The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:42 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:39 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am Literally falling asleep and need to close the laptop before I wake up with keyboard indents on my face.

I'm still getting to know the people with whom I haven't played (or, if played once or twice, don't have a concept of how they play).

LC, I'm very much reading as civ.

J3, as well. Way too much work to go into that much detail, for it to be fake. Also, mafia often posts less than civs--because it's harder to know what to say. And also (and maybe mores) because they are spending time chatting in BTSC, and can engage in the game without posting.

Scotty reads entirely civ to me. Even though he needs to stop padding his post count. That always makes me suspish of people, although I know that isn't a tell for you. But I'm reading you as civ other than that.

I'm intrigued by Robyn. They are totally engaging with me as new to this site (to newer players). And also don't have context to read them (if we have ever played together, I need a reminder of what game).

The back and forth between Robyn and Bereft is also odd to me. Is this typical of them? I'm not suspecting them for this, but it's reading as off to me (this could also be a culture thing that developed since I was last here, so really earnestly asking).

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?
I feel like you're referencing something and I have no idea what. Or is this actually a theological question? Help! I'm way too tired to think about this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:07 am Is it too early to ask everyone for their top three town reads?

No, of course not. Let’s go ahead an box in the mafia.
I am on record as not believing in contributing to such lists, or rankings. I'm not a fan and I don't generally post them. Those here who have played with me a lot can attest.

Similarly, I hate when people trust me. Stop naming me, people! And, really....I'm kind of freaked out that I'm on this site and not yet suspected. What's up with that? I don't think that has ever happened. At all on here, and rarely in prior communities.
TMI everywhere
Where?
The reads on LC and JJJ (especially on me, that one’s egregious). And Michelle did the same thing.

what did michelle do then?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:30 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:15 am If Scotty is mafia, his team has to be exactly…

Wilgy, ts account, Abigail.

I don’t see anything else?
what about LoRab, would that fit in?
I will do that full analysis soon. My initial take was no, because I thought [hypothetical mafia] LoRab would have TMI'd Scotty town. I have reconsidered that though, and we'll see how I feel. That's kind of why I have Scotty as an alternate in my theory.

i think i know what u mean when i read more.
Why can't it be distancing?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:39 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am Literally falling asleep and need to close the laptop before I wake up with keyboard indents on my face.

I'm still getting to know the people with whom I haven't played (or, if played once or twice, don't have a concept of how they play).

LC, I'm very much reading as civ.

J3, as well. Way too much work to go into that much detail, for it to be fake. Also, mafia often posts less than civs--because it's harder to know what to say. And also (and maybe mores) because they are spending time chatting in BTSC, and can engage in the game without posting.

Scotty reads entirely civ to me. Even though he needs to stop padding his post count. That always makes me suspish of people, although I know that isn't a tell for you. But I'm reading you as civ other than that.

I'm intrigued by Robyn. They are totally engaging with me as new to this site (to newer players). And also don't have context to read them (if we have ever played together, I need a reminder of what game).

The back and forth between Robyn and Bereft is also odd to me. Is this typical of them? I'm not suspecting them for this, but it's reading as off to me (this could also be a culture thing that developed since I was last here, so really earnestly asking).

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 am okay i just have to ask @LoRab do you fear god?
I feel like you're referencing something and I have no idea what. Or is this actually a theological question? Help! I'm way too tired to think about this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:07 am Is it too early to ask everyone for their top three town reads?

No, of course not. Let’s go ahead an box in the mafia.
I am on record as not believing in contributing to such lists, or rankings. I'm not a fan and I don't generally post them. Those here who have played with me a lot can attest.

Similarly, I hate when people trust me. Stop naming me, people! And, really....I'm kind of freaked out that I'm on this site and not yet suspected. What's up with that? I don't think that has ever happened. At all on here, and rarely in prior communities.
TMI everywhere

I don't like this shade, not that I find that LoRab post particularly towny, but I hate these sort of bad "TMI" reads

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:27 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:59 am Rondo all that “keeping me in check” is omgusing my suspicions after giving me the easiest town read I have ever received.
what do you mean by this? You clearly don't think Thunal is super towny unless i am misinterpreting what you are saying
I was referring to Michelle in that comment. Rondo made an argument for why Michelle's responses to me at EOD1 were towny, and that was my counter.

oh I completely misinterpreted what you were responding too in the 1st place

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:15 am If Scotty is mafia, his team has to be exactly…

Wilgy, ts account, Abigail.

I don’t see anything else?

what about LoRab, would that fit in?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:07 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:05 am PSA: I’m being a bit edgier than usual, and I am conscious of that. If I ever upset anyone, please kick me. I am trying to regain a little edge that has degraded over the years of Mr. Nice Guy.
Or wolf in a corner

as if ur not being edgy rn LOL

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:59 am Rondo all that “keeping me in check” is omgusing my suspicions after giving me the easiest town read I have ever received.

what do you mean by this? You clearly don't think Thunal is super towny unless i am misinterpreting what you are saying

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:58 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:41 am You do you, Rondo. But I have seen you spam total b/s reads as mafia more than once, so forgive me if I don’t dismiss your content as “just Rondo things”.
yes yes. Rondo doing rondo things, easy dismissal.

How accurate have your pushes been in the past?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:57 am
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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:18 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:32 am Good morning!
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho
That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean
Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho
i think this is ~rand town perhaps
That's a pocketing attempt perhaps
i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt
[VOTE: cape] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:40 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:37 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:32 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:31 pm I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock
"I don't think Jay makes this post as mafia." is a pretty assertive statement.
It helps town imo. A simple logic tells me that mafia is not posting that.
I will not make a wall to explain it more
Why cape bad?
He said he wanted to pocket me
Cape wanting to pocket Michelle, reason enough for Michelle to be town

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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:31 pm I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:30 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
You misinterpret my post into a lock read.
If i was good with voting Sean I would
You're stretching things and i want to know why

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:30 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
You misinterpret my post into a lock read.
If i was good with voting Sean I would
You're stretching things and i want to know why
I expected you to carry on your line of questioning in some capacity to get a better read on me or something. I was not anticipating such a quick acceptance. You were right to ask me why I voted for someone with no posts, but now I am forced to ask myself if you were truly invested in that question.
Yes, I made my own judgement.
I didn't follow you

Keeping 'town leader' JJJ in check

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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:51 pm You force me to self press on Sean
not wanting to vote sean

All of these are good reason to town read Michelle.

But honestly if she doesnt post more, doesnt help me with Thunal/Cape/JJJ and find the +1 she can go into the SVS/DM/Scotty/Michelle pile of 1 of

I would much rather kill JJJ today.

honestly the Sean thing is kinda towny.

Just wanted to also point out

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:58 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:54 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:54 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:55 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:32 am Good morning!
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
You don't seem too confident here tho
That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean
Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
You don't seem too confident here tho
i think this is ~rand town perhaps
That's a pocketing attempt perhaps
This felt a bit like going through the motions, especially the pocketing attempt.
I made my initial townread on Michelle just because JJJ made some comment saying Michelle was null (or something like that) when she had like 3 posts, so i chimed in with the closest thing i had to a read on Michelle

You see, I associate Michelle with noticing certain wording things when she is town, and when I saw

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia
Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho
this, I found it kinda towny just because of that, like she is a meticulous reader who will notice these things.

PS. I said the whole I am pocketing her thing as a sort of joke, I didn't feel one way or the other about her brief return the top of page 14 but i know she's returned since but im not up to there yet
@Michelle
Fyi my vote wasn't really serious
I didn't read much of the game so I wanted to see how you react. Your reaction was a little odd, why thank me for the vote?.
After, i fell asleeo

they said their vote on me was NOT SERIOUS which is what I figured, which is why my reaction to the vote was to jokingly thank her.

my dad wants to do a trash run, sigh

will be back later lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:48 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:47 pm I think that's a good solve, I think Abby is hitting her town notes, but i have misread her before, but I do highly think her push on me day 1 was in good faith as backwards as that sounds
Abigail and Thunal are my toughest reads and I keep flipping them around in my POE.

fair enough

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:12 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 am I was very serious about suspecting Michelle and am a bit irked that folks hardly engaged. Her reads did not look real, and that has been the common theme every time I have seen her as mafia.
what do you think about me hard pushing the chop away from her if she does flip red?

also i am expecting her to towntell today and i'm conscious of the fact that she's been pocket-y towards me

why do you expect this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:44 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:41 pm feels like i have been gone forever

what's going on, i have to somewhat dip out soon but i will do a lil bit either real time or catching up

sorry if i become frozen and dont respond to every single message rondo throws at me
What is your immediate reaction to the following solve?

Michelle, S~V~S, LoRab, and ts account as the team of four

Scotty and Abigail as the first alternates

I think that's a good solve, I think Abby is hitting her town notes, but i have misread her before, but I do highly think her push on me day 1 was in good faith as backwards as that sounds

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 am I was very serious about suspecting Michelle and am a bit irked that folks hardly engaged. Her reads did not look real, and that has been the common theme every time I have seen her as mafia.

Yeah I could probably vote there if Mich hasn't improved but this is coming from someone who has to check that, but probably wont until i put groceries away whenever i need to do that

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:10 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:20 pm JJJ I am in your head. I know you are in charge of this team and now we are playing 4d chess. This is fun
I’m willing to listen to you if you can show me that you have actual purposes for the reads you are providing. I am almost certain you haven’t read this game in full just given time constraints, so explain what you’re about.

I don’t care if you suspect me if you can give a cogent reason.

any reason you started off being overly critical of Rondo?

feels like i have been gone forever

what's going on, i have to somewhat dip out soon but i will do a lil bit either real time or catching up

sorry if i become frozen and dont respond to every single message rondo throws at me

Rondo what do you think of Bereft pocketing me?

(If that is what he's doing)

having 4 nulls and 2 scumleans wasn't open enough so i had to put Bereft in light towns otherwise i would have too many townreads

Incredible logic

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:17 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:01 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:47 am Tfw when Robyn says Cape and Bereft are town and Cape puts me in light green.
Strange right?
You just scored an own goal, congrats.

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:48 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:47 am Tfw when Robyn says Cape and Bereft are town and Cape puts me in light green.
cape is naughty

@Cape90 he's locktown, put him below me and above rondo

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:05 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:01 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:47 am Tfw when Robyn says Cape and Bereft are town and Cape puts me in light green.
Strange right?
wait wtf are you even saying here
You guys are blind cape need's to keep the poe open so instead of slamming bereft with robyn he puts bereft light green. When he is saying robyn is his strongest town and his strongest town reads bereft her strongest town read he puts me higher

idk about you but my POE looks quite open to me

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:48 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:47 am Tfw when Robyn says Cape and Bereft are town and Cape puts me in light green.
cape is naughty

@Cape90 he's locktown, put him below me and above rondo

i will do as requested, he isn't hitting the things I associate with his wolfgame so... sure, but I didn't want JJJ to be too lonely D:

I do think Princess Abigail is kinda clear town though

Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:47 am Tfw when Robyn says Cape and Bereft are town and Cape puts me in light green.

i do believe you are town but when i looked back at your ISO, I honestly didn't feel as strongly, but i think real time you come across as towny

right now I am at

robyn
Rondo
Princess Abigail

Bereft
JJJ

DarlingMonroe
Scotty
thunal33
LoRab

S~V~S
Michelle

relatively in that order, though wanted to reread LoRab

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:18 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:32 am Good morning!
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho
That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean
Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.
Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.
You don't seem too confident here tho
i think this is ~rand town perhaps
That's a pocketing attempt perhaps
i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt
[VOTE: cape] aubergine

i have seen michelle as wolf react like this to something of a similar nature

don't remember exactly where, maybe a mash or something

but something unlocked in my brain when i saw this vaguely

so yeah that makes me suspicious there

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:24 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:40 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 am I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Hmm

I don't like this
I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!
i will be hoenst

when i was throwing around votes, i thought about voting a 0 poster as it felt correct to me given game state at the time + i wasn't scumreading scotty at the time i was thinking this
why do u scumread scotty?

are you wolf again? back-to-back?

So in the ~hour you posted this

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:26 pm At this point, willing to switch Scotty for really exploding my confusion with LC and LC to its max potential.

You then talked about being willing to push Scotty, so like did you like my case on Scotty? What made you willing to push Scotty then when you questioned me about it not too long ago here?

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Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:39 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:24 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:40 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 am I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Hmm

I don't like this
I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!
i will be hoenst

when i was throwing around votes, i thought about voting a 0 poster as it felt correct to me given game state at the time + i wasn't scumreading scotty at the time i was thinking this
why do u scumread scotty?

are you wolf again? back-to-back?
I have explained in great detail my suspicion on Scotty

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:34 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:17 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:21 pm Jay is such a high poster, and with not much filler, that I think inherently he tends to be town voice. Even if he’s not town lol

I think I’m slightly suspicious that I am his top town read, but that’s a me problem. I’m down to listen to his scum reads however
This also just... doesn't read correctly to me

I will explain in more detail later as i go to bowling very soon + I am pretty tired at the same time
The read here on JJJ is really kind of feels like you are just discrediting any towniness that JJJ might have by just saying this

The second part of the post is a kind of mafia tell to where a player goes like "okay but why am i ur top town, you shouldn't have me as your top town, that would look really bad for you down the line tee hee" okay i am exaggerating and putting it in bad faith, but sometimes mafia just have the intrusive thought to question whatever top townread they get instead of letting it go and then whenever someone brings up an argument saying this, they just go "oh but i would just accept the townread if i was mafia guys"

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:38 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:54 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:47 am Lorab isn’t doing anything so far to make me townread her, and frankly is rather blendy in her entrance posts.

Though I don’t remember how LoRab operates. It’s been a while
meh I can say the same thing about SVS tho too

Like I’m not even sure she made a read when she was weirded out by me in her recent post.

Ima figure her out
[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

OKay but it is seriously Scotty, he isn't comfy at all and I am starting to sus him way more then SVS
The "ima figure her out" thing was worded questionably here IMO

Also I can't explain why but I don't really like the second sentence here about assuming stuff about SVS calling Scotty weird there

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:39 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:10 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:44 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:40 am Abigail’s entrance is thoroughly null.
To be fair, she herself has said she feels nothing
???
I also just like found this jump to defense on Abigail to be weird. Like I assumed that comment didn't mean that at all

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:22 pm He doesn't feel right, like i know last time i played with scotty basically pocketing him that i was looking through a scum lens, but he is just like posting a lot of weird things and has pointed out blendy beginnings for some reason as if that's totally Alignment indicative

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:59 am If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.
I think there’s probably a difference in approach since she seems to inference the olde ways, but actively is pushing back against people townreading her. It’s like she *knows* she isn’t doing anything towny, and can’t help but acknowledge it
this seems extremely ungenerous too as it was posted pretty early into the game

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:09 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:52 pm I’ve turned around on Cape- even tho he doesn’t have a lot of posts, what posts he has made are actual reads. Obviously I would like him to expand on them, but he’s making definitive reads

Thunal on the surface looks fine with their reads, if not making reads that come off as half baked. And no one wants a half baked pie, except maybe the stray cat that hangs out on my patio after dark. He’ll eat anything.
Scumlean
the only thing u said about me was that my entrance was the most blendy and that hardly counts as a read that warrants you declaring you turned around on me.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:28 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:27 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:22 pm He doesn't feel right, like i know last time i played with scotty basically pocketing him that i was looking through a scum lens, but he is just like posting a lot of weird things and has pointed out blendy beginnings for some reason as if that's totally Alignment indicative

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:59 am If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.
I think there’s probably a difference in approach since she seems to inference the olde ways, but actively is pushing back against people townreading her. It’s like she *knows* she isn’t doing anything towny, and can’t help but acknowledge it
this seems extremely ungenerous too as it was posted pretty early into the game
In every D1, being blendy is an instant red flag for me. I expect town in most contexts to make declarative and bold reads.

Posting weird things is a quirk of mine. I’ve been called ‘awkward’ and ‘stilted’ and even ‘cringey’. Which is fine, people need to practice their adjectives. I can remember distinctly in both alignments where I was ‘caught’ as such. One I was very town. One I was very not town. So that is non alignment indicative.

In this case, I’m not really holding back on my thoughts, and I can’t help if you don’t agree with my conclusions
i could see it being towny in the "putting out content to kickstart the game" kind of sense, but to me, it also just reads as kinda a lame cop out read, like scum can have good openings
Yeah I have already said my piece

Haven't caught up yet so we will see hoe i feel when i do that but have a look for yourself and come up with your own conclusions

read all of what i said day 1?/Did it convince you?

Anyways, I think DrWigly is town for the way he handled EOD yesterday

@DrWilgy Can I ask why you scumread robyn? They are probably my top townread right now

rondo is frozen scum get him

if i had to respond to every unexplained rondo take AGAIN in a game where we are both town

im gonna have an aneurysm

I already raged at him the last time he did this garbage and I am CLOSE to doing it again

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:55 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:55 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:33 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:32 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:16 pm @Thunal33, I don't recall you engaging with my read on you so far. I have held you consistently at null and even lent a local endorsement to a 2-vote wagon that appeared on you very quickly. What do you make of my read on you, and what has held you back from talking about that (or, if you have, please point the way)?
I didn't even know you still had me as null since it's been a bit since your most recent list. I thought it made sense before my SVS push since I didn't make a whole lot of different early reads or really AI content, but right now I am a little surprised you don't have me as at least a town lean. I think I've given enough content to show my alignment and I think my willingness to prod and engage with people is towny.

I don't think I've held back from talking about it though, I just don't have much to talk about because it's a null read. I thought it would change once I got more involved with the game.
I find this post somewhat towny in a towny entitlement type of way
Imagine that, Cape town reading thunal :think:
i ignore 1 thing and that's this and all of the sudden Rondo thinks im wolf LMAO
Rondo ur giving me flashbacks to when you tunneled me when we were T/T and that's kinda cringe

Anyways, no I don't really townread Thunal at all, I am pinged by things, but I also think Thunal has moments where they say something smart
no its not one thing. I have only been talking about you/thunal/jjj since day start and pushing you as a wolf group. You see fit to respond to just this one post is damning. The fact you are trying to frame it as "oh no you ignored my post you must be bad" is hilarious to me.
ALSO LOL the flip flops

giving a nuanced read because im not a sheep like you isn't me flip flopping

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:44 pm I was ready to come in and dome Cape/Thunal/JJJ/LonCon and just push Cape all day. But I guess I need to re-assess. Probably still staying within

Still on Cape > Thunal / JJJ. Maybe Scotty as 4th now or SVS.

Town Core:
Neon, Bereft, Dr Wilgy, LoRab, Michelle, Robyn.

So JJJ I hear is a really good player

what pings did you have against JJJ? Thunal?

I believe you are town but you aren't actually giving anything concrete, like I could look at wagonomics as the reason but

1. You arent sussing Michelle
2. JJJ was on Michelle

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:16 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:12 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:58 pm Thunal wolf if Seanzie town
what made you have this thought about a 0 poster?
Because Seanzie is an easy push, suspicious naturally, 0 posting and generally the sleep chop. Thunal was on Michelle prior to the CFD I think but either way it is likely to frame michelle when he flips because michelle was getting "too close" to going over.

Also I love that you, my group with Thunal is asking me about Thunal.

Okay this is something
Seanzie isn't an easy push when he is actually here, yes, a 0 poster is always naturally going to be someone who is going to be very easy to push. JJJ brought up the idea of pushing a 0-poster, is this part of your reason for POEing him? He didn't end up on the 0 poster interestingly

I am not super convinced on the towncase on S~V~S that Bereft put out, I do think those are ~fine SVS posts though, I'm not exactly sure what Bereft was referring to with the whole point about "mafia don't do this often" thing

i was looking at Bereft's logs at the time I was"""""""""""""""""""""ignoring""""""""""""""""" you

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:55 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:33 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:32 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:16 pm @Thunal33, I don't recall you engaging with my read on you so far. I have held you consistently at null and even lent a local endorsement to a 2-vote wagon that appeared on you very quickly. What do you make of my read on you, and what has held you back from talking about that (or, if you have, please point the way)?
I didn't even know you still had me as null since it's been a bit since your most recent list. I thought it made sense before my SVS push since I didn't make a whole lot of different early reads or really AI content, but right now I am a little surprised you don't have me as at least a town lean. I think I've given enough content to show my alignment and I think my willingness to prod and engage with people is towny.

I don't think I've held back from talking about it though, I just don't have much to talk about because it's a null read. I thought it would change once I got more involved with the game.
I find this post somewhat towny in a towny entitlement type of way
Imagine that, Cape town reading thunal :think:
i ignore 1 thing and that's this and all of the sudden Rondo thinks im wolf LMAO
Rondo ur giving me flashbacks to when you tunneled me when we were T/T and that's kinda cringe

Anyways, no I don't really townread Thunal at all, I am pinged by things, but I also think Thunal has moments where they say something smart
no its not one thing. I have only been talking about you/thunal/jjj since day start and pushing you as a wolf group. You see fit to respond to just this one post is damning. The fact you are trying to frame it as "oh no you ignored my post you must be bad" is hilarious to me.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:18 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:17 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:14 pm I had paranoia that maybe robyn was playing too towny to where it turned around to being just a deep wolf

i thought a couple of micro interactions they had with me were just straight towny though and it's a dumb reason to think anyone is a wolf anyways
no robyn is town
read carefully
that's what im saying in the post

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:19 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:18 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:17 pm From the little I have been here I think Rondo is towny + started off the day towny today

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:48 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:45 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 pm Yeah you know what. [VOTE: wilgy ] aubergine
why do u sr wigly independent of michelle
i kinda dont think he does with looking at context
Hey cape wanna tell me why Michelle is voting you?
found this question towards me towny

So Rondo, what made you want to tunnel me coming into today
The first 2 pages of d1 then the subsequent 6 pages after that.
so the first 8 pages?

Rondo stop being a disingenuous [REDACTED] please

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:54 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:53 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:48 pm Like I remember wolfing with Rondo and I KNOW Rondo didn't make certain kills because "it would be damming for them"

So yeah LMAO
What has this got to do with anything?
Like, you wont directly engage with me but you are happy to side suss me?

You must have missed when I was literally actively engaging with you in the thread u twink

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:33 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:32 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:16 pm @Thunal33, I don't recall you engaging with my read on you so far. I have held you consistently at null and even lent a local endorsement to a 2-vote wagon that appeared on you very quickly. What do you make of my read on you, and what has held you back from talking about that (or, if you have, please point the way)?
I didn't even know you still had me as null since it's been a bit since your most recent list. I thought it made sense before my SVS push since I didn't make a whole lot of different early reads or really AI content, but right now I am a little surprised you don't have me as at least a town lean. I think I've given enough content to show my alignment and I think my willingness to prod and engage with people is towny.

I don't think I've held back from talking about it though, I just don't have much to talk about because it's a null read. I thought it would change once I got more involved with the game.
I find this post somewhat towny in a towny entitlement type of way
Imagine that, Cape town reading thunal :think:

i ignore 1 thing and that's this and all of the sudden Rondo thinks im wolf LMAO
Rondo ur giving me flashbacks to when you tunneled me when we were T/T and that's kinda cringe

Anyways, no I don't really townread Thunal at all, I am pinged by things, but I also think Thunal has moments where they say something smart

Like I remember wolfing with Rondo and I KNOW Rondo didn't make certain kills because "it would be damming for them"

So yeah LMAO

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:25 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:50 pm Probably leaning DM or SVS over scotty as 4th atm just because 3 wolves on Seanzie is a lot.
Silly Rondo, if I was bad I would have killed you. It’s just WiFoM but you know it’s true.

And definitely not LC, who I have a high success rate against, one on one.

So keep leaning. BBL going to bed.

Hey this and S~V~S's return is indeed scummy

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

Whenever I am wolf, I usually make these type of bad WIFOM arguments when I am usually not the one controlling the NKs anyways so it's kinda just bad

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:30 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:25 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:25 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:50 pm Probably leaning DM or SVS over scotty as 4th atm just because 3 wolves on Seanzie is a lot.
Silly Rondo, if I was bad I would have killed you. It’s just WiFoM but you know it’s true.

And definitely not LC, who I have a high success rate against, one on one.

So keep leaning. BBL going to bed.
Why? Fluff my ego.
I’m fairly sure you can read me better than most people in this thread.

I also don’t have high confidence of maintaining a facade long term with you. Which would be my weakness rather than your strength, so fluff away.

Yes even with this

Okay but who comes into the thread IMMEDIATELY into a day proclaiming they aren't mafia because WIFOM? Doesn't sound like a towny thing to me

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:05 am I only got up to page 12.

But gotta go get ready for work, and will be 90% likely to be in the car when the poll ends unless the traffic gods smile on me, so i gotta vote now.

Gonna vote Scotty, he looks a bit flailing to me, of everyone, he's the only person who seriously pinged me. Of the others with votes, Michelle hasn't said enough for me to get a sense of her, and not voting Robyn. I'd rather give the host a day to wed out/replace no shows.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

what do you mean by flailing?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:58 pm I like Michelle’s recent posting

btw @Thunal33 could you elaborate on what you liked about Michelle's postings? I didnt feel the same way

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:40 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:00 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine
Cu cu cachoo
Could you indicate which of Thunal's read(s) you found half-baked?
Their vote for SVS came out of nowhere for me:
Spoiler: show

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:40 am
Spoiler: show
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:53 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:11 am @S~V~S do you feel it is on-brand or not (or neither) for @Long Con to express early suspicion of you?
Onnnnnnnnnn-braaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnd...... on-brand. On-brand. Towny. Wolfy. On-brand. Sassy. Classy. On-brand. Interesting. On-brand. Bon-rand?
@JaggedJimmyJay this is what I meant by "theatricality". I used to auto read this as bad~ weirdly enough, even in games where I was bad, and i had TMI re LC being town, I STILL read him as bad, which is why he's always an easy yeet for me when I'm bad. I kinda half believe it when I'm making the case.

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am
I am on record as not believing in contributing to such lists, or rankings. I'm not a fan and I don't generally post them. Those here who have played with me a lot can attest.

Similarly, I hate when people trust me. Stop naming me, people! And, really....I'm kind of freaked out that I'm on this site and not yet suspected. What's up with that? I don't think that has ever happened. At all on here, and rarely in prior communities.

That used to freak me out, too. Naming civs, like WTF. Extreme target painting. I still don't love rainbow lists, and prefer baddie hunting to townie hunting.

I'm used to it now.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:59 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:56 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:20 pm S~V~S is bad. She's humouring in there like nobody's business. Setting the scene, agreeable. If I were cruder and didn't know S~V~S, she's also sucking up to Jay, possibly pocketing.
Intriguing take- I feel like I have the unique benefit of having just wolfed with her and I haven’t seen anything specific about her that is throwing off my paranoia alarm. And I’m usually paranoid of her as of the last 3 games before I wolf’ed with her.

Now do me do me
OK, you're freaking me out here. I don't think you've EVER said anything like this to/about me. Not the last 3 games. EVERY. GAME. Every one. You think I'm bad.

What did you take away from wolfing with me that makes you say this?

Also gotta go get ready for work. Love my new job, hate the longer commute.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:04 am One last *?*, Bereft seems to be only addressing/alluding to Robyn and Jay, with the exception of his towny list, which was an answer to Jay, if I'm not mistaken.

I would not be able to read him if I tried, is this a normal thing for him? I don't find it to be AI, it just stuck out to me skimming his ISO.
Where are SVS's own reads? A lot of her posts feel like commentary and not actually taking stances. LC's post used to be read as auto bad and Scotty's freaking her out, but she didn't make actual reads off those when I feel like it would be natural for her to do.

@S~V~S
[VOTE: SVS] aubergine

Their loRab push was also not strong.

Even though through a lens, I actually independently find I agree with their reads of both SVS and LoRab: where are SVS’ reads, and why is LoRab so freaked out about being townread?
This is something I actually think is towny for Scotty. Why would wolf Scotty weaken his push by saying he agreed with my reads? I feel like wolf Scotty would just go after me rather than giving credit to my reads especially if one was right. Even if they were both wrong I think he'd either push me harder or pocket me by finding common ground as mafia.

I think this is at the very least a good point as the kids say

my hamster exploded, i’ve been crying in my room for 2 hours now. i was making some salad dressing in the kitchen with my pet hamster manny (i let him roam around). my sister and her friends were also in there doing something. i spilled a bottle of vinegar, so i left to get a towel and when i came back manny was drinking it. i didn’t think anything of it so i let him help me clean it up. all of the sudden manny starts acting really weird. he’s normally very full of energy but he was just sitting still. everyone gathered around him to try to figure out what was wrong. suddenly we hear a fizzling noise coming from inside manny and he started expanding. he let out a final squeak and bursted. bubbles and blood went everywhere. my sister and her friends started screaming and crying. i ran and got my dad and he cleaned manny’s limbs up. we looked in the pantry and apparently manny got into the baking soda and ate abunch of it. i think im traumatized now

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:44 pm I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing for your (JJJ) alignment though. It would be easy for mafia JJJ to townread me to try to pocket me, or push me if he thought he had a chance of getting me over. I think the former would be more likely.

this follow up gives me not good vibes though from the post that I do townread

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:16 pm @Thunal33, I don't recall you engaging with my read on you so far. I have held you consistently at null and even lent a local endorsement to a 2-vote wagon that appeared on you very quickly. What do you make of my read on you, and what has held you back from talking about that (or, if you have, please point the way)?
I didn't even know you still had me as null since it's been a bit since your most recent list. I thought it made sense before my SVS push since I didn't make a whole lot of different early reads or really AI content, but right now I am a little surprised you don't have me as at least a town lean. I think I've given enough content to show my alignment and I think my willingness to prod and engage with people is towny.

I don't think I've held back from talking about it though, I just don't have much to talk about because it's a null read. I thought it would change once I got more involved with the game.

I find this post somewhat towny in a towny entitlement type of way

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:59 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:51 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:40 pm I do feel decent about JJJ this game. He's not just putting in effort, he's putting in a lot of pro-town effort and geenrating info for town so that's enough for a town lean.
I think this is an awful way to judge J3
He didn't say anything in isolation that made me think he was obvious town but I think it's good enough grounds for a townlean on day 1. He hasn't said anything that pinged me.

I have my concerns about this being kinda vanilla, not that I do not agree with the sentiment

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:37 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:49 am
What's normally suspicious about your style?

I think this kind of comment about finding it weird you're too trusted is >rand mafia. A lot of townies are confident in their townieness even if they are suspected often, but it's easy for mafia to assume they're suspicious.
One one level, I have no idea. Maybe I'm just drawn that way? Some of it is how I approach the game and suspicion--some of it is meta, but a lot of it is noticing patterns and when those patterns are off. Which many see as a suspicious way to suspect people, apparently.

And, in a bigger way, your noting my discomfort in being trusted is an excellent example of why--on this particular site. It's a mafia culture thing. I learned mafia in a very different setting than that of most of the players on here. There are some players (SVS, LC in this game) I've been playing with for about 15 years--I think Wilgy for at least a decade. I may have forgotten someone else who is in this game (other than our wonderful host). The game we played then, on sites like LP and The Piano, was stylistically different--we developed our own mafia slang, almost all games were ones in which pretty much everyone has a power, info dumping was essentially always frowned on--at least past a certain point, when we all seemed to realize it's not nearly as much fun that way, and agreed that there just wouldn't be any any more. Where puzzles and hidden messages were everywhere. This site, in large part, grew out of that world--and merged it with other mafia communities.

The mafia game style of those other communities mostly became the prominent culture, with some aspects of my original realm staying around. like this color.

And I still play with my same style that I always have, even though I know that most around me have a different style--and will suspect me for my style. I'm good with that.

Although, I do twirl a lot less than I used to.

As for your suspicion, unless I'm misunderstanding ">rand mafia" (as I don't actually know what that means). It is very par for the course in the games of most of my mafia playing for civvies to not want to be publicly trust. I mean, I guess in a game where there is only 1 bad faction (and no apparent neutral or indy roles), it makes more sense for civs to not worry so much when trusted, but...I'm still more accustomed to games where such a structure (2 teams, one good one bad) is the exception and not the rule,

While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Okay, what you and JJJ said about not wanting to be townread makes sense, and that comment might be NAI coming from you. You said JJJ's play was too much work to be fake, how much experience do you have with him? Afaik he tries hard as both alignments and can't be effort cleared alone.

minor concern

why assume that comment is NAI coming from LoRab if you question how much experience they have with JJJ?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:18 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:17 pm From the little I have been here I think Rondo is towny + started off the day towny today

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:48 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:45 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 pm Yeah you know what. [VOTE: wilgy ] aubergine
why do u sr wigly independent of michelle
i kinda dont think he does with looking at context
Hey cape wanna tell me why Michelle is voting you?
found this question towards me towny

So Rondo, what made you want to tunnel me coming into today
The first 2 pages of d1 then the subsequent 6 pages after that.

so the first 8 pages?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:17 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:14 pm I had paranoia that maybe robyn was playing too towny to where it turned around to being just a deep wolf

i thought a couple of micro interactions they had with me were just straight towny though and it's a dumb reason to think anyone is a wolf anyways
no robyn is town

read carefully
that's what im saying in the post

From the little I have been here I think Rondo is towny + started off the day towny today

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:48 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:45 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 pm Yeah you know what. [VOTE: wilgy ] aubergine
why do u sr wigly independent of michelle
i kinda dont think he does with looking at context
Hey cape wanna tell me why Michelle is voting you?

found this question towards me towny

So Rondo, what made you want to tunnel me coming into today

I had paranoia that maybe robyn was playing too towny to where it turned around to being just a deep wolf

i thought a couple of micro interactions they had with me were just straight towny though and it's a dumb reason to think anyone is a wolf anyways

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:58 pm Thunal wolf if Seanzie town

what made you have this thought about a 0 poster?

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