The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:16 pm Who is alien?

Is it me?

Is it Carotenoid?

Is it protocultures?

Is it Alison?

We're never getting there on you so no point.

Carot has felt very pure but Nutella was right about her EOD yesterday and opening here. I had the exact same thought.

I don't know what Proto's range is but I don't know if legit anyone has what he's done in his mafia range.

Alison is alien or we lose basically.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:13 pm im gonna take a long ass break after this

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:01 pm This last 2 weeks have been so bad irl and I've been like doing my best here and sort of trying to use mafia to take my mind off things and im just having a full meltdown no omg im sorry

protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:59 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:56 pm proto wild as hell

good wild or bad wild?

protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:43 pm I flip on Alison actuallly.

Am I allowed to post extracts from Alisons MU games?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:38 pmUgh

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:30 pm It's ok epi. I've been locked in on alison since yesterday. And I'm now pretty convinced mac is her partner

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:34 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:50 am

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:29 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:10 pm my sole mission is this game is to bury rej and i must be alive D2 to see this through

I am back.
I see Hally got killed and I saw this weird post. I was on her shotlist and idk how. I wish things had ended differently.

Seems like a simple frame kill to me. I am not interpreting much into the night kill but I am really curious about what others have to say about it.

I am at work but once I read all opinions about the NK, I might get a fresh and super cool PoE!

Hally was a widely townread player, what makes you jump to "frame kill" as opposed to "this player was killed because they were widely townread"?

Frame kill, because Hally suspected me before she said Sayonara, tho one could think it would be profitable for me to kill people that suspect me if I were scum, but nah
I am bashed by everyone anyway.

This is how they welcome back Rej

I am a Bunker and if anyone wanna know who I protected last night, it was Epi

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:34 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:43 am

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:34 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:50 am

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:29 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:10 pm my sole mission is this game is to bury rej and i must be alive D2 to see this through

I am back.
I see Hally got killed and I saw this weird post. I was on her shotlist and idk how. I wish things had ended differently.

Seems like a simple frame kill to me. I am not interpreting much into the night kill but I am really curious about what others have to say about it.

I am at work but once I read all opinions about the NK, I might get a fresh and super cool PoE!

Hally was a widely townread player, what makes you jump to "frame kill" as opposed to "this player was killed because they were widely townread"?

Frame kill, because Hally suspected me before she said Sayonara, tho one could think it would be profitable for me to kill people that suspect me if I were scum, but nah
I am bashed by everyone anyway.

This is how they welcome back Rej

I am a Bunker and if anyone wanna know who I protected last night, it was Epi

Why did you use a bunker save at all?

Why did you think Epi would be an alien target?

Did you read the arguments for/against using bunker saves on non-nutella people?

Where did you land on those arguments?

Do you think you made yourself a higher laser target for Day 2 because you now only have 3 bunker saves remaining?

It is easy why I used a shot, I suspected Epi to be a mafia target this NP and I thought I wouldn't make it far, also if I would had blocked the kill surprisingly people would clear me. So I gambled. Like my only chance.
Also I didn't worry much when I saw that the Soneji flip, so I thought it was okay.

Since I wanted to play the game and since I try to avoid two things:
Getting shot by mafia and getting lynched.
Tho I have an asswork to do and it is hard to avoid latter one...


[mention]Epignosis[/mention] yo I listened to your music on bandcamp and it is dope, will you move me out of your PoE? like lock me town?

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:21 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:21 am [VOTE: Rej] aubergine

Not towny Rej. Where is my towny Rej? Not here, cause Rej is not town.

that vote is wasted on my slot, rather vote Mac or your new fresh suspect Alison, also I don't feel threatened, I am still catching up

you always keep on saying "not towny" "not towny"...can you go into depth? if you are so sure you can already give me a micro/macro read or even two

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:56 am I think a POE like this is a solid starting point;

Alison
Carotenoid
Protocultures
Dunya
Rej

With Epignosis as a swing for Dunya if that's a miss. If Dyslexicon is mafia we probably never get there if Hally is town which is my most confident read and also I love Dizzy so fuck it.

I feel like all combos inside this are viable though I expect some immediate "wtf no this person can't be w with this person" type things. Don't hold back.

This post feels pretty pure to me and is a HUGE step up in terms of post quality than before. Could be wolf!Mac stepping up because he's feeling the pressure after his teammate died, but given that he had a hand in Soneji's death, I don't buy my own theory.

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:43 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:36 am

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:32 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:29 am

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:28 am I feel this one sounds like desperate try to shade Epi.
My D1 reads on Epi were often on point and my gut tells me Epi is town and that Mac!alien throws a desperate shade.

Hi, Rej. Are you scum? Yes/no. I feel yes, but you can talk me into a no.

I am not scum. I am the towniest towny and I am optimistic.

What are you optimistic about?

The outcome of this DP, like us!bunkers doing a good job, or nutella!laser in coherence with us!town

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:45 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:36 am

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:32 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:29 am

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:28 am I feel this one sounds like desperate try to shade Epi.
My D1 reads on Epi were often on point and my gut tells me Epi is town and that Mac!alien throws a desperate shade.

Hi, Rej. Are you scum? Yes/no. I feel yes, but you can talk me into a no.

I am not scum. I am the towniest towny and I am optimistic.

What are you optimistic about?

Oh btw, maybe you should know that Dragomir and me come from the same forum. Sometimes we read each other correct D1, even if one of us scum and the other is town.
I wouldnt be optimistic if someone else would be the lynchee. Lmao.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:27 am Drago doesnt like Spacemovies = bad

Dunya, Alison and Tutu are town GTH, nice energy.
Not excluding the possibility that a wolf is coordinating the mechtalk with others.

Tho nothing else pinged me for now. I am at work, will be properly active later on.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:19 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:41 am Tho thinking about it now, if one or more of the 4 scummiest players are town, mafia won't try to kill Nutella since it'd be futile. So I can see a benefit there for town reads.

How I see it happening is that mafia might go after the assigned "protectors" or someone outside of the reach, if an assigned protector gets killed then we have to fill that slot, ergo it is possible that we stick in a loop and yes we have to hope our PoE is right.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:30 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:27 am Drago doesnt like Spacemovies = bad

Dunya, Alison and Tutu are town GTH, nice energy.
Not excluding the possibility that a wolf is coordinating the mechtalk with others.

Tho nothing else pinged me for now. I am at work, will be properly active later on.

Hmmm

I'm making a note for later of stuffing Alison with 1 post between me and tutu and calling out nice energy. Something pingy about this entrance.

Well her entrance was "agressive" not passive, it pinged me and from a GTH perspective there wasn't anything negative I felt there.

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:28 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:20 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:18 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:05 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:04 pm I gotta admit, I much prefer hunting for scum the good old fashioned way than mechanical play, every damn time.

normally yes but I feel like I need a hefty amount of experience with epi to be able to tell if his play up til now is indicative of town or scum

But that's not your task, is it? That's nutella's burden.

I don't see any reason you are a civilian. You are acting like you're my judge. You're not. nutella is. And she has the requisite experience with me that you bemoan lacking.

Omg you are so full of shit lol. You are basically saying "town don't need to town". Get rekt. SHoot this egg.

I feel this one sounds like desperate try to shade Epi.
My D1 reads on Epi were often on point and my gut tells me Epi is town and that Mac!alien throws a desperate shade.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:57 pm okay. I think I was pretty much always planning to shoot Alison today, as she fits in basically all the possible worlds I see. I'm still having a tough time getting there on Mac but the rest of you see it so at some point I need to put my trust in you guys. I suppose it can be Alison - Mac. Alison - Carot would be impressive but plausible. Carot - Mac.... I don't really see it. It would take some extreme convincing to show me a proto world.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:40 pm Look, I'll go deeper if requested, but I am fine calling Carotenoid a civilian here.

you are still on Mac is Alien though, right?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:20 pm Alright I did a cmd+f "Soneji" through the ISO's to see the interactions

tutuu
#636 Put Soneji in her alien group (8 persons total, but saying that protocultures and me should live)
#664 Defends her plan because Soneji called it TWTBAW. Could go either way so hmn

Not much. I still think tutuu is town.

TonyStarkPrime
#657 and #658 suspicion on Soneji (but it’s « kinda », « sort of »), puts Soneji at bottom of PoE at #660
He's still at the bottom of PoE at #731, says to shoot him or Rej at #770
Yes to Soneji pinged in scum chat in #794, #814 is a [hmmn emoji] to Soneji's defense
#834 feels on the verge of TMI knowing I’m town but I’m probably just paranoid

Alright maybe TonyStarkPrime can be town for the moment. I don’t see any reason for him to be so harsh on a teammate that's like a universal null.

Rej
Softish tackle at #680 and #682 scum question mark.

Could be paired with Soneji.

Protocultures
In #140 he says « Soneji – null to very very light town for having looked into strategies as could have done it for either alignment » which is ??????????????? because I don’t think there was anything relevant in Soneji’s first post. Go check it, at this point the only post he made is #38 and I don’t think it qualifies as « having looked into strategies »
Then on #629 it becomes « Soneji – one post, lets hope they post more or get mod killed. »
Which is. ?????? considering the first read on him. Slip? Like Soneji might have posted some strat’ in scum chat.
And then there’s the EoD defending Soneji but I kinda did it too so I don’t know what to think about that. #826 is pretty ???? It feels a bit like trying too much.

This is worrying, especially the #140 bit, I'd like to know what you think about it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
#647 Opposition to Soneji’s strategy and follow up at 649.

I think it's more townish because their strategy are diametrically opposed but otherwise, not much.

Long Con
0 mention of Soneji.

Epignosis
#754 mentions being on Soneji’s « **** list » and asks for reason why he’s alien to anyone scum reading him.

Could go either way.

dunya
#36asks him if he has alien since she thought it wasn’t his first game and « No bad advice pls if you're a cheeky alien ;p » It would be fun if they're teammates but *shrug*
Puts him in lukewarm water and undecided in #66 and #162

Not much, could go either way.

Dyslexicon
#241 Puts Soneji in null (Soneji - No comment.)

Not much, could go either way.

MacDougall
Oh wow he posted a LOT more than I thought O_O

#467 quotes dunya « ;p » post thinking it's pro-town. Actually it's not really related to Soneji.
#507 Soneji is yellow in the readlist and #4 alien in the order
Prods Rej on #684 to ask if the question marks (Soneji and me) are summates
I wanna say it's not w/w/w.
#792 calls my strange timing with Soneji
Then there’s some posts where he seems okay with shooting Soneji, but he was like next on the list so it could be w/w.

I feel like he could be w/w with Soneji but not w/w/w with Soneji and Rej. So I feel conflicted.

Alison
#359 calls Soneji null

IN SUMMARY:

• Soneji was pretty much a null/no reaction for everyone, except to TonyStarkPrime and to a certain extent MacDougall (yellow, but in the bottom 4) and Rej (fifth scum of the list with a ?)
• The only person that has never mentionned Soneji at all is Long Con.
• protocultures, dunya, Dyslexicon & Alison have clearly stated a null read on him
• I think Rej-MacDougall-Soneji is not w/w/w, Rej-Soneji and MacDougall-Soneji both having the potential of being w/w
• NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME gets a tiny +1 v for the mech talk opposition with Soneji
• I think that the most worrying interaction with Soneji is protocultures.

CONCLUSION
why did i do that it took so long ugh

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:22 am I read the 7 pages that magically appeared while I was sleeping and euh. I feel like my reads haven't really changed and I'm not too sure what to think about that.

@Alison, why go to such extent for Dyslexicon meta, but not with Epignosis meta?
Why did you suspect Dragomir in the first place?
You said « dyslexicon's "everyone is town or null except drago" readslist still reeks of bussing to me and I think there's a significant chance that they're partners together », now that you think that Dyslexicon is town, how does it impact your read of Dragomir-MacDougall?

MacDougall is chaos, Rej, Soneji and bimbo are still missing in action...

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:19 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:54 pm Hmn okay so first reaction is maybe Rej isn't scum after all, I remember a Soneji scumread, but then turns out it's pretty soft #680, and then

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:46 pm My PoE is:

Scum:
Mac
Dunya
NANOOK
Dizzy
Soneji(?)

Town:
TSP
Epi
proto
Alison
Carot(?)

I feel sure on these for now, I will go to sleep now, maybe I am here for more 15 mins or so, I haven't sorted the other 3 btw

Question mark scum read so hmmmn they might be w/w.

Yeah that wasn't great.

Soneji wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:57 am

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:09 am hyijifhinrjdfihbrenjdfhedsi aaaaaaaah multiquote button didn't work bierjnnfierhehuj
*take a deep breathe* it's gonna be okay
anyway

TonyStarkPrime's plan seems to be the best so far, but it's kinda risky to the not-poe-people past n1, if that makes sense. So I propose that we kinda flip it around:

- On odd nights, two top townreads (or like one top townread + 2 midlytownread that can't all be wolves together) protect nutella. And then we could do something like bottom of POE protect the people protecting nutella and all the others only self-protect if they feel the need to.

- On even nights, bottom of POE protect nutella. The rest of the players only self-protect if they feel the need to.

That way, the protection shots are used more horizontally and avoids that town ends up with no shots at the end. Also I feel like unless we specifically coordinate something specific in the thread, bunker shots should only be used on their own slot.

The odd night plan is pretty solid, but the even night is wack. You need to have confidence in there being two town protects in there on even nights. On odd nights needing just one you have more leeway to include the PoE.

Soneji wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:57 am Bad

Epi
TSP
Alison
Rej
Drago/Mac

Soneji wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:10 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:01 pm Hmn nutella it's kinda scary that you approach this by "if I shoot Soneji and he flips town" tbh

Don't think shading the mod confirmed player is one's best approach

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:13 pm tbh I really don't know who the last pair is

I don't see a world without Alison being an alien tho

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:42 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:25 pm also I've gotta go. basically, here's what looks right.

everyone with two saves flips a coin. On heads, they protect nutella. On tails, they self protect.

Epi flips two coins. On two heads, he self protects. Else, he protects nutella.

This allows for wins with perfect shots about 75 percent of the time regardless of alien strategy, which is the absolute maximum a plan like this can get.

let's please do this

@Epignosis
@protocultures
@Alison
@Carotenoid
@MacDougall

protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:12 am Can't decide between Alison and Carotenoid.
It's almost always Mac plus one to me.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:49 am I'm caught up. I read the posts over dinner and am typing my response post at the computer so I don't have the quotes handy, but:

- proto, you should realize that the Carot notes stuff and the laser beam gifs are NAI. I don't know why you're townreading her based off it when there's plenty of solid evidence that she's scum.

- Epi, you should be re-evaluating your read on me. We do not have many mislynches left (in fact, I think we don't have any mislynches left), so stop your death tunnel on me and re-evaluate. Carot was defending Mac all day because of a couple of interactions he had with Rej on Day 1, which makes no sense since an entire game has occurred between then and now, and those interactions are easily fakeable. Realize that when there are this little townies left, wolves are going to try to defend and fake-clear each other to get nutella to shoot wrongly, because they know that they win if that happens.

I think the team is most likely Carot/Mac with a small chance (5%~, maybe?) of Carot/Proto and I was pocketed by Proto so the wolf team can play both sides. I think Occam's Razor says Carot/Mac is just the answer and it's as simple as that. Epi is clear (even if you ignore the nutella protection because TSP protected nutella, he still has a meta clear from the Hally kill and Rej spewed him town by claiming a protect on him), so the only possibility left is Proto/Mac which is possible in theory but I'll eat my hat if that's the team in reality.

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:24 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:22 pm can we please look at Mac?

I tried.

conclusion was?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:54 pm epi

just drop this line please

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm nutella just say something so I can reevaluate copypasta you

I'm never shooting any of epi, mac, or proto today

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:22 pm can we please look at Mac?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:01 pm @Epignosis what is the most compelling reason to believe Carotenoid is town?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:20 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:00 pm Ok so

Alison save Mac

Mac save TSP

TSP save Carotenoid

Carotenoid save Proto

Proto save Epi

Epi save Nutella

@nutella please confirm this for all

If this plan is bad, now is a great time to start saying something...

Yes, please do what it says in the quote everyone

@Alison
@MacDougall
@TonyStarkPrime
@Carotenoid
@Epignosis

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:29 pm re Carotenoid, I have found some mistakes in math/mech (1.8% example and I saved Epi, Epi and Carotenoid are cleared town). Both are advantageous mistakes to make as mafia. I decided to give them the benefit of doubt because I dont know for sure that Carotenoid is super math/mech person so dont assume they cant make mistakes. I mean, I made a math/mech error on day 0. Carotenoid pointed it out. I found that towny.

Their manuiscript notes on their mech solve. Its like super try hard to do as mafia. Its not just notes. The paper is folded and creased. It looks genuinely like it was in a pocket all day. It isnt neat. It doesnt look like it was ever intended for others to see. I accept the english over french in the notes. The other intepretation is they did the solve as mafia and used it as evidence of town - which would be pretty amusing. I cant follow the notes so this could very well be the case.

Like, I think the team is TSP/Mac probably.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:12 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:09 am I'm just going to consider Epi mechanically cleared for now unless someone claims a save on nutella, since I think any team with Epi in it just shoots nutella owing to the decision to have a protection chain where Epi was her only defender.

If proto is town (which is the most likely scenario), the teams are Carot/TSP, Carot/Mac or Mac/TSP. The Carot thing is most likely to me but I guess we're at the point in the game where I should be tinfoiling Mac/TSP.

@TSP yes I haven't done any catch up yet, they're a pain to do on phone, give me a bit

you literally responded to a post where we were talking about this

I'm sorry? Did you claim a save on nutella and I missed it?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:06 am we might dump a shot into Mac then but apparently the entire thread lost track of the fact that alison skipped night five so maybe not.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:01 am is this the first time alison has posted and we all just collectively forgot to think about that

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:08 am mac/alison/rej/soneji was looking like a very strong option day 2 and we completely stopped pursuing it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:59 am If I'm partners with Mac we shoot Alison. I do everything I can to paint myself w/w with Carot. Mac wins.
If I'm partners with Carot we shoot Alison. I do everything I can to paint myself w/w with Mac. Carot might win but it's a little closer.

Neither of these plans involve anything close to claiming a fake action that does nothing but put arbitrary suspicion on Epi.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:01 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot

To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.

Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.

Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol

i saved nutella.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:20 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:00 pm Ok so

Alison save Mac

Mac save TSP

TSP save Carotenoid

Carotenoid save Proto

Proto save Epi

Epi save Nutella

@nutella please confirm this for all

If this plan is bad, now is a great time to start saying something...

Yes, please do what it says in the quote everyone

@Alison
@MacDougall
@TonyStarkPrime
@Carotenoid
@Epignosis

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:13 pm Epi will be out of saves, something to consider. I think this is fine though.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:13 pm Aliens pretty much always no shoot and I did the calculations and that ensures us day 8 if we misshoot tomorrow.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:14 pm Confirming this works.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:00 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:36 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:33 am You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.

We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.

You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.

I mean if you shoot epi or me, you might get some grief ngl.

another clear point for epi/proto

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:59 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.

Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.

Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.

We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.

3 things.

okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.

second point is inferred (Epi as mafia)

yeah it's what made me change my mind, but I've seen Epi be a pretty aggressive wolf. Epi as wolf also overuses the "I never bus" line when he's just bussed, the first point can be seen in that fashion, but really like. I don't think so.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:52 pm If he didn't even save night one and was being clever anyways then I see super no reason to clear him.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:28 pm I did the equivalent of cfding onto an alien day 1 give me my town credit goshdarnit

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:27 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:26 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:22 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:20 pm it's alison proto

Why isn't it MacDougall?

carot wants to clear mac because mac is spewed town via day 1 and 2 interactions. I'll note I'm also spewed town from day 1 and day 2 interactions and carot knows that but that's fine because we're beyond that point. The fact that she's willing to clear mac only for it makes Mac/carot look plausible. but if Carot is town then her work analyzing mac/Alison gains credibility. She found them town. She's also tunneling on me for unknown reasons.

What spewed you town? Soneji flip is not accepted as an answer btw

how can mac be spewed town by the rej flip and i can't be spewed town by the soneji flip

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:27 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:26 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:22 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:20 pm it's alison proto

Why isn't it MacDougall?

carot wants to clear mac because mac is spewed town via day 1 and 2 interactions. I'll note I'm also spewed town from day 1 and day 2 interactions and carot knows that but that's fine because we're beyond that point. The fact that she's willing to clear mac only for it makes Mac/carot look plausible. but if Carot is town then her work analyzing mac/Alison gains credibility. She found them town. She's also tunneling on me for unknown reasons.

What spewed you town? Soneji flip is not accepted as an answer btw

how can mac be spewed town by the rej flip and i can't be spewed town by the soneji flip

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:26 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:21 pm Yeah, Alison-TSP it is

Thanks yall

please no