Fleabag Mafia mafia win

[falcon45ca]

Is coffee the most advertised (free advertising) addictive substance on the market?

I think it is. Everywhere you go people tell you about their addiction regardless of time of day, or activity.

I've had my coffee
Haven't had my coffee
Not enough coffee
I need more coffee
Can I have coffee this late in the day?

It's crazy.

No, sex is.

Most people don't talk about sex.

On the internet?



I think you're mistaken there. Big mistake. Huge.

Have you even been on r/conservative?

No, I rarely reddit

[G-Man]

There's common ground between Falcon and Lime Coke in that they both sus ilario throughout the game so far. They reach their suspicions independently, however. Falcon latches onto ilario from the get-go because of 'cuddly' qualities. Am I to assume that they have experience together in prior games?

This looks to be the first time Falcon interacts with Lime Coke:

Spoiler: show

Sloonei
JJJ
SPF
Ilario
Son of Anarch
Dizzy

Any questions?

Yeah, why?

Not much, and that could cut either way as a 'not much' post.

Falcon gives a TR to Sig when the heat was mounting and ends up sticking with ilario with his vote. I called his content fluffy earlier and I stand by that. His vote on ilario feels soft too.

Here are his trustfall comments:

Spoiler: show

Dolby - I tend to jump quickly on top of things that I don't like in game play, like his "haven't been able to catch up", and I'm wrong far more often than I'm right.

Dyslexicon - Has pushed the game forward and isn't afraid to engage and discuss with players.

G-Man - I can't actually think of much, other than being a low poster doesn't necessarily make one Maf

ilario - Again, could be that I'm tunneling and focusing too much on idiosyncrasies that I tend to scum read

JaggedJimmyJay - Probably has done more good for the town & thread health than I'd like to admit

Johanna - Comes across as earnestly trying to solve for town

Lime Coke - Seems in their town meta as far as I know their town meta

Marmot - Activity D2 has been of the solvey type I expect from town Marmot. He spins his tires more as Maf IMO

NotAnAxehole - Has a straightforward approach that doesn't feel agenda-y, seems direct and trying to solve rather than muddy waters.

Sloonei - See above. Different approach, but the motivation feels the same

Son of Anarch - Doesn't come across as overly wary or shy about approaching the game & giving reads.

TonyStarkPrime - Is in his town meta as far as I know and expect from it

His reason to trust ilario is not something that ilario has done, but rather his own bias. Isn't that not how the trustfall was supposed to work? Also, his Lime Coke assessment is also very soft. Both of these have a sort of built-in defense about them that can be utilized later.


Here he even inserts ilario into Lime Coke's slot to modify a potential solve:

Spoiler: show

Thanks for doing those everyone.

@falcon45ca, how do you feel about the solve I proposed? From your perspective only one of the possible teams can be correct.

I'm sorry, what's the solve?

From this
and this

I determined the mafia team must be either:

Dolby, G-Man, Lime Coke, falcon
or
Dolby, G-Man, Lime Coke, Son of Anarch

Oh ok.

I don't think LC is Maf, doesn't feel right, ditto SOA. I'd put ilario in their spot Otherwise this is a POE I can work with.

Is there anything in light of today's events that shook Lime Coke's view of ilario that may have changed Falcon's view as well? I'd like to know.


Overall, I can see potential breadcrumbs from Falcon to Lime Coke. It's not as distinct as what I see in the other direction. If Lime Coke flips mafia, Falcon's ISO will need parsed again.

I'm going to [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine at the moment to keep things spicy. I don't like that this means I am voting alongside Lime Coke, but I think he's just stuck there.

[Dolby]

TSP
NAA
Johanna - having played with Jo in dozens of games, and given that she isn't a fish out of water rn, I'm pretty confident in her confidence
Ilario - can explain more but something just tells me this isn't scum

idk who my next two town would be but they don't have the same level of confidence as the above

[Dolby]

I'm considering lauching a crusade against JJJ lol

[Son of Anarch]

Remind me never to join a game with such short phases again hahaha

[Son of Anarch]

I feel kinda bad for not being able to contribute as much as I normally would be able to and I'm not sure that'll change until there's less posts/less people sadly

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

NO!

[NotAnAxehole]

short

Kek

[Lime Coke]

I still don't know what to do and if you're going to use up a ML might as well use it on me.

My guess is that Falcon is mafia. That's relatively it.

[Dolby]

This mainly comes down to that I think that the "low posters" have a good chance of being pure, and he's kinda set up to chainsaw us since d1. That's literally it. I guess he's been not cautious enough in townleaning people for me but it's a site meta thing.

Though I do kinda feel that a lot of his posts are trying to be townread through vibes

Someone talk to me about this

[NotAnAxehole]

This mainly comes down to that I think that the "low posters" have a good chance of being pure, and he's kinda set up to chainsaw us since d1. That's literally it. I guess he's been not cautious enough in townleaning people for me but it's a site meta thing.

Though I do kinda feel that a lot of his posts are trying to be townread through vibes

Someone talk to me about this

Site meta is to kill of the same players repeatedly and claim that the result isn't RNG.

R.I.P. Sig

[NotAnAxehole]

Let's kill Falcon though, that'll be fun.

[Dolby]

This mainly comes down to that I think that the "low posters" have a good chance of being pure, and he's kinda set up to chainsaw us since d1. That's literally it. I guess he's been not cautious enough in townleaning people for me but it's a site meta thing.

Though I do kinda feel that a lot of his posts are trying to be townread through vibes

Someone talk to me about this

Site meta is to kill of the same players repeatedly and claim that the result isn't RNG.

R.I.P. Sig

I mean, a lot of people began hard townreading more people than I'm used to for that point in the game lol.

But I do think that JJJ's behavior if scum, today is a miss, and gman/Jo are pure is very well-aligned to the gamestate

[NotAnAxehole]

I'd also like to point out that neither of the two ICs are voting Lime Coke :P

[Dolby]

Fuck it I'm just gonna do it

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

This mainly comes down to that I think that the "low posters" have a good chance of being pure, and he's kinda set up to chainsaw us since d1. That's literally it. I guess he's been not cautious enough in townleaning people for me but it's a site meta thing.

Though I do kinda feel that a lot of his posts are trying to be townread through vibes

Someone talk to me about this

Site meta is to kill of the same players repeatedly and claim that the result isn't RNG.

R.I.P. Sig

Given what I'm seeing in the last few games...

I'm not surprised by this.

[Dolby]

I'd also like to point out that neither of the two ICs are voting Lime Coke :P

this is intriguing and I should critically evaluate those slots

later though

[NotAnAxehole]

This mainly comes down to that I think that the "low posters" have a good chance of being pure, and he's kinda set up to chainsaw us since d1. That's literally it. I guess he's been not cautious enough in townleaning people for me but it's a site meta thing.

Though I do kinda feel that a lot of his posts are trying to be townread through vibes

Someone talk to me about this

Site meta is to kill of the same players repeatedly and claim that the result isn't RNG.

R.I.P. Sig

Given what I'm seeing in the last few games...

I'm not surprised by this.

I even pointed out to Sloonei that he was trying to get Sig to do things outside of Sig's own town meta in order to potentially not vote him. Which is hilarious and ridiculous. It's not one player though, it's just how it is, creature last game... This game Sig... Previous game Made. As I understand these players get it early and often.

[Lime Coke]

This mainly comes down to that I think that the "low posters" have a good chance of being pure, and he's kinda set up to chainsaw us since d1. That's literally it. I guess he's been not cautious enough in townleaning people for me but it's a site meta thing.

Though I do kinda feel that a lot of his posts are trying to be townread through vibes

Someone talk to me about this

Site meta is to kill of the same players repeatedly and claim that the result isn't RNG.

R.I.P. Sig

Given what I'm seeing in the last few games...

I'm not surprised by this.

I even pointed out to Sloonei that he was trying to get Sig to do things outside of Sig's own town meta in order to potentially not vote him. Which is hilarious and ridiculous. It's not one player though, it's just how it is, creature last game... This game Sig... Previous game Made. As I understand these players get it early and often.

It's kinda rough trying to read these individuals as a town player because the playstyle just naturally hurts them when there's much more active and prominent voices in the thread.

Also think it's roughly the same feeling every game of "I don't want to ML this player because they're good an it would be embarrassing if I killed a good town player." So the LHF's get blasted way more than them.

Which sucks to have but even I fall for it and I feel like it just hurts my game.

[NotAnAxehole]

@Dolby I wouldn't go for JJJ, I find it very hard for him to be mafia. If you're looking to go against the grain, I would suggest Sloonei who could be mafia in a narrow world with any of G-Man, Johanna, Lime Coke, Marmot.

[NotAnAxehole]

I would also kill Marmot

[Dolby]

@Dolby I wouldn't go for JJJ, I find it very hard for him to be mafia. If you're looking to go against the grain, I would suggest Sloonei who could be mafia in a narrow world with any of G-Man, Johanna, Lime Coke, Marmot.

I just don't think it's Sloonei

I feel like I've seen more town moments from Sloonei, and he's the only one in the new triad who doesn't feel like they're setting up a chainsaw

[Dolby]

@falcon45ca you were here a bit ago, what do your reads look like rn?

[NotAnAxehole]

who doesn't feel like they're setting up a chainsaw

This is just how JJJ plays, and I agree with the playstyle from a town PoV.

[Dolby]

Like, JJJ has probs been the most visible person setting up to go for the lowposters and that ain't good

[Dolby]

who doesn't feel like they're setting up a chainsaw

This is just how JJJ plays, and I agree with the playstyle from a town PoV.

fine

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

Johanna voting me and not saying anything at all about me, especially with my catch up posts, is kinda scummy from her.

Like she acknowledged it but like...at least give some kind of opinion?

[Dolby]

Johanna voting me and not saying anything at all about me, especially with my catch up posts, is kinda scummy from her.

Like she acknowledged it but like...at least give some kind of opinion?

Johanna is already pretty far out of scum meta imo.

Also sometimes she does just not interact with her SRs

[NotAnAxehole]

Johanna voting me and not saying anything at all about me, especially with my catch up posts, is kinda scummy from her.

Like she acknowledged it but like...at least give some kind of opinion?

I think Johanna has been disproportionately town read by players in the PoE which isn't super amazing. I also haven't read a single post that contains a [spoiler tag, so I have no read on her other than my D1 inactivity read.

[Lime Coke]

Johanna voting me and not saying anything at all about me, especially with my catch up posts, is kinda scummy from her.

Like she acknowledged it but like...at least give some kind of opinion?

Johanna is already pretty far out of scum meta imo.

Also sometimes she does just not interact with her SRs

Bleh, sounds like an attempt to make it look like she's distancing from another town player so that everyone else ends up looking at it going "Are these two partners for barely mentioning each other?"

If that's her thing then...not really a fan of it? Feels like a reason to not try to solve someone in good faith.

[Lime Coke]

Falcon or Illario/Johanna/Dolby/Marmot make sense?

[Dolby]

Lime Coke how do you feel aobut the triad?

[NotAnAxehole]

Falcon or Illario/Johanna/Dolby/Marmot make sense?

I really like a Marmot kill.

I noticed for long stretches of the game Illario was posting as though like only 1 other player existed in the thread, D1 it felt like he was disproportionately quoting and responding to or talking about Dizzy, early day 2 there was an obsession about me, though that was somewhat thread wide... It's an easy play for mafia to really focus on one player who's irrelevant to their plans / who they have no intention of voting for.

What do you think of that?

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca you were here a bit ago, what do your reads look like rn?

My POE is unchanged from last night

[Dolby]

ngl kinda feel like I'm being ignored here but in all fairness this is basically my first time posting today

[Dolby]

@falcon45ca you were here a bit ago, what do your reads look like rn?

My POE is unchanged from last night

Can you articulate why Dizzy and Ilario are in the PoE?

[Dolby]

Also, who are your lowest townies and why?

[NotAnAxehole]

ngl kinda feel like I'm being ignored here but in all fairness this is basically my first time posting today

You're not, we just disagree to such an extent that is hard to bridge.

[NotAnAxehole]

Like I would feel better if we voted Marmot over Falcon

[Lime Coke]

Lime Coke how do you feel aobut the triad?

The Dizzy/Sloonei/JJJ thing?

Judging how the game is panning out, I'm starting to come to the grip of there is indeed one in there. However wouldn't say Dizzy is one at this point.

[Dolby]

Like I would feel better if we voted Marmot over Falcon

sell me

[NotAnAxehole]

@Dolby @Lime Coke would you compromise onto Marmot?

[Dolby]

@Dolby @Lime Coke would you compromise onto Marmot?

probably?

They are both part of a set of players that I don't have a strong read on.

I actually don't like how they tried to make my initial comments on them a big deal and continued using it as primary justification on me heading into today

[NotAnAxehole]

Like I would feel better if we voted Marmot over Falcon

sell me

[Lime Coke]

Falcon or Illario/Johanna/Dolby/Marmot make sense?

I really like a Marmot kill.

I noticed for long stretches of the game Illario was posting as though like only 1 other player existed in the thread, D1 it felt like he was disproportionately quoting and responding to or talking about Dizzy, early day 2 there was an obsession about me, though that was somewhat thread wide... It's an easy play for mafia to really focus on one player who's irrelevant to their plans / who they have no intention of voting for.

What do you think of that?

He will try to do that as town sometimes because he likes trying to solve with other people. In a vacuum it looks like a pocket attempt but it's something that I don't think he'd have trouble faking as mafia.

Though I feel like as mafia Illario would try to get interactions with his partners to try to distance. Like he's not a noob wolf player that would make his stuff look obvious.

[Lime Coke]

@Dolby @Lime Coke would you compromise onto Marmot?

Not opposed.

[Dolby]

Like I would feel better if we voted Marmot over Falcon

sell me

I'm sorry but I have no idea what this means

[NotAnAxehole]

Like I would feel better if we voted Marmot over Falcon

sell me

I'm sorry but I have no idea what this means

I tried, let's try voting instead.

[NotAnAxehole]

Consider dark green to be non-partners, everything else is for me, you can ignore.

[Dolby]

I kinda just like LC on skim

I want them to articulate how they feel about Anarch but that's about it