The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 6:25 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:54 pmYeah sure, I do.

Alright. I asked, because my first impression of you was that you had rolled mafia and was excited about it and wanted to do a good job. Meow.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 6:38 am I'd say something like this:

Town:
Kylemii - Really like tone and interaction with choutas seems honest.
Lapluie - Like the tone, and I like to sheep Quin.
Quin - Probably town unless weird bussing.
Jimmeey - Probably town for a number of reasons.

More town than not:
Colin- Kind of purposfully exaggerated my read here to get something out of him. Haven't really made my mind up, but meh.
Wolbre - On the surface doesn't really look super good, but I definitely think they feel different from last game when they were scum.

In the POE:
Eloh - Little to go on. Throwaway vote.
Epig - Practically nothing. Where are you at? Talk about stuff.
Marmot - I will smell his urine to learn what he ate for breakfast.
MP - I actually really dislike the end of day. Seems really apathetic towards Choutas. Other players noted Choutas supposedly eager to get the game going but then doing nothing about it. MP did not take note of this, and he's a strong enough player to notice as town. The switch doesn't look good either.
Scotty - Pretty meh compared to last game when he was town. Not much to go on, but no actual suspicios stuff imo.
Nova - Not much here either. Still hold a small gut suspicion from early game.
Floyd - No show.

I'm mostly eyeing MP, Nova and Marmot. Epig also needs to do something.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:08 pm Interactive rainbow:

Kylemii

Scotty
Quin
Dyslexicon
ColinIsCool

M Plus 7
wolbre07

Elohcin
Charlie Blackmon
lapluie
Marmot
novaselinenever
TheFloyd73

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:13 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:11 pm What does this look like when you factor in existing reads?

Scotty loses some ground. MP gains some ground. I might be kinder to Elohcin and lapluie.

The one I struggle with most in my gut is nova.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 12:05 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 12:02 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:13 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:11 pm What does this look like when you factor in existing reads?

The one I struggle with most in my gut is nova.

Could you expand on your struggle with me?

I think your early interactions with Quin and I looked nice, but you've had nothing since then and played no part in the lynch. You left your vote on me all day.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:27 pm nova has done nothing since his earliest spat with Quin and I. High suspect.

Charlie Baseball has done nothing since he did nothing. High suspect.

wolbre04 has problem moments, and someone needs to check his ISO against the one he produced in Ass Class.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 2:03 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 12:06 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:55 pm

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:25 pm Here's My Reads list, I'll try to provide a small quip next to each one (just in the order i saw them)
Order of the Manboob
Wolbre04 - lord and savior
JJJ - t/t argument with MP7, me and Lilefer have a similar way of playing as t/t against each other


Knights of the Nipple

Kyle
Lapluie - compared to a previous civ game, u look good
Colin
Quin
Nova - fine except that JJJ vote
MP7 - Argument with Jay seems t/t
Marmot/Mac - got us info that makes laplui look pretty good
Quin


Charlie Black Man - baseball guy who isn't actually a black man
Choutas - his meta is low posting and not being around much
Dizzy - dont like your vote on JJJ
Scotty - always wants me dead
Choutas - Who is she

Sekiy
Elohcin
Floyd - Who is she

really exhausted tbh, ima get some sleep, cya guys later

Choutas is in this rainbow twice.

Choutas - his meta is low posting and not being around much
Choutas - Who is she

wolbre, what in the world does this mean? You wrote off that Choutas has the meta of low-posting, and asked who she was??

I'm green in there despite my vote on JJJ being bad according to him. That vote and case I have on JJJ are the only contribution I had D1.

Bing bong. This is basically an antidefense for himself. Nova had no interaction with choutas and felt almost as empty as choutas. I could very well vote here tomorrow if nothing else is inspiring me. But I feel inspired in general and it’s not the xanax

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 8:13 pm Being the generous type that I am, I'll just say Jimmeey, Kyle, MP and Colin for town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 8:25 pm nutella good
Scotty good
MP good
Dizzy good
Kyle good
lapluie good

Colin tinfoil

Marmot no
Epignosis no
Elohcin no

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 10:21 pm fresh artisanal wood-fired rainbow comin in hot (G hasn't even sent me my role yet lmao so these are ultra genuine)

JaggedJimmyJay
Dyslexicon
Quin
lapluie
Kylemii
ColinIsCool
Charlie Blacknosis
Scotty
Marmot
M Plus 7
Elohcin

These are super weak though all around I've changed my mind multiple times on most people while reading the thread. For example when I read most of day 1 I was 100% civ on MP, but he has some bad looks around how the Choutas lynch eventually went down. Can't really decide how I feel about Marmot either.

Now just to find out my alignment.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:02 pm Ugh pretty much none of the choutas interactions are conclusive either way. I'll GTH it.

These are GTH reads almost solely based on the choutas interactions:
Colin: town
Dys: town
Eloh: bad
Epi: bad
Jay: town
Kyle: town
Lap: town
MP: bad
Marmot: bad
Quin: town
Scotty: town

Several of the town ones are still plausible though. Ugh too many possibilities when there are really only 2 teammates.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 6:51 am I think my town pool that I'm more comfortable with now is lapluie, MP, Scotty and Quin. And I'm wondering if that is strange. o.o

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 11:10 am I'm open to new cases like those just presented for MP and Dizzy. I'll have to think about it from a distance, because I still can't be here much today.

I also think that if there are civilian power roles finding themselves consistently called suspects, they need to consider claiming (post-night phase), and early enough to give everyone a chance to re-orient before the deadline. Even if not, y'all need to make sure your information gets into this thread as clearly as you feel you can safely get it here. Nothing will frustrate me more than someone being lynched who should have been confirmed civilian.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 1:18 am Sockface had a revelation and was led hand to mouth from marmot to Elo:

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:21 pm I'm switching to Elo for now to make sure these wagons are competitive.

[VOTE: ELOHCIN] aubergine

“Make the wagons competitive”- still reads marmot and Elo as bad here.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:30 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:28 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:20 pm Quin, why are you town reading Elo and Marmot?

clean slate. i have no read on marmot anymore.

Yeah, I'm doing the same. Despite flipping on both of them throughout the game, in looking through their ISOs, I'm realizing that neither of one of them looks particularly great by any means.

I dunno but A does not organically lead to B. He just read both as bad, but nods along with Quin in having a “clean slate”, habing no read on marmot, followed in the same thought by “neither [elo or marmot] look great”

Where did this change of heart come from, and why does it just feel like MP sneezed out his marmot boogie at the drop of a cat?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:28 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:20 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 12:00 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

This is still my preference. I have more active suspicion of him than I do of Elohcin.

Can you explain your thoughts regarding both of them, like if they are each alignment? I'm just curious what all you are considering in your assessments for each.

Marmot inherited Mac, and I didn't care for Mac on Day 1. He received suspicion and did nothing more than laugh at it, and then Choutas said that "Mac is right in the role" thing which continues to show itself brightly when I review this game. Marmot himself is generally off-meta, has given considerable focus to his suspicion of you (which, despite his considerable effort, I still don't understand with clarity), and his Choutas vote was crappy at face value. On the other hand, I can respect the effort he has given, and it's easier to believe he is trying to solve the game than some others in the poll. That can only go so far, but it's something.

The best thing I can say for Elohcin is that she didn't capitalize on her opportunity to get me lynched on Day 1. At this point that isn't such a standout thing though, and I have no reason to believe she has a vested interest in solving the game. That may not be so abnormal for her, but I cannot give her a break when my POE pool has become relatively limited with her in it.

I have active suspicion of Marmot. For Elohcin, it's more an absence of good things.

Cool, thanks. We're on similar pages.

Are you? So you have an active suspicion of marmot here but are just meh about Elo’s activity? What about that clean slate?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:46 pm After reading Elo's ISO and quickly skimming Marmot's ISO, I think I'd rather lynch Elo than Marmot, but it's a tough call.

More overjustificaion of leaving marmot for Elo.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:54 pm If Elo and Marmot are both scum, that'd be amazing.

But still onboard the marmot bad train.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:56 pm Actually, I'd maybe even bump Marmot up to yellow instead of red on my PoE rainbow after digging into the ISO some more. Some of it does seem like sincere hunting.

Ope! Out of left field, and it isn’t even Charlie (It’s more like Justin Upton or something) Marmot has progressed further up his rainbow because “some of it does seem like sincere hunting.” Lol but not all of it.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 27, 2018 8:56 pm Y'all should give me a four-name POE pool.

Hmmmm...

Charlie Epignosis
ColinIsCool
Elohcin
Marmot

I could swap in you for Marmot at this stage; I feel relatively similarly about you both.

And NOW he would even switch out Marmot for JJJ, who he has done a compete 180 on today.

Soon, Marmot will be greener than a cow on iceskates in his rainbow, and jjj will be the devil again.


This all looks infinitely bad if Marmot is an waster bubby and not quite as incriminating if he isn’t, but think- of both marmot and Elo are both civ and MP knows it, would this progression make sense from a scum MP mindset?

I’m tired and I might be smoking crack right now on the subject, but it’s frog for thought

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 2:03 am All of Colin, Marmot, Mp and Quin can’t be bad, so this is slightly frustrating.

I think we should just lynch colin tomorrow and run from there. @nutella @M Plus 7

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 7:29 pm If I die tonight, look at Epi, Quin and MP on top of Colon.

I feel good about dys, jjj and nutella, though I’m curious to hear out why JJj finds nutella murky.