The Syndicate

Boogs wrote:Hey how did you get the banner?

Look at banner, Michael!

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not done playing, nor am I intending to start any drama, I'm merely done with that discussion because it is irritating. I am certainly not going to leave my own site!

And yes, well played to the wolves for both surviving until the end! Say, what was the secret part of your roles, was that revealed?

Oh good. I misinterpreted you.

The secret part was that once we found each other (which was easy. Knowing that Andrew picked the roles, and they were not random, I went through all the animal names. I was llama the wolf. Then I checked Snow Dog, LittleTiger and finally BWT. This is a longer parenthetical note than I intended when I started it.) we had shared night powers from a list. Group protect, dead check, vote block, the usual stuff.

Alex, don't be don! You are one of the most fun players here!

I'm amazed I survived. I was suspected from day one and I made several poor lynch decisions in a row. I'm really glad I was able to convince people that I was alright.

Ambray, now that this is over, why were you so insistent that BWT was bad? Just curious.

Awesome resuot and an awesome game! Thank you to Andrew and Kate3 for hosting it. It was a blast and I devoted many anxious hours to trying to figure out who the baddies were.

I'm think Boogs and BF must both be bad. There's no other explanation for BF's vote. If one of them is the skeleton, his vote counts double, so it would explain Boogs' comment about wanting to tie the votes. Fortunately, even with the extra skeleton vote, Boogs is still leading by a point. I feel confident we will see a baddie lynch in the morning.

Well, I'm the last vote, and I trust BWT, so I guess Boogs it is. Here's hoping.

Guys, we have to stick together on this vote. If we divide, the mafia control the vote and we are sunk.

Why do you suddenly think SE was good, Roxy? I am really nervous about this lynch, since it will probably be our last chance to get a baddie. I have been leaning towards Boogs, but I really don't want to make a mistake.

Roxy, I thought his explanation of the BWT lynch was believable. He obviously had great trust in Ambray (for some reason) and she was adamant about BWT being bad. What worries me more is his attempts to direct discussion away from Boogs and SE (while simultaneously saying he thinks they are probably bad) and his apparent secret knowledge that I don't see how he could have gotten as Full Iron Armor.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:If MP really is the role he flipped as, I don't see how he can have all this specific information. It really concerns me.
Are you saying you think there's a possibility he's been recruited then?

I am starting to warm to the idea, I admit. His behavior has been very strange of late. I'm certainly not confident enough to lynch him, but I find it odd that he keeps trying to sow distrust about people I really think are civvies.

If MP really is the role he flipped as, I don't see how he can have all this specific information. It really concerns me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I know it seems SE and Boogs are the obvious last two, but what do people think of Rox?
You've asked that a few times, and I keep saying that I don't see how she can be bad, given her voting record.
I agree the voting record looks good, I'm just trying to keep open to all possibilities just in case here. I know I've been involved in games where baddies throw their teammates under the bus (I am notorious for such occasional behavior). Thanks for your input though.

Well, apart from her voting record, I am reading her posts as civvie as well, for what that's worth.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I know it seems SE and Boogs are the obvious last two, but what do people think of Rox?

You've asked that a few times, and I keep saying that I don't see how she can be bad, given her voting record.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And so, llama, how does it feel to have been right about DP from the beginning?

It feels very, very good. I love when my instincts turn out right. I'm only sorry I didn't have the same insight about Snow Dog being good.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Catch = BWT.

The algorithms of these insanifiers are truly baffling.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, and do people actually need me to translate any of my posts from this period? I think I covered what I was trying to mainly say and a lot of it is irrelevant now. But I'd be glad to try and recall what the messages were if anyone was wondering. Lol.

I think I got most of them, but what was that run where you were basically posting "catch catch catch catch catch catch catch" for ages?

Right, let's kill Boogs and Se and if there are still baddies left, we'll know it's MP gone rogue.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I also agree that it's likely SE is the last mafia and Boogs is Hero, but I don't know. I guess I am probably wrong about BF given that DP flipped, so it would be impossible for Boogs and BF to be teammates. I know people got on me for this last time, but if Stevie is somehow still alive, I think he should definitely NK Boogs, or even SE.

I don't think BF can be mafia, because of his DP vote, but he could still be Hero.

blindfaeth wrote:llama, where are you getting these numbers? Just curious. bc we still dont know BWT was good, so how do you know boogs has voted a civ 5 times? You said the same thing about me recently, when really we only knew two of the roles of the 4 people I'd voted at the time.

Boogs voted for Snow Dog twice and rustifinko once. We know that those were civvies. He voted for me once, and I know I am a civvie. He voted for BWT once, and I am very confident that BWT is civvie.

I don't recall making similar accusation about you, since only MP and Russ were confirmed civs that you voted for.

Flyin' High wrote: So you have it that Boogs can't be Herobrine on your spreadsheet, llama?

No, not at all. I was taking your assumption that Boogs was the last Mafia. Boogs has voted for a civvie FIVE times in a row now. That maes him more likely to be mafia than hero, but he could be either.

I demand an explanation for your vote, MP.

Flyin' High wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Flyin' High wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I'm catching up on poss now. Roxy, I feel sure BWT is not pulling the wool over my eyes.

I would hope that my tireless crusading against Porcu since day 1 would show people that I am on the side of good.

I don't think my mention of the ship early on should incriminate me, especially since I didn't vote for it. Remember that Snow Dog voted Ship and turned out to be good.
Yes, sorry about that freak out I had where I put the case together about you and BWT. MP's vote had me all uncertain, but I am glad I went with my gut rather than following MP this time. I really hope MP isn't recruited, but I want to hear from him for sure.

I'm filling in some stuff on my spreadsheet now and trying to figure out who might be the last mafia.
I think it must be either Boogs or SE, leaning towards Boogs. Some of his attempts to get us not to lynch him have been very convincing, though.
If Boogs is the last mafia, who do you think Herobrine is?

According to my notes, it has to be either SE or BF, unless of course MP has somehow fooled all of us.

Flyin' High wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I'm catching up on poss now. Roxy, I feel sure BWT is not pulling the wool over my eyes.

I would hope that my tireless crusading against Porcu since day 1 would show people that I am on the side of good.

I don't think my mention of the ship early on should incriminate me, especially since I didn't vote for it. Remember that Snow Dog voted Ship and turned out to be good.
Yes, sorry about that freak out I had where I put the case together about you and BWT. MP's vote had me all uncertain, but I am glad I went with my gut rather than following MP this time. I really hope MP isn't recruited, but I want to hear from him for sure.

I'm filling in some stuff on my spreadsheet now and trying to figure out who might be the last mafia.

I think it must be either Boogs or SE, leaning towards Boogs. Some of his attempts to get us not to lynch him have been very convincing, though.

I'm catching up on poss now. Roxy, I feel sure BWT is not pulling the wool over my eyes.

I would hope that my tireless crusading against Porcu since day 1 would show people that I am on the side of good.

I don't think my mention of the ship early on should incriminate me, especially since I didn't vote for it. Remember that Snow Dog voted Ship and turned out to be good.

Yay my gut was right! BIH DP!

Honestly, I am starting to come around to the "MP is bad" theory. His vote for BWT makes no sense to me.

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Roxy wrote:DP could be bad - yes. He is not playing how I am used to.

But dayum boogs last post is screaming lynch me! Lynch me!

Fudgesicles I am torn!

Llama - what say you about boogs?? About all the suspicions, his crazy posts and theories??

I was totally convinced he was bad (and he still probably is) until my gut started screaming DP at me last night.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Is Birdwithteeth (A)

Don't vote for BWT, Alex. Vote for DP.
But if you drink water. That's a problem.

I never drink water. Fish make love in it. (W.C. Fields)

MovingPictures07 wrote:Is Birdwithteeth (A)

Don't vote for BWT, Alex. Vote for DP.

Boogs wrote:I would like to point out, if MP thought i should be lynched from his blabber, why didnt he cast his vote for me? He kept mentioning BWT and DP also. I'm just saying.

MP tends to hold onto his vote as long as possible, to see if anything develops. It's probably a smart strategy, but I am impatient.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Do you think Russian DP passion

The Russians are a famously cold and passionless people, but that doesn't make DP any less guilty.

Roxy wrote:Porcu - you are getting mentioned a lot. What say you about this lynch??

Vote Porcupine and baddie defeat will follow!

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Flyin' High wrote:I think you're saying you suppose boogs could be bad?
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Well that was an easy one.

I have got to go with my gut. Boogs is probably bad, but my gut has been screaming DP since day one and I can't shake it. Also, the air of desperation in MP's insanified posts is making me paranoid that he thinks we are making a mistake with our Boogs talk.

*Votes DP*

Last night just before I went to bed, I had a stabbing pang in my gut that tells me we should lynch DP instead of Boogs. It is still here this morning. The pressure, oh god the pressure!

Flyin' High wrote:So MP being insanified means the Spider is still alive? The only people who commented on my thinking that Elohcin was Spider due to the lack of insanification Night 1 and Night 3 said they didn't think she was Spider but never followed up with why when I asked (Ambray and Roxy).

I am definitely still down for lynching Boogs. He is acting more like a cornered baddie than a civvie.

I got worn out from doing so much thread reading yesterday and took a break last night, but I'm going to try to finish my big reread today.

Presumably, the Spider could have been one of the people killed last night as well. I assume their night action would still happen even if they were killed.

No one is removed from the poll today, so that means the portal was either role blocked or LittleTiger was the portal. She is the only one who fits.

MovingPictures07 wrote:The actual decision makers or around it. It was a beautiful day, I was mad.

I thought it was too hot, but I was still in a fairly good mood.

MovingPictures07 wrote:The location is not good Insanified.

That is indeed a terrible location.

Of the people left, I pretty much trust everyone besides Boogs and DP (maybe SE, but not sure)

Wow, that's a lot of dead people. I was iffy on all three, so I guess RIPIYWG too all of you.

MP, I think Roxy is civvie both from her tone and from the fact that she voted Epignosis before it was cool.

I would endorse a lynch of Boogs or DP at this point.

I have been trying to bear in mind that the roles were not random, but chosen by Andrew. Given that, I think certain things wthat would seem like weird coincidences are rather more likely.

blindfaeth wrote:
thellama73 wrote:EBWOP: Okay, I am a LITTLE concerned given thta I have one vote and MP is indicating that he will give me another. But that's concern of a different nature than what you were talking about.
Fwiw I thought this was odd because if anything I felt it was more certain he'd vote me, not llama.

This post came right after MP said he was going to vote for me. I think your name came up later, if I'm remembering correctly. I also knew that Snow Dog would vote me if it would be a chance to save himself, so I was a little worried, yes.

Linki w/ BF: I am certainly going to follow my gut from now on. And my gut is rumbling to the tune of DP.

Boogs wrote:
Flyin' High wrote:
thellama73 wrote:If we trust Russ that either indi or Boogs is bad, I would bet Boogs since he voted for a civvie four nights in a row.
Right, and indi was an Epignosis voter and was killed by Herobrine so it couldn't have been her. Whoever Russ targeted on Night 1 or 2 must have been targeted by both indi and Boogs on the same night and was also either killed or had a kill attempted on them that night which would have led Russ to say that.

After I'm done reading through Day 3 I want to go back through boogs' posts again and also see who may have been defending boogs (blindfaeth immediately comes to mind).
I had voted for Snow 2 times because I felt he was bad and have been consistent with voting on how I felt. It is my first game so maybe I don't pick up as some others. I felt confident Snow was bad but obviously was proven wrong. Honestly, I really feel the lynch needs to be BWT because Ambray was on to something but I'm not going to say more to give info to the baddies.

As for BF, we both have been busy and haven't been on and posting as much as MP and others. That doesn't make us being low posters "bad" because we have other thing going on. BF has been pretty good seeing who is bad and I think he is also Civ.

Others have been wrong lynching Civs including MP himself leading the Russ lynch.

If you think BF is good, Boogs. Who do you think the remaining baddies are, besides BWT?

If we trust Russ that either indi or Boogs is bad, I would bet Boogs since he voted for a civvie four nights in a row.

reywaS wrote:Yes, but my point was that you could use that same logic using any two players in this game. You are taking away people's suspicions in your break down there.

No, this is different than any other two players, because if a lynch of one of us turns up a civvie, it will inevitably lead to a lynch of the other. If you lynch me and find out I was telling the truth, you will be forced to lynch Ambray as well. If you lynch her and she flips civvie, you will be forced to lynch me. Thus, the probability of lynching not one, but two civvies is higher than it would be with other players due to the perceived link between us.

reywaS wrote: I'm not sure what the point of this is. It's full of, really, non information...stuff that is obvious....you aren't breaking any news here. Or maybe, I just don't understand what you are getting at. I dunno.

It may be obvious to you, but it may not be to everyone else. There was some talk that either Ambray or I were lying and that perhaps one of us should be lynched. I was merely attempting to use math and logic to show why that would be a poor choice. I wasn't attempting to break news, I was providing analysis of things we all already know.

I'm not sure what you expect me to say. If you have some earth shattering new information, I'd love to hear it.

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