The Syndicate

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:23 pm I'm kinda scared to play as scum on this forum after this game. Seeing how y'all so easily town read me, if I make the slightest meta change, y'all would catch me.

We dub that the glorfindel effect

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:02 pm Epi, you killed me Night 1!
This is hilarious because if I had survived I would have pushed hard for a long con kill and Epi went for it anyways

i think the better part was long con had close to nothing posted and he still got killed

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:01 am I also could have specified that roleclaiming, action claiming, and 'I'm not telling you but this is mechanical' claiming wasn't allowed. Once again, I did not.

I'm not upset with Drago, and especially not with Epi. Again, I think town played extremely well, and this set of circumstances in no way invalidates the game. Drago used his night actions really well, though partly by chance.

It's weird that I can barely remember games without D1 mafia lynches anymore. We need to start favoring mafia more in the setups. :P

I agree

I’ll be voting jack

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

I thought we decided epi was town

I'll do a vote color chart later see how it's looking

also [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] my buttons arent working? like for changing color or text size etc. whats up with that? at the least i have some of the basic ones memorized

that being said, i dont actually suspect epignosis, more so said it to relax any bellyaching

I'm going back to my list i made earlier and (at the request of drago) putting creature and Jack as my two lynch candidates

Spoiler: show

Night 2 list:

Good
-Dragomir
-Epignosis
-MacDougal

Ugly
-JaggedJimmyJay
-nutella

Bad
-Creature
-Jackofhearts2005

I had mac in the bad category due to i was just being stubborn and didnt want to admit i felt like he was town. But with 2 threats down and probably only one left, I should just suck it up and give him his credit. I want to say no one on Rej's wagon (besides himself) is mafia either, which i already felt good about drago. And i can give epi half credit since it was also technically a self preservation. Either mafia voted for epi to be lynched or they watched as everything happened, which summarizes the last four people nicely

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:24 pm Oh or sprityo

i just did y'all a favor, idk what else you want from me?

if you guys want to lynch epi next be my guest

Mafia should just go ahead and off epi if they want to be cool though

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:51 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:47 pm OKAY

sorry, I got fucked over somehow and couldn’t reply or PM anyone

I’m any case I switch my vote to rej because it was like 2 minutes left and it was either break the tie or not
Thanks I hate it.

you can thank me all later

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:49 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:47 pm OKAY

sorry, I got fucked over somehow and couldn’t reply or PM anyone

I’m any case I switch my vote to rej because it was like 2 minutes left and it was either break the tie or not
Didn't even see you'd done that until now. k.

Don’t worry everyone, I saved the day

I was just late, but not too late

OKAY

sorry, I got fucked over somehow and couldn’t reply or PM anyone

I’m any case I switch my vote to rej because it was like 2 minutes left and it was either break the tie or not

Test?

Self voting. Interesting.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:40 am We have a weird deadline. Who is absolutely certain they won't be here for it? I should be here for the couple hours prior or so.

I will be here since it's just before 10 pm for me

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:32 pm I believe that you believe in what you're saying Dragomir, but I think it's misguided. Rej's suspicion of you, which I find disagreeable and reliant upon considerable stretches, is still difficult to associate with some kind of mafia "agenda". If a mafia Rej is doing this, I think it'd have to be because a mafia Rej feels like doing it. Strategically speaking, spending his time and resources working against you is unlikely to net your lynch given your stature in other players' reads. If Rej wants to be rid of you for some reason, it's hard to understand why his chosen approach would be "kill Long Con and then pursue a Dragomir lynch" instead of just "kill Dragomir".
Why kill me? I'm pretty sure everyone and their mother thought I'd be protected. I don't think he actually wants to get me lynched. He's just trying to spend his time he knows ain't getting lynched to look contributive. He's trying to pull what TSP did and evidently by this exact post of yours, it's working. Why town read Rej? I don't get it.

in context, we're in a heist, which is limited to 3 PRs max. It's reasonable to assume there's a doctor, but not a guarantee.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:36 pm Sprityo please stop insulting me.

Very well, only passive aggressive statement from now on

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:57 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:56 pm i found it finally.

Yeah so we're just buying this at face value then? Jay looks like he just instantly went with it.

and Tony "admits" to it ~9 minutes later.

So Occam's razor says that mac caught tony and tony fessed up when....he couldve just said that mac was lying since no one else besides mac saw it.

But Hickam's dictum to it is that mac and tony made a plan for mac to catch him out and win some town points

that's all the work im gonna be doing for today
Oh, is this the theory you were referring to?

Independent of any razors or dictums, this just strikes me as something that is unlikely to be a person's actual idea. When I consider that as a deliberate plan, it feels like conspiracy theory. I think Tony's response to my question just looks like it refers to an actual vote he placed based upon some actual thought process he was having (even if fake).

In a Mac-mafia universe I'd instead just see one guy seeing his already-troubled teammate and capitalizing on something that occurred in real-time for credit. Hell, in that regard it might be a better look for Mac -- he didn't really put it out there in a way that gives him great distancing credit, because his initial take was that it was "too obvious to be mafia". I don't know that Mac is typically the sort to work with these squirrely half-measures when he is interacting with his teammates.

You’re right, mac is way too boring to try something like that

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:54 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:36 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:19 pm Afk, watching Jojos

You will be surprised...I exactly watched that episode LMAOOOOO

I’m just glad you’re actually watching JJBA because it’s so over the top ridiculous and it’s great

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:13 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:57 pm also:
[VOTE: jackofhearts2005] aubergine
I’m moderately convinced you’re town at this point so get better reads.

Ya but why

also:
[VOTE: jackofhearts2005] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:22 pm @JaggedJimmyJay how do you feel about the fact that TSP just voted for you?
Bad. Worse that he promptly moved it. Answering nutella's JJJ/Tony theory in that manner looks like a challenge, and it looks like one intended to make her or others believe the theory to be true. The movement of the vote accentuates that. See gang! I voted JJJ and then backed off! Isn't that juicy??? After you lynch me you can take him out next like you already want to do so bad!
You may not have noticed but he voted for Epignosis without announcing it, then moved it to Rej.

It feels like Mafia but it's too obvious I think.
@TonyStarkPrime please tell me about the Epignosis vote as well. Hurry up, time is of the essence.
rej vote: I reread him and found issue with the post where he responded to being asked about Drago I will go find it for you if you want
Epi vote: I was gonna vote for Rej and then I was like "nah if I vote for Epi maybe I can get him to join in this fiasco" and then I decided it was enough of a fiasco

i found it finally.

Yeah so we're just buying this at face value then? Jay looks like he just instantly went with it.

and Tony "admits" to it ~9 minutes later.

So Occam's razor says that mac caught tony and tony fessed up when....he couldve just said that mac was lying since no one else besides mac saw it.

But Hickam's dictum to it is that mac and tony made a plan for mac to catch him out and win some town points

that's all the work im gonna be doing for today

Jay would you entertain my theory for a moment?

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:34 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:27 pm -JaggedJimmyJay
-Dragomir
-nutella
-Rej
-Long Con

-MacDougall
-Epignosis
-Jackofhearts2005
[sstrike]-TonyStarkPrime[/strike]
-Creature
also for some reason im unable to use the buttons for color or the emojis, anyone got any idea why?

New list following day 1:

Good
-Dragomir
-Rej
-Epignosis
Ugly
-JaggedJimmyJay
-nutella
-Jackofhearts2005
Bad
-MacDougall
-Long Con
-Creature

We'll divide it into 3 since that makes a pretty, round list.

Here's my day 2 G,B,U list.

Good
-Dragomir
-JaggedJimmyJay

Ugly
-Rej
-Epignosis
-nutella

Bad
-Creature
-MacDougal
-Jackofhearts2005

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:19 pm Afk, watching Jojos

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:59 pm Let it be know I've done nothing to help the civilian cause today. Expect more of the same tomorrow.

Epignosis is my spirit animal

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:17 pmSprityoooo

Dah?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:13 am I think with respect to the potential distancing vote from Tony, there's a clear distinction:

When Tony voted for me, he literally called it a "challenge". He broadcasted that vote to the universe.

When Tony voted for Epignosis, he bailed on it immediately without even mentioning that it had existed.
He bailed on your vote really quick too.

I think anything from Tony as of him voting you is pretty wifom-y.
His vote for me and subsequent bail were absolutely WIFOM. He did them in broad daylight and told everyone he did them.

He told nobody about his Epi vote. I wouldn't even know it happened if Mac hadn't caught it.

Was mac the only one that caught that? For whatever reason I can’t remember a screenshot or something to prove his claim.

And lord knows I won’t be looking through his iso right now

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:44 pm Poor Long Con, why mafia killed him off when they could order a mislynch on him if they played well.

someone is spitting in the face of the town obviously

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:52 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:23 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:07 am Too much blathering.

Get to the point

I want long con or creature lynched tomorrow

Any other option doesn’t seem nearly as viable

Like how no one thought tony was town, or almost no one.

Who are the opposition to thinking LC/Creature are town? Everyone else at least has some modicum of townness about them. It’s like a pseudo GTH
So rather than converse with each other we should just shut up and lynch the low poster and the no poster?

Sounds heaps fun.
Yah that post was bad

Most likely we're just two mislynches

I’m not the least concerned about a mislynch today

But just today

I worded that wrong, in my rush to use big words

Who thinks they are town, and if so why? (Especially Nutella who has a vested interest in creature for some odd reason that I can’t recall seeing earlier)

Too much blathering.

Get to the point

I want long con or creature lynched tomorrow

Any other option doesn’t seem nearly as viable

Like how no one thought tony was town, or almost no one.

Who are the opposition to thinking LC/Creature are town? Everyone else at least has some modicum of townness about them. It’s like a pseudo GTH

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:29 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:33 pm I won't be of much him right now as I got a shitload of homework to do which are all due tomorrow. As of right now, here's my rainbow.

Jay
Epi
Nutella
Sprityo
Long Con
MacDougall

Creature
Jack
Rej
Why am I a different and less green shade of green than everyone else? That seems weird to me...

You’re puke green while I am a nice broccoli green

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:15 pm Tony got bussed. I'm sold. He's waving flags at his accusers and trying to mask which one did it.

I can get behind this theory

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:50 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:34 pm Bad
-Long Con
Nope nope nope nope absolutely not. Lynching me would be very bad.

y

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:42 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:29 pm I'm like a cake, you gotta let it bake, then sit before it's delicious
I kinda want to test this but Sprityo coasted late into Sockvale and Girl Genius.

girl genius i didnt even play really

sockville i was just late due to circumstances, but you can't say i didnt hop in and do a good job

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:27 pm -JaggedJimmyJay
-Dragomir
-nutella
-Rej
-Long Con

-MacDougall
-Epignosis
-Jackofhearts2005
-TonyStarkPrime
-Creature

also for some reason im unable to use the buttons for color or the emojis, anyone got any idea why?

New list following day 1:

Good
-Dragomir
-Rej
-Epignosis
Ugly
-JaggedJimmyJay
-nutella
-Jackofhearts2005
Bad
-MacDougall
-Long Con
-Creature

We'll divide it into 3 since that makes a pretty, round list.

I'm like a cake, you gotta let it bake, then sit before it's delicious

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:28 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:58 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:56 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:54 am

Ironically, my decision to just vote Tony came when I realized that despite him being around, he was basically just letting me defend him/yell about Rej instead of doing it himself.

Roundabout.
So you were shouting to me that Rej had furry ears and then the camera panned over to Tony and his furry ears?
Actually yes, that’s pretty accurate!

This dude is doing exactly what you’re saying Rej is doing. #rememberfireemblem2k18
the only thing i remember about that game besides losing after trying really hard, was when mac, epi, and myself all had btsc and lynched jay only for him to be civilian
You were so obviously civ in that game (and in Mass Effect). I’m waiting for you to play like that again.

the stars will align someday, mostly it just takes me surviving until mid game when i can do vote analysis'

early game has never been my strong suit

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:58 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:56 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:54 am

Ironically, my decision to just vote Tony came when I realized that despite him being around, he was basically just letting me defend him/yell about Rej instead of doing it himself.

Roundabout.
So you were shouting to me that Rej had furry ears and then the camera panned over to Tony and his furry ears?
Actually yes, that’s pretty accurate!

This dude is doing exactly what you’re saying Rej is doing. #rememberfireemblem2k18

the only thing i remember about that game besides losing after trying really hard, was when mac, epi, and myself all had btsc and lynched jay only for him to be civilian

From a meta argument

You can say TSP should have no fear of being lynched since if he’s civilian, he can replace in to long con.

Long con is here now though and the votes have already been had

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:37 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:02 am Hey hey, sorry I'm late!
lynch long con

I second the deadman

Realistically, i can't actually tell when mac is scum because his approach is 9/10 the same in every game (which makes him a good player no doubt)

but having my vote where it was allowed for a more conducive voting environment, it's served its purpose and I now should back off of it and put the pressure elsewhere

either by adding to the tie or breaking another

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:05 pm Jay, there are times that you make think that you're scum and there are times that you make me think that you're town. What do you think I should do to reach a conclusion on you?

You're asking him to tell you what you should think?

linki: voting to tie is always better than sitting on a vote i dont have enough to back up

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:05 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:00 pm [VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

I don't want to lynch Dragomir.

I'm moving my vote to an empty wagon until I'm finished with my work.
You can vote for nobody you know. It's an option on the poll.
Oh yeah cool.

[VOTE: Nobody] aubergine

I just noticed this as well and hooh boy, let me drop a nice vote on Nobody

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:08 pm [Mafia] don't disappear abruptly, they don't come up with excuses all the time.

This statement is in fact false, if not impossible to prove.

Jack, Myself, and Rej had a minimal played game and we won Sockville Penitentiary

I literally didn't show up until day 3 (not because i didnt want to but still)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:08 pm I'm finally available and there's nobody to talk to. Brilliant.
I’m looking around for your Rej beefs. I remember you said something
It was in the course of finishing my post from last night.

Rej said this:

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:15 am I find the votes at Mac interesting, after he received some good townreads. After looking at sprityo's Iso:
From the first first posts on they tunneled Mac and threatened him with a kill. Sounds like a challenge/bait. Feels like some personal stuff. I don't know how anyone of them profits from this if they would be scum. Still I can't get a civillian sprityo in my head right now.

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:18 am Epignosis also did not receive any civillian reads from my side, so the wagon on Mac is the most suspicious thing I have seen yet in this game lol.
This was when I voted Mac and sprityo followed. I'd like to hear what anybody else has to say regarding this.

The total votes on mac at that time had no bearing whether i was going to vote him. Hence why im still parked here now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:43 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:54 pm You gave him a "naw." Why's that?
He has hardly done anything, and none of it stands out to me. I will think about what you’ve said.

I’m putting Mac back in the naughty pile. There is dissonance there.
Yes because I have two votes on me from at least 1 civilian so there is a chance of mislynch. I've seen this dance before.
I don’t believe that sprityo is the guy civilian Mac is lynching right now.
Why would I not want to lynch sprityo jay?

1. I hated his intro post.
2. He has done nothing but bait me.

my last thing i'm quoting mac, on.

Do you believe i have the capacity, the actual knowledge and experience to bait you? even at a modest level?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:47 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:57 pm The best way to get a read on Long Con is to solidify reads on everyone else. POE is the only way to do anything with inactive players.

I think TSP and sprityo are suspects, but for me it’s more about the absence of civilian indicators than a presence of mafia indicators. Long Con has no civilian indicators either and is accordingly a suspect.

I don’t think he’d even be blank anymore in my rainbow. He’s orange by virtue of numerous others being green. There are only so many slots.
nice 180, jackass

i'll be returning this sticker now

i didnt want your grubby handouts anyways :suspicious:
You're the one being a jackass

im not denying it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:45 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:13 am If anyone needs a reason to vote for sprityo just read his iso and ask yourself whether his reads are pro town.
my reads are anti mac

So is your entire game. It's like you don't care abouy anything but fighting with me.

Meanwhile I have angles playing out with several people and I am the one with votes.

Oh well.

it's certainly a fun game, no doubt, but here's to hoping i can move past it once day 1 is over

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:29 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:21 pm Like i said, mac wanted to hop to it so i'll eat my hat before i let him take a stroll over my entire torso
I don’t doubt it. Why did you list me on the trusted side in your reads?

I felt inclined you wanted to have a good time and not be standard JJJ, thus so you are a civilian because i dont believe it's in your character to try new things as mafia

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