Spider-verse Mafia [DAY 6]

[Master Radishes]

Sooo anyone wanna catch me up on the key headlines since SoD? I obviously see no deaths & Made fakeclaimed but...any other claims? Any new lines of thought? Etc.

Cool thanks.

[Made]

Hi Master Radishes,
Well, Guillotine takes a vig shot when he wakes up tomorrow.

imo he should take the shot on Nutella or Seanzie. From my pov, If i'm Seanzie here, regardless of alignment, I'm tunneling Nutella here to avoid getting shot, and he's doing it so . I think Nutella keeps looking worst, so personally, I'd shoot her (which is a flip from like 5 minutes ago, but it be like that sometimes). Neither shot here is bad i think.

Any arguments for shooting anyone else y'all? G-man maybe still?

@Guillotine hf

[KZA]

Sooo anyone wanna catch me up on the key headlines since SoD? I obviously see no deaths & Made fakeclaimed but...any other claims? Any new lines of thought? Etc.

Cool thanks.

everyone noticed G-man isn't townie (Spearheaded by Epi)

Nutella believes Jack has good odds of being a Michelle partner based off his short ISO

[KZA]

Shooting Nutella is a bad idea

[Master Radishes]

Hi Master Radishes,
Well, Guillotine takes a vig shot when he wakes up tomorrow.

imo he should take the shot on Nutella or Seanzie. From my pov, If i'm Seanzie here, regardless of alignment, I'm tunneling Nutella here to avoid getting shot, and he's doing it so . I think Nutella keeps looking worst, so personally, I'd shoot her (which is a flip from like 5 minutes ago, but it be like that sometimes). Neither shot here is bad i think.

Any arguments for shooting anyone else y'all? G-man maybe still?

@Guillotine hf

Uh what? Never shoot Nutella here, jfc.

Like if she's scum we'll narrow it down later, but never D3 vig her after she's helped suss out a mafia yesterday.

[Master Radishes]

Sooo anyone wanna catch me up on the key headlines since SoD? I obviously see no deaths & Made fakeclaimed but...any other claims? Any new lines of thought? Etc.

Cool thanks.

everyone noticed G-man isn't townie (Spearheaded by Epi)

Nutella believes Jack has good odds of being a Michelle partner based off his short ISO

I was going to raise both those names myself, so...yep, sounds good.

Why are we not still considering Kyle btw? Did I miss something?

Also people keep suggesting Mac and like...yeah? I can see it. He's certainly way off his game if he's town.

[Made]

fwiw I am historically awful at reading nutella. I still think she's rotten here, but like reads really aren't my strong suit if i'm being 100%

Mechanics? Hell yeah loveemmm. Actually know who is bad... ehhh...

@Guillotine follow your heart

[Marmot]

Sooo anyone wanna catch me up on the key headlines since SoD? I obviously see no deaths & Made fakeclaimed but...any other claims? Any new lines of thought? Etc.

Cool thanks.

I'm in the same boat as this tuber.

[nutella]

nutella

tella me what you think about DoO and her shenanigans

tella me what you think about Esooa

tella me what you think about Chardonnay

doo is town, not worth arguing that unless we hit lylo.

esooa would be my main deepwolf candidate if my pool of jack>gman>epi>sean>kyle doesnt finish it. i think her play yesterday can be interpreted as her power wolfing a bit. but i'm not ready to really turn to that before my main poe.

chardonnay i feel is likely town

You seem to have a lot more people ahead of me for someone who was voting for me this morning? Maybe I am just self-conscious, but I feel like I have not been particularly towny this game. Care to explain why I am placed where I am in that list?

I never voted you? But yes you are in my main poe, just not as strong a scumread as jack or g atm.

[Master Radishes]

Like I feel there is a pretty clear PoE now:

Kyle, Jack, Gman, Mac, Daisy, Esooa...or so.

(Barring anything I've missed about these.)


Everyone else is mech clear or just sorta obvtown.

[Master Radishes]

Like I feel there is a pretty clear PoE now:

Kyle, Jack, Gman, Mac, Daisy, Esooa...or so.

(Barring anything I've missed about these.)


Everyone else is mech clear or just sorta obvtown.

Oh and Seanzie. And maybe Chard.

[Made]

Okay so let's just take Esooa out of Poe for now. I'm like 90% she's town. Tho I could be wrong, I have a secret tell for her

[Made]

To put it another way, I outted myself because y'all started going for kyle, but I think it's more likely Esooa is town. Top speculative town read for me.

[Master Radishes]

Okay so let's just take Esooa out of Poe for now. I'm like 90% she's town. Tho I could be wrong, I have a secret tell for her

That's fine for now.

[Kylemii]

out of curiousity i looked into master radishes, he voted me initially, then moved to michelle immediately upon the made cc and never wavered. seems clean

[KZA]

Like I feel there is a pretty clear PoE now:

Kyle, Jack, Gman, Mac, Daisy, Esooa...or so.

(Barring anything I've missed about these.)


Everyone else is mech clear or just sorta obvtown.

Baby Yoda?

[Kylemii]

if this helps clear PoE, my role is mechanically provable i guess

[Master Radishes]

out of curiousity i looked into master radishes, he voted me initially, then moved to michelle immediately upon the made cc and never wavered. seems clean

Also I'm 90% mech clear as per 112's N1 track.

[nutella]

yeah @radish I am considering kyle more towny than not for today. jack and gman are my priorities rn

[Master Radishes]

Like I feel there is a pretty clear PoE now:

Kyle, Jack, Gman, Mac, Daisy, Esooa...or so.

(Barring anything I've missed about these.)


Everyone else is mech clear or just sorta obvtown.

Baby Yoda?

Oh right, that one.

Eh. I guess I'd add to the PoE. But like, outer PoE. I don't see anything that pings me with them, and would rather flip a couple of Jacks, Macs, Gmans, Kyles before going there.

[Master Radishes]

yeah @radish I am considering kyle more towny than not for today. jack and gman are my priorities rn

Counterpoint: I really want the zentell to be true.

[Kylemii]

actually nevermind, my role is no longer reliably provable RIP

[Seanzie]

nutella

tella me what you think about DoO and her shenanigans

tella me what you think about Esooa

tella me what you think about Chardonnay

doo is town, not worth arguing that unless we hit lylo.

esooa would be my main deepwolf candidate if my pool of jack>gman>epi>sean>kyle doesnt finish it. i think her play yesterday can be interpreted as her power wolfing a bit. but i'm not ready to really turn to that before my main poe.

chardonnay i feel is likely town

You seem to have a lot more people ahead of me for someone who was voting for me this morning? Maybe I am just self-conscious, but I feel like I have not been particularly towny this game. Care to explain why I am placed where I am in that list?

I never voted you? But yes you are in my main poe, just not as strong a scumread as jack or g atm.

Yup, you're right, I got you and MacDougal mixed up in my mind, you never voted me, you just scumread me immediately after MacDougal voted me.

Still remember seeing a super scummy looking post from you yesterday.

[DaisyCloud]

Hi Master Radishes,
Well, Guillotine takes a vig shot when he wakes up tomorrow.

imo he should take the shot on Nutella or Seanzie. From my pov, If i'm Seanzie here, regardless of alignment, I'm tunneling Nutella here to avoid getting shot, and he's doing it so . I think Nutella keeps looking worst, so personally, I'd shoot her (which is a flip from like 5 minutes ago, but it be like that sometimes). Neither shot here is bad i think.

Any arguments for shooting anyone else y'all? G-man maybe still?

@Guillotine hf

Uh what? Never shoot Nutella here, jfc.

Like if she's scum we'll narrow it down later, but never D3 vig her after she's helped suss out a mafia yesterday.

no she didn't. she seemed to be defending Michelle. she had doubts about yeeting Michelle.

ot do you mean another wolf? what wolf would thst be exactly?

[chardonnay]

tldr, I think Daisy is probably town.

Spoiler: show

is the Esooa here the same Esooa I played a game with recently on MU?

yes

cool! hi! yay! let's hunt scum together again! I don't want to fight or anything, okay? ♡

This is the classic pocket post. "Let's not fight!"

Meaning you are treating them as town immediately even though you weren't around at day one at all. Have no reads.

Interesting

hmmm, not what I meant at all. that MU game i was extremely awkward and I felt like antagonized literally everyone. I felt (and I think I projected this too) that everyone was against me.

I simply don't want to do that in this game. I don't want anyone who is playing this game who played the last game with me to think that.

I can see though from an outside prospective that someone might think it is a pocket attempt.

I honestly don't know what Esooa's alignment is or isn't. I do plan on going through Esooa's iso and see what I find.

so far most of my reads is null. it is disconcerting but I tend to have more null reads then most think I should.

I have you as Town. and no it is not an attempt to sway you in anyway by saying that. just it's pretty much a given based on what you are claiming. I don't see a world where a wolf would attempt what you are doing this day phase.

This is something i do as town a lot. Gush about a related bad experience i had in another game when somebody calls out a particular stance I made that seems "off" at a glance in a current game.

inb4 Juliets is in the mafia chat and Daisy fucked up

bruh, what is your deal?

Playing mafia and trying to solve every world. Unlike lots of others

oh, okay. I got you. ♡

you don't have to solve alone. do you have questions for me?

Ugh, Frequent use of affectionate smiles from ppl idk makes me wary.

please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.

Town would post this. Mafia dont really have the need/want to do so, and doing so will get them side eye'd for "role fishing" even though the roles are already publicly claimed and out in the open. lol

doom what would you have done if the dayvig had hit falcon before you rescinded, in either flip case

good question. @DaughterOfOmega what would you do

Why do you think it's a good question. I'm more interested on your thoughts.

I feel like yiu are going around flinging mud and just seeing what will stick.

you seem to have a large poe list. from what I read you don't give concrete reads nor reasons why thry are in your poe. seems like some of those in your poe are those who disagree with you or interestingly enough agree with you.

seems like you like being the dominant one in the game thread and are quick to shut down any talk_svum hunting outside of what you deem is of import.

I don't recall nominating you as Town leader.

maybe rhe game is fun for you to play in this way. but it's not do fun for those who are not you.

maybe if you showed your work more and don't assume that those who don't simply see your perspective as idiots or if you don't assume they are being anti-toen then the game won't be so dead.

maybe do some follow through with what you say. maybe let others scum hunt too.

just because peeps aren't playing it "your way" doesn't mean thry are scum.

Im curious if Daisy is the type of player to lecture another player about what is proper play in the middle of a game as scum?

In my experience I see frustrated town do it more then scum. Also scum would try to spin it as scummy, which Daisy dosent really push that angle much in her Omega interactions around then.

-/-/-/-

Im not really leaning one way or another on her michelle actions, and preferance for 112. I think most scum would feel obligated to bus, but its also plausible that scum would want to salvage the more useful buddy and drop 112 who could choose to town side.

I think that several of Dasiy's earlier posts are inline to things i find myself prone to doing as town, and also seen in some other town do. Its leaves a strong enough impact that i dont really feel a need to keeping going back and forth on Michelle/112 points.

[chardonnay]

Nutella is a really bad choice to shoot lol

[nutella]

I lean town on daisy as well

[Seanzie]

nutella

tella me what you think about DoO and her shenanigans

tella me what you think about Esooa

tella me what you think about Chardonnay

doo is town, not worth arguing that unless we hit lylo.

esooa would be my main deepwolf candidate if my pool of jack>gman>epi>sean>kyle doesnt finish it. i think her play yesterday can be interpreted as her power wolfing a bit. but i'm not ready to really turn to that before my main poe.

chardonnay i feel is likely town

You seem to have a lot more people ahead of me for someone who was voting for me this morning? Maybe I am just self-conscious, but I feel like I have not been particularly towny this game. Care to explain why I am placed where I am in that list?

I never voted you? But yes you are in my main poe, just not as strong a scumread as jack or g atm.

Yup, you're right, I got you and MacDougal mixed up in my mind, you never voted me, you just scumread me immediately after MacDougal voted me.

Still remember seeing a super scummy looking post from you yesterday.

I think I'd still like to hear why you were scumreading me so hard early D3, and ended up with so many targets below me by the time of this post.

[nutella]

she seemed to be defending Michelle. she had doubts about yeeting Michelle.

second sentence is true

first is not


i have repeated this a zillion times

if there was any chance michelle was the doc yeeting her would be suboptimal, and i felt that chance at the very end

up until then i was pretty hard scumreading her

idk why this is hard to understand

[nutella]

nutella

tella me what you think about DoO and her shenanigans

tella me what you think about Esooa

tella me what you think about Chardonnay

doo is town, not worth arguing that unless we hit lylo.

esooa would be my main deepwolf candidate if my pool of jack>gman>epi>sean>kyle doesnt finish it. i think her play yesterday can be interpreted as her power wolfing a bit. but i'm not ready to really turn to that before my main poe.

chardonnay i feel is likely town

You seem to have a lot more people ahead of me for someone who was voting for me this morning? Maybe I am just self-conscious, but I feel like I have not been particularly towny this game. Care to explain why I am placed where I am in that list?

I never voted you? But yes you are in my main poe, just not as strong a scumread as jack or g atm.

Yup, you're right, I got you and MacDougal mixed up in my mind, you never voted me, you just scumread me immediately after MacDougal voted me.

Still remember seeing a super scummy looking post from you yesterday.

I think I'd still like to hear why you were scumreading me so hard early D3, and ended up with so many targets below me by the time of this post.

idk what you think is confusing? jack was always my number one suspect coming into today, you maybe went from #2 to 3 or 4 when i looked at gman again and considered gman/epi a ~dichotomy

[Master Radishes]

Hi Master Radishes,
Well, Guillotine takes a vig shot when he wakes up tomorrow.

imo he should take the shot on Nutella or Seanzie. From my pov, If i'm Seanzie here, regardless of alignment, I'm tunneling Nutella here to avoid getting shot, and he's doing it so . I think Nutella keeps looking worst, so personally, I'd shoot her (which is a flip from like 5 minutes ago, but it be like that sometimes). Neither shot here is bad i think.

Any arguments for shooting anyone else y'all? G-man maybe still?

@Guillotine hf

Uh what? Never shoot Nutella here, jfc.

Like if she's scum we'll narrow it down later, but never D3 vig her after she's helped suss out a mafia yesterday.

no she didn't. she seemed to be defending Michelle. she had doubts about yeeting Michelle.

ot do you mean another wolf? what wolf would thst be exactly?

Yeah I realised after that post I was mixing up her simultaneous push on Kyle with Made's claim on Michelle.

But (a) it's not like she originally suggested moving from Michelle; that was someone else (Marmot?) and for decent mech reasons; and (b) she's still very much not a dayvig choice out of everyone in the game.

[chardonnay]

hmm

[VOTE: G-man] aubergine

[DaisyCloud]

believe what I say is true or not. I don't think I ever lectured as mafia. I don't think I cared to point out what I think is messed up in others unless it was part of why someone should get yeeted. like, I'd be thinking u is messed up and this is why but you do you so you can dig your own grave. if that makes sense.

if DoO didn't have her claim I would yeet her.

[Master Radishes]

Like I leave open the possibility Nutella is wolfing here, but we'll get to that later in the game when she doesn't die and the PoE dries up. She's actively solving and I'm vibing with her. She lives.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall simple yes or no: do people have any idea what g-man's role is?

I don't

[chardonnay]

fwiw I am historically awful at reading nutella. I still think she's rotten here, but like reads really aren't my strong suit if i'm being 100%

Mechanics? Hell yeah loveemmm. Actually know who is bad... ehhh...

Maybe its a play style incongruence?

If you SR Nutella v frequently regardless her actual rands i mean

[DaisyCloud]

@MacDougall simple yes or no: do people have any idea what g-man's role is?

I don't

do you think grogu be in scum chat talking like this too or?

[chardonnay]

believe what I say is true or not. I don't think I ever lectured as mafia. I don't think I cared to point out what I think is messed up in others unless it was part of why someone should get yeeted. like, I'd be thinking u is messed up and this is why but you do you so you can dig your own grave. if that makes sense.

if DoO didn't have her claim I would yeet her.

Yeah, i did it maybe once as scum a long time ago... def not typical mafia play.

Omgea's early D2 fake claim gambait was full of pure unbridled townie motivation. I cannot think of a game of forum mafia I've played where scum opened an day phase early into the game with a faked mech guilty on another player, at least never a townie. THats just... exceedingly wild to me.

[chardonnay]

Hi Master Radishes,
Well, Guillotine takes a vig shot when he wakes up tomorrow.

imo he should take the shot on Nutella or Seanzie. From my pov, If i'm Seanzie here, regardless of alignment, I'm tunneling Nutella here to avoid getting shot, and he's doing it so . I think Nutella keeps looking worst, so personally, I'd shoot her (which is a flip from like 5 minutes ago, but it be like that sometimes). Neither shot here is bad i think.

Any arguments for shooting anyone else y'all? G-man maybe still?

@Guillotine hf

jack/seanzie is also good shot.

Why not Grogu for the day's PoE?

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall simple yes or no: do people have any idea what g-man's role is?

I don't

do you think grogu be in scum chat talking like this too or?

Huh?

[Seanzie]

Hi Master Radishes,
Well, Guillotine takes a vig shot when he wakes up tomorrow.

imo he should take the shot on Nutella or Seanzie. From my pov, If i'm Seanzie here, regardless of alignment, I'm tunneling Nutella here to avoid getting shot, and he's doing it so . I think Nutella keeps looking worst, so personally, I'd shoot her (which is a flip from like 5 minutes ago, but it be like that sometimes). Neither shot here is bad i think.

Any arguments for shooting anyone else y'all? G-man maybe still?

@Guillotine hf

jack/seanzie is also good shot.

Why not Grogu for the day's PoE?

Care to share your thoughts on me?

[Esooa]

I forgot about this game lol

[Esooa]

I just got in bed about to sleep too

@Made what's your secret tell on me gif

[Esooa]

also agree with the Daisy town reads, don't have anything else to say as I've not read anything but bye now

[G-Man]

@G-Man we may be launching you into space. anything you wanna say about that?

Remembering that I take a few days to put things together in my head is too much to ask of those who might remember that. It still annoys me though, and I have to look through who has been quick to latch onto this fauxmentum. One of my gifts seems to be that I have a knack for spotting baddie BS cases against me, so we’ll see if I still have that magic.

I’m not that concerned about Epi’s suspicion, because I have a civ read on him (it may be because he’s one of the few players in this game that I have a good memory of playing with). My guess is that he’s just trying to rattle the cage and see if anyone squeals. I’m more interested in those who were quick to be agreeable to the new shiny sus of G-Man.

And can we please get accurate screenshots of the EOD poll for God’s sake?!? The screenshots I have are to big to attach and I don’t have time to save them to Google and all that right now. I changed my vote to 112 with literally six seconds left on the clock. Before I did that, Kyle and Michelle were tied, so maybe I should do a curtsy and say you’re welcome.

Here are your REAL vote tallies:

112:
-Daisy
-G-Man
-Epi

Grogu:
-Chardonnay
-112
-Falcon

Kylemii:
-Mac
-reywaS
-Nutella
-Seanzie
-Daughter
-Marmot
-Michelle

Michelle:
-Radish
-Jack
-Grogu
-KZA
-Guillotine (aka Gil)
-Made
-Esooa
-Kylemii

Reywas:
-Quas

[reywaS]

Kyle reads scummy to me. Unless his style has changed this is not
Town Kyle IMO.

this post is a betrayal the likes of which have never been seen before, but reywas is probably still town

I is sorry. I have nothing but love for the Kyle.

[reywaS]

jack, gman, seanzie

Care to come at me, then? Why is my name on that list?

I'm much better at telling people's alignments when they suspect me, than when they don't.

Oh? How does that work without it descending into NOU?

[reywaS]

I mean do you use the fact that you know your alignment and assume people that sus you also know it?

I’m legit confused on the logic behind this statement.

[reywaS]

If you had said, “I’m much better at reading people when they interact with me.” That makes some sense, but to say that you can read people better when they suspect you...

That’s weird.

[Master Radishes]

If you had said, “I’m much better at reading people when they interact with me.” That makes some sense, but to say that you can read people better when they suspect you...

That’s weird.

Eh, I get it. Sometimes you can sense the suspicion on you as being disingenuous, or conversely you can tell they believe what they are saying even if they're wrong.

I'm not always great at it but I can see how it's a thing.