Ted Lasso Mafia - game over!

[robyn]

we'll just keep that one under raps

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thank you. I see your points, and respect them. Yet I feel like keeping my vote on SVS

I'm consider it. My time is quite restricted, but I will try to dive into her posts. Scotty made the valid point earlier (as did you just now) that I am pretty unaware of where she stands in this game apart from suspecting Scotty -- and even that wasn't clearly stated beyond "Scotty is doing something unusual for Scotty".

[robyn]

wraps*

fucking autocorrect

[DarlingMonroe]

I like DarlingMonroe again.

[Michelle]

On that note, @DarlingMonroe:

If you find it impossible to fully catch up, because the thread has grown too large, then I will make the following suggestion. Don't. I still very much want you to make posts, but if time only allows you to choose between 1) trying and failing to catch up, or 2) just entering the thread and playing from the current page --> please choose #2. Fully catching up is not always necessary to play the game, and you may be better off just jumping in fresh.

If you do have time to fully catch up AND get involved before we run out of Daylight (only four hours), then go ahead.

I don't think Jay makes this post as mafia

[Michelle]

This game started in a moment when my free time doesn't really exist.
I would like to have a solid town read to sheep it.
Who should I sheep Jay?

My top town read is probably Bereft. Do you have any town reads, even if uncertain?

I start to think you are good and I will not question the read until D3 if I am alive

[DrWilgy]

Lorab seems towny enough. Produced reads and I'm having a hard time in finding ulterior motive behind them. Wouldn't yeet.

[Michelle]

Are the Seanzie votes strickly due to inactivity?

If so, why Seanzie over RondoDimBuckle and ts account also with 0 post....?

rondo's better at the game, is the least offensive answer i think

and what about ts account?

that's a ladd alt who i invited

Oh, if that's true he can't post today.

[Michelle]

Adding Wilgy to TRs because he is solving.

[fingersplints]

2 hours left of day. The question was asked privately, but I’ll also answer publicly in case anyone else was wondering. Nights will be closed. Open nights fit more with some of the more traditional aspects of this game, but it’s busy time for a lot of us and I think most could use the break from reading/posting!

While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Thought of him while writing this game. Hope he is doing well! Good guy




That is all.

[Michelle]

Eh I read some but it seems not enough.

[Michelle]

oh fuck, bereft said he’d specifically tr that kind of post, in his post about svs being town

blah, don’t tr it bereft

Oh I see.

Yeah no, I'd never tr that post coming from you. Advanced players get more advanced methods ... or sometimes not.

Can you define 'advanced players' ?

[DarlingMonroe]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

[Cape90]

cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

[DarlingMonroe]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

They are also the players with less than 30 posts. Everyone else with more posts than 30 has voted.

SVS still my biggest ping.

[robyn]

cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

why do u think that was

[DarlingMonroe]

cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

[DarlingMonroe]

cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

why do u think that was

why was it

[Cape90]

Good morning!

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt

[Cape90]

cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

why do u think that was

i think i was having a towny wolf game to be fair

I wouldn't know otherwise

[robyn]

cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

why do u think that was

why was it

[Michelle]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

[Michelle]

Good morning!

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

[Cape90]

I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Hmm

I don't like this

I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!

i will be hoenst

when i was throwing around votes, i thought about voting a 0 poster as it felt correct to me given game state at the time + i wasn't scumreading scotty at the time i was thinking this

[DarlingMonroe]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

[Cape90]

Good morning!

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

thanks

[DarlingMonroe]

I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Hmm

I don't like this

I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!

i will be hoenst

when i was throwing around votes, i thought about voting a 0 poster as it felt correct to me given game state at the time + i wasn't scumreading scotty at the time i was thinking this

why do u scumread scotty?

are you wolf again? back-to-back?

[Cape90]

scotty, why is lying scummy?

I think it’s contextual- in your case, you wanted to see ‘how I responded under pressure’ when I already had a healthy vote lead and was under pressure. That was a place that didn’t make sense for you be lying.

I think another pertinent question: why is lying towny?

things dont have to be towny in order for them not to be scummy

[Scotty]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

When did you play with a scum Long Con?

[Michelle]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

How many games you played with LC?

[Scotty]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

How many games you played with LC?

Jinx


But really though, I think….this might be a scumslip
Long Con was town in DM’s only game on this site. This could legit be a slip that she is in BTSC with LC and had a perspective slip

[Cape90]

I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Hmm

I don't like this

I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!

i will be hoenst

when i was throwing around votes, i thought about voting a 0 poster as it felt correct to me given game state at the time + i wasn't scumreading scotty at the time i was thinking this

why do u scumread scotty?

are you wolf again? back-to-back?

I have explained in great detail my suspicion on Scotty

Jay is such a high poster, and with not much filler, that I think inherently he tends to be town voice. Even if he’s not town lol

I think I’m slightly suspicious that I am his top town read, but that’s a me problem. I’m down to listen to his scum reads however

This also just... doesn't read correctly to me

I will explain in more detail later as i go to bowling very soon + I am pretty tired at the same time

The read here on JJJ is really kind of feels like you are just discrediting any towniness that JJJ might have by just saying this

The second part of the post is a kind of mafia tell to where a player goes like "okay but why am i ur top town, you shouldn't have me as your top town, that would look really bad for you down the line tee hee" okay i am exaggerating and putting it in bad faith, but sometimes mafia just have the intrusive thought to question whatever top townread they get instead of letting it go and then whenever someone brings up an argument saying this, they just go "oh but i would just accept the townread if i was mafia guys"

Lorab isn’t doing anything so far to make me townread her, and frankly is rather blendy in her entrance posts.

Though I don’t remember how LoRab operates. It’s been a while

meh I can say the same thing about SVS tho too

Like I’m not even sure she made a read when she was weirded out by me in her recent post.

Ima figure her out

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

OKay but it is seriously Scotty, he isn't comfy at all and I am starting to sus him way more then SVS

The "ima figure her out" thing was worded questionably here IMO

Also I can't explain why but I don't really like the second sentence here about assuming stuff about SVS calling Scotty weird there

Abigail’s entrance is thoroughly null.

To be fair, she herself has said she feels nothing

???

I also just like found this jump to defense on Abigail to be weird. Like I assumed that comment didn't mean that at all

He doesn't feel right, like i know last time i played with scotty basically pocketing him that i was looking through a scum lens, but he is just like posting a lot of weird things and has pointed out blendy beginnings for some reason as if that's totally Alignment indicative

If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.

I think there’s probably a difference in approach since she seems to inference the olde ways, but actively is pushing back against people townreading her. It’s like she *knows* she isn’t doing anything towny, and can’t help but acknowledge it

this seems extremely ungenerous too as it was posted pretty early into the game

I’ve turned around on Cape- even tho he doesn’t have a lot of posts, what posts he has made are actual reads. Obviously I would like him to expand on them, but he’s making definitive reads

Thunal on the surface looks fine with their reads, if not making reads that come off as half baked. And no one wants a half baked pie, except maybe the stray cat that hangs out on my patio after dark. He’ll eat anything.
Scumlean

the only thing u said about me was that my entrance was the most blendy and that hardly counts as a read that warrants you declaring you turned around on me.

He doesn't feel right, like i know last time i played with scotty basically pocketing him that i was looking through a scum lens, but he is just like posting a lot of weird things and has pointed out blendy beginnings for some reason as if that's totally Alignment indicative

If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.

I think there’s probably a difference in approach since she seems to inference the olde ways, but actively is pushing back against people townreading her. It’s like she *knows* she isn’t doing anything towny, and can’t help but acknowledge it

this seems extremely ungenerous too as it was posted pretty early into the game

In every D1, being blendy is an instant red flag for me. I expect town in most contexts to make declarative and bold reads.

Posting weird things is a quirk of mine. I’ve been called ‘awkward’ and ‘stilted’ and even ‘cringey’. Which is fine, people need to practice their adjectives. I can remember distinctly in both alignments where I was ‘caught’ as such. One I was very town. One I was very not town. So that is non alignment indicative.

In this case, I’m not really holding back on my thoughts, and I can’t help if you don’t agree with my conclusions

i could see it being towny in the "putting out content to kickstart the game" kind of sense, but to me, it also just reads as kinda a lame cop out read, like scum can have good openings

Yeah I have already said my piece

Haven't caught up yet so we will see hoe i feel when i do that but have a look for yourself and come up with your own conclusions

[Scotty]

[VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

[Cape90]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

Long Con was town in Severance so you couldn't be talking about that

[Scotty]

So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

Long Con was town in Severance so you couldn't be talking about that

I’ve never used that emoji but it seems fitting

[Cape90]

Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

Why did you choose these names? They seem random

Scotty Thunal were in the lead 3-2 so I inquired why.

Scotty plus their wagon makes up the final list.

thanks

[Cape90]

wait fuck scotty might be town but i can’t explain this

the reason is straight awful but it might be right

actually ignore me

Here's a big reason why I don't agree with the robyn sus btw. They're playing unfiltered imo, and have sequences like this that are a lot easier to actually think of than to fake all the steps as a wolf.

Yeah I found that sequence good, but kinda frustrating at the same time

[Cape90]

robyn

if i had found u as town would i be a confident tr btw?

or do u just respect my wolfgame that much

my answer to this question would always be no so I am not sure why you are asking this

I do generally think your posts are good, but they haven't leapt out at me as really towny like Bereft's recently have honestly. I think around the point when you started questioning my thunal vote while also being on thunal yourself was pretty towny though, and yes all of those listed are in order.

some people would say yes

understandable, and what do you think about my constant lying so far?

Mostly NAI, felt okay about the lying to thunal thing because it felt bait-y

When did they lie to me?

they kept claiming they were not voting you when they were voting you

remember?

[DrWilgy]

Posterity

Spoiler: show

Poll runs till Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


‪☆Princess Abigail☆‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Bereft‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Cape90‬
1
8%
Voters: Michelle
‪DarlingMonroe‬
1
8%
Voters: Scotty
‪DrWilgy‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪JaggedJimmyJay‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Long Con‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪LoRab‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Michelle‬
1
8%
Voters: Thunal33
‪robyn‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪RondoDimBuckle‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪Scotty‬
3
23%
Voters: S~V~S, Cape90, ☆Princess Abigail☆
‪Seanzie‬
3
23%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, robyn, Bereft
‪S~V~S‬
1
8%
Voters: DarlingMonroe
‪Thunal33‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
‪ts account‬
0
No votes
Voters: None
If you're comfortable while you're doing it, you're probably doing it wrong. (Host/mod/non)
3
23%
Voters: Roxy, Sloonei, fingersplints

[Cape90]

I don't think Scotty/Cape are teamed anymore btw, and even when I made the read I knew it was low probability. I just nailed a w/w pair from d1 distancing in my last town game so I got excited when I had the thought.

@Thunal33, I had the same thought that Cape's quick flurry of anti-Scotty propaganda might be more about getting out of trouble than actually suspecting Scotty. However, he made some points I thought were legitimately compelling too.

I think subscribing to Thunal's logic is silly, like why would I not only feel the need to get pressure off myself but also bus at the same time? Like to me that's a pretty bad mafia play unless I was gonna play exactly like ilario or something from my mafia team of Severance that u hosted. But you also said you dont in like another post. Generally I am anti bus early on, like I would vaguely sus my maf partners verbally if they were sussing me and if the thread direction was really going that way, then i might succumb. Like I didnt have a good voting record in my recent scum game here.

I felt kinda strange about ur dynamic with me/Scotty and how hard you shifted into me all of the sudden being scum from your light town reads. Felt like you were building specifically scumreads off consensus

I think Cape straight up calling my logic silly is unpairing with Scotty. It's easier to be dismissive when you know it's wrong.

like in that post i kinda talked myself into being like "okay i only find this silly because of self meta, like it really isn't silly otherwise

and it's not like u have played many games with me, not entirely sure if we have every directly played tbh

[Cape90]

Spoiler: show

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

Good morning!

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

This felt a bit like going through the motions, especially the pocketing attempt.

I made my initial townread on Michelle just because JJJ made some comment saying Michelle was null (or something like that) when she had like 3 posts, so i chimed in with the closest thing i had to a read on Michelle

You see, I associate Michelle with noticing certain wording things when she is town, and when I saw

When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

this, I found it kinda towny just because of that, like she is a meticulous reader who will notice these things.

PS. I said the whole I am pocketing her thing as a sort of joke, I didn't feel one way or the other about her brief return the top of page 14 but i know she's returned since but im not up to there yet

[Cape90]

okay serious question, did u enjoy playing mafia today? or was it more grindy than anything

I mostly enjoyed it. Day 1 is my favorite day of the game.

i like the late game where it comes down to calculation instead of observation and judgement calls. i think that’s why i also prefer the mafia alignment, i feel like it’s grindy and calculation based where i don’t have to be so confused

d1 is nice big i post a lot to imitate/fake influence which i don't have or want really

blah

assuming i’m town what could i do better here fypov?

Assuming you’re town, who would be your top vote atm? In my read back, I don’t really know who you suspect except me (in a fake case)

i don’t know, i’d kill a 0 poster like what jjj is doing and i’d actively choose to save you. it’s what i would do by simple game theory and i can send you an example if you want (although you convinced me against yeeting seanzie because he’d replace out in rondo’s game i believe, and i tried to save you there). i find it hard to make confident reads d1. so i will freely and actively sheep on d1. i do independently solve as you know but like with bereft and jjj here i feel outright redundant for the most part and all of the things i would do they’re beating me to. blah i’m finding it hard to play this game in a way that’s original and where my own voice is heard and seen. but i’m also relying on the fact people know i’m a very good wolf and can make up original in depth reads in hard gamestates on d1 to like “let me play like this”

also to your lying question, i lie frequently as town and scum, i understand why it looks wrong. but i don’t believe that blatantly adding excess pressure on a slot d1 is scummy if you mentally model for a player of my range

as i type this i essentially understand why you wolf read me completely. but the main issue with that is that i’m not limp scum, which is like the only thing that should give me space. i’m the opposite as most players here are familiar with and i’m surprised you like don’t see that? but i also can’t blame you, cause by an objective measurement i would suspect me rn if i was new to mafia

just given where you have claimed to be at in the game, why would you vote a 0 poster over me?

[Scotty]

Ok I gotta go and have an appointment before eod

Current working theory is DM and LC are mafia.
Can throw SVS in there too, though DM’s push on SVS would be almost clearing of SVS if DM flips bad. 4th can be…LoRab. I could be wrong on the latter, with 3 missingno’s. TBD

If I still go over, it’s been real. Cape needs to get off his high horse but I still feel like he is in a genuine tunnel and not just pushing me for shits. Please be easy on him.
Thunal has been quite waffly on me all game, which makes me want to just townread them. It would be easier to just jump on my wagon, but I feel like they’re really considering if my actions/reads have been forced or whatever. Making a town.
Princess Abigail I have already talked about- town.

JJJ can be resolved in a couple days. Again, if he doesn’t have a pelt by D3, and he’s still alive, get rid of him. Please.

Others:
Bereft and Robyn are either both town or one is fooling the other. I could be convinced that one is pocketing the other. I do not townread bereft yet. I’m a little biased but I feel like he’s been blunt to a point regarding me.

Wilgy has made some questionable impressions in the thread- I feel like he’s picking the wagons, making one minor point about them, and then making broad reads based on it. It doesn’t feel like actual solving yet. Prime candidate for info tonite tho.

Michelle’s entrance into the game is…fine. I guess. Not much presence. prob town.

[robyn]

just given where you have claimed to be at in the game, why would you vote a 0 poster over me?

because i don't explicitly suspect you?????

i just haven't found you as town and that is scummy in and of itself

[Scotty]

Am I the only one seeing DM’s slip? Am I just looking into the tea leaves? Someone tell me I’m wrong here

[Cape90]

wait fuck scotty might be town but i can’t explain this

the reason is straight awful but it might be right

actually ignore me

Here's a big reason why I don't agree with the robyn sus btw. They're playing unfiltered imo, and have sequences like this that are a lot easier to actually think of than to fake all the steps as a wolf.

Eh. If we’re looking at filtered v unfiltered as an indicator of alignment, then sure. But I don’t think it’s that difficult to have a throughline as wolf

But of the posts you just quoted, Robyn, in summary, posted:
-vague town read for vague reasons
-secret reason
-nm, take it back because [reasons]

That series of posts literally said nothing. I still don’t know who Robyn suspects or why

nobody rn

read last post

also do you normally find abbie confidently town d1?

i do agree with you that those posts aren’t a good reason to tr me, especially when my conversation with jjj and bereft earlier i literally said i was playing filtered lol

i just can’t think of a single decent reason to tr me rn

but you also

never mind

[Scotty]

Like I know I’m probably not one to talk since I’ve been leading wagon all day, but

[Cape90]

just given where you have claimed to be at in the game, why would you vote a 0 poster over me?

because i don't explicitly suspect you?????

i just haven't found you as town and that is scummy in and of itself

that still looks like it makes me voteable

[robyn]

just given where you have claimed to be at in the game, why would you vote a 0 poster over me?

because i don't explicitly suspect you?????

i just haven't found you as town and that is scummy in and of itself

that still looks like it makes me voteable

i would never kill u day 1 unless i had a strong sr, simply because like myself you're an easy mischop, i've actively saved u in multiple games so like. it's just against the game theory i'm playing at

i'm very much confused by the current gamestate i should add, it's a bit hard to make concrete reads

[robyn]

Am I the only one seeing DM’s slip? Am I just looking into the tea leaves? Someone tell me I’m wrong here

that feels more like alt slippage rather than scumslip?

like it can be but also idk