The Syndicate

Also [VOTE: Marcher Jovian] aubergine because Wilgy isn't going to last as a wagon, so it's the better self-pres option.

I'm probably going to be asleep very soon.

A vote for me is a vote for communism. Don't vote me.

Again, for post flip:

The wolf on my wagon is likely one of nutella or dunya, outside shot to bronana I guess.

From my perspective, this nutella/dunya dichotomy doesn't feel w/w.

Just saying this for any people in the future isoing me or them. (Hi, future people. Hope the game is going well.)

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:37 pm Hi. I didn't really catch-up, why is Master Radishes top voted?

They hate me cuz they ain't me.

Jumping into a different convo for a sec:

Lissa I get what you mean about KZA and I think it's an accurate assessment. I also don't think it makes him scum. I could be wrong - I only know his meta in a specific forum's context - but I don't think making him a D1 yeet again is a good idea. Give him time to sort himself; if he's scum I think it'll become more apparent as the game goes on.

Dunya, same question.

Hey nutella, let's say I'm town. Where are you looking next? Who's the wolf nudging my wagon along?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:23 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:20 pm I have no idea when EoD is but I think it's fairly soon. I probably won't be here unless it's now or close to now.
eod is in 2 hours

Thanks.

I won't be here. It'll be midnight-thirty for me and I'm exhausted.

I formally recommend against a Kaz lynch. I reserve the right to rescind this recommendation in the future.

I have no idea when EoD is but I think it's fairly soon. I probably won't be here unless it's now or close to now.

My voters are currently:

Bronana - tbh I'd need to iso before I force a read here
Turnip Head - hard to get a sense of; I liked the feel of most of his posts, though I do find his casing of me...a bit simple - but overall still considering this a town slot
Nutella - just not at all playing in a pro-town way at the moment; overly justifying her read on me and acting over confident about it
dunya - apparently didn't mind me and also scumread nutella, so why am I seeing her on this list? I'm not sure what to make of that
tutuu - just sheeping everything with a pulse but very open about it so still a townread

Like, this is still nutella. Shading me but only voting me after others have done so? Add it to the pile of reasons she's a woof.

Moving my vote to [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine for now out of self-pres and because it's a bleh slot that isn't a big loss, whereas Marcher is...I mean, I don't find him very townie, but I also don't know him and want him to not die super early in his first Syndicate game.

Like, take it or leave it guys, but I didn't think this game was going to start so soon when I signed up, and this has been a busy week of work for me and I've been in another game and all that.

Whoever is town amongst my voters better promise to feel shame when they see my flip.

Turnip is doing it too, thinking he can read me off meta from like two games together. I don't even remember anything he did in those games, personally.

I'm finding this weirdly annoying, because I don't think these people trying to meta read me on little meta are even wolves.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:02 pm We had like 3 games here + 1 offsite

And in that one you town read me early as well iirc and you were scum

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:05 pm I think there’s a decent chance you’re just town that finds it hard to find the motivation, although that isn’t clearing on its own, because you didn’t have the drive as a mafia either.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:37 pm Although I think the action of slanking and making up excuses has been used by MR almost every time as scum, this time it does feel different in a way that I can’t really describe.

I appreciate you seeing the truth of me and all, but can you stop thinking you have a book of meta on me? 3 or 4 games isn't enough to start making catch-all claims about what I do as scum 'every time' or whatever. Every game we've played has been within a different personal context of mine, and I don't think 'consistent' is the word anyone who knows me would use to describe my play across games as either alignment.

One thing I don't do is slank 'on purpose' as a strategy. If I'm not really engaged or motivated that's just it at face value.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:55 pm [VOTE: master radishes] aubergine

I think he and ted are compatible but I'm feeling slightly more forgiving to ted atm

The continued rl excuses/slank cover feels simultaneously like it should be NAI and yet also guilt-trip/"just give me another couple phases to skate by" in a slimy way.

My one reservation is I worry he'd have put in more effort to look legitimately solvey if scum (based on how he successfully pocketed me in the Covid game by looking supertownish) but if he doesn't have the availability to do so regardless I can't just give him a pass.

He has given very limited content and what he has given in the way of reads feel forced imo. My gut says this is a hit.

This took 100 words to justify a vote on me for 'being not very present'. It's OTT.

The last line is particularly smelly.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:00 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:53 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:38 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:36 pm what do you think of monsieur radishes
Him town reading me is bad but other than that I don’t have much to add
oh so you suspect me cos i townread u too?
Being weary of pockets, I expect wolves to either side with me or ignore the whole deal

W/r/t MR it wasn’t about this though, he has a history of tunneling me when he’s town so his town read on me, especially that early and for reasons that I already forgot was kind of bad

It’s different from my assessment of you

It’s not even a hard scum read I just wanna keep myself in check to actually read you for stuff other than your defence of me

I have read approximately 4 slots, which I’ve given my reads on already.

'History' is a strong word. It was one game.

Like how come no one sees nutella howling?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:06 pm TonyStarkPrime
Turnip Head
tutuu

Town
Town
Town

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:02 pm Sloonei
Soneji
tedxtr

Town
Town
Town

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:00 pm NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella
outed wolf

Town
Mafia
Mafia

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:58 pm Master Radishes
moth
motobot

Town
Town
Town

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:55 pm Long Con
MacDougall
Marcher Jovian

Town
Town
Mafia

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:50 pm Meh, whatever. If you feel like giving reads, give reads. If you don't, carry on with your business.

No null reads allowed. You must commit to either a town or mafia read.

bronana
Carotenoid
DrWilgy

Town
Town
Town

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:53 pm dunya
KZA
Lissa

Town
Town
Town

Like, I get it, I've done pretty much nothing so far. But I did explain in a previous post that this is entirely due to outside factors keeping me from being able to focus on this game. I am trying to keep up with the general gist of the thread, and I'm popping in to shitpost a bit for funsies, but I've just not had the time to devote to playing seriously yet. And that's not going to change much between now and EoD (the time of which I'm not entirely sure, but likely falls after I've gone to bed.)

I was looking forward to playing with a few new (to me) faces, so maybe this is the kick I need to force an effort in a bid to survive? But I'm making dinner, and then eating dinner, and then chilling with my wife, and so I promise nothing. Should I make it to D2, I will endeavour my utmost to do more. (And by D3 I should be gaining momentum.) If I don't, then c'est la mafia.

Oh hey people are talking about me. No wonder my ears were burning.

bronana wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:35 am I changed my vote to master radishes. Aubergine

Reconsidering my read on ted, thinking I might be wrong, at the very least want to see how he plays d2

I'll show you where to stick that aubergine you little son of a...

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:39 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:37 pm Actually it's my weekend now so what does EVERYONE want, I will deliver in the most KZA way possible
Tim Hortons

I told you guys she's scum.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:39 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:14 pm I just isoed MR. You guys are right, he's fluff posting too much.

@Master Radishes stop that. You're a bad radish. A bad radish.
god the part in italics made me laugh irl. Seeing that you're british and imagining you saying that out loud with a british accents makes it even more golden

MR is light town read
He's actually Canadian but lives in the UK so I don't think he has a British accent sorry lol
you bloody wot mate? this is bloody outrageous. *stomps foot*

i will not stand for this. MR you wanker. my disappointment is immeasurable and my day has been ruined

I don't mind if you imagine me with a British accent.

I just isoed MR. You guys are right, he's fluff posting too much.

[mention]Master Radishes[/mention] stop that. You're a bad radish. A bad radish.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:55 pm radishes on topic to off topic post ratio is like 1:10

i know i shouldnt judge him based on his 1 champs game where he was very town, but like i didn't expect so much fluff but also like, he makes the game fun and less unbearable so...

Yeah I know.

Just a combo of work, other games, etc. I fully intend to pick up my game more as we progress.

In the mean time I'll exist to make the game fun for you.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:55 pm but radish supports liverpool, so we can lynch him any time tbh.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:08 pm nutella keeps making posts that exude pure emotion (imo), again and again, @Master Radishes. IDK, I could be wrong, but I think that you are wrong to say that she is faking it

What is she emoting exactly?

And anyway, I don't think I said she was faking emotion. She feels like she's faking her attitude.

I can say more later, but speaking of emotion Liverpool are CHAMPIONS YAAASSSSSSS!

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:55 pm tutu and moth are town core

i need allies

I read all three of you as town. I'll be an ally.

Wait, do I have to read the whole marcher/you thing? Because I've just been skipping past all that.

Yeah, okay, [VOTE: nutella] aubergine then.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:22 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:21 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:21 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:20 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:17 pm Yes thanks for understanding, I hate being a push and hate being the D1 push, leave me alone please and thank you

I'm very much tilted that I got piled on without being offered anything remotely close to an explanation as to why I'm wrong even though Marcher clearly bullshited the read there but I guess that's okay

still, the idea that someone could contain their nervousness in a wolf chat for a town read is pretty damn silly for a villager to make and reeks of TMI
You've been offered explanations you're just refusing to see it another way from how you tunnel-interpreted it
Are you still scum reading me?
on balance yes

you could be a tunneled townie but like. try to be helpful. your continued refusal to talk about anything else is anti-town
nutella town from this post tbh. and the one above that was @ master radishes

towny frustration. at least imo its pure

Nah I'm going the opposite direction. She's putting it on a bit. I just haven't decided if it's because she's probably a wolf or because she's definitely a wolf.

Nutella we mindmelded last we played - what happened?

(Like, okay, I was scum in that one, but the reads we shared were ones I felt were legit and would make anyway if I had been town.)

This concerns me.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:16 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:14 pm I could vote for Lissa. I don't think Ted is bad I think he's just tilted and needs to regain perspective.
Ehhhhhhh could be.

Should I trust you tho

Tell me about your bronana vote

and any other strong feelings you have

My instant reaction is I don't like this post.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:14 pm I could vote for Lissa. I don't think Ted is bad I think he's just tilted and needs to regain perspective.

My instant reaction is to like this post.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:06 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:05 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:01 pm
I gotta re-evaluate Zach at some point.

I don't really town read Carot, but I don't have any hard reasoning to believe she's scum either.
radishes has 48 posts. that's a good chunk. since i've been on, apart from the failed GTH exercise, he's been posting mostly fluff stuff. what do you make of him in this game?
Can I answer...?
you can tell me what you think of nutella.

Tasty but overrated.

I also did include a little write up in my reads post, but sure, I can reiterate: I haven't decided yet. I can't say she's said a single thing of consequence and, if anything, is kind of exhibiting a sort of fake confidence on minor reads that I'm not sure I'm buying. But she's not done anything I'd say is scummy. I've never seen her wolf game so I'm trapped into not being able to ignore my limited meta but not having a full picture of it to compare this game to.

How the F did I get to 50 posts anyway. Like, what have I been saying? I don't remember any of it. :/

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:01 pm
I gotta re-evaluate Zach at some point.

I don't really town read Carot, but I don't have any hard reasoning to believe she's scum either.
radishes has 48 posts. that's a good chunk. since i've been on, apart from the failed GTH exercise, he's been posting mostly fluff stuff. what do you make of him in this game?

Can I answer...?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:55 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:46 pm wow what happened to linki in this forum?
it was turned off for the game bc ppl were complaining about it lol

People from other sites where the feature doesn't exist tend to find it a touch frustrating. It's like you're constantly being spoken over when you're trying to say something.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:37 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:45 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:32 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:30 pm Just an FYI, I do intend to play this game seriously. Some day. Just...not right now. Busy drowning in work. (I didn't think the game would start so soon.)

I can do lazy GTH reads if anyone wants, but they'd be kind of worthless at this point.
Lay it on me brother.
Without double checking things, just impressions:

Townie:
Moth - because he just doesn't seem to care how he comes across
tedxtr - being insightful yet a bit cautious (in a good way) in his outlook on the people he's interacted with
KZA - meta read; we've played together plenty and he sounds comfortable here
tutuu - perhaps mistaking 'fun' for 'townie' but I like them so far

Townie I guess?
bronana - mainly based on presence; not sure I've yet seen anything that makes me slot you higher than this
Nook - slanking D1 is his MO; when I scummed with him he was in the background but always nudging things in certain directions on D1, and he's not doing that here
TSP - responding to a big post with just 'bad' is vintage TSP
Mac - seems jovial enough to be town, but nothing that isn't fakeable tbh

Hmmmmm:
Nutella & Sloonei - tbh I kind of want to agree with both of them; meta-wise, neither has yet convinced me I'm seeing the town version of themselves (but I'm not calling this w/w) - needs further observation
Marcher - seems to be forcing things
Carotenoid - seems a bit hesitant, like putting a toe in the water but not fully committing yet

Not going to force anyone into a scum read.

Not going to comment on anyone else even though I've noticed them post a few times, e.g. Lissa, Turnip Head, etc. If I don't have solid meta I'm not going to hedge a read until I think about it properly.
that aint how GTH works pal

You don't know what I did or didn't put to my head.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:20 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:15 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:09 pm at some point before this phase is over we should do some GTH stuff.
Why do we need to?
because i think it helps coordinate reads, but i don't want that to happen too early in the day.
I mean, more often than not we do these things naturally. I don't see why you needed to announce it.
thinking out loud.

Ed Sheeran did that for us already.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:15 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:09 pm at some point before this phase is over we should do some GTH stuff.
Why do we need to?
because i think it helps coordinate reads, but i don't want that to happen too early in the day.

I mean, more often than not we do these things naturally. I don't see why you needed to announce it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:09 pm at some point before this phase is over we should do some GTH stuff.

Why do we need to?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:48 pm Talk some more about kza, Señor Radish.

Swell guy.

Likes anime.

Was once a cactus.

Has a strong town game, and, in fact, is the resident expert on Canucks.com at finding scum in D1. (Lately, he hasn't lived very long after that.) Doesn't rand scum often and it is his weaker alignment to play.

Until Champs this year, where he was unjustly misyeeted D1 because of culture clash, he hasn't played off site as far as I know. Thus I expect him to come into this game...not hesitant or anything, but perhaps a little less sure in himself than when on familiar ground. He won't be able to rely on meta, which forms a vital core of his strong D1 reads on CDC.

So far he's been light and breezy but trying to poke a bit, albeit maybe not effectively. But basically he seems comfortable enough considering he's surrounded by strangers, some of whom have a bit of a pedigree.

(There is a bit of a chance his scum game will be better here because of those same factors, of course.)

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:32 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:30 pm Just an FYI, I do intend to play this game seriously. Some day. Just...not right now. Busy drowning in work. (I didn't think the game would start so soon.)

I can do lazy GTH reads if anyone wants, but they'd be kind of worthless at this point.
Lay it on me brother.

Without double checking things, just impressions:

Townie:
Moth - because he just doesn't seem to care how he comes across
tedxtr - being insightful yet a bit cautious (in a good way) in his outlook on the people he's interacted with
KZA - meta read; we've played together plenty and he sounds comfortable here
tutuu - perhaps mistaking 'fun' for 'townie' but I like them so far

Townie I guess?
bronana - mainly based on presence; not sure I've yet seen anything that makes me slot you higher than this
Nook - slanking D1 is his MO; when I scummed with him he was in the background but always nudging things in certain directions on D1, and he's not doing that here
TSP - responding to a big post with just 'bad' is vintage TSP
Mac - seems jovial enough to be town, but nothing that isn't fakeable tbh

Hmmmmm:
Nutella & Sloonei - tbh I kind of want to agree with both of them; meta-wise, neither has yet convinced me I'm seeing the town version of themselves (but I'm not calling this w/w) - needs further observation
Marcher - seems to be forcing things
Carotenoid - seems a bit hesitant, like putting a toe in the water but not fully committing yet

Not going to force anyone into a scum read.

Not going to comment on anyone else even though I've noticed them post a few times, e.g. Lissa, Turnip Head, etc. If I don't have solid meta I'm not going to hedge a read until I think about it properly.

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