The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:18 am Wow that would be my first banner ^^

Thanks LC and Marmot!!!

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:36 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:36 am @Esooa I am sorry I was wrong about you. Would you like a story of forgiveness?

that's okay @Grogu , I was wrong on you too regardless

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:44 pm @Grogu I wouldn’t say you were “suspicious” necessarily. It was just harder to find strong reasons to say “Grogu is town”, so by process of elimination you ended up a suspect.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:36 am oh also, was a real pleasure having all the newcomers in this game and i really hope all of you will join us again for games!

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:14 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:11 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:14 pm God I am under such a spell from jagged...
I forgot the word you cook kids use. I feel like I’m a pretty girl following this awesome, cool good looking guy into the woods to see his adopted puppies he saved from a fire cuz he’s a badass hero. I’m totally falling in love right before I’m being choked and my life is slowly leaving me. His last words were: everything is going to be alright my love, just close your eyes now. My name is Ted btw...

***(No characters were harmed in this short story, no players were insulted or called Ted bundy, this is a short fantasy crime story about love)

Grogu, just keep posting

Hello my petit AU chocolat
Do you wish a short story about you?

Follow your heart

Gather up children, I got to tell y’all a story. This goes a long long time ago, your grandpa was a lot younger and handsome. I was always a free soul back then, I liked the ladies a bit too much. I always wanted to settle and find true love, but just could never find the girl of my dreams.

Times were tough on dating since we were still living the COVID-19 Pandemic at the time. There was a vaccine, yet most people did not had access to it. We all had to wear mask and follow lots of rules. Well one night I could not sleep well, I had this dream of the beach and I was with an amazing girl, it was so realistic, yet when I woke up all I could recall was her lips and smile. I tried going back to sleep to finish the dream or get more details, I felt it was unfinished as if I could somehow get the contact info for this imaginary woman who made me feel so happy and complete. Nothing worked, I instead spent hours tumbling in bed until the sun came up.

On this cold morning in late January 2021 I was tired and hungry. I decided to get up and go have breakfast. I wanted to experience something new, I did not want to go to my usual spot Denny’s which was a national chain back then and that is when the idea hit me. I had been dreaming about the beach and there’s a beach walk nearby that had lots of cool and chic food places with outdoor seating just meters away from the beach.

I walked by a lot of them just to see which caught my eye. Most places were very busy, lots of people sitting and then there was this smaller place called Petit escargot de mer au Chocolat. (Later I found out it means small chocolate sea snail of the sea) It was a small bakery and there was not one soul there, I said well here I am.
It might be awful, but no wait. I sat down and the lady quickly came to great me and take my order. This middle age lady was so kind and had such kind blue eyes and a very sincere smile, she treated me with such kindness and appreciation that I was taken aback. I’ll start with a fresh squeeze OJ if you have any please.
Of course! She reply hastily. I’ll make it myself she shouted with a slight French accent which always makes me smile for some reason. I glanced at the menu to break eye contact and instantly saw it, I quickly added that I’ll take a ham and cheese croissant before she disappeared to make my juice. I was watching the waves come and go while I wondered if the water was way too cold in January. I removed my mask so I could breathe in the fresh air of the sea and that’s why I was interrupted by a young waitress; Hi, here’s your croissant. Would you like anything else?
I sat there for a few seconds and just said no thanks with a smile. Truth is that hearing Croissant with a French accent just makes me smile every time.
The girl had light brown eyes and had a resemblance to the older lady. Since they had to wear mask I could not see her whole face so wasn’t sure but they looked related I thought.
I had my breakfast and I signaled for the check.

The young waitress came out again, I glanced at her name in her name tags while she was asking why I wasn’t having dessert.
Well Michelle I said: I kinda want to lose some weight to be in beach shape. To which she replied: you look great! You must have our specialty, is a croissant shaped like a sea snail filled with chocolate. That’s the name of our place she said in a full French accent “Petit escargot de mer AU chocolat”
I just giggled, it was too cute and I quickly apologized. Sorry Michelle the French accent is so cool. I tell you what, if you help me eat it then I’ll order it that way I don’t fully cheat on my diet.
She smiled I believe under the mask by her expression and said deal!

She came right out with two small plates and a chocolate croissant in one of the plates. I asked her she had to sit down to which she looked inside and said : OMG my mom might freak out but ok quick.
She sat down as I cut it in half and she removed her mask.

I JUST FREAKING FROZE I could not move a muscle as I stared at her lips and her smile. It was the strongest deja vu I ever had in my 30 years. Michelle asked if I was ok?
I just blurted out: OMG you are the girl of my dreams Mich... and just stopped because I knew that sounded so creepy. I’m sorry I said. She was blushing and had turned tomato red.
We both started to eat and said nothing more until the end.
I tried making small talk by saying the obvious; soooo that’s your mom? God I felt so lame asking such question.
Yeah she replied. Then silence just became awkward for a minute.

As she was getting up I thought about the dream and had a sudden burst of courage. HEY Michelle would you like to go on a date with me? Somewhere where your mom is not watching us like she is now and I laughed. She looked inside and her mom was just dumbfounded looking at us trying to figure out what just happened.
I would love to she said as she walked away. Moments later she came with the check and added her cell phone number in the bill.
The croissant was on me she said with a wink.
I looked at the bill and it said:
310-474-2272
The girl of your dreams

It was at that moment that I found love and I did not know it yet.
That weekend and every week after that we were the happiest couple and our love still strong till this day. I save you all the details kids but we loved the beach and frequent it a lot, we had our first kiss there while watching the romantic almost red sunset one evening. We felt at home and at last that was were we met, even had our wedding and it all started as a dream.
We had the best days and some late nights that blurred into early mornings led us down by the same beach. We found That falling in love during unprecedented times was a gift. It is the chance to bottle freedom of your soul, to open that gift when we needed most, years later.
We were survivors of a Pandemic, nothing could prevent our Love story.


Fin

Ps. Hope you enjoy Michelle and others.
Disclaimer**
This is a short original story from I dream I had them I added details I obtained this game and used michelle name just for role playing. I hope everyone understands this, all characters are fictional and created by King Grogu (tm) any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events, is purely coincidental.

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:15 am New era I am 1-0 so far nice. Mafia can be fun again

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:33 pm Also, holy foccacia do y'all post a lot. This game smashed the previous record for posts of a game this size.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:26 pm this game was stressful at points and i definitely was not spot-on with all of my foses :P but this game was still a lot of fun, and i'm happy to have played with y'all! i'd like to join more syndicate games in the future for sure

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:25 pm It was great to play with all of the newcomers. I don't get to play that much these days, so this was a fresh experience. And I got to look like a dope repeatedly!

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:09 pm @Alison
@DaughterOfOmega
@DkKoba
@EllieDelight
@Esooa
@Grogu
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Long Con
@MacDougall
@Made
@Michelle
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@nutella
@staypositivefriend
@tutuu

The game has ended.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:01 am @nutella

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:14 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:11 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:14 pm God I am under such a spell from jagged...
I forgot the word you cook kids use. I feel like I’m a pretty girl following this awesome, cool good looking guy into the woods to see his adopted puppies he saved from a fire cuz he’s a badass hero. I’m totally falling in love right before I’m being choked and my life is slowly leaving me. His last words were: everything is going to be alright my love, just close your eyes now. My name is Ted btw...

***(No characters were harmed in this short story, no players were insulted or called Ted bundy, this is a short fantasy crime story about love)

Grogu, just keep posting :nicenod:

Hello my petit AU chocolat
Do you wish a short story about you?

Follow your heart :)

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:54 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:02 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:51 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:50 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:43 pm if anybody has any strong reasons for why alison should be considered town, i would very much like to hear them

I think they are town. I think scum is pushing these grogu, Ali and omega crap to win.

hello green friend, could you please explain to me why you think that alison is town? any particular reasons why?

Just feels she is. I don’t see anything bad in her posts and I think she’s been set up to POE like I have and Ellie, Lc were.

One thing bothered me though, call me crazy or maybe I’m just bad. Essoa voting me and saying me and Ali are partners and I must be protecting her is wild. Looks to me that if essoa is scum he either wants to keep 2 town wagons going with me and Ali.
Or Ali is their partner and he wants to kill me and makes me look bad by using TMI. Since he would know Ali is scum and I defended her so he wants to kill me first for it and keep her alive. Kinda odd since Ali had 3 votes and I had 0...

Do you follow? Idk if this is the right way to think but remember that if I die today. It didn’t sit right with me

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:09 pm something that i found interesting is that when tutuu did her "trustfall" earlier, she noted that she had the hardest time coming up with a reason to both townread ~and~ scumread jagged

i found myself in a similar position when i outed a trustfall/distrustfall yesterday

if jagged has mostly just skated by on "good vibes/energy" and there are no concrete reasons to label him town, then that concerns me. it could be indicative of a jagged!scum world. i feel that the possibility needs to be explored thoroughly today

these posts are brain food, just wanted to have them closer

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:14 pm God I am under such a spell from jagged...
I forgot the word you cook kids use. I feel like I’m a pretty girl following this awesome, cool good looking guy into the woods to see his adopted puppies he saved from a fire cuz he’s a badass hero. I’m totally falling in love right before I’m being choked and my life is slowly leaving me. His last words were: everything is going to be alright my love, just close your eyes now. My name is Ted btw...

***(No characters were harmed in this short story, no players were insulted or called Ted bundy, this is a short fantasy crime story about love)

Grogu, just keep posting

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:05 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:01 am If DK/Omega works, then DK/Grogu can work too. It's a less severe version of the same phenomenon.

If so, [Omega, Grogu, DK] is a functional team. It's just one so I'm not throwing a party, but it's one.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:19 am Alright @Grogu, duly noted. Would you say that your read on Omega has been mostly town all game or no?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:44 pm grogu switching to shading Alison after town reading her at a point he should be town reading her more is basically outing and a strong affirmation Alison is correct imo. In short I'm currently sheeping Alison

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:31 pm Do Grogu and DaughterOfOmega fit together as mafia teammates?

From Grogu about Omega

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Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:24 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:32 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:31 pm so in other news i was inspired to figure out who daughterofomega is and uh

interesting

Spill

I used to go by AoBenjamin in 2015-2017 on a place called 2+2.
In 2016-2018 was where most people know me from, where my name was changed to BenjiAO.
In early 2019, I was slowly transitioning my gender, and now I go by Rach or Rachel most commonly.

DaughterOfOmega is a reference to my original online tag, which was SonsOfOmega, in which I shared with my brother. It means a lot to me, and as I no longer am male, I don't maintain the Sons part anymore.

If people were wondering who I am, it's not like I was hiding it, so I find Nutella's post somewhat awkward. If you are too bring up who I am, why would you not say it? Just is annoying to bring it up in that manner, as if it's bad to be known.

Interesting story. I have seen you before, glad to hear you are doing good and have completed your transition. I hope you are happy!

This post implies Grogu doesn't know Omega elsewhere (e.g. mafia chat). So take that wifom or leave it. Earlier in the game I suggested this was cause to separate the two, because it would feel gross if Grogu used kind words like this for any kind of Mafia in-game purpose. But at this point I can't rely on that judgment, it's just wifom.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:38 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:32 pm I think Grogu is the mafia who will be found first. They are kind of openwolfing to an extent that I enjoy, and I won't push them personally.

Why? I promise Grogu is ToWn!

“ Grogu Town I am”

The Omega post in this exchange is the more interesting one, so I'll talk about that on her end of the analysis. Grogu's post exists.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:49 pm Is doom Omega?
Positive did you make a list of yours reads on me?
I see you did one for omega

Another semi-wifom thing like the first post. Whatever.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:43 am I like omega. Not sure why

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:32 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:26 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:25 pm I am ToWn. I believe Omega is confirm ToWn also, if you believe Grogu and her are teamed is because we are.
Does michelle post a lot as scum? That’s a lot of posts today.

What makes you so confident about Omega?

I've seen Michelle post a lot more as town than as mafia, though I suspect she is capable of both.

Ok. What if I am wrong? I will be sad. I don’t know what to do
I like her, posts feel not planned and nice. That is all I will say.

Grogu was very positive in his read on Omega. The reason was vague. It's brazen for teammates, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:19 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:21 pm my hope is that Alison or Grogu flip mafia, so that I can post my interactions with them and be town lol

This is very bad post. Not only is clear I am town, but Alison is clearly town also. This is concerning post, didn’t you post you used to be a monster at this game? You are as clueless as I am.
Monster inc. type of monster you are

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:22 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:30 pm if either doom or grogu is mafia the other one is extremely likely to be mafia imo

I am town so that leaves omega. I could see her being scum given that she keeps pushing consensus people such as myself. I don’t think she has a reason to even call me scum.

Grogu's Day 3 read is almost the opposite, so that was abrupt.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:47 pm This is the most I ever posted on a game by far I believe. I must have like 200 posts. That’s ridiculous.
Also I have been forthcoming the whole game. I have struggled to see “scum”.
I have felt that neither do most players here as shown by who we baked so far.
I think the leaders are leading us to hell.

That being said:
I don’t see why tutuu gets shot by scum...
I believe she’s likely scum, but I don’t know how to prove that or look at posts and say: there I found the clues.
People I don’t trust either:
koba, jagged, esso and the aforementioned tuttuu but this later one I’m not sure about.
Trust me or not, we are all wrong and I highly believe Alison is another miss. They are like me and omega just easy low hanging fruits. If any of us is scum is likely omega since someone said he was a great player and I have yet to see that so he’s likely fooling us.

Now Omega is town again. This one's difficult to follow.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:00 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:14 pm Okay, I tried my best to play this game and not deal with mental issues. This has not happened, though I did my best to avoid that. I will ask that you kill me today, I do not wish to be rude and obviously somehow I have been, and it's my fault. Bye

Omega nooo come back. Is not that serious, just ignore tuttu. I’m sure they don’t mean to offend just come across as rude is all.

More "do they have mafia chat" wifom if you care.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:04 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:26 pm I will be doing four deep ISO dives into players I think seriously need to be reviewed. I will be doing nothing else during this game day.

Let me state this first, I am not doing any of these deep dives to get someone baked. I want to be voted and killed; I don’t want to socially interact in the game currently. These are for people to look at for what I think after I flip town. I don’t like being told that I am not a positive in game, and I want to make sure I at least help town win the best I can. Do not ask me questions or ping me please. I will be posting 4 deep dives hopefully.

@DaughterOfOmega dont waste your valuable time in me please. Trust me I am town.
Focus on more unconventional targets.
Look at made, essoa, jagged, tuttu etc

Not sure what the read is here, but the implication seems to be trust?

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Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:46 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:40 pm Grogu breakdown. 150 posts as of making this.
Town reads d0 (Longcon, SPF)
Votes/Mafia reads d0(Long Con, Michelle, Nanook, Macdougal
D1 Town(No reads posted)
D1 Votes/Mafia(No reads posted, voted Michelle)
D2 Town (Esooa, SPf, Tutuu, Made, DOOM)
D2 Votes/Mafia (Michelle, Ellie)

Personal thought is Grogu is much less likely to be mafia, when compared to Koba/Alison. I don't know if I follow the logic Grogu has a lot, but if he is mafia he is town siding on his town reads. He goes to defend town at points where I don't see a mafia doing so.

I scum read Mac and nanook? Interesting didn’t know that or forgot.
Good stuff overall my friend

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:49 pm I Think is essoa. Omega let’s vote essoa together, POE gang

More overt public appeals. Maybe a decent sign they're not teamed. Hard to say that with conviction.

From Omega about Grogu

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:32 pm I think Grogu is the mafia who will be found first. They are kind of openwolfing to an extent that I enjoy, and I won't push them personally.

This is probably the most interesting post in the review. If they're teammates, then Omega joked about Grogu "openwolfing" while clearly doing it herself. I don't know anything about whether that's her style, but at this stage I'm inclined to at least say it could be.

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:39 pm Macdougal
Michelle
Grogu
Jay
Nutella

Is my list of current suspects, I'm not sure where I'd vote at the moment, I want to see more from them all

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:40 am I'm currently at Tutuu/Grogu/Mac/+1

Grogu got some mentions in early mafia lists or team theories. It's fine but not incompatible.

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:34 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:33 pm I don't like killing Ellie over scum reads I have meh

if you could vig kill someone immediately who would you kill

Every time someone asked me this, I used to say "myself" for the memes

but I am no longer a depressed kid so no more memes

I'd choose LC, I think I can give Grogu a bit more time though he'd be second

This is merciful to Grogu. Again, I don't mind at face value, but there's no reason that can't be a teammate action.

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:15 am I find that my reads are so contrarian that posting them would just get me scum read, but I don't play mafia like a scared person.

SPF
Alison
Koba
Esooa
Michelle
tutuu
Nanook
Grogu
Jay
Made
Nutella
Ellie

Kinder to Grogu on Day 2, at least a bit. Now he's in the nefarious middle area.

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:33 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:31 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:29 pm I don't feel confident in my reads, although I am hesitant to vote off Michelle because the others I see as sus are voting Michelle

tricky

Who are your suspects?

Ellie Nutella Grogu Nanook could all be mafia fmpov

Makes voting you not so good

Omega defended Michelle by way of her wagon, which included Grogu. Not super meaningful to me.

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am I think the game is like turbo easy

Alison
Koba
Grogu
Jay
nanook

do we have 5 kills? if so gg

Grogu is featured in the Day 3 "turbo easy" solve. Okay.

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:21 pm my hope is that Alison or Grogu flip mafia, so that I can post my interactions with them and be town lol

I'd like to see what makes you feel this way, Omega (like you don't fit with Grogu).

Conclusion

There's not a lot happening here. Most of the "good stuff" is pure wifom, so I am not inclined to play that game right now. Grogu's read on Omega is all over the place. Omega hasn't taken a terribly aggressive approach with Grogu as a suspect. I cannot comfortably separate them.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:25 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:24 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:14 pm alison/doom/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nanook/nutella/tutuu

i feel comfortable removing nanook and DOOM from that pool right now, pending re-evaluation on LYLO. it feels weird to remove DOOM from that pool, but that's where my brain is taking me

so that leaves alison/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nutella/tutuu

now we're getting warmer, but i hesitate to comfortably remove any more names from that pool. grogu's appeals to me feel so heartfelt that i'm almost tempted to, but i feel that would be a mistake if i think about the game from a holistic perspective. one of koba or esooa would probably be the first names i would look at to further remove from this pool

Hi, I’m ok being in the scum pool. No offense positive
I would only advise you do NOT take essoa out of it. I want to keep an eye on her and I prefer we are together in this scum pool where she belongs. I believe she will be the sacrifice we make today and we will bake her and eat her flesh tonight. She can be our Jesus bread thingy

lmfao i unironically love playing with you grogu, even if youre mafia

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:14 pm alison/doom/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nanook/nutella/tutuu

i feel comfortable removing nanook and DOOM from that pool right now, pending re-evaluation on LYLO. it feels weird to remove DOOM from that pool, but that's where my brain is taking me

so that leaves alison/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nutella/tutuu

now we're getting warmer, but i hesitate to comfortably remove any more names from that pool. grogu's appeals to me feel so heartfelt that i'm almost tempted to, but i feel that would be a mistake if i think about the game from a holistic perspective. one of koba or esooa would probably be the first names i would look at to further remove from this pool

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:09 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:56 pm Actually, quick question for Grogu. @Grogu Sorry if you've explained this before, but who do you think is scum with Esooa in your solve?

No idea who is scum with her. I have my scum reads:
Essoa, jagged**, koba, tutuu.
But who knows

Esooa has been constantly suspecting Koba and tutuu all game, even when all three of them were comfortable townreads. Why would she do that to a scumbuddy?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:01 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:58 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:23 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:20 pm I love how Alison complaints about being consensus POE but then has me in all the worlds. Has no real read on me yet I’m scum with every possible team. Yikes

I don't have you in all the worlds. I have you as a possibility, that's all. It could be nutella/DOOM/JJJ, for instance. I don't think you really understood my solve post because you've made comments about it (like asking why I think Esooa is a wolf) that don't match up to what I said at all.

You had her as possible deep wolf. Then gave her an easy out.
Why put her in there only to then explain only why she’s town and not scum? Doesn’t match up

I believe nutella/tutuu contains one or more wolves. I am trying to convince people that nutella/tutuu contains one or more wolves. To do that, I must first convince them that a deepwolf exist. Then, I must convince them why nutella/tutuu are the most likely deepwolves out of the possible deepwolves. To do that I have to examine the likelihood of the other deepwolves being true, including Esooa.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:57 pm I think my view of Esooa right now is somewhat analogous to those who suspect nutella instead. Esooa is the consensus game-long town read that I struggle to trust right now.

I haven't dug deep into various team possibilities for her yet though.

I asked Grogu the question about Esooa's teammates precisely because one of the things I found when doing associatives was that Esooa doesn't fit with many teams, and most of the teams she fits in involve you lol. (And Grogu, which is why the question is fairly important for them to answer.)

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:58 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:55 pm Copy:
Esooa is pushing Grogu and me moderately hard. Dkkoba is pushing anyone that pushes them fiercely. nutella is pushing me fiercely, and tutuu is pushing DOOM fiercely and me moderately. The two possible patterns that match what I'd expect to see from a deepwolf needing to exert control over the game are nutella and tutuu. Esooa doesn't really fit for a couple of reasons: she doesn't seem that invested in controlling the narrative today, there's been enough rage and controversy over her that I think her teammates would proabbly have shut down if she was scum, and her pushes are chill and don't have the brute force vibe that the other three do.

This is troubling me. If Ali is town, why is essoa pushing me and her not exactly what she said scum would do???
Essoa is pushing town/town. I feel like she’s giving essoa a free pass and being super soft. It is just me?

It's a relative comparison. The consensus POE in this game has been pretty rotten; everyone's pushed town. You've pushed Michelle yourself. The point is not to say "oh, so and so has scumread a townie, so they must be scum" - the point is to look at the quantity of bad scumreads, weigh whether or not those scumreads were there by accident or bad reads or something more, and see how hard the scumreads were pushed. I don't know you're town for sure, so in my mind Esooa has pushed one unresolved slot and one town slot moderately hard. That is probably on par for the rest of the game, so she doesn't stand out as being suspicious from that context alone. I go into more detail why nutella's pushes stand out to me - it's because of the sheer quantity and variety of them.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:56 pm Actually, quick question for Grogu. @Grogu Sorry if you've explained this before, but who do you think is scum with Esooa in your solve?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:23 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:20 pm I love how Alison complaints about being consensus POE but then has me in all the worlds. Has no real read on me yet I’m scum with every possible team. Yikes

I don't have you in all the worlds. I have you as a possibility, that's all. It could be nutella/DOOM/JJJ, for instance. I don't think you really understood my solve post because you've made comments about it (like asking why I think Esooa is a wolf) that don't match up to what I said at all.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:20 pm By the way I thought about including a section where I analyze whether or not outsiders (Dkkoba, Grogu, DOOM) or Syndicate regulars (nutella, nanook, tutuu) are more likely to try to get me murdered as scum and the argument for outsiders was that they wouldn't know how difficult I am to get exed and the argument for regulars was that they wanted bragging rights for misexing me D3 but I scrapped the whole thing because I felt it was too subjective and slightly masturbatory anyway since I don't think I can objectively evaluate this kind of thing.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:17 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:16 pm @Alison vote essoa

no. see my post

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:33 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:30 pm What is bypassed?

doom is permabanend on both mafiascum and mafiauniverse - to bypass means to avoid your ban and create an account to play on the site

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:09 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:08 pm So D has cop 1 shot
Jailkeep
Vanilla townie
Wolf 1 shot vig

We are missing a vig. Is Nutella the vig or the target n1?
What are the odds jailkeeper saved or stopped a kill both nights? That’s legendary stuff if so

I've been in mafia teams that have had this D matrix setup before. Not exactly the same but similar.

We saved the mafia vig for the claimed PR always