The Syndicate

Btw, it's kinda hard to roleplay as a skaven and play mafia because skaven never take responsibility for anything, generally don't have friends and generally don't mind blowing up a bunch of their allies if they get in their way.

So like...it was fun but it's also hard to shield players or not seemingly engage in omgus while staying in character. I hope nobody felt like I was actually calling them an idiot. That was mostly roleplay and disagreement.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:16 pm Queek was not here for end of day. Queek was doing many important task-things.

Old-thing wagon looks full of good skaven like Queek and others who are not as smart-wise as Queek.

If old-thing is a wolf-thing who has given up, why did other wolf-things not buss him? Tell me if this is good thought or if Queek needs to execute scouts who reported it.

how can anyone be scumreading this

I mean, I'd kill Jack just out of dislike towards smelly ass skaven

Spoiler: show

You know what you did.

If I had a penny for every unit I had to waste to block gnawholes...

Wait, you actually play for realzies warhammer?

Collecting a skaven army for real life is something I'd do if had a lot more money and space and was less into video games.

Buy a 3d printer and just play with friends at your local game store instead of the Warhammer store.

I just printed and build a Great Unclean One and a Warhound Titan last week.

Spoiler: show

In GW plastic I have Fyreslayers, Flesh Eater Courts, Custodes and Ad Mech.

Gah, that's super cool. I've been reading through the Skaven 8th edition army book as if it was a fucking novel.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:17 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:23 am i'd rather it be everyone tbh

(seriously speaking i would like mac to be a wagon again, im only not voting him rn bcuz i wanna vote esooa for a while)

toxic

This, however, is a good look for ris

Seems like kinda a nothing look tbh.

Like it's a one word joke post.

So what is the context that makes it a joke? Am I dumb or something, I got 3 of y'all pointing it out but I don't see it.

Snow has a very mild, very impersonal push on Mac.

Mac calls the push "toxic" but you couldn't really push in a less toxic and offensive way if you tried.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:16 pm Queek was not here for end of day. Queek was doing many important task-things.

Old-thing wagon looks full of good skaven like Queek and others who are not as smart-wise as Queek.

If old-thing is a wolf-thing who has given up, why did other wolf-things not buss him? Tell me if this is good thought or if Queek needs to execute scouts who reported it.

how can anyone be scumreading this

I mean, I'd kill Jack just out of dislike towards smelly ass skaven

Spoiler: show

You know what you did.

If I had a penny for every unit I had to waste to block gnawholes...

Wait, you actually play for realzies warhammer?

Collecting a skaven army for real life is something I'd do if had a lot more money and space and was less into video games.

If we yeet a wolf today, I'm going back Queekposting js.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:17 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:23 am i'd rather it be everyone tbh

(seriously speaking i would like mac to be a wagon again, im only not voting him rn bcuz i wanna vote esooa for a while)

toxic

This, however, is a good look for ris

Seems like kinda a nothing look tbh.

Like it's a one word joke post.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:16 pm Queek was not here for end of day. Queek was doing many important task-things.

Old-thing wagon looks full of good skaven like Queek and others who are not as smart-wise as Queek.

If old-thing is a wolf-thing who has given up, why did other wolf-things not buss him? Tell me if this is good thought or if Queek needs to execute scouts who reported it.

how can anyone be scumreading this

I mean, I'd kill Jack just out of dislike towards smelly ass skaven

Snow's iso doesn't have a smoking gun but Mac is in the middle of her read list and none of their interactions look impossible to fake.

I'm now voting for Snow for a few reasons.

1) They are the most likely Mac teammate I see after having read everybody in my POE. I'd like the wagons to be between Snow and myself over say...Nanook and myself or Santy and myself.

2) They a voting me anyway so there's no downside.

I'm not really as confident on Wilgy as I was earlier.

I think these posts look good for Wilgy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:33 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:07 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:06 pm I veto the kingmaker.

I want to play mafia not follow an angry old aussie man.

you sound jealous

Nah I'm good love. I like being young and not aussie.

What's so wrong with Mac as king tho?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:11 pm I like how I'm always nice to sabi and defending her from haters and just get shat on by them in exchange. Super cool stuff tbh.

kek

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:18 pm ok I'm going to try to maintain a nice positive atmosphere for our new friends to enjoy so that will be the last of my toxicity for this game

AAAAAAAAAAH wolf Mac.

Sabi was right to SPECIFICALLY dislike kingmaker on the premise that MAC is king.

elaborate

I didn't read any of your previous posts as toxic. Feels weird for you to say you aren't going to be toxic, when I only saw disgruntlement.

You caught Sabi very clearly last game I saw you play, is this the same Sabi?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:37 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:35 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?

I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.

If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.

Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho

Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.

Hold on, why a difference check as opposed to "not teammates?"

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:42 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:34 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:25 pm @DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

Yis.

The diff check thing stands out to me, mainly because it's a VERY specific thing to see and claim exists.

Mac's claim of one is also based on 2 factors that can be false, unless he knows them to be true ofc. Which fills me with doubt. That also didn't feel like Confident Mac, it felt like tactical Mac.

Lily's claim on a check between Esooa and Mac I haven't seen reasoning for yet, but also seems strange, but less AI because of lessened context.

Lastly Esooa's take on it stands out to me as I see this as significant. I however know I see things as important sometimes that truly are nothing.

Simply put, I want more data.

I think these posts look kinda bad for Wilgy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:49 pm

I didn't read any of your previous posts as toxic. Feels weird for you to say you aren't going to be toxic, when I only saw disgruntlement.

You caught Sabi very clearly last game I saw you play, is this the same Sabi?

No sabi is a lot less wooden than she was in that game.

I called Sabi bad at mafia. I invited most of these players and wanted to foster a positive threadstate and almost immediately failed in my goal. That's all that statement is. I like this new robust and productive Wilgy. Keep it up.

Positivity shmozitivity.

Meh, still think your post was slightly wolfy.

Not as wolfy as ender, but just slight. I don't know if disheartened Mac uses the vernacular used. Like, perhaps disgruntlement as we saw, yes, but a shift and declared shift. This early? This time of day? This time of year? Isolated entirely within day 1?

You're asking what question exactly?

Does disheartened Mac make a claim that they are shifting in procedure due to toxicity that I didn't see present?

Or is this a means for wolf Mac to shift tone/narrative before things are out of his control?

The question only really exists because I disagree with you claimed there was something toxic in your tone/voice that I didn't see. It's a strange contradiction.

There was no such claim. I was getting annoyed by Sabi and said something nasty and was feeling inclined to continue it and chose not to. You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

probably

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:12 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:27 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:39 pm

AAAAAAAAAAH wolf Mac.

Sabi was right to SPECIFICALLY dislike kingmaker on the premise that MAC is king.

elaborate

I didn't read any of your previous posts as toxic. Feels weird for you to say you aren't going to be toxic, when I only saw disgruntlement.

You caught Sabi very clearly last game I saw you play, is this the same Sabi?

No sabi is a lot less wooden than she was in that game.

I called Sabi bad at mafia. I invited most of these players and wanted to foster a positive threadstate and almost immediately failed in my goal. That's all that statement is. I like this new robust and productive Wilgy. Keep it up.

Positivity shmozitivity.

Meh, still think your post was slightly wolfy.

Not as wolfy as ender, but just slight. I don't know if disheartened Mac uses the vernacular used. Like, perhaps disgruntlement as we saw, yes, but a shift and declared shift. This early? This time of day? This time of year? Isolated entirely within day 1?

probably good post

Why is this? Both Posrcha and Mac seemed to agree that I was making much of nothing.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:04 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:37 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:35 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am

I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.

If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.

Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho

Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.

Hold on, why a difference check as opposed to "not teammates?"

because there's always a wolf there if I'm right

Aye, so if you are right.

Meaning conditionally, Achro is T and Porscha is T then an actual diff check exists in this scenario?

Like, they're generally too softball with Mac and easy to fake.


And this last post is just something I found while going through this. Wilgy expressed an early townread of Esooa, particularly when pointing out the difference between his townread there and Mac's wolfread. Idk if this is that important but it's weird to ask why someone is town if you also townread them. Idk.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:50 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:42 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:34 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:25 pm @DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

Yis.

The diff check thing stands out to me, mainly because it's a VERY specific thing to see and claim exists.

Mac's claim of one is also based on 2 factors that can be false, unless he knows them to be true ofc. Which fills me with doubt. That also didn't feel like Confident Mac, it felt like tactical Mac.

Lily's claim on a check between Esooa and Mac I haven't seen reasoning for yet, but also seems strange, but less AI because of lessened context.

Lastly Esooa's take on it stands out to me as I see this as significant. I however know I see things as important sometimes that truly are nothing.

Simply put, I want more data.

I said any of that so long ago that I forgot why tbh

At this point esooa is obv town mac isn't that's all I know

Why is Esooa town?

Santy is probably a top suspect for the "deepwolf" if it's exactly Mac+Snow+Deepwolf.

I'm not willing to yeet Santy today unless he's the only viable counterwagon (and I don't think there's anyone I townread so hard as to not self preserve against. Maybe Sabi). I think there are some exchanges between Mac and Santy that look unteamed. But he is a player I previously scumread and with both Mac and Santy on the chopping block for awhile, it'd not impossible for the two of them to have worked to create some good distancing. He's also the player who is going after me the hardest.

An angle I might check with is how Santy specifically treated Mac D1. The initial reason for me suspecting Santy is because I felt like he was being too polite and too appeasy. Like he was trying to skate by and pocket rather than solve. Was he just as polite to Mac before Mac gathered suspicion?

This is another "if my fate is sealed" exercise that I would love if someone happened to have already done this work.

I want the "Porscha is bad at being a wolf" read to be correct. I want it to be correct so that I don't have to dig into Porscha.

The problem is that if it is correct, the wolves are like exactly Snow and someone who I am incorrectly reading town.

I've barely looked at Porscha. I might not bother looking at Porscha because Nanook, HK and Santy have all expressed unwillingness to vote there so it might be a flat waste of time. If I come out of everything with a townread on Snow, I'll likely dig into here under the idea that I'm probably dead in the water and maybe Porscha is the wolf and maybe if I go to the gallows screaming Porscha, people will look there and also find her. But for now, I don't have the energy to dig into a player that is probably just town and probably doesn't get yeeted over me anyway.

I still might take the time to go over my POE.

I'm feeling a little better on Nanook. Possibly undeserved. It's not out of Nanook's wolf range for him to lightly townread me, lightly poopoo pushes on me but ultimately tunnel a player who isn't going to get yeeted while also not stopping me from getting yeeted. He's a good enough wolf to do that. He knows me well enough and he knows HK well enough to do that. But my gut says that Nanook is town, here. You can go to me high profile townreading Nanook in our champs qualifier (6 or 7) early on and then putting him back in my POE and working out a (not really applicable to this game because it was based on nightkills, tbf) reason to suspect him but dying before I really acted on it. And you can see me incorrectly tunnel him for a bit in our champs semifinal before then going "Oh wait, Nanook is always town here, duh" when Achro pointed out that my case was exactly backwards. So....yeah. I have a mixed record of reading Nanook, especially lately and especially in mountainous. But I'd argue that I had him right both times in the end and while I'm not certain, I do think this is town Nanook. I don't think it's because his tunnel on HK is particularly townie. I think his reaction to HK is an understandable one. The meta lines up from certain points of view to say HK is a wolf. HK keeps throwing fits and Nanook (like myself) is one to flat reject ATE. So it's less "This is town indicative for Nanook" wrt HK and more "this is not wolf indicative for Nanook." I think the way he has treated me is townie, though. We had similar (bad) experiences in semis this year and gets my mindset of being burnt out. He's not saying I'm town but he is knocking down bad arguments for me to be a wolf and since those are most of the arguments...

If I look here further, it'll be wrt how Nanook treated Mac and how Mac treated Nanook. I wouldn't mind anyone who has already done that work to point me in that direction.

I still have a pretty strong townread on Wilgy

So like legit? Fuck that. I'll do my best for certain values of best but I'm not gonna play another mountainous game where many players suspect me for pretty surface level reasons and I work my tail off to find the wolves and get no results and no credit for it. That was awful the first time.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:37 am Like imo if u just read my interactions with mac and esooa's interactions with mac day 1 and 2 it clears us. It's not partners and there's literally 0 benefit to play like that in a game of this volume. I think wolves are just staying FAR apart

Lily probably most town-thing in Queek's POE but Queek is frustrated Lily says things that would make you think she is not voting for Queek but she is. Idiot-fool flower-thing.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:20 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:35 pm Queek has a full day left to sort-catch wolf-thing(s?) in snow, nanook, porscha and lily.

Easy task for Queek Headtaker, mightiest-best of all skaven!

This for example, I feel like you are not working much in this?

As in, I come noe and you were asking about Porscha. Snow is probably your cw by how Day has pased so you sorting if ris is town or not should be like... Vital to you if you want to solve9

No give orders to Queek! You want Queek solve in Queek's POE? Quit bothering Queek with silly-stupid questions. You should know Queek is town-thing already.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:16 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:28 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:27 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:26 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:24 am @Esooa I call for a truce while we all vote santygrass

idk

why

this is me

extending you

an olive branch

you scumread him

you scumread me

help me bus

just not really sure why you've decided to do this

there are legit so many reasons

This is thing Queek only says when he is town-thing. But for beard-thing? Probably says it as wolf-thing about town-thing only.

Queek is frustrated by beard-thing's iso.

Can you elaborate why you were frustrated here?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:18 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:03 pm Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

I think nook already asked, but they had another discussion after. What do you think of old-thing replies regarding this? Your read on Old-Thing in general would help me, yes-yes

Queek frustrated that beard-thing's iso does not show obvious other wolf-things. Is frustrating to you, too, yes-yes?

Old-thing probably still town. Queek does not listen to old-thing and nook-thing chatter-shriek about meta. Secret old-thing tell somewhat a joke any way-way.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:10 am Porscha is town-town. Look how they shade Mac at SoD for the Visor Kill. And in their ISO they just have a lot of towny thoughts. Protecc Frog-thing

Hmm. Queek *chokes* *coughs* *retches* thank you

Bleh.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:09 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:21 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:52 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:50 am There is no wolf motivation to hard tr Mac like that esp when he's about to die

My point is how Mac gave their legacy list, with a mood of death.

And when Neon/hk/jack came in thread , the three of them tring him, their mood swinged. Do you think all those three slots are town sabi?

Beard-thing should know that Queek and old-thing are going to come back and if they are being bus-yeeted or not.

Change in beard-thing is because support was unexpected. One wolf-thing in that group at most.

Mac : *Whines or pings in scumchat saying they are going to die*
Partners: 'Nah fam we got you'

That is possible, yes-yes?
And if you look at the votecounts for a GOOD part of the day I seemed like the one who was going over tbh, I had like 7 votes against 3 or smth like that iirc, so Mac wasnt that obv of a lynch fmpov

Possible. But not if Queek is wolf-thing. Queek rides to beard-thing's rescue like noble-stupid man-thing, yes-yes?

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:11 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:38 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:24 am [VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

going to bed gl town

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:53 am Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (5) - Esooa, DrWilgy, santygrass, Achro, riisinq-
Santygrass (5) - Sabiplz, Jack, hollowkatt, Neon, Porscha
Hollowkatt (3) - Nanook, Lilypetal, MacDougall

*confused rat noises*

And this?

No conclusions, disgusting elf-thing. That's why Queek is confused.

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:01 am Like Nook, you had read Jack in sf3 in D2 / D3 where he was one of the main sus. I know that comparing will be like, with a lot less effort here, but you think they have similar approachs in this games?

It's like a recurring nightmare and gimmick is a self defense mechanism yes-yes.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:46 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:45 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:35 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:17 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:11 am No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Wowee

Guess you're gonna have to vote me, im uninterested in being dictated to about who I can and cannot talk about

It's anti-town to bog down the game thread by you two ego fighting for three game days.

It literally kills everyone's wim.

So yes I will policy vote you for restarting it.

Now look at other slots. There's 9 for you to focus on.

Is only bad for town-things if we all ignore old-thing and nook-thing because cat-thing say so or because we assume things are unsortable.

Only problem with old-thing and nook-thing fight is old-thing and nook-thing not solving other slots as much.

Seal-thing (im rebranding) has a town core he feels comfortable with

Tell Queek now-now!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:32 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:30 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:29 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:25 am nook do you think jack has wolf equity or am I being obtuse just cuz mac was being defensive about his slot

I mean, nothing hes done has really moved him out of poe for me, i would probably not kill him today cause I do think there's a decent chance mac mightve spewed him town and he does tend towards bussing/distancing, but

Don't really have an independent TR on him so I'm landing on high poe I think

if you had to kill outside of hk then who would you kill today?

Probably ris, off hand

My townreads are currently sabi/santy/porscha/wilgy/esooa, really anyone outside that group is *fine*

Talk to Queek about Porscha. Why is Porscha town-thing? Queek keeps asking and no-things will say-say.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:31 am tbh if im being completely real with u i think wolves imagined that mac would go over either early day 2 or like mid day 2. Because of this i think we might be misclearing or giving credit to those that pushed hard on day 2 rather than day 1. That's why I originally stated that Esooa and I were cleared a lot harder because we were pushing at a point where a partner pushing is -EV

So stop voting me-me.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:28 am its really hard for me to know if jack is a hit or not cuz of the gimmick ngl

Lazy-fool. What does Queek being skaven have to do with Queek being town-thing or wolf-thing? Do you have good reason to think Queek is wolf-thing or not?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:45 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:35 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:17 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:11 am No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Wowee

Guess you're gonna have to vote me, im uninterested in being dictated to about who I can and cannot talk about

It's anti-town to bog down the game thread by you two ego fighting for three game days.

It literally kills everyone's wim.

So yes I will policy vote you for restarting it.

Now look at other slots. There's 9 for you to focus on.

Is only bad for town-things if we all ignore old-thing and nook-thing because cat-thing say so or because we assume things are unsortable.

Only problem with old-thing and nook-thing fight is old-thing and nook-thing not solving other slots as much.

Seal-thing (im rebranding) has a town core he feels comfortable with

Tell Queek now-now!

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:36 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:34 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:32 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:52 am Going to signal boost Jack not voting btw

Normal for Jack yeah?

No? At least with how they were playing til today

Idiot-things misremember Queek meta as a team effort.

I am not going by Meat, going by the fact that at this point in D1 and D2 you already voted tbh.

Queek votes for wolf-things to signal boost reads. Or Queek votes at EOD. Queek has no confident wolf-thing reads and it is not EOD. So what is unusual? Why should things take note that Queek hasn't voted yet-yet? What does that mean for Queek?

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:33 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:31 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:15 am

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:03 am hmm, how do i prove that i'm not paired with santy so that sabi can reevaluate their poe....

you pretty much can't after santy turned into a vest made out of kevlar for you and you said thank you very much sir

Oof. If Snow-thing is not a wolf-thing, this post is bad-bad.

I think it's a pretty accurate representation of this entire day

What is accurate?

What Porscha says? Porscha's posts being bad-bad? The whole day-day?

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:34 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:32 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:52 am Going to signal boost Jack not voting btw

Normal for Jack yeah?

No? At least with how they were playing til today

Idiot-things misremember Queek meta as a team effort.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:17 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:11 am No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Wowee

Guess you're gonna have to vote me, im uninterested in being dictated to about who I can and cannot talk about

It's anti-town to bog down the game thread by you two ego fighting for three game days.

It literally kills everyone's wim.

So yes I will policy vote you for restarting it.

Now look at other slots. There's 9 for you to focus on.

Is only bad for town-things if we all ignore old-thing and nook-thing because cat-thing say so or because we assume things are unsortable.

Only problem with old-thing and nook-thing fight is old-thing and nook-thing not solving other slots as much.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:15 am

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:03 am hmm, how do i prove that i'm not paired with santy so that sabi can reevaluate their poe....

you pretty much can't after santy turned into a vest made out of kevlar for you and you said thank you very much sir

Oof. If Snow-thing is not a wolf-thing, this post is bad-bad.

@hollowkatt

Old-thing forget to say why-why Porscha is town-thing. Tell Queek, now.

Only idiot-things think Queek is a wolf-thing, here. Queek sees bias and lies. Queek does not see good solving from town-things.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:13 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:42 pm Like,even if Mac flipped town how Jack voted at EoD is bad. And in general is bad fwiw.

Probably should relook at some post from EoD that maybe I confbiased as circlejrking or something with hollowkatt tho, cuz at that moment I wanted Mac's blood and they were in my way

yes I agree with the general shielding of each other but I also know that jack was riding the "santy is wolf" wave all of day 1 day 2 and only put you as town now. could have been a fake reason for his voting on you instead of mac

Porscha: Queek suspects Santy BEFORE wagon on beard-thing.

Also Porscha: Maybe Queek fake thinks Santy is wolf-thing only to avoid voting beard-thing.

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:03 am hmm, how do i prove that i'm not paired with santy so that sabi can reevaluate their poe....

Queek has idea.

Queek has no wolf-thing team. Entire POE is voting Queek and has been voting or scumreading Queek since before beard-thing flipped.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:42 pm Like,even if Mac flipped town how Jack voted at EoD is bad. And in general is bad fwiw.

Probably should relook at some post from EoD that maybe I confbiased as circlejrking or something with hollowkatt tho, cuz at that moment I wanted Mac's blood and they were in my way

Maybe?

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:02 pm tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

I could see it, but like the fact that Jack acted in such a pro-Mac way without stating a good reason to townreading him lr shielding him is very bad IMO. Like when they were wagoned but not so much as them seeing like they were going over , I feel like Jack just voted in a cw and didnt care to shield tbat townread if it was silent or something.

And then EoD D2 happened that felt really opportunistic from Jack to appear at that time and be available for the flashwagons you know, to even flashwagon Esooa who was a townread from them before

Hmm, yes-yes. Town Jack never gut townreads wolf-things early game for reasons other townies don't like. This also good-good reasoning.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:31 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:12 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:57 pm @Porscha did you read my case on Mac/Jack D2? I quoted it at SoD today. I am asking cuz you asked opinions on your Jack Iso or smth. And that have most of my thoughts regarding Jack tbh

I probs did I likely just forgot due to your quote posts being long bois. summary?

Smh if you have the time I think its best to read it, its good I swear.

Summary is prob Jack pushes consisting on a empty argument+sheeping another read, and always in a wagon that was opposite of Mac. Like there is a high amount of lowkey shielding Mac without expressing a proper townread on him.
D1 Voted HK when wagons were Mac/Hk/Me? Iirc going byy D1 I dont have votecounts. In D2 their vote in me put us at 4-r with Mac.
Another thing to note is how in D2 their reads were opposite almost from Mac (tr Esooa/hk, sus me) and still Mac townread them, which didnt make sense at all.
So both tr each other while not making mucj sense is policy worthy

Hmm, yes-yes. Town-things never disagree on reads with players they also think are town-things. Only wolf-things townread players who don't have the same reads as then.

Good-good policy.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:37 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:33 pm Old-thing @hollowkatt, what thinks you of Porscha? You forgot-forgot her.

it's easy to forget my slot exists when i'm locktown with no thread pull for too long

Harder to forget you when you're stuck on Queek's back.

Queek has a full day left to sort-catch wolf-thing(s?) in snow, nanook, porscha and lily.

Easy task for Queek Headtaker, mightiest-best of all skaven!

Old-thing @hollowkatt, what thinks you of Porscha? You forgot-forgot her.

But glow-thing is probably town-town.

Hard to argue with that-that.

Even if old-thing is a wolf, that POE plus Nook-thing should have other wolf. And if HK not wolf-thing, that POE plus Nook-thing contains both wolves.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:21 pm My legacy is no scum team is going to grant me the mercy of death so I will see you all tomorrow.

Thank you, fish-thing. Very helpful.

Stupid idiot-fool. Thing deserved to die-die.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:52 pm btw if you guys are confused about the toxic gamestate, i'm almost certain it's just a jack wolf world and we're all sitting here twiddling our thumbs getting pissy with one another because the reality is that today really just needed a short day to hammer obvious jack wolf. all mafia players devolve into lunatic degeneracy when they are left to their own devices for too long (see: asmr and dizzy win)

or whichever GOC it was when Alison was the last non-town player standing and all we had to do was chop her.

tbh I'll vote for jack today

What changed, old-thing?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:52 pm btw if you guys are confused about the toxic gamestate, i'm almost certain it's just a jack wolf world and we're all sitting here twiddling our thumbs getting pissy with one another because the reality is that today really just needed a short day to hammer obvious jack wolf. all mafia players devolve into lunatic degeneracy when they are left to their own devices for too long (see: asmr and dizzy win)

Why is Queek "obvious wolf-thing?"

Queek has not randed wolf in almost a year. Queek tell you what he told SF3 players. Queek busses when wolf. Does not limp defend and then not even vote to save teammates.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:03 pm Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:38 pm @Jackofhearts2005 Sorry if you already replied or did this. But do you have an actual readlist rn?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:38 pm Good reasons to think town-things
Cat-thing Sabi
Santy

Not so good-good reasons to think town-things
Old-thing HK
Esooa

Queek doesn’t want to deal with
Nanook
Lily

Queek needs to read
Ice-thing
Glow-thing <----seems unpaired w/beard-thing to Queek
Wilgy <----seems unpaired w/beard-thing to Queek. ish
Porscha

Queek go play Persona now-now. Refresh thread if more talk-speaking to do.

Queek update readlist a little bit with orange.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:39 pm Also, do y'all think that Achro would be Nked if he were townreading both mafia members that are left?

No-no.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:49 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:46 pm @Sabiplz

What thinks you of Nanook?

He's null. His tunnel on HK is towny but he hasn't town told.

Why is it towny?

@Sabiplz

What thinks you of Nanook?