The Syndicate

nice work, gg!

Yeah we can as long as it's just a "gg" post without any game related info! ^^

*waves happily*

Have a good game! See you all in the DVC, hopefully mostly wolves!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:43 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:42 pm Imagine moving votes 18 minutes before EOD.

I'm out. I've said everything I need to say extremely loudly. If you guys want to play games with the vote count instead of just killing the wolves then have fun.

So melodramatic

You know CFDs are my pet peeve and I was already in a bad mood coming into this game.

Imagine moving votes 18 minutes before EOD.

I'm out. I've said everything I need to say extremely loudly. If you guys want to play games with the vote count instead of just killing the wolves then have fun.

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:34 pm like people are calling Wiml sus when he's the only one who seems to actively care about solving Transcend's alignment

i dunno

If Transcend is red then trying to get people to re-eval on him is suspicious. Mindlessly dogpiling him is townie. That is why I said to turbo Wiml if Transcend flips red.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:34 pm ender I think is town

How come

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:29 pm I no longer care about the 5% or whatever possibility of Transcend being town. I just want him dead. He is a massive liability even if he is green and he is most likely red.

^ For those who are worried about him flipping green.

He has explicitly stated he is not trying any more and has lost his WIM. He has explicitly stated that he has faked the hammer. There is no universe where this guy benefits town if he survives. He is at best the third impostor and most likely just a regular impostor.

I no longer care about the 5% or whatever possibility of Transcend being town. I just want him dead. He is a massive liability even if he is green and he is most likely red.

Turbo Wiml if Transcend flips wolf. No excuses.

After saying he has to flip today ten times you move to the first available counterwagon. Why?

Wiml give me one good reason you are not voting Transcend.

If Transcend does not go over today you will all feel my wrath. I guarantee it. You better all switch back.

Wiml can be a Transcend partner because of telling him not to self vote and shifting off here. Add him to my legacy.

Stop CFDing random crap. Vote Transcend. He also has been whimpering about wanting to die today so town re evals tomorrow and he votes the biggest counterwagon opportunistically.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first

Legacy is as follows.

If Transcend flips green re-evaluate everything obviously.

I'll just park on Transcend and catch up tomorrow, w/e

oh my god EOD is in an hour I didn't realize

Bye for now.

Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first

Cool so he's committing to voteparking sleep. He is fully outed now. He is probably quiet to minimize spew.

I am not in a great mood atm and am likely going to chill for a bit. Sorry for being late in catching up. My vote won't change today.

I think Transcend is outed because he was so happy to get the wagon off him and then when I came back online and buried him he went silent and his two word response to Wiml telling him not to self vote seemed really dejected.

I will be catching up when I feel like reading 20 pages but I think it is extraordinarily silly to clear him for this shit.

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:58 pm

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm @JaggedJimmyJay jagg

I'm hammered now flip me

Next game just sheep esooa on me. Good luck tomorrow <3

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will

what do you make of this, Alison?

There is also no way that he believes that a scum Alexa who has gone deep would decided to randomly out to snipe hammer the easiest misexe in the universe. It's all performative and I can't believe you guys are dumb enough to fall for it.

Vote Transcend.

I am committing to vote parking Transcend until he dies for that self hammer BS. Even if he really believed it was a hammer, it's exactly what you do when you're mafia who can't dig yourself out of a hole, you antispew for a bit and self hammer and cut the day short.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:57 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:53 pm I don't feel like reading right now. Can someone tell me why Transcend is not top wagon any more?

Ur other wolf read is

In fact ur top two wolves r competing

Why is this ur reaction

I figured if u saw us competing you'd be quite joyous

Because overnight I was starting to think that the team could be you and Ender.

1) There is no way he really thinks that this is a hammer game, nanook has already explicitly commented on the lack of hammer.

2) Self hammering is wolfy, not townie, because it cuts the day short.

3) Self hammering yourself without it being a hammer is extremely performative.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:56 pm - Transcend "self hammers" himself but there's obviously no hammer.

So he's outed wolf?

I don't feel like reading right now. Can someone tell me why Transcend is not top wagon any more?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:15 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:14 am Mac ignoring my tunnel on him is feelsbad.

It only stings when it comes from a townie. If it's his partner doing it he doesn't care because it's all prearranged in scum chat.

This entire game you have felt like Esooa trying and failing to role-play as Alison.

I shall take that as a compliment.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:14 am Mac ignoring my tunnel on him is feelsbad.

It only stings when it comes from a townie. If it's his partner doing it he doesn't care because it's all prearranged in scum chat.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:09 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:07 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:05 am now Alison and Transcend are both tunneling town mac. Strange and dark times my friends.

I am voting your strongest wolfread and have stated intent to give you space if he flips red.

Doesn't mean you weren't tunneling me. Endless tunnels everywhere I turn. I predict @alexa to be the next to tunnel me.

Mac is being a baby. Alexa, tunnel him.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:05 am now Alison and Transcend are both tunneling town mac. Strange and dark times my friends.

I am voting your strongest wolfread and have stated intent to give you space if he flips red.

Transcend has now called two people "really good" at reading him. I believe this to be a pocket attempt. Frankly if I was a townie being run down by the rest of the game and the people that usually shield me are turning against me, I would suspect them of being wolves in on it. But no. He pleads with them and towncores them. This is a pocket.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:54 am I disagree.

What happened to "I am going to act like a rodeo clown and spam all over the place until it is 3 hours to EOD then everyone sheep me and I'll give you a pelt"?

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:50 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:47 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:43 am @Alison @Esooa

How much experience do you both have with wolf!mac? It seems like ur both the best readers of him and the two he fears the most in here, are you both confident he’s well within scumrange?

What are ur current stances on him rn, town/null/scum?

If I miscleared someone he’s probably it, and I have another reason to ask this but I’ll get to it later closer to eod

Yes, I am confident he's well within scumrange. Every tactic he has employed in this game to seem townie has been a tactic I have personally witnessed him use as mafia.

I think he's scummy. I'm holding out judgement until we flip Transcend, since he has a point about being unlikely to bus there, so a Transcend red flip would go some way towards making him look better. (I also think Ender's latest "we're heading to a D1 misexe :/" stance is compatible with being partners with Transcend and would look there first if Transcend flips wolf.)

i was thinking the opposite actually, and he was crackpot theory #2 and honestly i was gonna hold out until closer to eod to state but now u lit a spark in me after that comment which got me a lil excited so im jsut gonna say it anyways

I do not understand what you are saying here.

your catchup*

I'm interested in your Mac read, Transcend. Update me on it when you finish my catchup.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:44 am well you're the one saying that you're comfortable with the thread and the traction that it has rn

and i'm warning u that u probably shouldn't be comfortable

that's ur prerogative whether u want to listen to me or not, i can't force u to

I think you are a wolf and I choose not to listen to you.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:43 am @Alison @Esooa

How much experience do you both have with wolf!mac? It seems like ur both the best readers of him and the two he fears the most in here, are you both confident he’s well within scumrange?

What are ur current stances on him rn, town/null/scum?

If I miscleared someone he’s probably it, and I have another reason to ask this but I’ll get to it later closer to eod

Yes, I am confident he's well within scumrange. Every tactic he has employed in this game to seem townie has been a tactic I have personally witnessed him use as mafia.

I think he's scummy. I'm holding out judgement until we flip Transcend, since he has a point about being unlikely to bus there, so a Transcend red flip would go some way towards making him look better. (I also think Ender's latest "we're heading to a D1 misexe :/" stance is compatible with being partners with Transcend and would look there first if Transcend flips wolf.)

Why don't you continue with your reread instead of constantly repeating that you are a misexe? The more you do it, the more I scumread you. Helps nobody and is extremely manipulative in the way it attempts to both push an emotional narrative ("I'm being bullied by these complacent townies") and preys on the paranoia of people like Ender.

In case it isn't obvious I disagree with much of what Transcend is saying and doing in his catchup and it has only reinforced my belief that he is scum.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:37 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:33 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:13 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:40 pm With the way this game is going honestly, I feel like we'll get a mafia flip at EOD. Got some nice confidence this game.

Honestly don't think so. But we'll see.

What has you so anxious?

Easy D1 is almost never a wolf, especially in a stacked table. History repeats and all that.

Don't be silly. There is no systematic reason for a consensus D1 exe to be a townie much more often than it is a wolf. This is especially true in a 9v2 setup because they have only 1 partner to rescue them from the fire and 9 townies to bury them. I have coasted to D1 wolf exes countless times.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:34 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:34 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:19 am dang mac's pg 18 is towny

ugh this game is so hard

^ and before you call this performative i'm 100% sure you agree with me ^

This game has felt easy for me so far.

that's when u know ur in trouble

Why?

I have had plenty of town games where the game felt easy, everyone converged on a consensus, and we flipped five mafia in a row.

Coincidentally those happened to be games where there were a lot of strong players. Enough of them rolled town and we just descended on the wolves. The ones that rolled scum were forced to bus. This game seems to suit that archetype, and I have had no discouraging green flips to show me otherwise. If you have a green role card, perhaps you believe the game is in trouble, but until I see that card, I have no reason to believe this.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:19 am dang mac's pg 18 is towny

ugh this game is so hard

^ and before you call this performative i'm 100% sure you agree with me ^

This game has felt easy for me so far.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:13 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:40 pm With the way this game is going honestly, I feel like we'll get a mafia flip at EOD. Got some nice confidence this game.

Honestly don't think so. But we'll see.

What has you so anxious?

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:09 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:32 am Okay but seriously.

Townreads:
Alexa
Esooa
Ender
Nanook
Illario (Sheeping Alexa)


That's all I have currently.

i'd say brad is town for this reads list unless exactly his partner is in there because there's some lhfs in there and i feel like he would just put the hhf (if that's not a term it is now) in his towncore

This post is slightly townie.

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:01 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:44 am Mac is definitely wolf but it's probably GTO to give him a day pass. He knows this and is gloating.

in a world mac is scum, alison probably just busses

the alison/ilario engagement still looks V/V to me.

You think if I rolled scum with Mac in a 9v2 setup I'd bus him instead of powerwolfing?

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:00 am your engagement with me is super super towny and i'm unot treating your tr on me as tmi cause you are actually REALLY good at reading me

tony just seems like an archetype townie. he's not really controlling the narrative which scum SHOULD do, and he's outed thoughts here and there that look villagery.

1) Scum are coasting to a free misexe on a villager that is being consensus scumread.

2) Scum are compelled to actively seek to control the narrative D1.

Choose one. When I am wolf and the whole town is dogpiling a villager I don't feel any need to control anything. I just sit back, eat chips and watch the village burn.