Fleabag Mafia mafia win

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Hammer is at 4

Poll ended at Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:00 pm

dyslexicon
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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@Lime Coke @G-Man we're moving it to Marmot
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:11 pm I kinda just like LC on skim

I want them to articulate how they feel about Anarch but that's about it
Well I liked him trying to get onto the game despite not having internet and using his phone data during EOD1. I feel like as town that players would try to be here as much as possible for the game.

Problem is that I asked him earlier about what he prefers alignment wise and he ignored it so the progress is entirely halted.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Like I'm better at solving you based on how you treat my slot and how you interact with me.

If you ignore me and you get misyeeted by me, it's on you for ignoring me.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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@falcon45ca why is your vote on ilario?
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Lime Coke now has a competing wagon, this is way more fun.

@Johanna you can vote for Lime Coke now.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Marmot wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:29 pm Lime Coke now has a competing wagon, this is way more fun.

@Johanna you can vote for Lime Coke now.
She already is.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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But in order for my vote for myself to be serious, I expect the following:

@Dolby I expect a solid reason to vote for me. Your last read on me was a can be town read early on in Day 2. You haven't talked about me since then. I see that you uh, have a vibe read of Lime Coke and kinda just like LC on skim, but I expect more than this.

@NotAnAxehole to be honest, I don't know why you suspect me. I've only seen you voice a strong interest in killing me as of today. Can you explain why you want this?

@Lime Coke you still haven't responded to my question of why I'm a scumread to you. You said that you got hit in the head and forgot who I was, but that says nothing to me about why you scumread me.


If all three of you can do these things, I will consider keeping my vote where it is. Otherwise, I'll remain convinced that you're two mafia and an IC with more interest in leading a counter-wagon than in yeeting scum.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?

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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:13 pm @Lime Coke @G-Man we're moving it to Marmot
Thanks but no thanks. Marmot wasn't in my POE. I'm not sold on what's been put forth yet.

Also, now that it is 4-4, please be careful folks. Hammer is 7, and it only takes one or two more civvies caught up in the rush of the moment to make a mistake and help the baddies pull off a mischop. Patience. Yes, patience will be our ally this day.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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I'm heading out. You have 3 hours, that should be plenty of time, and it's roughly when I'll be back.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?

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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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currently not able to be here, but marmot should not be chopped today
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Marmot wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:38 pm I'm heading out. You have 3 hours, that should be plenty of time, and it's roughly when I'll be back.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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G-Man wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:37 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:13 pm @Lime Coke @G-Man we're moving it to Marmot
Thanks but no thanks. Marmot wasn't in my POE. I'm not sold on what's been put forth yet.

Also, now that it is 4-4, please be careful folks. Hammer is 7, and it only takes one or two more civvies caught up in the rush of the moment to make a mistake and help the baddies pull off a mischop. Patience. Yes, patience will be our ally this day.
This just makes me thing Marmot is actually your partner
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:39 pm currently not able to be here, but marmot should not be chopped today
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

I listen to SPF more, sorry Axe.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Marmot wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:37 pm But in order for my vote for myself to be serious, I expect the following:

@Dolby I expect a solid reason to vote for me. Your last read on me was a can be town read early on in Day 2. You haven't talked about me since then. I see that you uh, have a vibe read of Lime Coke and kinda just like LC on skim, but I expect more than this.

@NotAnAxehole to be honest, I don't know why you suspect me. I've only seen you voice a strong interest in killing me as of today. Can you explain why you want this?

@Lime Coke you still haven't responded to my question of why I'm a scumread to you. You said that you got hit in the head and forgot who I was, but that says nothing to me about why you scumread me.


If all three of you can do these things, I will consider keeping my vote where it is. Otherwise, I'll remain convinced that you're two mafia and an IC with more interest in leading a counter-wagon than in yeeting scum.
Fine

I don't like your fixation on my slot, particularly given that it's fixed on one event, and scumreading me for that looking at it again is a big wtf

Some D1 interactions around SPF didn't rub me right

Sig hedge is bad in retrospect

I also don't really see any reason to think that you're town when I'm looking back. I kinda liked the quick interjections initially, but I began to realize that a lot of them weren't contributing to a solve.

Pushing Sloonei out of everyone in the triad is also whack. And I have no idea why you're pushing him

yeah that's it

Lime Coke, I just vibe with them, there's a few posts of theirs that I liked, and I kinda think that they aren't teammates with my pet scumread of JJJ
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:41 pm
G-Man wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:37 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:13 pm @Lime Coke @G-Man we're moving it to Marmot
Thanks but no thanks. Marmot wasn't in my POE. I'm not sold on what's been put forth yet.

Also, now that it is 4-4, please be careful folks. Hammer is 7, and it only takes one or two more civvies caught up in the rush of the moment to make a mistake and help the baddies pull off a mischop. Patience. Yes, patience will be our ally this day.
This just makes me thing Marmot is actually your partner
That's impossible. JJJ's colorful spreadsheet ruled it out. To suggest a G-Marmot team would be to reject the spreadsheet. Do not give in to such treacherous thoughts.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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I loosely like GMan, but this is more for sharing his notes on individual posts than anything that happened after that from him
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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The Marmot wagon is terrible. It is also fake while Marmot is on it himself.

Dolby's suspicion of me seems fake. "Oh no he wants to chop low posters" is not a case. It's a statement of truth. Chopping low posters isn't "scummy", especially when it's such a narrow characterization of the analyses that have led me to my conclusions.

My reads haven't changed. This feels like a mafia team squirming for air. No thanks.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:45 pm Pushing Sloonei out of everyone in the triad is also whack. And I have no idea why you're pushing him
The "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:45 pm Pushing Sloonei out of everyone in the triad is also whack. And I have no idea why you're pushing him
The "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Lime Coke and Dolby are my top suspects.

G-Man is a suspect for whom I can halfway conceive of a town universe.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:45 pm Pushing Sloonei out of everyone in the triad is also whack. And I have no idea why you're pushing him
The "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
I'm including Dizzy in this fwiw
Suspecting Jay -- sensible and I literally do
Suspecting Dizzy -- unknown viewpoint
Suspecting Sloonei -- wack


How can these perspectives exist together? I don't believe you.
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Re: Fleabag Mafia d2

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Suspecting Lime Coke -- naw I have vibes

Others should comment if they haven't already, because Dolby doesn't look authentic at all to me right now.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:00 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:45 pm Pushing Sloonei out of everyone in the triad is also whack. And I have no idea why you're pushing him
The "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
I'm including Dizzy in this fwiw
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Suspecting Sloonei -- wack


How can these perspectives exist together? I don't believe you.
I expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:02 pm Suspecting Lime Coke -- naw I have vibes

Others should comment if they haven't already, because Dolby doesn't look authentic at all to me right now.
If you're town you should really take a honest look at your ego bc this is prompted entirely by my read on you.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:06 pm I expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.
1) What does this have to do with my alignment? Receiving feedback from the game and allowing it to have an influence over my assessments is pretty critical to anyone who isn't interested in playing by themselves in the corner.

2) Nowhere in this post have you mentioned the entire gigantic analytic effort I produced that explains in clear terms how I came upon my suspicions, including of Lime Coke, and how I came upon my clearances. You're representing my work as though I looked at the post count list, marked the four lowest numbers, and farted them into the thread with no further thought.

I don't believe you.
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@Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:

What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:00 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:45 pm Pushing Sloonei out of everyone in the triad is also whack. And I have no idea why you're pushing him
The "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
I'm including Dizzy in this fwiw
Suspecting Jay -- sensible and I literally do
Suspecting Dizzy -- unknown viewpoint
Suspecting Sloonei -- wack


How can these perspectives exist together? I don't believe you.
I expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.
Is Dyslexicon a reasonable suspect?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:

What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Sloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/Johanna
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Sloonei wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:00 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:45 pm Pushing Sloonei out of everyone in the triad is also whack. And I have no idea why you're pushing him
The "triad" is a confirmed townie, Sloonei, and I. There are two options to push. Sloonei and I have been identical, and you've noted that yourself. Pretending I am an appropriate "pet suspect" while Sloonei is somehow a "wack" suspicion is nonsense.
I'm including Dizzy in this fwiw
Suspecting Jay -- sensible and I literally do
Suspecting Dizzy -- unknown viewpoint
Suspecting Sloonei -- wack


How can these perspectives exist together? I don't believe you.
I expect the default to be different from just "the majority of low posters are evil" without further evaluation of your townreads, and been doing it since the start. Now you have changed your townreads around more than a bit. Lime Coke is one of them. It seems that he got more scrutiny for the main reason that he was the least consensus of your reads, and much of your reevaluation there was directed from external forces.
Is Dyslexicon a reasonable suspect?
Yes. There's like 3ish people who have them in their PoE if I recall correctly. I also get the same chainsaw vibes from them at points but that's mainly confined within Day One
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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:

What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Sloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/Johanna
If I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.
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And telling me that I haven't been further evaluating my town reads after the ridiculous turbulence I have experienced in this day phase -- it's hard for me to understand how you can read my posts, Dolby, and interpret them that way. It feels like being told by a librarian I never visit my local public library while I am literally standing at the counter trying to check out a book.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:

What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Sloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/Johanna
If I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.
I recognize that you currently townread Johanna ftr, and have them top spot of the PoE. I don't like the day one discourse surrounding all three of our slots and how it's evolved today.

Can you tell me how LC's early posts felt like TMI?
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I have every intention of voting for Lime Coke today, I'm just trying to keep the day moving with random votes and slapping the word pressure here and there.
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I have every intention of voting for Lime Coke today, I'm just trying to keep the day moving with random votes and slapping the word pressure here and there.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:

What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Sloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/Johanna
If I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.
I recognize that you currently townread Johanna ftr, and have them top spot of the PoE. I don't like the day one discourse surrounding all three of our slots and how it's evolved today.

Can you tell me how LC's early posts felt like TMI?
Here are a couple examples:
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:51 pm We're considering Sloonei to be obvious town, right? Despite both breaking Pranay Rule and SPF's attempt at calling a shot his entrance post was incredibly smooth.

If this is true I am looking forward to working with this man.
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:50 pm @Lime Coke you got any half-baked thoughts bubbling under the lid that you haven’t expressed yet?
Nothing of detail yet I just liked Dizzy's energy this game.

I mostly skimmed the thread upon catch-up so I missed a majority of Falcon and Axehole posts.

Falcon's interaction with me feels like town!Falcon where he does things that just ping the hell out of me and I'm inclined to tunnel him. Not married to the thought but I don't think I vote him today.
The latter is something I think could represent teammates, but if falcon is town it still just looks like TMI. The Sloonei read is more blatant. In both cases we have a general "this person did a thing that I will suggest is usually/sometimes/always suspicious but they're town anyway".
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:18 pm And telling me that I haven't been further evaluating my town reads after the ridiculous turbulence I have experienced in this day phase -- it's hard for me to understand how you can read my posts, Dolby, and interpret them that way. It feels like being told by a librarian I never visit my local public library while I am literally standing at the counter trying to check out a book.
Take Sloonei and Dizzy

I feel that both of them t has been taken for granted.

This is probably a more (very) regular case since I don't think that you're inclined to look back on them if you feel fine about them in the moment.

Probably the three that I could point to having the most evaluation are LC, Ilario, and maybe Marmot

Beyond that I feel that it's just a shift in reads.
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Jay is town and I agree with his process.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:23 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:19 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 pm @Dolby let's just simplify this to one basic question:

What's the difference between Sloonei and I that can allow your views to make sense? I am asking because I don't know, and only you can show me.
Sloonei doesn't look like he's trying to chainsaw tomorrow into me/GMan/Johanna
If I was interested in a "chainsaw" I wouldn't bother talking about this with you right now. If I sound like an ego-maniac, it's because I am trying to make sense of something that I, entering the dialogue, think doesn't make sense from someone I suspect who is also voting for one of my town reads. I also think Johanna is probably town. I just have room in the POE pool for one more.
I recognize that you currently townread Johanna ftr, and have them top spot of the PoE. I don't like the day one discourse surrounding all three of our slots and how it's evolved today.

Can you tell me how LC's early posts felt like TMI?
Here are a couple examples:
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:51 pm We're considering Sloonei to be obvious town, right? Despite both breaking Pranay Rule and SPF's attempt at calling a shot his entrance post was incredibly smooth.

If this is true I am looking forward to working with this man.
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:50 pm @Lime Coke you got any half-baked thoughts bubbling under the lid that you haven’t expressed yet?
Nothing of detail yet I just liked Dizzy's energy this game.

I mostly skimmed the thread upon catch-up so I missed a majority of Falcon and Axehole posts.

Falcon's interaction with me feels like town!Falcon where he does things that just ping the hell out of me and I'm inclined to tunnel him. Not married to the thought but I don't think I vote him today.
The latter is something I think could represent teammates, but if falcon is town it still just looks like TMI. The Sloonei read is more blatant. In both cases we have a general "this person did a thing that I will suggest is usually/sometimes/always suspicious but they're town anyway".
The first post is something that I see 100% coming from Bluekang regardless of alignment

The second, tbh I just need to read their interactions more deeply because a lot of people are saying Lime and Falcon are paired and I don't understand it fully
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NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:20 pm I have every intention of voting for Lime Coke today, I'm just trying to keep the day moving with random votes and slapping the word pressure here and there.
If I don't get to it soon, remind me to talk with you about the team you proposed with Marmot in it. I want to revisit the interactions.
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I don't want to give JJJ the vibe that I don't treat his reads seriously bc I am regretting that snappy comment a bit, I have been trying to look into the LC/Falcon case for a bit but have been getting derailed
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I need to calm my tone. I am getting the loud energies. I will be zen. Zen is best.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:27 pm I don't want to give JJJ the vibe that I don't treat his reads seriously bc I am regretting that snappy comment a bit, I have been trying to look into the LC/Falcon case for a bit but have been getting derailed
And I could stand to take a more thorough look at Dyslexicon. I will grant you that much. It's hard to make it a priority with time limited since he and I are seeing the same game, but as I suggested in the trustfall exercise: he warrants a more respectful assessment.
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I think the day's best elimination is Lime Coke.
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Even when looking at GMan's specific post I fail to see why people think Falcon and Lime Coke have significantly elevated wolf team equity.
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Dolby wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:19 pm Even when looking at GMan's specific post I fail to see why people think Falcon and Lime Coke have significantly elevated wolf team equity.
I don't get it either.
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To clarify my process when I look for compatible interactions:

I don't tend to operate that often in a space where two people are a "great fit" or a "real threat to be teamed". I'll make a base judgment and sometimes offer a lean, but for me the question is very much binary:

Do two players fit together or do they not fit together?

It maps closely to "is this player town or not town?"

Compatibility doesn't have to come with specific red flags. It only needs to lack "green" flags.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:21 pm I don't tend to operate that often in a space where two people are a "great fit" or a "real threat to be teamed".
I will, however, make more reads like this when a mafioso has actually flipped. When the interactions are still blind, that's less meaningful to me.
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