Well that’s distressing. I just reloaded the page with my fat thumbs so now I have to go back and rewrite everything. &$$*#^*
Anyway; Golden.
His D2 was a roller coaster.
First he has a lengthy engagement with DH, which essentially starts with this:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:58 am
Let me reframe.
I have a bull read on you and I don’t like having a bull read on you, so I voted you to get your attention and see what came next.
And I got your attention, and I’m seeing what comes next.
Eventually coming to this:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:15 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:10 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:09 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:07 pm
I can only assume the people voting for me/suspecting me are town because you would have to be dumb as hell to hem me of all players up in a lynch rather than just NKing me.
There’s wifom all the way down with you today.
Yes because I'm famously well known for employing WIFOM.
I don't know if this is sarcasm of not, but "I am employing wifom because I am famously known for employing wifom" is the exact "imitating yourself" thing I was talking about.
It reads to me like you're trying to 'be DH' instead of actually just... solving some stuff.
Sloonei's point that you are not doing anything to perpetuate your reads is on point. I was asking you why you'd vote Scotty or G-Man today because at this point, to me, your vote for G-Man reads like a throaway excuse to not follow through on your obsession with Scotty.
I think there's a good chance you and scotty are w/w. I'm gonna be reading Scotty's posts to see if they back that up today.
Getting burned out and getting into “a circular” discussion, sprinkled with this post:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:47 pm
I had stuff to say on Quin/Sloonei but I'm actually going to step away for a while.
And ending with this:
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:48 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:36 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:04 pm
G-Man donowalled my suspicion of him
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:19 am
Genuinely haven't read much recently, did G-Man ever address anything I said or is he suffering the same "I can't see DH's posts" affliction that sig was?
Dont mind me just forgetting my G-Man suspicion exists lmao I'm so crazy.
I'll just finish by saying that this is 'not forgetting my suspicion exists' in the same way that DF hasn't forgotten this thread exists and leave it there, because I'm getting steamed.
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:18 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:12 pm
[VOTE:
DFaraday] aubergine
OK, properly and actually forcing myself to walk away for a bit now. I expect to be back before eod, but I think in terms of the thread it's better for my vote to be somewhere else right now, and DF is now officially at 'so quiet it's no longer just a town meta thing' levels.
Sorry for getting steamed DH.
You think DF is a better vote here than LoRab?
Interesting.
I've been so engaged with my thoughts on Quin and DH, and tbh feeling like day two has for me been 'why is everyone so quiet, could people please talk' and me getting perhaps stuck a bit in tunnelling on Quin and DH, that I admit I haven't given LoRab as much thought as others and have been skimming the posts casing her today. I'll engage in it before end of day though. I've cooled the jets a bit.
Instinct says 'LoRab keeping her reads to herself is NAI' and also that she isn't a non-poster in the way DF is. I haven't independently had LoRab ping me. But I'll catch up on the case.
Ok, so for this section, I will call it the “unwilling Golden and DH thunderdome.”
Golden makes it clear that he null reads DH, and wants to clear that up.
But by the end of it, and all the heated exchanges, and eye rolls, Golden seems absolutely unchanged in his opinion and votes DF for self-professed thread health.
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Back to the Elo/Sloon end of day quandary:
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:33 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:27 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:09 pm
@Elohcin did being close to lynch give you any insight
Nope, nothing more than anyone else would know. I suppose it was:
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:29 pm
Revolution Mafia
One time, you can switch the lynch to the player of your choice.
which is another tick on my chart of why Sloonei could be bad. I'm guessing since it was a tie between Sloon and myself, instead of waiting it out to see which one of us it would be, he went ahead and switched the vote entirely.
This is the only explanation I can think of. Did you have any thoughts on it?
Oh I’m confident rev mafia isn’t Sloonei. I was wondering if it might have given you insight into people voting for you, but you know there’s no guarantee of that, I didn’t get any insight into wilgy from his vote for me.
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:45 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:27 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:29 pm
Revolution Mafia
One time, you can switch the lynch to the player of your choice.
which is another tick on my chart of why Sloonei could be bad. I'm guessing since it was a tie between Sloon and myself, instead of waiting it out to see which one of us it would be, he went ahead and switched the vote entirely.
This is the only explanation I can think of. Did you have any thoughts on it?
Obviously I can make no comment about what role Sloonei may or may not have.
But Elohcin just posited a theory in which Sloonei is a specific town role. The conclusion she draws from this theory, however, is that it points toward Sloonei being aligned with the mafia team.
Mafia Eloh probably knows which roles are mafia-aligned. Thus, she does not make a mistake like this.
I agree with this. Feels like a proper townslip.
Golden responds to Elo’s townslip post by barreling forth with his assumption that he has a good idea what Sloonei is, and it isn’t the switcher. Completely ignoring the most logical piece of logic that would have to exist if Sloonei wasn’t the switcher:
Who is?
It would be a fair assumption that Golden, who had on many occasions hinted that he has roles in mind for many players, but wouldn’t share with the class because of some unspoken town integrity or something I guess, would have a role in mind for the switcher. (NOTE: We’re not allowed to role claim, but that doesn’t mean we can’t role guess. Mafia are doing it in their channel and it’s a fair assumption that 4 minds might be better than 1, so even if you feel like you might be the fastest hamster on the wheel, the wheel continues to move after you stop.)
Anyway, back to golden.
So can be heavily implied by Golden’s posts this night, he thinks Sloonei is the Mason with Quin based on how heavily Sloonei has been defending him. But if you’re reading along, it seems far more likely Sloon is the switcher than a Mason. He could still be Mason, but I find it suspect that he hasn’t asked the question of the identity of the switcher yet.
After Sloon immediately catches the townslip, it takes multiple posts talking about other things before Golden eventually agrees.
OKAY. So Golden agrees Elo doesn’t know what the role switcher is. And he still thinks at that point that Sloon is a Mason.
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:20 am
Scotty, it’s very clear who acted yesterday and it’s not Sloonei.
So who was it?