Corrupt!? Mafia (ENDGAME)

#2851

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:09 pm Okay, I wasn't going to say anything about THAT post that Boo just made, but I think I probably should. It feels like Boo is trying to set up an association between him and Jack in case he gets shot tonight. I don't think Boo believed that G-Man would actually get votes if he voted for him, probably for similar reasons. Either way, I'm going to let you make the final decision, G-Man, but I just figured I'd offer my input on THAT post in case it's helpful.

Basically, I still think it's Boo and Wilgy.

#2852

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:09 pm Okay, I wasn't going to say anything about THAT post that Boo just made, but I think I probably should. It feels like Boo is trying to set up an association between him and Jack in case he gets shot tonight. I don't think Boo believed that G-Man would actually get votes if he voted for him, probably for similar reasons. Either way, I'm going to let you make the final decision, G-Man, but I just figured I'd offer my input on THAT post in case it's helpful.

but we gonna talk about the wilgy response

#2853

Definitely continue to analyze posts just to make sure we didn't miss anything, but that just seems like the right pairing right there.

#2854

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:11 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:09 pm Okay, I wasn't going to say anything about THAT post that Boo just made, but I think I probably should. It feels like Boo is trying to set up an association between him and Jack in case he gets shot tonight. I don't think Boo believed that G-Man would actually get votes if he voted for him, probably for similar reasons. Either way, I'm going to let you make the final decision, G-Man, but I just figured I'd offer my input on THAT post in case it's helpful.
but we gonna talk about the wilgy response

Distancing, lol

#2855

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:12 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:11 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:09 pm Okay, I wasn't going to say anything about THAT post that Boo just made, but I think I probably should. It feels like Boo is trying to set up an association between him and Jack in case he gets shot tonight. I don't think Boo believed that G-Man would actually get votes if he voted for him, probably for similar reasons. Either way, I'm going to let you make the final decision, G-Man, but I just figured I'd offer my input on THAT post in case it's helpful.
but we gonna talk about the wilgy response
Distancing, lol

yeah i thought the same thing

#2856

They both have to make a play right now to shake things up if we're right about them being scum.

#2857

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:09 pm Okay, I wasn't going to say anything about THAT post that Boo just made, but I think I probably should. It feels like Boo is trying to set up an association between him and Jack in case he gets shot tonight. I don't think Boo believed that G-Man would actually get votes if he voted for him, probably for similar reasons. Either way, I'm going to let you make the final decision, G-Man, but I just figured I'd offer my input on THAT post in case it's helpful.

I took it as more of an appeal to me because GMan shooting Wilgy beats a Wilgy/Boo team.

I’m struggling to find why town Boo would post that.

#2858

a town boo doesn't give the gun to a person who they think is scum it's just like a world of "why"

#2859

anyways i'm off work anything ya want me to do hyena or are we just waitin for eod

#2860

AGAIN THOUGH -- do NOT let my voice entirely influence your decision G-Man. Keep doing what you're doing. You might find something that I missed.

#2861

All in.

[VOTE: GMan] aubergine

#2862

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 8:14 pm anyways i'm off work anything ya want me to do hyena or are we just waitin for eod

I don't have anything specific I want anyone to do. Maybe just do what G-Man is doing and try to eliminate certain pairings just to make sure we're correct in all this.

#2863

ok. so first of all boo x jack is a huge no

#2864

I kinda prefer to lose for being outplayed by a wolf instead of the entire town just eating ourselves alive so I really hope we’re right on GMan.

Like the only mechanically possible wolf I could lose to at this point and be happy is FG. I’d be very happy to lose to her rn. I’m gonna be a little mad at myself if it’s GMan/Boo or GMan/Wilgy.

#2865

boo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 11:34 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 8:24 am ayy johann is so town so town so town

the drago read is spicy
The Drago read is parroting the thread.

oh????

#2866

boo wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:30 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 2:22 pm Boo what is your dragomir read btw I can't remember?
I dunno if I've mentioned him, so that might be why.

He isn't someone who ever sticks out to me long enough to consider. I know I've played a game where he got lynched D1 or 2 as mafia, and even then I had no idea why it went down with so much support. That hasn't really been different here. I've seen him tossed about, and I've opened his ISO, but it's just a blank wall for me. There's just more interesting people to look at.

Today I'll be tunneling Jack. Being wrong about nutella made me lose a lot of interest in this game, but now that I have that it's what I want to deal with.

ohHOHOHOH oh hoh

not boo and jack

#2867

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 12:39 am Qualified list of who I am willing to vote for as of this moment (caught up btw). All names are in alphabetical order because it's too early to try to rank anyone yet:

Would Vote to Give the Gun to Them:
-boo: He has a very logical way about him. I like it and I agree with much of what he has said as far as his opinions on mechanics, strategy, etc go.
-G-Man: He knows that gun control means using both hands.
-Hyena: New-to-me player, but I like what I see so far.
-Jack: Normally Jack's confidence/arrogance irks me a little. His 'Big-Brain' concept makes sense though. THis probably means I am misreading him and he needs to die though.
-MacDougall: He forgot that the sign-ups specified the number of baddies. That's a civ-look for him. I also want to see what the new-to-me folks think/do when Mac does whatever he wants with the gun.

Might Consider Voting For Them:
-Duskfall: The black text was irksome. Thank you for reversing course. He got sucked into side banter with new-to-me folk that did nothing to help me get to know him. I do approve of the TMNT avatar, however Raphael was better.
-Nanook: Also got dragged into choppy off-topic banter. (We have OT green for this) His saving grace right now is the point about not going into the night with just one target in mind.

Would Not Vote for Them:
Dragomir: For agreeing with Johann's idea about self-killing.
Funnygurl: For agreeing with Johann's idea about self-killing.
Johann: For proposing the self-killing idea.

Need More Input/Need to ISO:
-DrWilgy
-nutella
-Sloonei

[mention]Hyena[/mention] look at the boo read

this is why i didn't like g-man at the beginning of the game. i cleared him for the ate but since this is potentially game end we gotta consider the slimy stuff

what do you think?

#2868

Okay, so, I -did- see that post, Funny, and yeah, it did make me stop in my tracks for a moment, but I ran into another post from G-Man where he said he was an INTP (mbti stuff, by the way -- I'm in INFJ) and that he valued logic, so it would make sense that he'd have that read on Boo early on? At least, that's what I concluded after thinking about it a bunch.

#2869

oh ok 'ight

wilgy's a wolf i just checked his iso

i think we're good here

#2870

there's also like a real strange evolution of wilgy's reads on boo (and jack for that matter)

anyways he's caught

#2871

15 min.

I’m nervous but I think it’s over one way or the other right here.

#2872

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 9:45 pm 15 min.

I’m nervous but I think it’s over one way or the other right here.

What do you mean by "over"?

#2873

Also, Boo switched his vote back to G-Man without calling it. :P

#2874

I might switch to Jack last minute.

#2875

I just finished rereading Jack and I'm very uncomfortable with what is happening here. Below are the notes I took during the reread:

D1 Jack feels noncommittal and didn't voice a strong suspicion on anyone because he's afraid of the strong scum game of the people he suspects. There's abit of 'I disagree with the towncore' but that towncore was correct. There's alot of "yes I'll approve of and push any post that sees me in a town light" with Dusk.

[mention]Hyena[/mention] I'm in day 2 and It was boo who was thinking Johann + Jack. I recall you asking about that.

D2 was some bullshit with boo. Even in review I can see this as a bus, but I know I've been tunneling that mindset for abit so I'll refrain from going farther down that line.

D3 is more Boo-llshit. There's a discussion with Nanook about who should be in Nanook's shoot list. I can see this as more shaking of the towncore. There's also a contradiction Jack is making between Myself and Gman where Gman is town and I am not and am to be shot flip floppingly with boo. Jack sees me as a low poster without information that I should be shot upon, but Gman is receiving hard vouches for being town. This doesn't make sense. Gman had 6 more posts than me at the time and I believe we were both in the realm of being low-posters. I guess the 'weird interactions' Jack saw between Mac, Nanook and I? Regardless, I struggle to see this as genuine due to the clear contrast above.

Also, to match this up with some recent thoughts. I believe Jack tried making the argument. "Why didn't we just give me the gun day 3 so I could've shot boo then?" which would've been incorrect. Giving the gun to Jack day 3 was a shot on me and he explicitly said so with this quote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 12:07 pm Let's make this more like regular mafia such that it makes sense.

A vote for me is a vote to kill Wilgy.

A vote for Johann is a vote to kill Boo.

A vote for Boo is a vote to kill me.

Something like that.

D4 Jack starts with the hard argument that had me dissuaded off wanting him dead. 'The entire rest of the poe wanted me dead yesterday except Mac.' I don't like this argument as much anymore and it made sense at the time. Suppose I didn't realize that there was little foundation to it, but took it for what it was worth on 'Well, that actually makes sense.'

I missed the splurge about his disbelief on someone's ability to read something as a non t/t interaction, and I think that's just silly. Seeing two players as not t together can come from an observation of pattern. If two players are too far in sync, but the feelings aren't genuine, i.e. one coattails off the other, this can be seen as a non t/t interaction as there's a faith from one to the other that can be derived from having too much information (as scum do). I very much don't like how this was dismissed.

Jack VS Nanook starts. At this point in digestion of the reread, I actually am finally off the Jack Boo team.

And I'm not noting anything down for D5.

So, my fear here is that Boo may be good and a Gman Jack team actually makes sense. I feel silly backing off the 'Jack is bad' mindset and it's game if Jack gets the gun now. The argument at first made sense to me as to why Jack couldn't be bad, because if everyone was saying he was bad, then there's no way as that would imply a teammate was also saying he was bad at a point in the game that didn't make sense. Turns out, that argument didn't have a foundation other than a general tonal feel from the majority (of now revealed civs) stating that Jack was bad, and not everyone was truly on the shoot Jack wagon.

Also I just don't fucking get where Jack's confident townread of Gman is coming from while his read of me feels so wishy washy.

Linki: ???

Linki linki: Boo Gman?

#2876

#2877

I might switch my vote to Wilgy

#2878

I really wish we would have shot Boo earlier.

#2879

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 9:57 pm I really wish we would have shot Boo earlier.

This

#2880

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#2881

I think I have to stick with G-Man at this point. :<

#2882

I'm ready for dead villager chat!

#2883

I don't like the Silent boo swap

#2884

Good bye cruel world!

#2885

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 9:59 pm I don't like the Silent boo swap

Me neither.

#2886

This sucks.

#2887

Oh no no no no

#2888

[mention]boo[/mention]
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention]
[mention]G-Man[/mention]
[mention]Hyena[/mention]
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

In his last moments, Hyena handed the gun to G-Man. The air was tense for a few minutes...

Spoiler: show

#2889

Oh yes yes yes yes

#2890

#2891

Quoth the G-Man: hell yeah!

Me on the downside to poisoning Sloonei:

G-Man- 05/16/2020
That will tell folks that at least one baddie knows Sloonei is dangerous, which will likely point to a Syndicate regular.

Sloonei after being poisoned:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 10:03 pm Cocky theory time: Sloonei being poisoned suggests at least one syndicate regular is mafia.

#2892

well this surely was a game

sorry boo

#2893

Here's the link to the Discord server with the poisoner chat and deadchat: https://discord.gg/Nj49Rwe

#2894

Welp. Sorry, y'all. Who was your partner G-Man?

#2895

FTL start when

#2896

I had this one wrong in my head. Well done evil team.

#2897

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:03 pm FTL start when

Tomorrow.

#2898

I don't think I was ever finding scum!G-Man here, so I'm okay with the loss.

#2899

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:05 pm I don't think I was ever finding scum!G-Man here, so I'm okay with the loss.

At best, we would've gotten Wilgy, but only because we all thought he was automatically scum with one of Boo or Jack.

#2900

Quite truly, I must confess- I am a bit sad that this win was aided by my Day 2 outburst. That was an honest, real freak-out by me. It was inappropriate and I thought I had blown my cover. Someone had said the baddies didn't want the gun, so I made a push for the gun. When I was told I was unworthy, I went nuclear and unloaded. I'm sorry it happened. I honestly thought it was going to get me shot. I'm not sure how it didn't. Appeal To Emotion is not in my playbook. After some of you cleared me over it, I had to roll with the punches. I don't normally low-ball it like that as a baddie, but I really have been up past midnight on work nights for about the last two and a half weeks. It forced my hand a little.

Thanks for the game Leetic!

You have to get it right this time...