The Syndicate

bea wrote:

Luke11646 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

FZ. wrote:Sorsha, was there a time, after the MM lynch when you were suspicious of Golden?

No

Voting for Luke and hoping this will end it!

I'm not bad, I give up, if you guys want to lynch me you can lynch me

Luke -
Can you see why people are suspicious of you? If you addressed that at all, it might help.
If not you then who should we be looking at? Why? Give me a reason to look elsewhere and I'll look. I mgiht not agree with it, but I will try to see your side.

You are super new, and I hope the experience doesn't turn you off to the game itself.

Sorsha wrote:

FZ. wrote:Sorsha, was there a time, after the MM lynch when you were suspicious of Golden?

No

Voting for Luke and hoping this will end it!

MacDougall wrote:The timing of Luke just now showing up in a panic to post is a bit of a giveaway tbh.

Matt F wrote:Holy toledo!

I just read Luke's ISO, and it is odd.

The day sig gets forced votes, Luke asks why everyone is voting for sig. The day Turnip is lynched, Floyd votes for TH, Luke says "can you please explain your vote". He seems to get specifically interested in players when it's the bad guys (and before we know they're the bad guys).

Also, Golden, calm down. That's all I'm asking. We have 48 hours.

Golden wrote:Some other reasons Luke is bad.

Luke11646 wrote:

Golden wrote:Hey, Luke... you've played pretty well for a newbie. Especially if you are a civ with no teammates to speak to. I hope you stick around

Thanks, I guess.

I guess he felt the compliment was halfhearted.

a2thezebra wrote:Well you could lynch Luke, too. No civ-aligned player feels the need to say "I don't know who to vote for" this much.

Luke11646 wrote:

FZ. wrote:So Luke, if you're finished reading, what do you think of everything that's going on? Any thoughts? Who do you plan to vote for?

I don't really know who to vote for but I'm leaning towards voting for Mac, he hasn't done much at all recently and I don't know who else I should vote for.

Luke11646 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Golden wrote:Marmot barely posted in this thread for days, and then suddenly appeared when people said it was suspicious. I don't think lynching him would be unfair - that's very odd behaviour for a marmot.

If I'm not going with Eloh, I could go with MM. What's your opinion of Eloh? You said that if zebra 1 comes out civ, you might change your opinion on Eloh. Did you?

What about Floyd?


Linki: Luke, if you go by who hasn't done much lately, there are plenty of people to lynch before Mac. What about Banana, Drac and some others? Does low posting equal being bad in your opinion? If that's the case, does it mean you're bad too?

I don't know who to vote for and I might just vote for someone who isn't going to get lynched, I don't want to miss two votes in a row.

Luke11646 wrote:The poll is about to end so I'm just going to vote for banana, he's only posted once and I don't know who to vote for, don't take this personally banana.

Luke11646 wrote:

sig wrote:I don't like Luke's vote at all he completely avoids both wagons and doesn't comment on either.
@Luke thoughts on MM/Floyd?

I'm new and I don't know who to vote for, I'll get back to you after I've re-read.

He definitely had the most motive to kill zebra, who was after him consistently from early on.

Golden wrote:Mac's good, but despite his first 17 posts being on point

If we do not lynch luke tomorrow, we will not be lynching a harkonnen. Unless svs is wrong about bea. I'm going to have a second look at bea tomorrow.

House Atriedes

Mac
SVS
Matt
Golden
Draconus
Black Rock
Zebra 1.0

House Fremen

Zebra 2.0
FZ
bea
eloh

House emperor

Floyd
Ninja
Sorsha

House smuggler

Banana

House harkonnen

TH
MM
sig
luke

If I have anyone in the wrong house, they can feel free to call me out without telling me their real house. I'm not 100% certain.

FZ. wrote:Okay, if no one else thinks SVS is bad, I'm letting it go. I made terrible judgements this game, so maybe this is just another one of them

It leaves me with Luke and Blooper.

With Luke, the strongest reason to see him as baddie is how he defended Floyd when there was a tie between MM and Floyd, and the deadline had passed. Only then did Luke say he didn't see why Floyd was getting votes. He had no problem voting for him last day.
In his favour, if he's bad, he didn't really have a reason to jump on the Floyd lynch last day. But if one of his team buddies are still talking to him BTSC, it's more plausible.


With Bloop, Sig took out BR who voted for him on the first day. Blooper voiced suspicion of him but only voted for him on the second day when no one else voted for him, but not on the first day when he had 2 votes. Sig killed Drac on the second night (his other voter from day 1), who was not an active player at all, but left Blooper, who was the only one to vote for him that day, alive. She didn't vote for him the next day either. She voted Floyd after me. She also didn't vote TH, but voted Eloh instead. No idea where that vote came from.


Out of these two, I'd say Blooper feels worse.

TheFloyd73 wrote:

Luke11646 wrote:

TheFloyd73 wrote:

Luke11646 wrote:

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I think FZ could be bad.

I think Floyd & Luke are nubs and hard to judge by the standards with which we judge each other. And you know me, I pay attention to those i suspect, and not as much to everyone else.

Let me ask you a question. Do you hold the same degree of certainly about FZ that i hold about Bea? Be honest with me here.

Linki, What "tude"? Matt asked you a question you seem unwilling to answer it.

No, I definitely don't hold the same degree of certainty you hold about bea. This is why I'm trying to make clear that I don't have a 'number of days' thing.

Who would answer Matt's question? I disagree with you that it was a 'good' question. It's a question that, in fact, has no good answer, other than for me to claim info. It also starts by presuming that outcomes that are not FZ won't end the game.

My truest answer is 'if we don't lynch FZ today, NO civilians have to die, because we could lynch the last harkonnen and win. On the other hand, if we lynch FZ today, I think at least one civilian has to die, before we win." That would be the truest answer I could give.

But, as I say, this is not me having a bea level of certainty. It's just what I think is going on.

@Matt - well, that certainly makes life easier. My vote today will only be for either floyd or FZ. Lets hope luke isn't the baddie.

Lucky I'm not the baddie, I admit that I am a nub, but Floyd definitely isn't, he seems shady, his reasons for voting aren't very good and he hasn't answered any questions, so I'm voting for him.

What questions?

The questions about your item

I answered that, look through my posts and you will find it

Golden wrote:Hey, Luke... you've played pretty well for a newbie. Especially if you are a civ with no teammates to speak to. I hope you stick around

TheFloyd73 wrote:

Luke11646 wrote:

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I think FZ could be bad.

I think Floyd & Luke are nubs and hard to judge by the standards with which we judge each other. And you know me, I pay attention to those i suspect, and not as much to everyone else.

Let me ask you a question. Do you hold the same degree of certainly about FZ that i hold about Bea? Be honest with me here.

Linki, What "tude"? Matt asked you a question you seem unwilling to answer it.

No, I definitely don't hold the same degree of certainty you hold about bea. This is why I'm trying to make clear that I don't have a 'number of days' thing.

Who would answer Matt's question? I disagree with you that it was a 'good' question. It's a question that, in fact, has no good answer, other than for me to claim info. It also starts by presuming that outcomes that are not FZ won't end the game.

My truest answer is 'if we don't lynch FZ today, NO civilians have to die, because we could lynch the last harkonnen and win. On the other hand, if we lynch FZ today, I think at least one civilian has to die, before we win." That would be the truest answer I could give.

But, as I say, this is not me having a bea level of certainty. It's just what I think is going on.

@Matt - well, that certainly makes life easier. My vote today will only be for either floyd or FZ. Lets hope luke isn't the baddie.

Lucky I'm not the baddie, I admit that I am a nub, but Floyd definitely isn't, he seems shady, his reasons for voting aren't very good and he hasn't answered any questions, so I'm voting for him.

What questions?

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I think FZ could be bad.

I think Floyd & Luke are nubs and hard to judge by the standards with which we judge each other. And you know me, I pay attention to those i suspect, and not as much to everyone else.

Let me ask you a question. Do you hold the same degree of certainly about FZ that i hold about Bea? Be honest with me here.

Linki, What "tude"? Matt asked you a question you seem unwilling to answer it.

No, I definitely don't hold the same degree of certainty you hold about bea. This is why I'm trying to make clear that I don't have a 'number of days' thing.

Who would answer Matt's question? I disagree with you that it was a 'good' question. It's a question that, in fact, has no good answer, other than for me to claim info. It also starts by presuming that outcomes that are not FZ won't end the game.

My truest answer is 'if we don't lynch FZ today, NO civilians have to die, because we could lynch the last harkonnen and win. On the other hand, if we lynch FZ today, I think at least one civilian has to die, before we win." That would be the truest answer I could give.

But, as I say, this is not me having a bea level of certainty. It's just what I think is going on.

@Matt - well, that certainly makes life easier. My vote today will only be for either floyd or FZ. Lets hope luke isn't the baddie.

Turnip Head wrote:

Luke11646 wrote:

bea wrote:Luke! You are here! What do you think about...well...everything....

Linki sorsha. That's a fair point as well.

I think that one of the forced voters is the one that forced the other two to vote and voted to make it look like they were forced to vote as well, also Bea really wanted to save sig and he turned out to be bad, Matt F made a good case on her pointing that out.

What does this even mean Luke? Everyone who voted Floyd was trying to save sig, do you think they're all bad? Why single out bea?

bea wrote:Luke! You are here! What do you think about...well...everything....

Linki sorsha. That's a fair point as well.

TheFloyd73 wrote:Going with TH for the moment, but they may change.

FZ. wrote:Okay, I need to go, and I need to go now. Since no one is going to be the one to make the decision here, I'll do it. I'm going with Floyd. I think we learn more from lynching him, then we do Luke. If Floyd comes out civ, Luke looks worse in my eyes, for saying what he did after the deadline last day.

voting Floyd

FZ. wrote:Oops, LOL. Good job Sorsha. I'm sorry I made the lynch go to a tie. I still don't know if Floyd is civ, but I'm glad it went that way.
No, I'm not bad. Just didn't know where to put my vote.

Matt F wrote:Sorsha (or anyone) - Do you still see MM's day one vote for Turnip a distancing vote?

Also, I think FZ deserves a re-read after her pushing the tie that may have saved a baddie.

I guess I have it coming.
If I were bad (and nobody knows this because you haven't played with me as bad, so don't take my word for it), I would have been the second one to vote for MM after realizing Sorsha was on to him.

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MetalMarsh89 has been lynched and was Piter De Vries.

It is now Night 2. You have 24 hours to submit your PMs.

I see you MM

Damn, I swear to god, that the first thing that came to mind when I saw you dead was that MM killed you because when I started playing you two had this vendetta against each other. But then I thought you were over it, so it couldn't have been him.


Like I said, if I were bad, I would recognize MM was busted and would vote him early on, so I think it's also worth looking at his voters. But other than Floyd, none of them really look suspicious to me. Maybe SVS. All others feel civ to me.



Luke, why did you wait until after deadline to say that you thought Floyd was not bad? Before that, you just kept saying you had no idea who to vote for, and wanted to not influence the lynch. You said nothing about MM or Floyd before deadline.

MacDougall wrote:Luke you aren't meant to celebrate when your team lose a player.

sig wrote:I don't like Luke's vote at all he completely avoids both wagons and doesn't comment on either.
@Luke thoughts on MM/Floyd?

sig wrote:I don't like Luke's vote at all he completely avoids both wagons and doesn't comment on either.
@Luke thoughts on MM/Floyd?

FZ. wrote:

Golden wrote:Marmot barely posted in this thread for days, and then suddenly appeared when people said it was suspicious. I don't think lynching him would be unfair - that's very odd behaviour for a marmot.

If I'm not going with Eloh, I could go with MM. What's your opinion of Eloh? You said that if zebra 1 comes out civ, you might change your opinion on Eloh. Did you?

What about Floyd?


Linki: Luke, if you go by who hasn't done much lately, there are plenty of people to lynch before Mac. What about Banana, Drac and some others? Does low posting equal being bad in your opinion? If that's the case, does it mean you're bad too?

FZ. wrote:So Luke, if you're finished reading, what do you think of everything that's going on? Any thoughts? Who do you plan to vote for?

FZ. wrote:Luke is lurking. Luke, come out come out wherever you are. Come talk to us

MacDougall wrote:The dead have risen. Run for your lives!

Turnip Head wrote:I can confirm that spice was a bad choice