could be in, but I couldn't remember which ones, outside of Boo --

I kinda want to shoot Jack. Does anyone object?

I have no reason to single Jack out as a suspect. He wasn't here when I was here last night. But at least if he gets shot he can preserve his unlynchable claim some more.

I don't like that Jack is acting low key. He's also skating. He also won't get lynched if he's scum. I think he's a good shot. Maybe not the most likely to flip wolf but he's the most likely to flip wolf in a way that destroys the scum team if he is one.

Also I do think he is one. I don't believe half the shit he says. He's just applied an urgent scattery tone to the few posts he's made that makes it look authentic. He cleared Johann off being wrongtown and I never understand people that do that. Johann/Jack feel teamy to me.

I agree with the feel of Jack, but I wouldn't think them to be w/w.

That's two of the people you had previously confirmed. Was there anything other than the above that changed that?

So, if Jack is actually Wilgy's partner, would he push Jack but ALSO defend Johann here? Like, if his partner Jack flipped mafia, he'd WANT people to think Johann could be teamed with him. So, like, I'm pretty confident in saying that Jack and Wilgy are never w/w here.

I still stand by this read. Thus, in my mind --

Jack/Wilgy isn't a thing based on the above reasoning
Jack/Boo isn't a thing based on their arguments against each other since, like, D3?
Jack/Funny isn't a thing because that would require Funny to be mafia, which I don't believe is the case.
Jack/Johann isn't a thing because Johann is confirmed town by being poisoned.
Jack/Hyena isn't a thing because I'm town.
Jack/Nanook could be a thing, but they get found if we stick to the current plan.
The only other person (in the game) is G-Man, but G-Man's now trying to pair him with Nanook as the scum team.

Thus, I don't think I'd want to go after Jack today.

[Hyena]

Okay, I'm going to bed now.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Lord save us from the idiots.

[Johann]

Lord save us from the idiots.

You offer nothing of value and all you can do is act all mighty

[Johann]

Nanook did absolutely nothing after Dragomir

[Johann]

Ever since you got "cleared" you never bothered to actually push game forward. You took a back seat and enjoyed watching everyone talk between themself because you felt you did your job

Job being getting town cred.
And you will get shot by the end of the game thats for sure.

[Johann]

And i know for a fact you will never get poisoned. You are THE most obv choice to be poisoned but you arent for 2 cycles now.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ve done literally the only thing of tangible value to town this game and meanwhile you and jack are sitting over there going “fuck you Nanook you suck”

Jack has the excuse of possibly being scum but you’re confirmed town playing exactly to the scum wincon, so good job there, I hope you feel proud of yourself after you see my flip.

[Johann]

I’ve done literally the only thing of tangible value to town this game and meanwhile you and jack are sitting over there going “fuck you Nanook you suck”

Jack has the excuse of possibly being scum but you’re confirmed town playing exactly to the scum wincon, so good job there, I hope you feel proud of yourself after you see my flip.

Here he goes again boasting about Dragomir

That's literally only thing you did last 2 cycles

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dude, I’m obviously not going to get poisoned while I’m being pushed so hard. That’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

Also I wouldn’t have gotten poisoned until last night, but do you know what happened yesterday...that’s right, idiots pushed me! Well, tbf, jack might not be an idiot, he might just be scum, but not everyone has that excuse.

Anyways I’m disengaging again now, I find it hard to believe how hard you’re deciding to throw here but you do you I guess. I will say I told you so in post game.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It literally isn’t but keep saying that, I’m sure if you say it enough that’ll make it true! That’s how truth works, right?

[Johann]

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] [mention]Funnygurl555[/mention] [mention]G-Man[/mention] [mention]Hyena[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] I have most faith in you guys. PLEASE read everything i wrote regarding Nanook and then check YOURSELF am i right. Dont get sucked in bcs he shot Dragomir.