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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
Oh ok. Well, never mind me. I'm just compulsively butting in.Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:42 pmAnd by the way, the post you're referring to isn't the one I responded to
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Good night. ^^
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You called sig obvious town when he had made four posts. That’s hard to believe on its own power. I can conceive of a reality where you believe that though.
You also shaded me for not having the same view of sig — as though I had failed some simple test by including a four poster in my POE pool. That is even harder to believe and frankly ludicrous.
You called sig obvious town when he had made four posts. That’s hard to believe on its own power. I can conceive of a reality where you believe that though.
You also shaded me for not having the same view of sig — as though I had failed some simple test by including a four poster in my POE pool. That is even harder to believe and frankly ludicrous.
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How arrogant would I be to theorize that Tony and sig are both mafia and we’re already seeing frantic resistance to a closed box?
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I am making no comment on either of your alignments.Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:36 pm Sloonei, that post got me thinkin' and now I'm kinda wonderin'... Are you sayin' you think this dialogue between me and sig could be town/town?
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I’m sorry but I can’t take this post seriously.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:20 pmme and sig where sig is town because he's doing sig things and you ought to know better than to say otherwise and i'm town because you also ought to know betterJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:23 pmWho and why?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm at least two people below your poe line are reasonably clearly town which does not inspire confidence (falcon's a question mark tbh he has three posts)
I will leave others to judge who aren’t infected by my own bias.
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I’m sorry but I can’t take this post seriously.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:20 pmme and sig where sig is town because he's doing sig things and you ought to know better than to say otherwise and i'm town because you also ought to know betterJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:23 pmWho and why?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm at least two people below your poe line are reasonably clearly town which does not inspire confidence (falcon's a question mark tbh he has three posts)
I will leave others to judge who aren’t infected by my own bias.
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yeah that was stupidJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:48 pm @TonyStarkPrime
You called sig obvious town when he had made four posts. That’s hard to believe on its own power. I can conceive of a reality where you believe that though.
You also shaded me for not having the same view of sig — as though I had failed some simple test by including a four poster in my POE pool. That is even harder to believe and frankly ludicrous.
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Why does a strategic disagreement about a claim make Son of Anarch mafia? You can dislike it, but why do you distrust it?sig wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:00 amHate this post, I’m always against claiming earlier especially d1Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:07 pm Oh and by the way, I was kinda thinkin' about this earlier.
Isn't it better for the fruit vendor to claim right away? Basically an IC, yeah? Could have me (the watcher) go on 'em too. I know it's delayed mechanics and all, but still useful as long as I'm not killed.
And for everyone's efforts on this page, I'm gonna slap a small townread on all of you good folk right away. I'm warning ya though, my mind changes easily, but gettin' good vibes from this crowd. I like Jimmy's idea too, about Stayposi being naturally on guard about his early buddy-buddy with her. He seems like a good player, so I think her being naturally curious about all of that is pretty nice as far as ground zero reads go.
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slightly more arrogant than me saying that you don't see that sig is obvious town based off 4 posts of which 3 are scummy is badJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:51 pm How arrogant would I be to theorize that Tony and sig are both mafia and we’re already seeing frantic resistance to a closed box?
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d1
Exercise for all:
Please tell me how many mafia are contained in the set of zero posters?
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Please tell me how many mafia are contained in the set of zero posters?
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One with the potential for two. If it's three we don't have a real game.
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No good reason, I just don't like all the votes on sig and feel like Marmot can get some attention too.
No good reason, I just don't like all the votes on sig and feel like Marmot can get some attention too.
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I think 2 is very plausible. Vegas is placing the line at 1.0 though.
I am going to be unavailable tomorrow. Maybe I can sneak in here and there, but it won’t be much. I’m attending the Bengals game and doing a bunch of driving.
I am going to be unavailable tomorrow. Maybe I can sneak in here and there, but it won’t be much. I’m attending the Bengals game and doing a bunch of driving.
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You typically do 1.5 in order to avoid ties. That way you get a straight forward "Over/Under" line.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:06 pm I think 2 is very plausible. Vegas is placing the line at 1.0 though.
I am going to be unavailable tomorrow. Maybe I can sneak in here and there, but it won’t be much. I’m attending the Bengals game and doing a bunch of driving.
Which at that point I take the under.
It could a 0 poster, 2 low posters, and 1 normal quantity poster that's losing their mind about the other 3 not pulling their weight.
I'm not a good mafia player, but I play one on TV.
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So the last page was SoA vs Sig which I kind of see looking better for SoA based on Sig's weird mis-informed defense.
I saw the stuff with TSP and JJJ. Overall not sure what to think of TSP. He's meme'y which was kind of what he was in Buckets, which he was town there.
I think my town list remains how it was, I didn't pick up anything new, but nothing fell off or made me question anything. So I'm fine read wise.
I saw the stuff with TSP and JJJ. Overall not sure what to think of TSP. He's meme'y which was kind of what he was in Buckets, which he was town there.
I think my town list remains how it was, I didn't pick up anything new, but nothing fell off or made me question anything. So I'm fine read wise.
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Really? You seemed skeptical about the reads on me. What changed?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:48 pmI have no qualms with the top tier.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:46 pmIt could be. Right now, I'm feeling he is happy town sorting, though it could be just an act of course, or worse, the consensus reads are not great. I remember finding his caution for reading Ilario town a bit odd, though it made more sense with what I perceive to be history between them.
Do you have an opinion on Jimmay's read list, which is basically also my read list tbh
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I tried to search up slooneis iso to see if I missed something that would answer my own question but I don’t see the iso tags anywhere this game? Is that part of the setup ? Or am I just not looking properly
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Skeptical is not the right word. People were asserting strong town reads on you and I did not understand why. I had no suspicion, I just wanted clarification.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:58 pmReally? You seemed skeptical about the reads on me. What changed?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:48 pmI have no qualms with the top tier.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:46 pmIt could be. Right now, I'm feeling he is happy town sorting, though it could be just an act of course, or worse, the consensus reads are not great. I remember finding his caution for reading Ilario town a bit odd, though it made more sense with what I perceive to be history between them.
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No one has compiled ISO links yet, but you can access them manually on the left hand side of the page, underneath the player's avatar.
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Lmao I forgot what I wanted to say
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I have never played with him but my impression of him based on nothing at all but a whim is that he’s the type of player that likes to go against the grain as town and is more conformist as mafia? He’s giving me those kinda vibes, especially with your description of him being mischop bait
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If tony is mafia I’d probably lean on sig being townJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:51 pm How arrogant would I be to theorize that Tony and sig are both mafia and we’re already seeing frantic resistance to a closed box?
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Sigs initial reaction to spfs note about his timing felt scummy to me and so did his first initial entry into the game.
Though in his spout with soa I saw glimpses of towny frustration
So yeah I’m not sure what my read is on this slot atm
Though in his spout with soa I saw glimpses of towny frustration
So yeah I’m not sure what my read is on this slot atm
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Could be. If I were doing interaction analyses though I wouldn't separate them at all. This is getting ahead of ourselves anyway so no matter.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:26 pmIf tony is mafia I’d probably lean on sig being townJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:51 pm How arrogant would I be to theorize that Tony and sig are both mafia and we’re already seeing frantic resistance to a closed box?
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I’ll know the answer once they start postingJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:32 pm Exercise for all:
Please tell me how many mafia are contained in the set of zero posters?
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ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:30 pmI’ll know the answer once they start postingJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:32 pm Exercise for all:
Please tell me how many mafia are contained in the set of zero posters?
[Dolby, G-Man, Johanna]
Lol I felt so towny writing that answer out
I wonder if wolf me would have thought of that
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This doesn't look like a player interested in sorting the motivations of Son of Anarch. It looks like a player dictating a viewpoint as though it's already obvious (it shouldn't be).sig wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:30 pmNah see the logic is you finding a scum read is scummy based off the posts I’ve read and your reasoning. Trying to frame it as me saying everyone is a false narrative which you’re trying to create to get me lynched which basically stems from the fact your salty i don’t think your outing idea is pro town what do ever.Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:29 pm Your line of logic sig is that anyone who disagrees with or finds a scum read on them scummy must be scummy because "omgus". I don't think that's how any of this works.
Separate note: it is true that in the increasingly distant past sig was often a mistaken Day 1 elimination on The Syndicate. I don't really think that's relevant anymore and it has no bearing in my view of or treatment of sig in this game.
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Is being soft and/or cuddly alignment-indicative? Please elaborate.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:25 pm These posts in particular are what I'm talking about, feels like Ilario is playin' a soft cuddly game
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Fwiw I think it’s a dangerous road to go down if we already expect the zero posters to be scum heavy, or set an expectation that there’s a high number of scum in the zero posters. Whilst I feel good about the towncore atm the best indicator of that we are going astray would be if the zero posters come in and start towntelling. But I feel as though if we already have an arbitrary expectation that the zero posters will be scum heavy then we set ourselves to a bias and almost predispose ourselves to finding them more scummy than they actually might be once they do start speaking. I think if you approach someone with the mentality of thinking they’re likely to be scum then you’re more likely to misread them.
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I don't fault you for feeling that way.ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:42 pm Fwiw I think it’s a dangerous road to go down if we already expect the zero posters to be scum heavy, or set an expectation that there’s a high number of scum in the zero posters. Whilst I feel good about the towncore atm the best indicator of that we are going astray would be if the zero posters come in and start towntelling. But I feel as though if we already have an arbitrary expectation that the zero posters will be scum heavy then we set ourselves to a bias and almost predispose ourselves to finding them more scummy than they actually might be once they do start speaking. I think if you approach someone with the mentality of thinking they’re likely to be scum then you’re more likely to misread them.
I'm not worried. It's a pretty common phenomenon in a POE approach given that zero-posters are never leaving that space without making posts. Once they arrive they will get their fair shake. Indeed their perspectives will be of critical importance. Finding the town among them is extremely important to sort out the remainder of the game, especially if two or three of them are town -- that's our first and best indicator that something elsewhere in the consensus may be awry.
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Meh I should probably elevate the standard here. His general approach (NAA's) is familiar enough relative to what I saw in Bonk Mafia. His vote for me doesn't reflect positive momentum though so he can continue to earn his town read however it is he goes about doing that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:11 pm NAA is probably town. Swap him with Marmot on my list.
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Yes.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:39 pmIs being soft and/or cuddly alignment-indicative? Please elaborate.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:25 pm These posts in particular are what I'm talking about, feels like Ilario is playin' a soft cuddly game
Maf are less likely to try and make waves and push players, as they'd like to remain as inconspicuous as possible.
Soft & cuddly is less likely to draw negative attention, which Maf are trying to avoid.
But I feel like you know this already
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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I think all of those things tend to depend on personality more than on alignment. They're probably true in some cases. Do you have any new views of the game?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:54 pm Yes.
Maf are less likely to try and make waves and push players, as they'd like to remain as inconspicuous as possible.
Soft & cuddly is less likely to draw negative attention, which Maf are trying to avoid.
But I feel like you know this already
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What are you talking about? How are you moving from my dislike of a plethora of TRs on D1, to my reads and the connections between my SRs? It's D1, I'm not making connections between my SRs, that's a fools errand at this stage.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:23 pmWho is not earning their town reads?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:51 pmCuz TR's should be earned, not thrown about like candy at a kid's birthday party.
Last game we played, I was impressed by your reads tbh. This game, I am not vibing with them much. Would maybe help if you could explain the connection you see between your suspicions, if there are any?
Since when have I had impressive reads?
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Redundant. If it ain't good, you don't need to also tell us it's yikes.Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:29 pm Sig's defensive reaction ain't good... Kinda yikes if ya ask me.
Why do I feel you're trying to sell me something?
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Redundant. If it ain't good, you don't need to also tell us it's yikes.Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:29 pm Sig's defensive reaction ain't good... Kinda yikes if ya ask me.
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Pushing low posters D1? Never seen scum do that before...Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:03 pm Also I'm thinkin' there's probably a scum in the 0-posters. Not sure if mafia the syndicate is the same, but on mafia scum a ton of folk hate randin' mafia to the point where they'll barely post. It can get pretty annoyin' and well... we've got three guys here not speakin' and I don't feel super bamboozled yet. I think I'm gonna make an enemy out of anyone who comes into the thread now.
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Well falcon's posts certainly bear his typical town personality. Trust no one. I am not terribly confident that this is a good reason to call him town, but at the very least he looks familiar.
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This seems to me to be the most "readable" (as in, for alignment) sentence in Marmot's posts so far. My initial interpretation was that it was a decent process. Upon revisiting I am less moved given that it results in suspicion (of Lime Coke) being converted to the absence of a read.Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:35 am The reason I'd stated interest in voting for LC was that when I first joined the thread, you'd been pretty quick in responding to my posts, but took much longer to respond to my question asking about scumreads. But I also see that you were interacting with someone else, and your response is agreeable in the sense that I believe what you said, so I'm willing to walk that back for now.
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Take your friendly nudge and kindly sit on it my good sir. I told you all in the sign-up thread that I would miss yesterday and today.
It seems I have much to catch up on. My brain is fried though, so it will have to wait for tomorrow.
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